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What's up, everybody? Welcome to flavor. Quick reminder. The Knicks are the champions of the world. France just got knocked the fuck out of the cup. Mark just got knocked out literally minutes ago. Just got knocked out. Okay.
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It was a good game.
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Alex is fresh off of doing Timoasca is what Neil Brennan called it. He got a Groupon for Ayahuasca and went to some ladies Airbnb in New Jersey and did it. And he is. He has lived to see another day. So we will get back to that in a second. But first of all, fr. Because part of the Ayahuasca journey is about maybe connecting to lost and past lives and all these kind of things. You have just experienced a great loss, right? As France has just been rightfully knocked the up out of the world.
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You don't say like that. They lost. It was a tough game and they lost to a good team.
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I didn't see much of it.
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Yeah, it's for the best.
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I didn't see much of it.
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Not their best showing. You could say that.
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You guys watched the whole game.
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You did.
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And what do you think? Do you think it. What do you think the difference was?
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They didn't show up.
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They didn't show up.
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They just had a bad game over.
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But Argentina doesn't show up. And they have help from.
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Yeah, because they have Infantino. They have maybe Israel.
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Best flicker on Argentina.
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A lot of people behind Argentina.
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Is it Deviant and Yahoo or Infantino?
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It's difficult to say. Twitter. If you go by Twitter, it's all the above. They have them. They have Hitler.
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I think Hitler was helpful.
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Yeah. He was in Argentina for a while.
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So he's still over there.
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Yeah, he was helping them out.
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Do you think Goebbels invented the HGH
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that they put Messi on the Mangalay science experiment? That's what it was. Not type.
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Type. Type.
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Yeah, that's what it was. But no, the boys just didn't show up. It wasn't great. It wasn't great. Alisa wasn't there. Lamin was just cutting up D on the outside.
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It just was not Lamin, dude.
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Yeah. Kind of a beast legend.
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I mean, he was making girls catch charges.
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Whoa. What?
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When he was like, 16 or 17, wasn't he cracking shorties that were, like, 27 years old? He was under 18, smashing, like, celebrity chicks in as.
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As he should.
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They were. He was making them catch chargers.
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Oh, I thought he. Oh, you got it. I thought he was putting that on.
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Stay with me, my boy. Put that on, my man. Stay with me. I said he was making them like his ability to play the game of soccer. Football. Football, yes. Made women not care about statutory loss.
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Yeah, it seems that way, yeah.
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When I was out there, they said they. He had the herp.
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He had the Jesus, the herb, because
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he was so much.
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Why? Why. Why would you put that on him, bro?
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His people said that.
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Can I just.
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This is what Spaniards always do, and
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they don't even look at it.
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Can we just say one thing, please? That's a legendary hater.
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Oh, yeah, that right there is a legendary. Even in victory. Even in victory.
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Hypothetical herpes on an 18 year old. He's not stealing pussy from you.
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Yo. But they were saying it like they
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were proud of yo son. Just tell me how your girl watches the game. Just tell me how your girl watches.
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She doesn't rule with him A little bit too much.
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A little bit too much. He's bumpy. We need to see her jersey. Her jersey might have the name on it. That's like, God damn.
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Oh, can she wear a Yamal jersey?
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Yeah, she's a pedophile.
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Yo, but Al, do you want to take that back? That Ali Gazione?
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I don't think he does. I'm just saying what I heard when I was in Barcelona.
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And why would somebody within the home country say such a horrific rumor about a young man like that?
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He's taking it down like that. Yeah, maybe he's taking down the French, that's why. He probably got it from them.
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You think so?
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I don't think French people get STDs.
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Yeah, I don't know about that.
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I think it started there, maybe fucking the most.
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Can I ask you an honest question? Do Europeans get aids?
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That's a good point. Because people accuse Europeans being gay all the time, and then I don't know if the epidemic hit them that like
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that, you know, If I'm being honest, I don't think they was getting after it. What they faking it after. I think they were just gay but acted like straights. So they would have maybe casual sex, but not too crazy.
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Whereas in America, everyone was acting straight.
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They free.
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They were gay.
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They were free. No, no, no. They were. They was. They were. How do I say it? They were. They were. Some of them earned it. Nobody earned it, but you know what I mean?
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You know, Let me see. Let me see the statistics, my boy.
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All right, so Emma's best friend is gay. He told me. He told me they got a new. They got a thing called doxy. Where you take that after you have Sex. And it cleans everything out of your system, no matter what STD you get. Except aids. And then they got a thing called Prep that. That you take all the time, and that stops you from getting AIDS. So front door, back door, STDs. They figured out that's kind of smart.
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Wait, wait, the prep. They take it even if they don't have aids. I thought they take that once they got the aids.
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No, no, you take it to stop you from ever getting it. It's a goalie.
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Get the.
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Yeah, bro. They figured it out.
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It's like a statin.
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Yes.
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The one thing that does make me happy about Lamin Mall Winning is seeing his little brother.
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Brother, right.
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How elated are they?
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I. I actually was thinking that. I don't know.
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Is that a crazy thing to say? Like, is it same? Is it same parents or different.
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I would imagine different parents. I mean, different dad.
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Yeah.
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I don't know the exact science. I'm gonna look into this real quick.
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I think it's different that. I think that's the dad holding him. I don't think.
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Okay.
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That means that.
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I mean, he's so cute as hell,
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but they are so cute together. Like.
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Oh, they're like homies.
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Homies. Yeah. Yeah. He's. He's at everything, and so far, Damn. That's all he wants.
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It's really crazy that you would put out that Ali Gazione on him like that with no evidence to back it up.
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Son. Europe. That's not a bad thing.
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Herpes.
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Hold on.
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They're like.
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Hold on, hold on.
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What you mean, like culture? Like, it's like. Come on.
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So they're not really worried about herpes of those types of STDs.
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Yeah, it's like siesta herpes. Same.
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Yeah. I mean, I think if the dig looks like the semolina bread, then it's a problem. That's my personal opinion. If you go to an Italian restaurant and they just immediately bring you some olive oil and Lamina Mall's dick, I don't know.
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That's the show.
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Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.
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This is his half brother.
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For the record. It's his half brother.
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They have the same mother. They have the same mother.
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Joe, how. Why'd you make it spotted, bro?
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It would be spotted, right?
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No, no, no, no. We got to take that off of him. I mean, wipe that clear of him. Wipe that.
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19. And he's a devout Muslim.
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Word.
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Yeah. 100.
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I don't know. He's one of, like, the. The New age ones.
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No, I don't think.
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He doesn't choose.
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He doesn't drink water during Ramadan. He's a real one, I'm pretty sure. Unless you know something. I don't know.
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I know he's not married. I know he's dicking now bitches over there.
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How do you know that, though?
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Oh, I know. Like, it's. It's. Everybody knows.
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Is that true?
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Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah.
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Mark doesn't seem like he wants to confirm it.
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I. I have no information other than I've seen him.
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Any conspiracy exists on the Internet besides that. Let me and you all get some. Yeah, that's the one. That's a little bit too far.
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Well, I did see a video maybe of him with a girl, and I was like, wait a second. Maybe there's something going on. Oh, yeah, maybe this is AI. We've been AI before in this.
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I don't think we were AI, man.
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See, this is him with his. His sweet, devout Muslim girlfriend, and they're just hanging out, having a great time, enjoying themselves.
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That's the boy.
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Hello. That was a little hello on the cheek. They do that out there.
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But, yeah, this just seems like a good, regular old relationship, you know?
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Is there. Is there a version where his impact on this team makes Spain change their stance on immigration? Maybe?
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Because. Wait, what do you mean? They're the most inviting.
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Well, I think. But I think people in Spain are frustrated by it. The same thing you're hearing all over your.
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They might need to change city names a little bit.
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Like Granada. You can't do it.
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Wait, what is that?
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Granada.
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But what's it named after?
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I don't know. I imagine it's a Muslim.
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Yeah. I'm like, what are you waiting for?
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All the cities in southern Spain are super Muslim.
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The one that I'm talking about, that's crazy is Matamoros.
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Kill the Moors, kill the Muslims. Wow.
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It's just the name of a town.
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Is that really a place?
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I'm almost positive.
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I got to double check. We got to check the immigration population there to see if.
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But you know, they're like, they made some new law where all the illegals there. There's a path for citizenship.
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Yeah. I think it was much the chagrin of the Spanish.
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I mean, the government's doing it.
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I know, I know. I think it's one of those things where it's like there is a left wing, progressive government, but there are also people there who maybe are frustrated by it. Same thing that's existing around the world. It's like economic insecurity. People going, wait, why are we giving all this money to these people who are coming here when the people here are suffering?
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Yeah.
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So the people might be against it, but the fact that they're even doing that, no other country right now is doing that. Which I kick everybody out.
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How many. How many you got to let in to get a Lamina mall? You know what I mean? Like, I don't think we do the numbers on that enough, you know, like, how many we got to let in?
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Is it.
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Is it like 10,000, 100,000?
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Yeah, yeah.
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And also the Spanish had great players from Spain, so they don't really need to let anybody in. Yeah.
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But it helps, you know, it helps.
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It helps all the best from all over the world. You're going to have a team like that that just bust they ass.
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Yeah. But they also got a team from all the other places in the world.
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Those players are born in France. Those are Frenchmen.
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That's why they suck.
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Those are die hard Frenchmen, dude.
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That's why they suck.
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All of them are born in France.
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Everybody on the French team was born in France.
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I think there's two or three guys that weren't.
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Was it. You telling me the Morocco team, a lot of them were born in France?
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Yeah, almost all of them. I think Morocco, Phil, the first team where none of them were born in the country.
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That's crazy. That's like.
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There are 11 players were all born outside of Morocco.
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How many? I don't think you got to be born, but I think if is. You've heard my take on this. You have to be fed. Whoever feeds you, that's. That's where you're from. For how long? I would say after titty milk. I would say once you get off the titty, that's it. Whatever country you're in, that's where you're from. That's what you can represent in a physical activity.
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But I think you can go down, though. Like, if you don't make the main team, I think you can fall back.
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Nope.
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Come on. I think. I think.
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How far back can I go? Can I go back to Africa? If you like, If I trace my roots, If I can trace. If I could. 23 and meet myself back to wherever in Africa might be.
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More than 23.
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Wherever we evolve from in Africa. Right?
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Yeah.
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Can I go play for that team? Like, how far back can we go?
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Grandparents.
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Yeah, grandparents.
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So there's a limit?
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Yeah, there's a limit.
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Grandparents.
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But then you could fall back if you don't make the main one. Like, let's say you were born and raised in France, and then you can't make the French team. You're like, all right, fine, I'll go play for Algeria.
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But isn't that an example that, like, you failed your parents, like, your grandparents or your parents or grandparents moved to another country to give you a better life?
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Yeah.
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And you're like, I'm going back for a little.
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And that's the thing. They're not even going back. They're playing the tournament in America now.
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You got to live there. You got to experience no ac. You got to experience no fucking ice in the soda. Like, you have to live a little bit like you're from that country. Yeah.
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For, like, a month, maybe. Yeah.
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And I think the American players should have to do that, too.
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The players of Morocco, they don't live there.
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No, no. Really, they're elite players that are probably playing for most teams in Europe, right? Yeah. So, like, they're going to play at the team that they play for.
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Yeah, but I thought to play for you, the country, you either have to live there for five years or one. Your parents or grandparents have to be from there. I thought that was a rule.
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They have to have, like, some type of citizenship that they can get.
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Yeah, but you can't just get citizenship if you're nice.
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If you're nice, son. You saw Saudi Arabia made it okay to live with a woman you're not married to for Cristiano Ronaldo. They changed the rules.
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You have to be engaged. Yeah. Like, final. Give her a ring, whatever.
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He still calls her his girlfriend. That is adorable. Like, in interviews, he's like, yeah, my girlfriend. It's like, y' all got seven kids. What the fuck are we talking about? My girlfriend? He refuses to lock it down.
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Wow. Yeah.
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Isn't there, like, just get a prenup or something and lock it down? Why not?
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I don't even know if he's worried about that. You think?
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I don't think he gotta worry about anything.
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Cause he's Cristiano Ronaldo.
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He exists on another like. Or you know how, like, women are incredibly good at just getting, like, used to whatever their life is? Like, do you think going through her head is all right, my husband's Cristiano Ronaldo. Let me not fucking ruin this shit. This is awesome. Or do you think she's at the point where she's like, you gotta go play for a billion dollars in fucking Saudi Arabia. You want me to move to Saudi Arab. I think it's the latter important update for shows. Remember, the shows in Brea, California were moved. Again, I apologize about this. The movie schedule moved so I had to shift things with that as far as being on the West Coast. So instead of being last weekend, they're going to be this weekend. Okay, the 23rd to the 25th. Anybody who had tickets to those shows before, those are going to be good for this show. If you can't go for whatever reason, they'll absolutely give you a refund. And we have added two more shows on Thursday, the 23rd, so. So if there are tickets still available for those, you can go get those right now. Thank you guys so much. I appreciate it and I'm very sorry for any inconvenience. People traveling in for the shows, et cetera. I sincerely apologize. Reach out DM me if there's any kind of issue and I'll do my best to make sure I make it up for you wherever you live, when we come, do a show there. Also, Halifax, Nova Scotia. We are coming out there August 8th. Great Outdoors Fest, Garrison grounds. Some of you guys, the OGs call it Citadel Hill. We're gonna be out there. Amazing. Gagnon coming. Cam Patterson from snl. Kill Tony coming. Lucas Zelnick coming. Rory Gardiner coming. It's going to be a hell of a show. So grab tickets@theandrewshols.com for both of those shows. We're going to be adding some more shows in different cities in the, in the very near future. So stay tuned.
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What's up, people? Great news. I'm going to be coming to a bunch of cities at the end of the year to do stand up comedy. I would love for you guys to join me. I'm going to Plano, Texas, Chandler, Arizona, Pasadena, California, San Diego, Detroit and Salt Lake City. I would love for you all to come on out. I'll see you guys at the shows.
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And guys, let's get off the Internet. Let's have some fun. In real life, I have my tennis clinic, Tennis for the people. And this will be July 25th. If there's six tickets left, they're all advanced spots. But fuck it, even if you're not advanced, just get the ticket, show up, you'll, we'll find room for you to play on the other courts. But literally six tickets left before the cell sells out. Theallloveclub.com July 25 See you guys there. Peace.
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I don't think that. I think this is real.
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I can't believe y' all didn't know that was AI.
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I knew.
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We got AI.
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God. Dumb.
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In the honor of being a proud journalist and being committed to the truth, we played this Erling Holland video.
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Yeah.
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And it was AI.
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How you ain't know that?
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One of the things people pointed out was that, like, the patches are all a bit weird. And then people point out that this is the original one. This guy right here, apparently. I think. I don't even really know which is a way funnier video.
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Is this AI or real?
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That's clearly AI.
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I think this one might be the real one.
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Yo, can I just.
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This, I think, is the real one that they made.
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Can I just ask. Can I just ask a question? Yeah. This is a genuine question. This is not me being insulting or nothing. Is he. Is he a cousin?
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Makes me laugh like that. Oh, I think this Mongolian.
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Yeah. I mean, same to same.
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I think they used to use that term.
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Yeah.
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But is. Does he have. Is he syndromatic of anything or.
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I think so.
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He might have some cooking up.
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Okay.
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He might have some going.
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He got a mark void?
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I don't think he is, but he's
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nice with his chopsticks though, so maybe not.
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I don't think he is, but I think that he looks it.
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Oh, nah, they can use forks.
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You're trying to tell me you think this guy.
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I don't know. Come on, son. Come on out.
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He's got a hard working man.
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You gotta stop that.
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Yeah, but early Holland might have, like, won the World cup on his own. Did you see the celebration they had in Norway?
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No, they went crazy.
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They've been going absolutely wild. He's won hearts and minds. He came off the plane with this joint right here, representing proud American culture.
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What was it, a bald eagle?
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No, it was a raccoon. Drinking a beer. Got some tequila.
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Is this AI? Did we get AI'd again?
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No, no, this one is real. This one.
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Yo, you really did.
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I thought he bought A raccoon, man. I thought he was like, you gotta see these little animals. They're incredible. They'll sift through your garbage.
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I think this one is. He posted on Snapchat, like, he got a bunch of taxidermy things from, like, some guy's, like, bar or something, and it was like, dude, America's Fire and brought it home. But they've been having, like, massive.
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What's the real pick? Which one's the real one?
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What? No, this is real. To my understanding, he's the one that posted this, and he was like, follow me home and he posted on Snapchat. But, yeah, they've been.
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So you think Erling Haaland won the World cup in terms of, like, every World cup, there's a player that becomes a superstar. Yeah. That everybody falls in love with. Mbappe was what, two worlds or last one?
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Last 2018.
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That was when he scored the hat trick in the final.
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That was the last one. 2022 against Argentina, but they lost that game. But he got a hatrick. And then 2018, he's the young rookie
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that wins and he goes on a crazy run.
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He wins a World cup at, like, 19 or whatever.
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Got it. And then. Okay, so this year, we think it's Erling Holland.
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Yeah. And then even beyond that, just like, he's so beloved.
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The personality is really fun. Yeah. It's almost unfair.
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Skill set is there. You stack it up.
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What'd you say?
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And the skill set.
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And the skill set. It is almost unfair when like. Like, for example, like, Messi might not have the personality side of it, though. There are videos, you know, get Brian, this. This went killed.
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He got a little bit of that mongoloidism.
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Have you seen the compilations of Messi being awkward?
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No.
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No.
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Oh, it's funny. Use that a word. Use the one with the one where he's getting interviewed by the guy and the guy. This is. Everybody's like, yo, this is messy, has autism. But if you. To me, this is the most normal I've ever seen him, is in this video.
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Yeah.
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He has a bunch of these kinds of moments where he just does stuff and it's like just a little.
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A little off ski.
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A little off ski.
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I think he's been working on it too, though. Like, why now? It's like he's having normal reactions and he's, like, crying and trying to cheer with his teammates and stuff like that. Before, he used to just, like, walk around just like, yeah, we just scored.
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Yay.
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You know? Yeah, yeah, a little bit of that.
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Oh, yeah. This one right here. Okay, go.
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So this interviewer is talking to him, and he's saying that it's his dream to have interviewed Leo Messi. And he begins to cry.
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No, but he stays in it. He stays in it. That's actually too edited. The real one. I watched the real one, and that sits in it. At first, Messi laughs and leans back, and the guy still is crying and saying how emotional is. And then he's like, oh, it's not a bit. He has to lock back into the interview. Oh.
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Maybe that's what makes him great, though. I forget if. If this is me making it up or if someone said this, but they were like, yeah, I feel awkward in life. And then when I'm on the field, I feel calm and, like, connected to people, and it's like, ghost awkward.
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No less of the gut.
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And it's like the way that he connects with human beings because he might be a little tsmo.
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It's like me with tennis.
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Yeah, you're, like, messy.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You just like messy.
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Now, I will say this. I'm getting a lot of. Oh, boy, here we go. And then, of course, people just come on. Posing for pictures is hard brought.
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Well, what is this one? Oh.
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Oh, wow.
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I'm just watching the guy drum and just shaking his head like, all right, nice. All right, cool. Schultz and the Hamptons, that one. But, yeah, I mean, someone just compiling all your most awkward moments. No one looks great.
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Oh, God.
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But Messi in particular.
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They're just a little rough. What? Are you okay? I'm getting a lot of videos on the air now that I've watched, like, a few soccer videos, so they're sending me, like, a lot of soccer stuff.
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Right.
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Are you getting the messy Ronaldinho compilations
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at all of them playing together? Yeah.
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And, like, their friendship and how much they love one another. Whatever. Oh, it's awesome.
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Yeah. It's just a joy.
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I live in Barcelona during Ronaldo's, like, heyday.
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Okay.
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Ronaldinho's heyday.
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Okay.
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And he was just such a beloved, like, creative character on the pitch. And, like, I don't know, it was really cool seeing, like, I don't know, again. They can make you think anything because you're just grabbing little moments from, like, years of playing.
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Yeah. I've been seeing, like, Ronaldo versus Messi, like, who's a better person? It'll be, like, Ronaldo, like, petting a kid's head, and they're like, he's the best. And it'll be Messi, like, ignoring a handshake. And they're like, he sucks.
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Yeah.
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And it's like, just whatever side you're on. And they just find clips. It's so funny.
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But I will say recency bias is definitely at play here. But with the amount of messy videos and the success of. What do they call them? Va Argentina. It looks as if. And I'm a complete expert in soccer, so take this with a grain of salt, but it looks as if the conversation on Messi or Ronaldo is definitely shifting in the direction of Messi, even from the other greats talking about it. Like, even other soccer players are seeing all these clips and going, yeah, it's messy.
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I think this was Ronaldo's chance to even it up.
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So. So you're saying Messi was ahead.
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Yeah.
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And then if Ronaldo had an absolutely exceptional World cup, they win it all.
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Messi. It's like. It's like, I don't even know what the NBA equivalent would be for Messi. It's like, you can.
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It's Jalen Brunson.
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If Jalen Brunson was 20 years the greatest player.
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Right.
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If Jalen Brunson goes on a run for the next 20, it's like the longevity of LeBron. You can score like Jordan. You have, like, handles like Kyrie.
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Yeah.
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And you do it for 20. Like.
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Yeah.
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That's the only thing that compares.
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Yeah.
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Like, I don't even know what would be close in basketball, but it's interesting.
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What's that? Good job.
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Thank you. I read that on Instagram.
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Comment. But it's similar to Jalen, I think, and I'm not just saying this, they
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actually do play kind of similarly.
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They're. They're undersized. Yeah. They, for whatever reason, get wherever they want to go in tight spaces. In very tight spaces. And they're not that fast. Like, I don't know if any of us would look at Messi and be like, he's got Mbappe speed, but he's quick. But he's. He'll. He's quick. He gets to his spots wherever he wants to get to. And I think people used to compare him to Steph, but Steph game is so different because there's all these, like, long shots.
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Yeah.
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Whereas, like, Messi's getting to the cup, if he wants to get to the cup, but there's nothing you can fucking do about it.
B
Yeah.
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So I think they both have similarly confusing games, because when you just see them, you go, there's no reason you should be so effective. And then you watch them play and you're like, you're the most effective person. Yeah, yeah.
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This is an all time great, messy, awkward moment. He's walking into, like the training camp or whatever. There's little kids, they're so excited. He goes, oh,
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I love it. I love it.
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Also, I saw this on Twitter. I actually thought this would be helpful for the American folks. This is World cup semis in NBA terms. And I was like, oh, okay. So England, loud fan base. Might finally be their year. Those are the Knicks. Ooh, Spain. Elite defense led by a young superstar. That's the Spurs. Argentina. Can the Goat carry them one more time? Golden State. And then France, Dominant roster top to bottom. Probably the best team on paper. Okc.
A
Very interesting. Yeah, very interesting.
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Any. Any counter examples here? Any counterpoints?
A
No, I think that. I think the England Knicks thing, I
C
just hate this Spurs Spain thing. And being a Spurs fan, but it's low key acc.
A
The only thing I would say is that the Spanish game, like the spurs are known for, like, boring fundamentals and Spain is known for the tiki Taki. Yeah. Like, to me, I think it's almost like a more progressive style of soccer.
B
Right.
A
And like, I wouldn't say flash, but like, there's an exuberance to the game. Spain, it's not like a boring, slow, plodding style, which is what?
B
It's kind of boring in my opinion, watching Spain.
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Why?
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Because it's like controlled possession. Because it's like so systematic, systematized. Like, they play as such a unit that, like, they're pretty patient, they build up, they score goals that are like, pretty technical but not like a wow factor, you know? So it's kind of just like, all right, and they scored. That's how it feels watching Spain, for
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me, I mean, it's effective.
B
They win, but it's just like. Whereas, like the old Spain, I think, was more exciting.
A
That's the Tikitaka.
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Yeah. And they're still kind of doing that, but it's just a lot more like systematic and maybe less creative but more effective.
A
Argentina being the Warriors. Do you have any objections to that? I don't know enough about Argentina.
C
They both have old teams.
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Yeah.
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Legacy with the Goat, kind of. And like, they have won chips in the past and are they gonna be able to do it again? I think it's actually pretty solid. Also, I did hear another NBA comparison with soccer that was interesting.
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Hit me.
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Someone compared Zlatan, and I don't know enough about basketball to know if this is accurate. He's LeBron, I heard.
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Oh, I mean, wait a minute. Give me another guess.
B
The LeBron story is.
A
Give me another guess. Give me another guess.
B
Okay, go ahead.
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Is he a current player? No. Has. How long has he been out?
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To be honest with you, I don't know.
A
Did he play during your lifetime?
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No, I don't think so.
A
No. Magic Johnson.
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People have compared him to Magic, but that was not the highest voted one on Reddit.
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It.
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It was this guy, Dominique Wilkins.
A
No, that's hate. They hating, bro.
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That's what they said. I don't know enough about basketball, but the comments were like, oh, that's actually pretty solid.
A
That's Europeans that don't know anything about basketball.
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See, I don't know enough about Dalton or whatever they.
A
Oh, no, that's hate.
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He never won like the big trophies. Had a like crazy highlights. Like, highlights where you're like, oh, this is the most insane thing.
A
He never won a championship. He never won like there's a lot
B
of trophies in Europe. So like he won like some of the local trophies, but never like the biggest ones.
A
Okay.
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And so this is, this is what the. This is what.
A
So that's the knock on him. He never won the big ones.
C
But is he a flashy player who's awesome?
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Yeah, like the most flashy. Like, has some of the craziest goals you've ever seen in your life. Like, if you look at his highlight reel, you're like, this must be the
A
greatest player of all different types of flash. It's not like this is how the
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comment characterize it and what people liked. Amazing highlight reel. Came close to the MVP a few times, but never won it. Won national titles, but never got close to the two big ones, which is World cup and Champions League. Career numbers are very good, but maybe not an all timer.
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Oh, they're saying he's not an all timer.
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But like for me, Zlotson, like his, his aura, his, his. His mystique is greater because he played for Sweden and like Sweden was never really like a big.
A
So he didn't have a chance to actually.
B
Right.
A
Compete at the World Cup.
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But if you look at his highlights, you're like, oh, this is the greatest guy ever.
C
And then does Kyrie have a chip?
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Yeah, with LeBron. Oh, okay. Outside of that.
C
No.
B
There's another little fun. Little NBA crossover.
A
Yeah.
B
You know, kind of, kind of interesting.
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So. So what about his time in Barcelona? I saw somewhere where he was like, I was miserable there.
B
Oh, maybe. I don't know.
A
But like, do you know anything about his time in Barcelona?
B
No. I can't speak because somebody was saying.
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Talking to him about happiness or something like that. He was being interviewed and he was like, are you happy? He goes, happiness is moments. He's like, sometimes you're happy, sometimes you're not. Happiness is moments. My dream, my whole life was to play for Barcelona. I went there and it was my nightmare. So happiness is moments. He's a sophisticated thinker.
B
He's like a monk.
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Yeah. Like, yeah, Like, I would really love to talk to him.
B
Right.
A
Yeah. Zlatan, you got to come on the pod, man. Like, I would. I'm very interested in his, like, competitive mindset, but also just, like, life mindset. Yeah. It seems like he's really grinded his gears on everything that he's done, you know, it doesn't seem like his decisions are frivolous. Yeah. And I'm curious about that. Yeah.
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No, he seems like. He seems like a fucking. Like a karate master.
A
Yes.
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You know what I mean?
A
Yeah. Yeah.
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Or he just, like, knows the right things to say. He kind of speaks in, like, riddles sometimes.
A
I think he treats it like martial arts. Yeah. His approach to it seems more martial arts based. Yeah. Also, happiness is moments. Like, what athlete, you know, would have a bar like that? You know what I mean? Yeah.
B
All right, so who do you have in the final tomorrow? Argentina versus England. Falkland's revisited.
A
I think it's coming home, man. I think it's coming home. I hate to say, my Scottish family's gonna be furious now.
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I'm with you. I'm fully with you.
A
I think it's coming home, man.
B
I want England. I want England badly.
C
I want England.
B
I want England to beat Argentina. I want to beat Spain.
A
I think it's coming home, man.
B
And that's the true Knicks fan comparison right here. Right. It might finally be their year.
A
Hey, I think it's coming home, man.
B
So according to Kalshee for the game tomorrow, aka today, England advances 53% over Argentina. England's actually the favorite. Kind of crazy.
C
Why is that?
B
I don't know. I mean, England's been playing well. They got, like, maybe more star power. I don't know.
C
But Argentina got bb.
B
Yeah, but Argentina was squeaking by all their games. They beat, like, a one man down. Switzerland squeaked by Cape Verde, squeaked by Egypt. So it's like they haven't been playing, like, out of their minds. They've just been, like, barely getting by all these games.
C
Interesting.
A
Okay.
B
Whereas England's been looking pretty good. And then going into the final, they put Spain at a favorite at 58%.
A
Well, I think England's going to do it, man. I think it's going to be a historic year for underdogs. I think Knicks win. I think England wins.
B
And I think the English fans would appreciate it more.
A
There'll be no rowing in New York. There'll be no rowing in New York. There'll be no fucking rowing. There'll be no rowing. There'll be no talking Bowen in New York.
B
Ugh.
A
That's awesome. We might have to go to the final if they're in it, but we gotta get that little cheat sheet with the chants before. Is there like a WhatsApp we can get on?
B
Oh, yeah, yeah. I've always wondered that. Like, how do they know where to sit? Oh, how do they know? Like, hey, guys, we're all gonna be on this goal?
C
No, when you're buying tickets, don't they
B
do like says it?
C
Yeah.
B
Damn. I'm dumbass.
A
You going to the game tomorrow? You already went to the Franz Morocco joint.
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I was wondering. I was like, why are they all over there?
A
How was that? That before we get into Teamaska, can you tell me about going to the
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games is just the coolest thing ever.
A
Like, you just feels no different, by the way.
B
Yeah, right.
A
That's 200 worth of difference.
B
But just walk into the stadium and seeing the field is just like, holy. You feel like you're in Harry Potter. Shit. Feels like Quidditch.
A
You're like, oh, different than watching a NFL football game.
B
I've never been in an NFL game.
A
Got it.
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So I can't say, but I imagine similar. It's just like this massive, perfect, green, lush field. All the fans are just like, awesome. And there was actually a ton of Morocco fans. Didn't expect how many there would be in Boston. They all came down from Montreal.
A
That makes sense. Yeah. And do they. Is. Is it charged up outside coming in? Like, when do you start feeling the energy?
B
I mean, getting in was an insane fiasco.
A
Why?
B
I mean, just like the traffic, the stadium, the way it was coming. Like, I don't think they use the normal protocols that they use for past games because it was just crazy. Like, trying to get in there was a nightmare.
C
Can't be worse than day three of the Jay Z concert.
A
But did you also go to that?
B
Maybe.
A
So Team Oaska. Right to Jay Z, day three. So it really tested your patience. So we're going to talk about that.
B
But then we got the greatest hookup ever. Dove got on the line with Lt. Mock and Lt. Mock was like just a legendary dude from Boston, born and raised, and he's just a police captain that helped us park illegally on the median. Okay. And then every word that he used was just a different Bostonism. So he's like, yes, Lieutenant Mock, am I talking to Mark? And I was like, yeah, it's Mark. He was like, all right, Mark, you're going to park your car. You got it? Seemed like he was doing it on purpose. He was like, you gotta go, Pacquia car up on the median right there. Right in front of the Chick Fil A Pacquia. And I was like, on the. We're all laughing in traffic, trying to hold it in while he's on speakerphone being like, you alone? And I was like, no, I'm with everyone. He's like, okay, all right. And you're like, I'm sure he could hear us laughing. And then we like pulled up and dapped us up and listened again. Dove goes, he goes, how far are you? How far are you away? And Mark goes, I don't know, a hundred meters? And he goes, meters?
A
What the fuck?
B
I love it. Literally, he goes, what were you European? Am I talking to a European guy? So funny. But yeah, it was amazing going to the game. It was nice going with Dove.
A
Yeah.
B
You know, it was nice going with Dove. It is sad because it wasn't like the greatest showing, so it was kind of like a one sided game.
A
But.
B
But we had a wonderful time. Yeah, it was truly amazing. All the games have been awesome. Tomorrow I'm a little worried about. Because it's going to be tense because
A
of the historical implications.
C
Yeah.
A
More tense than the French Morocco game. Yeah.
B
I don't know if there's animosity like that. I don't know if it's the same way, because France, Morocco, like, I think also any type of like colonized country. And I'm gonna speak out of turn here a little bit, but like, I think there's a little bit of symbiosis. Cause there's like a lot of cultural trade over.
A
Right.
B
So it's like you're upset about the treatment.
A
You love the coffee, but.
B
Yeah, exactly. And so like the French, get some coffee. There's a Moroccan guy that lives down the street from you, Morocco, they speak a lot of French. There's like a. There's something that's connected. Whereas Argentina, England, there was just a bloody war where a thousand people died and they hate each other.
A
Yeah. Over some islands that neither of them really give a fuck about.
B
Exactly.
A
Ye.
B
So it's like, that's just a blood feud. There's a quote that I heard from.
A
How did England lose that one?
B
Well, I think they got it back, right. I don't even know really who controls the Falklands right now.
A
Oh, I thought they got. I thought they lost that.
B
Adam Miles, do you know who controls the Falklands? It's. The Falkland Islands are self governed British overseas territory. So, yeah, I think under a 2009 constitution, the islands have full internal self government. The UK is responsible for foreign affairs. So, yeah, the UK went and got it back, and the Argentines are not happy about it.
A
And what's on these islands? Is it just having access in the region?
B
I'm assuming.
A
So they just put a base over
B
there or some shit, something like that. But like, Margaret Thatcher was like, yo, we need that. That was reason too, that. She was in the 80s.
A
Margaret Thatcher, man, she. She did not give a. Yeah, she
B
was like, it's so funny. There's an interview for being like, these islands are ours. It's like you've. They're 10, 000 miles away. You're not even close.
A
Yeah.
B
She's like, it's obviously English.
A
It is, but why?
B
And she's like, look at it.
A
I mean, didn' state apartheid in South Africa, probably.
B
Look, I support Liverpool, so I hate Margaret Thatcher, and I'm. Whatever they want to say, what is their chance? Maggie, Maggie, Maggie, die, die, die.
A
Yeah, she's in a box or something about that, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
B
They hate Margaret Thatcher, so I'm like, all right, they're up to something. I think they're on. I think they're on.
A
And also they hate one of the newspapers. Is it the Sun? Oh, yeah, right.
B
I don't remember which one, but I think it was because they reported on the Hillsborough massacre or something.
A
Yes. Yeah, there was like a death at the stadium, so people got trampled or
B
something like that, right?
A
Yeah, yeah.
B
But, yeah, Maradona had a quote back in the day which was playing against England, and the quote is like basically saying, like, we have to kill these people. I'm assuming it's. It's real. It's possible that it might not be, but I saw it on. On Twitter and it was like, like, these people killed our brothers, they killed our cousins, and we're gonna kill them. I was like, damn. All right, so we're gonna see. Tomorrow is gonna be. It's gonna be a lot.
A
Do you. Do you really think England gives a flying about Argentina anymore? I mean, I don't think so. I don't even think they're thinking about it. They don't got money in the ATM machines. I think maybe there was a point in time where there was some historical
B
significance, but anytime there's a World cup game and you got some hooligan, some
A
proper geezers down there, they gonna bring it up.
B
Yeah, dude. The veneers are gonna be in full display, and they're gonna be going at it. Dude, once you got the veneers out. Ibiza.
A
Ibiza.
B
They took a break from Ibiza this weekend to go down and fight some guys in Atlanta. It's gonna be awesome. But, yeah, the World Cup's just the best.
A
Now, who are you going with?
B
I'm going with my buddy Jaime and another one of our friends that lives down there.
A
Oh, man.
B
So it's gonna be a nice little. It's gonna be a nice little vibe.
A
All right, Alex, tell us about Timoasa. So just to put this in perspective, for anybody who did not watch last week, Alex planned on doing ayahuasca, and he was paying $200 for the session. We immediately called Neal Brennan, who has done tens of sessions, and he was like, that seems eerily low. Concerningly low. It should be five times the price of that. I would be very concerned. That's what he said to you going into this, and you still decided to go. Yeah, okay.
C
Cause he's just one of these gringos that gets tricked. What the fuck?
B
Sorry, this is a different video. I want to bring a very funny video, but I'll bring it up later.
C
You know, but he's one of these, you know, Hollywood guys that just gets tricked into anything and overpriced. But you know what? It felt like going to the authentic Mexican spot that Mexican people are eating there because 90% of the people there only spoke Spanish.
A
Interesting.
C
All from South America. Like, ice would have had a field day. Put it like that. Really?
A
Yeah.
C
Yeah. So I felt like once I was there, I was like, oh, I'm doing the real. Yeah.
B
So take us through the experience. What happened?
C
Okay. Oh, my God. Where I start so much. So you guys put that in my head, and I was worried about that.
A
This guy.
C
What?
A
Oh, my gosh. Where do I even start? Yo, it's so much.
C
I had to.
B
I had to. Crazy. I took the line. Okay. I went to Hobo.
C
Well, I'm thinking about the whole weekend.
A
Drive there. Or Airbnb.
C
I drove.
A
What did you wear?
C
Just some sweats and a tee.
A
You didn't. Alex, mediate.
C
Nah, I Wanted to be comfortable. I want to be comfortable.
B
Full burlap suit.
C
Yeah, actually, I did kind of because I did all black, and then my next day outfit was all white. It's like, I'm born again type of shit. So I did. There was some intention with the fits.
B
Before it even happens. You're like, I'm gonna be so born again.
A
I'm not even gonna talk about the connotations Alex has with the colors white and black. But, like, you basically voiced it all to yourself. Stop it, stop it. So you saying you did a. You get the black out of here.
B
He didn't even support the black team. France.
A
He supported.
B
He supported the colonizers. White, Spanish.
C
There was two black players on Spanish team.
A
Nico. Yes, Nico, let's go. Okay, okay, so you go. You're in your black outfit. You go, yeah, okay, let's.
C
All right, So I go from Thursday filming Charlemagne Academics, then following day, Jay Z, day one. And then straight from the concert, I go home, pick up my stuff, drive to Jersey. It was like, at some mansion. It was one of the guys who was partaking. He's a doctor. So he.
A
He offered to.
C
He offers his place. Yeah. So it was huge house.
A
The fact that there's a doctor there is comforting. Yes.
B
And what kind of doctor?
C
I didn't ask.
A
Chiropractor.
C
Didn't ask. But I was. I was curious. I. I talked to him. I was like, yo, how do you do this? And like, I know you believe in Western medicine. He's like, nah, Western medicine. Of course I believe in it, but it's just. Just like, it's so small. Just scratch the surface. Like, this is this, like. And I was like, okay, okay. I feel good about that. So, yes. I have in my head the conversation that we had here, and I'm like, wondering. I'm like, fuck, I hope I didn't get got. I'm like. So we start the whole situation. I. I'm starting to feel like.
A
You drank the drink.
C
I drank the drink.
A
You all sit around in a circle.
C
We're all sitting around. Yes.
A
Music playing.
C
Yeah, they're, like, playing the drums and
A
that kind of stu. You're starting to feel some vibes. Is there any talking that's happening and
C
what language is it in while the first thing we're doing is, like, some powder. I don't know the names, all this stuff, like rape and then some other stuff. So whatever, that's cool. But you do have to take something to get your.
A
They gave you.
B
But you have another guest just for the joke. I mean, he's got to be another. Another guest. That's not rapping.
C
His goal. That's what his goal is.
A
Okay, so you take the rape.
C
Yes.
A
And then you take the.
C
You take the rape. Because it helps. Sorry, it helps the DMT not get broken down into your stomach after you take the ayahuasca. And so but while that's happening, it takes a while for it to get in your system. So we're all just talking like, you know, intentions or why you're here or just any comments or whatever. And so like, everybody's going around and then the doctor is translating everything for me because everybody's speaking in Spanish.
A
So is anybody sharing some wild ass shit that you're like, Yo, I would say super wild.
C
Like, there was one girl who like recently got married and she was conflicted with having to change her last name. Or her parents are pressuring her that, oh, you're giving up the family.
A
She did ayahuasca to decide whether she should change her last name.
C
No, no, no. That was just something that was on her mind.
B
You the person with the least problems.
C
But she's right.
A
Imagine being the next person who's like, yeah, I was brutally raped a lot, so I don't even know. I feel comfortable doing this powder O.
C
So, yeah, we're all going around, we're doing that. And then we finally drink the ayahuasca.
A
Is it hot?
B
Is it cold?
C
No, it's cold. And actually it's like a little sweet, but it's kind of bitter at the same time. Like, they probably put something to make it a little bit sweeter.
A
What color is it?
C
It's like a dark, dark brown.
A
Okay.
C
Yeah. So, yes, take that. And then they're playing music. Everybody just starts to lay down. Cause it usually takes anywhere from like 30 minutes to an hour for it to feel the effects. And so. So at this point, time is starting to get a little blurry. I don't know exactly how much time passed by. So I'm laying down and then I start to feel like my body getting lighter. And it's like. It reminded me when I did the past life regression when it felt like my spirit was kind of like lifting out of my body. And then I'm feeling it elevate. And then all of a sudden I'm hearing noises. And then I lose concentration and it dropped back down into me. And so then that happened like three or four times.
A
Times.
C
And I'm gonna tell you, the noises I was hearing, I didn't find that till after the fact what it was. But I'll keep going. So it happens. And then I'm like, fuck, I need to concentrate harder. Like, I'm fucking it up. And then it stopped happening. And it stopped happening for like 10 minutes. And I'm like, these motherfuckers. So now it's like, mind you, they take everybody's phones, take your car keys because they don't want anybody, like, bugging out and shit. And so now I'm like, holy shit. I'm surrounded by a bunch of people laying down. I don't want to interrupt this whole thing. I'm going to have to lay here for five hours, wide awake, sober as fuck, with no phone. This is going to be horrible. Next thought I have, I'm being woken up and told I need to hurry up and run upstairs. So everybody's in this commotion, grabbing their stuff. We're running upstairs. Let me just get to that part, because I find this out when I'm about to leave. Why we all had to run upstairs. So basically there was a kid there that was doing it. 17. And they actually give this to kids. I didn't realize this, but, like, in Central and South America, like, they give this to, like, babies. They'll put it on their pacifier and, like, get them used to ayahuasca even at a young age. This kid, 17, I think, like, he maybe has, like, behavioral issues or whatever the case is. So he's seeing one other lady, like, vomit, and then it gets him sick, and then he gets upset and he tries to leave. He's like, fuck this shit. I'm leaving. And so they're trying to, like, you know, keep him here, calm him down, but he's just like, whatever. He gets access to his phone calls. 9, 1 1.
A
There's no way. There's no way.
C
So when they found out out that he called 91 1, now you got a bunch of people laying on the ground high on ayahuasca, which is illegal. And there's illegal.
A
Oh, no, no, no.
B
Inside and outside illegal, bro.
C
Mind you, I am so out of it. I have no idea what the is going on. I'm just like.
B
But you don't think you're out of of it?
C
No.
A
It's like, at this point, do you
C
know like, oh, yeah, when I woke up that point, I was like, oh, this is the real. Like, it was a much stronger feeling than that initial situation. And I'm like, I'm in it.
B
But usually you can still see where you are.
C
Yeah. So when you Open your eyes. The world is regular. It's not like mushrooms, where you're hallucinating or anything like that. Yeah, you close your eyes, a movie is going on.
A
Like, what?
C
Like, I'm seeing. Seeing geometric shapes. I'm seeing, like, the best way I can describe it. I don't know. You probably didn't see this movie, Doctor Strange, Multiverse of Madness, where there's a scene where he's going through all these different. Like, different universes. And it's like, first it's water, first it's geometrical shapes versus glass shattering, shit like that. I'm seeing that, and at the same time, I'm having memories from my life just, like, replaying and stuff like that. And then surprisingly enough, enough it's like, all stuff from, like, the past month. I'm thinking I was gonna just like, oh, go back and go into my childhood, and it's like traumas and all that. It was just replaying this last month, which was really fun. Like, I see all you guys popped up, like, you know, my girl, family, all that type of stuff, but us at the game, it was just crazy. It was just all recent stuff and. And the craziest thing or the biggest takeaway so far that I've processed was that I'm talking to my different consciousness at the same time. So I'm talking to my consciousness, my subconscious, and other things. It's happening simultaneously, and I'm aware of everything. It is so crazy. So imagine this memory is playing. I'm like the director and I'm acting in it, and I'm the audience member and I'm controlling the cameras. There's one time I'm watching the memory and then it just zooms out, and then it's. I'm watching it. Bird's eye view, and then there's still geometric shapes going on here while I'm thinking about this memory and talking about it and being in it at the same time. Like, it was nuts.
A
Do you throw up at all?
C
Yeah, I threw up. Like, in the beginning stage when you. You're given the first stuff, that's what makes you a little bit nauseous.
A
The rape throw up. Not the ayahuasca.
C
No.
B
So did the police come?
C
They did.
B
And they went downstairs?
C
Yeah, they went down. They, like, cleaned up everything. And so they took the kid, took the mom. They went to the hospital. Mind you, the mom had two other kids there, 8 and 10. So.
A
Also doing it?
C
No, they weren't doing it. But later on that night, the Child Protective services came and like, interviewed the kids to make. Luckily, everything's fine, the kid's fine. Mom didn't get in trouble, but. Yeah. No, no, no, it's not. I find this out after when I'm leaving.
A
Yeah.
C
And from the girl that. That invited me, she's like, oh, my God, I'm so sorry. I'm like, why do you apologize? It's like, no. From what happened. And it's. It's like, what happened? Like, I'm. I had no idea. And she's like, you know, all the commotion and the police and all that. It's like the police are hitting, like, now I'm getting where. It's like, did I almost get locked up?
A
Like, what the fuck?
C
And then that's when I found out all that stuff happened. And she felt so bad. She's like, I don't want this to be your first experience, you know? I was like, yo, I had the most amazing.
A
Did she offer you a free. No, no. That's fucked up. The cops come, they move you to a different room. You got off for a little rebate.
B
If you're at a restaurant and the cops show up and they have to be like, hey, we're going to move you to the dining room.
A
They're going to comp the meal.
B
You got to comp the meal.
A
I don't know how much cheaper she can make it, but probably the thing.
C
Trust me, the lady that does this, she's been practicing medicine for, like, 35 years. Her parents and her grandparents all did this. Like, she's from a lineage of, like, medicine people. Yeah. And so she has a license from the Colombian government that allows her to travel with. Because I was wondering. I was like, how do you get it into the States? She's like, no, no, she legally can
A
travel with all the stuff out of Colombia. You can't. Getting it into America is.
C
No, no, no. Like, she can. She can travel with it. She just can't give it out,
A
but
C
she can travel all around the world with it. But you're not supposed to, like, give to people.
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ultimate Red Bull experience. Think you have what it takes? So what were your takeaways from these like visions you were seeing?
C
Like I'm still processing a little bit of it but yeah it's, I can just tell like this is scratching the surface. Like I know now and I was already know like of course we're so small in this grand but you get a better understanding of how small we
A
really are and what gave you the, what gave you that feeling One of the visions.
C
It's. It's not necessarily a vision. It's like a feeling, and it's like, oh, wow. I can feel how small I am in this grand scheme of things. And it's. It's like some of. Some of these shapes and things. Like, I can't even imagine seeing the things that I saw. Saw. Like, I'm, like, seeing stuff for the first time. It's just really. It was such. It was enlightening. It was really fun because I was, like, scared. I was like, oh, what if I don't come back? What if this changed me forever? Like, I was scared going into it. I will absolutely do it again.
A
Really?
C
Absolutely. Without a question.
A
How soon?
C
I'm gonna wait some time. I want to, like, think, journal a little bit, process. Probably maybe, like, a year.
A
Oh, okay.
C
Yeah.
B
All right.
A
All right. So you're not in any rush to experience again.
C
And so the doctor, he put it the best way. He's like, think of the medicine like your iPhone. You can pick up your phone. You have access to all the information in the world, but when you pick it up, you only get a little bit of information, what you're searching for that one time.
A
Yeah.
C
It's like, when you take the medicine, you have access to all the answers of the universe, but every single time you sit with it, you're only gonna get a little bit, and it's gonna be a different experience every single time. No two times are gonna be the same. And it's like, think of it like information. He's like, some people go into it looking for, like, oh, I need to be healed, or whatever. He's like, no, you're just getting information. Do with that information what you want. Yeah. That's why I was like, I really think Mark especially. Because this Mr. Curious, he wants to know everything. And I'm like, you would absolutely love it. And it doesn't feel like you're on drugs. I love the fact that I open my eyes and the world is regular. That's. It was comforting. I'm like, oh, even though this lasts, like, eight hours.
A
Yeah.
C
There was a time I woke up and I thought it was done, because I was like, okay. Because you feel it, it comes in waves. So, like, when you close your eyes, when you're, like, at the top of the wave, the. Everything going on is a lot more than when you're. When you're at the bottom of the wave, it's like, it's still happening, but it's, like, less intense. So when I was like, towards the end of a wave, and then it wasn't coming back. I was like, okay, I guess this is towards the end. And then maybe, like, probably, like, six hours passed by or whatever. I was like, okay, makes sense. So, like, I start to get up, walk around. I have, like, a banana. I, like, eat a little bit, drink or whatever. And then I was like, I'm kind of feeling tired. I sit down for a bit, close my eyes. Boom, I'm back. Whoa.
A
Yeah.
C
It wasn't that.
B
Feelings of interconnectedness.
C
Not so much. I was thinking, because from all the research I've done and people that I've talked to who have done it, they're like, oh, they can feel or see the other people in the room. I had none of that. Like, it felt like I was alone when I closed my eyes. Yeah.
B
Do they use tobacco at all?
C
Yeah, that's one of the things they get. Give you. And that is weird. It's like they, like, blow it up your nose, and it's like. It's intense as that.
A
Like, I was like, whoa, that gets you back.
C
No, no, that's in the beginning stage. It kind of like, they say it, like, cleanses you and helps your body be more, like, open to what's about to happen. Right? Yeah.
A
Holy.
C
Yeah. I'm telling you, everyone should do it.
B
Any experience that you had or anything that you thought about that you won't show
C
good things. But I thought about my girl a lot, and, like, in a way where it's just like, oh, I need to be better, because she's, like, amazing, you know? Yeah.
A
Oh, so you had a lot of gratitude.
B
Yeah.
A
Oh, that's good.
B
That's Mother Gaia. See, that's what happens.
A
Mother Gaia.
B
That's what I'm saying. Ayahuasca is a. You see, the female, the perfect female, the divine female. That's why women are cool with us taking it, you know? I mean, and then you take and you come back out, you're like, dude, my girl's awesome. They're like, yeah, take it again. Who cares?
C
Yeah. I'm telling you. I know.
A
You're. You're convincing me a little bit.
B
Yeah.
C
But I like it. It doesn't even feel like one of those things you can take and go crazy. Everybody there is like, all right, regular, normal. You feel normal.
A
Yeah.
C
And then when it's over, everybody's back to being normal.
A
Yeah.
C
It's like there's no hangover feeling.
A
Like, I felt perfect.
B
I'm always curious how they figured it out. That's the thing. I can never. I can never get to the bottom
A
of break it down, like.
B
Because I forget exactly where ayahuasca, like, originates. It was like, the jungles of, like, I don't know, Brazil, maybe.
A
I don't think it originated in one place. Like, I think indigenous cultures all through, like, Central and South were doing versions of it.
B
And I'm like, you have to take two brews for it to work. Yeah. And I'm like, how did they discover these two things? When you mix them together and you drink them simultaneously or one after the other, that it creates this effect.
A
It's like an Arnold Palmer.
B
But who figured out the Arnold Palmer? Well, someone fucking loved.
A
Well, Arnold Palmer.
C
But I do think it was probably a mistake.
A
Lemonade, you love iced tea. And then you go, that could be good together. Yeah. Like, you just mix and shit. Like, have you ever tried mole?
B
Yeah. Mole's fire.
A
Yeah. Back in the day, making food was just mixing shit. See what happens. So I don't think they intended it to, like, make you meet Mother Gaia, but they ran out of cilantro and they're like, all right, throw that in there. And then they had a.
B
Awesome.
A
This batch of tacos is incredible. That's right.
C
I do want to try smoking the dmt because it's, like, much shorter. Like, this is like, you have to devote a weekend to it.
A
Yeah. It's such an Americanized version of it.
C
Yeah.
A
It's like, okay, well, what's the fun part? Just the dmt. Okay. We'll find a synthesized version of that in and out and then done.
C
They used to, in the Amazon, they would smoke it too, but they could
A
isolate the DMT to smoke or you have to go through.
C
It's really just like a root. You grind it up and. Yeah.
A
Got smoke it.
C
Boom. Takes you there immediately.
A
Yeah. I remember a girl at Burning man offered me some. It was. This was like. This is years, I think, might have been my first burn. And I was just kind of, like, wandering or maybe my second. I forget. And then, like, I met this girl, and it was just, like, instant vibes, and we were just kind of, like, talking. And then she was like, here, do you want? I was like, what is it? Because I didn't even smoke weed, I think, at the time.
C
Whatever.
A
She's like, it's dmt. And I was like, I think it was a pen. Does it come in pen? Okay. Yeah. And I was like, ah, I'm good. And the second I said, I'm good, it was like some sort of cosmic separation between the two of us. I don't know what that was about. And it didn't feel like, I wonder if she was already high, probably with like, you know what I mean?
B
With all the respect. I mean, you're a catch. Don't get me wrong, you know,
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I
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don't want you to get the wrong. But she was definitely tripping balls.
A
No, she was tripping balls. But it felt like me saying no, like, not want to say scared her. But, like, she was like, oh, we're
B
not on the same vibe. Yeah, I'm on a wave right now. And I think you're on the same wave. And then you're like, nah, I'm not on the wave. And she's like, oh, we're not. We're not.
A
Like, the initial moment felt like it was like the world presented us to each other or something like that. And then I was like, I think I'm good on dmt. And then it was like, the world has not presented us. It was that stark a separation.
B
My buddy has such a funny story of doing dmt. Maybe I've told you before, but in brief, he had, like, written out this whole journal and he was like, okay, I want to work on this and I need to think about this thing and my relationship with this person that had this whole thing lays in his bed, rips the pen, falls back, and then goes and sees a bunch of, like, elves. And the elves are like, isn't that part of it?
A
You see, like, the gnome or something?
B
Yeah. Which I think happens more with DMT than Ayahuasca. I'd say, like, results may vary. And he, like, he's in a waiting room and they're, like, showing him pictures and stuff. And they're like, yeah, you can't go in yet. You're not ready. And he's like, come on, guys, let me in. And then they're like, all right, fine. And so then they open up and he goes in like a club, and there's like an elf dj and, like, all the elves are partying and they're like, yo, he's here. And they're all excited. They're like, yo, the dude's here. And they're, like, showing him around, and they've shown him all the shit and it's legit. Feels like five minutes. And then he walks out back through the same waiting room. They show him some more pictures. They're like, look at our furniture. And it's all like, weird fucking, like, Dolly esque furniture, furniture. And Then he, like, zaps back out, just laying in his bed, and then looks at his notes that have like, think about your mother. And he's like, the
A
just went to
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a party with elves, and they were like, yo. And that was the whole experience. So he was like, I didn't really get much out of it. But he said, like, his takeaway was like, that's kind of the point is that I went in trying to fix my whole life when really I just need to be kind of having fun. And like.
C
Yeah.
B
And I was like, oh, that's a
A
good way to look.
C
I'm. I'm glad that I. I did this because I been thinking about doing ayahuasca for years now. But it was like, now I want to be in a place where I'm like, I feel good, you know, like, not like, oh, I'm working through something,
A
and it's like, yeah, you don't want to. I love the fact that the ayahuascao said that it's not a place to go for a quick fix. I think a lot of times people are, like, either really suffering or dealing with something, and then they go there for this quick fix. But going there for exploration and, like, being open to whatever interpretation of these events. Yeah, you have. Yeah. I think that's a good reminder, even for life, you know? Like, I think so often we're trying to, like, control life and allowing. Was it allowing yourself to interpret life in either the best or worst possible, in a way, for whatever you're going through is a choice. And sometimes, I guess we need to induce it with drugs.
C
Yeah.
A
Yeah.
B
And then maybe you being all the. All the people in the play is kind of a part of it. You know, it's like, you are the person watching this right now. You're me, I'm you, you're Miles, and maybe we're all the same thing. Fucking homo. And then you left that, and you went straight to this.
C
Oh, yes.
B
Did you literally go straight from there directly to this concert?
C
No. I first did an episode of AM Mornings, so I slept. I actually drove home Saturday night. So I got there Saturday, Saturday, early, like 8am we drank around 10, and then I think I left around midnight. Whoa. So I left, slept in my own bed, woke up.
A
Are you eating anything while you're there?
C
No, not really, because.
A
Were you starving at the end of it? Yeah.
C
Yeah. Like, when I got home, I, like, found pizza and I went, yeah, because you have to fast like the day before. So day one, I'm at the Jay Z Concert and I was in the suite with Charlemagne and you know, sweet. They have all this food, drinks, can't
A
touch any of it. What about water? Water, Water, Yeah.
C
That's only the.
A
But imagine just like, oh, all this food's probably immaculate.
C
Yeah. But the concert, it was fine. I was still amped up, still had all the energy in the world.
A
Okay, tell us about the Sunday Jay Z concert.
C
So the Sunday Jay Z concert. So I get there and I was worried.
A
I was for anybody unaware Sunday, something happened and they delayed the concert start for like four hours.
B
Yeah.
A
So that's why Sunday was like different than the other days.
B
But it's at Yankee Stadium.
A
It's like a massive.
C
Yep.
A
So break it down. What's happening?
C
So I get there around 8:15. Show's supposed to start at 8, but I remember Friday, the show didn't start until like almost nine. So I'm like, ah, whatever. I was taking my time. So I get there and when I got there, they already said, oh, gates are closed. I'm like, what do you mean gates are closed? Close. And so they're like, we don't know, security issue. So I'm texting everybody. I'm like hitting Charlemagne. I'm hitting like this security guy inside. It was like, all right. So what I'm hearing is that people showed up early. They bum rushed to get inside because they didn't have tickets. And it's too big of a security risk for Yankee Stadium because if they got in with a weapon, now Yankee Stadium's liable if anything happens. And it's just going to cost them way too much money if some shit happens. So. So it seems as though they locked down the doors and tried to track all those people that came inside via cameras. Whoa, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. That's what I'm hearing from the security people.
B
And this is a video of people getting in.
A
So there were people who bum rushed and got in?
C
Yeah, yeah. So imagine if any one of those people got in with a gun.
A
Oh my God.
C
And then goes on like a mass shooting or whatever, that Yankee Stadium's closed forever, or new owners are gonna have to take over.
B
And if you're someone that snuck in, you're like, yo, I'm just gonna hide out in the bathroom for an hour, wait for the concert. They're gonna start eventually and then I'll just walk in.
C
Yeah. So now they have to go through all the fucking cameras, try to track every single person in this giant stadium. And it took them about three and a half hours.
A
And they found all the people.
C
I'm not sure, but I would think so if they went through with the show. I think so. But Jay Z didn't start. Like, people out inside were upset. People outside were fucking pissed off. Like, it was.
A
I knew somebody who left. He was there with his kid.
C
Yeah.
A
And he left.
C
A friend of mine left, too.
A
Ten minutes before he started. I waited four hours. And then he heard rumors that they weren't going to start. So he got his kid who got school in the morning. It's like, oh, no.
C
I kept checking with Charlamagne. I'm like, charlamagne, you're a Roc Nation employee, right? Is this show happening?
A
Dub was there, and he was texting me, and he was like, yeah, I'm talking. I'm with the Live Nation guys right now. They said they're going to do it. Okay, it's going to happen. So I was like, okay, it's going to happen. How long are they going to push it? And then are they going to do anything in the interim? Like, what is the.
C
I think they just had a DJ on.
A
Barely. Almost.
C
Yeah.
A
And then. Okay, so once it goes, the concert's gonna start. What is the reaction?
C
So everybody, like, instantly forget that they were just upset. And it's immediate hype. So immediately.
A
And what is the first sound that they hear?
C
What was. I think he started it with the intro to Reasonable Doubt, which is just like a harsh heartbeat.
A
Yeah.
C
And so, like, once people heard that, it's just like.
A
Because I imagine a lot of people that night were like, yo, it might not happen.
C
Yeah.
A
So they went from it might not happen to it's going down so immediate.
C
Once they opened the gates and started letting people in, we figured, okay, the show's going to go on. Because, like, why would you let everybody inside if you plan to?
B
And first night was Eminem as a guest.
C
No. Beyonce Dream. Memphis Bleak.
B
Oh, that was first night.
C
Yeah. Beyonce came out first night and third
B
night and the last night. Wow. And then also Rihanna.
C
Yeah, the Rihanna, Young Jeezy, Jada, Fat Joe, Pharrell. It was crazy. Honestly, probably the best concert I ever did, really. But of course, I'm Bob Bias. This is my favorite artist. But the fact that you just have all these heavy hitters that they're one waiting four hours for the show to start.
A
Yeah.
C
As Beyonce, you may wait four hours
A
for it to start.
C
And Rihanna and all these people. Young Jeezy, I heard, canceled his own show to be there.
A
No way.
B
Oh, my God. Wow. Was it cool being in Yankee Stadium. Yeah, like a concert there. Like, it works.
C
It felt so New York.
A
I bet.
C
Like, like the opposite of the Knicks
A
game in San Antonio.
C
Yeah, pretty New York, too. No, but I know how you were saying, like, MSG didn't feel like New York. Three. Yeah.
A
Game four. It felt like it.
C
Oh, okay.
A
But game three. But again, I was in a box. Game three. Game four, I was, I was in the.
C
But this felt like New York.
A
Yeah.
C
Like this was grinding.
A
Also, even if you're not from New York, you. You dress in a park because, you know, it's a New York moment a lot of times.
C
But I'm telling you, it was like, I would say average age is like mid-30s. Like, at least.
A
Yeah, yeah.
C
But this was fire. I was so hyped, and it was probably the best week of my life.
B
Really?
C
Yeah. Like, I don't know. How do you top this?
A
So nobody. Once it started, nobody cared.
C
Nobody.
A
And then it went on for how long? The concert? Two and a half hours, something like that.
C
Three hours.
A
Oh, my God. So people didn't get out of there until 3 in the morning.
C
I didn't get home till, like, 4:45.
A
Wow, wow, wow.
B
DMT is still ripping through your.
A
And everybody just hyped. Even in the box, everybody was just.
C
Because it was such a good show. It's like, how could you be mad?
A
Yeah.
C
Like, everybody's hyped. Yeah, I'm fucking, like, I'm in, like, the little 100 section. I should have been on the floor, but whatever. I'm in the 100 section. And it's like I'm around some heavy fans. Like, I'm just vibing with the fans that are, like, super hardcore. We're just rapping every single lyric. And. And then the girls around are just like. They get hype when Beyonce comes out and like that. But I'm just up. I know whoever was behind me was pissed. I didn't see at all. Oh, it was so fun.
A
There was, I wanted to go, man.
B
There was. Why you go?
C
You're a J fan.
A
Genuinely.
C
I,
A
I, I don't know. I'm like, I just want to be with the family. I don't know. It's a. I know it sounds like.
C
No, I don't respect it, but it is. Is like, this was a moment.
A
I know, I know. I thought about it, but it was like, same reason I didn't go to the, the. What's it called?
B
World Cup.
A
Yeah, the World Cup. You know, it was just like, the same reason I didn't Go to the Conor fight. Like, my buddies are all going to the Conor fight. You know, he's fighting Max and, like, you know, I got some friends, Wyatt, and. But I. Yeah, it's like, I'm doing this movie out in LA and, like, I don't know, my family's not going to come. The next two stints, I go out there and, like, I don't know, the kids are like this awesome age and I've had kids late, so all my friends with kids are telling me, like, man, it goes fast.
B
Yeah.
A
And I keep thinking about that every single time. My daughter's like, dad, can you give me a bath? Or dad, like. Or she wakes up at night and she's asking me to, like, lay down with her. And I think about that, like, literally every single moment. I'm just like, all right, how many times am I going to be able to do this?
B
Yeah.
A
How many times am I going to be able to pick her up and throw her in the pool? Like, eventually she'll get to an eight age where either she's too heavy or she's like, dad, stop throwing me up in the air and catch me pretty soon. Which is like.
B
Like seven years, Eight years.
A
Yeah. So, like, I don't know, I just frame things in that way. And that's awesome.
C
I respect.
A
Yeah. I want to just spend as much time with them as I can. And I don't.
C
She would have been high.
A
No, she would have. And again, like, I think if it's like, I knew I wasn't going to be away for 10 days in LA and then come back for four and then away again for 10 days, like, I think if I would have been. No question. Let's do it. If I was just hanging in the city and then there's no question I'm going out and going do it.
B
That's why I'm excited for my kid to get old enough where I can start taking them to stuff and have him appreciate it. Because then you don't have to choose. Then you just get all the love. It's like, hey, someone has an opportunity to go to a thing, buy a ticket, bring your kid. He has an amazing experience. And then you're like, oh, great, I just did all of them.
C
But it is a weird daughter comes
A
with me everywhere, bro.
B
Yeah.
C
I brought Jizi to the Knicks game. That was crazy.
A
But it is a weird feeling. It is a weird feeling because, like, I don't feel the fomo.
B
Yeah.
A
But if you ask me before kids, I would feel it isn't that so funny.
B
The people that ask me that, like, man, you probably gotta, like, give up a lot of stuff.
A
It's. You don't give up, you don't feel like it.
B
You do way less stuff.
A
Way less.
B
And you don't go to things. Yeah, but it's not fomo. No, it's like sometimes I'll have the opposite fomo because I've gone to stuff and been like, I would have much rather just done bedtime or like, my wife will send me a picture of, like, them reading and I'm like, I should. That seems way better.
A
Yeah.
B
Like, standing in the heat right now. Like, I'm. This sucks.
A
Yeah. And especially given the nature of what we do, we already are going to be spending less time with them because we'll be on the road, we'll be doing a project or something. So it's. If we were just doing. Working every single day during the week. And then you get to see them for dinner and you get to see them on the weekends, like my folks did for me, it's like, okay, well, yeah, go rip a concert, Go do whatever. But it feels. I think it feels a little indulgent when I'm already taking the time, time, time away. But yeah, I was surprised to not feel like the. It looks so cool and it looks so awesome. There's a part that wants to go, and that's where you wish you could teleport.
B
Yeah.
A
That's where you're like, can I take a helicopter and then drop right there? You know, like, you start doing the logistics of it. Yeah, but. But yeah, I don't know. For whatever reason I did, I was like, stoked that, like, Dub was texting me was happening. I'm in bed, like, texting. I'm like, really, like, interested and, like, excited by it. And I'm texting Charlamagne like, whoa, what do you think is actually happening? Like, and he's texting jokes back that I'm taking serious. And I'm like, do I share this with other people who are asking me what's happening? Like, like, Charlamagne told me something that it was the reason for why it was delayed. That, like, I didn't think was a joke at first. And then Eagle wit, you know, the comedian Eagle, is texting me like, yo, do you know what's happening? And I almost texted it to Eagle once it goes to Eagle it. And I had to ditch Charlotte back like, yo, is this, this a joke or not? And then he just, haha. And I'm like, oh, thank God. I just stuck that. I was very close.
B
You probably made the right decision not going to the McGregor fight, bro. With, with or without kids in the equation. Cuz that was sad.
A
Yeah.
B
It was just tough to watch.
A
Yeah.
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Ayahuasca. One day, it felt like I missed so much. The next day, people telling me that what's. Mitch McConnell died or the other one died.
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Fucking. They're like, yo, did you see this Conor fight? I'm like, how'd I miss so much? Why was it, We'll Change the world? No, the Conor fight, man, that was.
B
It just kind of a bummer, you know?
A
It was.
B
It was a bummer because, like, regard. Like, I'm happy that Max won, but it's like, I think even Max is
A
like, I feel bad for Max a little bit.
B
I want to fight. Like, I trained a lot for this. I did a whole camp.
A
Yeah. And it's like. Yeah. There's multiple ways of looking at it.
B
Right?
A
Because you're like, I feel bad. There's a part of me that, like, never wants Max to get punched again because I just think he's just the best guy. Yeah. And I'm like, wait, you can make tons of money and not get punched?
B
That's awesome.
A
Yeah. But there's also a part of me that looks at like, this man has dedicated his life to this thing, and he only gets to do it 35 times in his life, maybe total.
C
Is that the guy almost up, Mark?
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No, no.
B
Max would never.
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Max would never.
C
That was one ufc.
A
Oh, no, no, no. And that guy would. He absolutely would. But. But no, Max is the boy, bro. And you. You. You hung out with Max.
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Yeah.
A
Yeah.
B
He's just a true Hawaiian.
A
Yes.
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Like, that's the only way to really describe.
A
Shout out wa. Shout out wine. Ey, man.
B
He's a fighter. But that is kind of the Hawaiian spirit a little bit.
A
That's it.
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Like, they will scrap and throw down, but also, it's like, shoes, brother. Yeah, it's both.
A
Yeah. Just the most smiley, relaxed people who will absolutely beat the fucking dog out of you.
B
Yeah.
C
Okay.
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Yeah.
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Do you think McGregor was injured before? Yes.
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So the question, I think now isn't whether he was. I think it's whether he was aware of the extent. It is very possible that he just jumped, does the kick, and then lands in that angle, and you could see the knee kind of buckle inward, which is like usually what an ACL or MCL injury injury is. But it's also the case that these guys in fight camp, no guy Goes into a fight healthy. You were literally fighting to train for a fight. Have you ever had a fight that you walked out and you're like, oh, I feel great? You know what I mean?
C
Like, I was jogging yesterday. I rolled my ankle.
A
It's two weeks now, so it's like. And these guys are doing that every day for training. So everything I imagine hurts going into a fight. So no one's 100% healthy, but you Stiff upper lip it.
C
Yeah.
A
The question is, I heard he was
C
practicing that exact kick in the locker room.
A
They show a video of it, and
C
he looks perfect, and it looks good. Okay.
A
Okay. And now everybody's reading into everything. He was taking off his shoe, and he kind of, like, hobbles a little. You know, there's all these different things. The way that it. What I thought was so interesting about it, and I think there's a lot of things they're adding to it, is if you looked at his demeanor day of the first fight, it was so different than we've ever seen Conor look going into a fight. What do you say? I don't know. If, again, keep in mind, he hasn't fought for five years. He got too into alcohol and maybe other substances. He even acknowledged as much, and that kind of got, like, a grip of him. And then it looked like he had pulled himself away from that, we hope, and then dedicated himself one more time. And I think he was looking at this as, like, this beautiful reboot rebirth, you know, like, maybe he connected with God in a different way, and he was hoping to have that same rebirth. And then he went back to the source of all his pride for the money. Did he?
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No.
A
That's.
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That's the secret, though.
A
That's the.
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If he's.
A
If he's reborn, still in the darkness. Come on, man. Dude. So I wonder. I wonder if it's like. So I. There's a part I felt really bad, because I imagine he was like, I'm gonna be reborn in this thing that I dedicated my life to before the money, before the fame, when I was doing it, just to be the best at this specific thing. And then he goes out there, tries to do it, then immediately snaps it, and he can't even deliver. Even if he went out on his shields, he could do it with a sense of bravery and honor. But going out on like that, it's like.
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It's just sad.
A
And there's a moment where it looks like he, like, breaks down in the ring. He, like. Max says something to him, and then he, like, covers his face and he, like, I think goes down on his knees and then he gets back up. And I think he tries to, like, fight through it. But of course, you know, Twitter and Reddit are going to do all these things. Like, oh, he was going to a pain management institute and all this other stuff. And it's like, okay, yeah, maybe he was feeling pain because he's kicking shit for two months getting ready for a fight. Yeah, it just sucks.
B
People are like, why would he open up with that kick? I saw a compilation of him opening, like, all of his fights.
A
Yeah, he does. Yeah, he does. Like a crazy thing. Thing. Yeah. But again, it's just like, it's just one of you would hope that he wasn't injured going in. There's a chance that his knee was compromised. Like, his elbow's been compromised or his leg isn't compromised. Like, when he fought Dustin and. And he shattered his leg, it's like, that was probably compromised going in. But he was like, you know what? I'm going to fight anyway. When he won the championship and then won the other one at the same time, he was also probably compromising. So I, I wonder if in your head, as a fighter, you're like, yeah, yeah, my knee hurts, my shin hurts, my jaw hurts. But, like, this is what we do.
B
And I probably an age and recovery thing as well. Oh, of course, yo, my knee hurt like this five, 10 years ago, and I fought through it and won, but it's not the same knee.
A
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limited time offer and even his response here is kind of sad. Again, I have like a little bit of a soft spot for Connor. I know like reputationally there's all sorts of things going on but even just reading this, it's like this, damn, like my head's gone destroyed. I had no injury injuries going into the fight. I was throwing kicks, planting, jumping throughout the camp as well as backstage before the fight came out of nowhere. I'm beyond dark here. I can only describe it as hell.
C
Damn.
A
Yeah.
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I was so sharp and so ready for this fight. Can't believe what has happened. The talk of me being off while walking into the fight is nonsense. I was calm, ready, and confident. I'm in shock. What has taken place? The devil is literally staring at me right now in front of my face here. I'm not engaged. Engaging will be a church tomorrow. I will overcome.
C
Check on. Check on Garner.
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Oh, absolutely. Check on him. Like, that's a dark.
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Then he's like, very much found God again. Again. It's difficult to know, like, really what's going on, but.
A
And it seemed that he had found it before. And, like. Yeah, I don't know. I have a soft spot for him as well. Like, he reached the pinnacle, the highest of the highest. And I think that, like, he was getting asked questions in his conference. Like, you know, sometimes maybe it feels a little different from your support from Ireland. Like, I don't know, maybe the Irish support for him lessened or whatever. I don't know exactly what the relationship with him in Ireland was, but, like, yeah, you almost, like, you just kind of want to see somebody who's. Who's had it. Then he's down and out and struggling, like, get another chance to live up to that thing that he could possibly be. And maybe it wasn't this time, but you hope he finds a way. Yeah. You know, I mean, what a fucking life this guy's lived. Crazy being on fucking welfare to. Gonna be a double champ. Yeah. Making hundreds of millions of dollars and then squandering the thing that, like, maybe he wanted all the. The whole time, you know, it's like.
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Yeah. Don't he got a case on him, though?
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Damn, you with the Ali got.
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Everybody talks about him so poetically, but.
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Nah, like, no, no, no, because it's because.
C
Looking past that kind of easy.
A
No, no, I don't think it's because I think a lot of times it's not about. Yeah, but, like, maybe I don't think it's about the person as much as, like, you want to know that that's possible.
C
Okay.
A
In life. Life.
C
Okay.
A
You know what I mean? Like, I think sometimes, like, people are representations for what we hope can happen in the world, you know? Like, you're seeing this guy get humbled. Humble. Now, does he still have hundreds of millions of dollars? He's still a yacht in Dubai. He can live. Does he still have a family? He steals all the things. So we're putting this, like, sad story on someone who's like, he's gonna be all right, you know, I mean, like, okay, so he didn't get to come back after five years and then knock out one of the fucking greatest MMA fighters in history and Max Holloway and then have everyone love him again. Yeah, it does seem we wanted to
C
see the Rocky story.
A
Yeah.
B
That's the thing. I don't know if I have a vested interest in Connor as, like, the person, because I don't know this person exactly, but it's sort of in, like, his. His legend as.
A
As a mythical figure. Yeah. You want to see? I'm trying to think of, like, a historical archetype, you know, Like, I want to, like.
B
Like Odysseus type shit.
A
Yeah. You want to see Odysseus get home? Yeah. Like, is he going to be able to get.
B
Get home?
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And who knows what home is? Like, maybe home ain't knocking people out anymore.
B
Yeah.
A
But maybe home is helping people. Maybe home is helping the people in Ireland that were in similar situations as him, you know?
C
Do you think he hangs it up?
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This is the toughest time in any fighter's life. When you get older, in general sports break you. So it's like, he's already broken one leg, now he's the other knee. He's going to recover this, and he's going to put so much stress on the other leg while recovering this that that one's probably going to be weaker. Like, what happens is your body gives up before your brain gives up. And then athletes naturally are so competitive, they don't know what else to do. So they'll find this right here. Never stops thinking you're great. Or maybe it has moments where you're humble but, like, never stops wanting to be great.
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But that's why I have so much respect for Khabib. Like, at the peak of his career, he's like, I'm done.
A
I did it.
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I submit to Allah. I'm going to train these boys to be great fighters. He just, like, taps out.
A
I respect it, man.
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It's like he. He played it perfectly.
C
I respect. He did ayahuasca. We're just enlightened people, man.
A
He got God, bro. He got God.
B
You guys are in the Matrix.
A
But that's. But that's the thing is, like. And Khabib has managed to, like, stay in the spotlight for sure. But I think. But I think what happens a lot of times for guys is, like, you find out what you wanted in this thing in the first place. You know, it's like, if you like the competition of going out there, and just like sparring and stuff. You can do that without the bright shiny lights and all the money, you know, like. And maybe Khabib learned that he didn't need that. Maybe he got enough money. And then maybe he learned that there was joy in other places. Some people learned that they like the shiny lights and this is just the only way they could get get it. And now they have to do this horrible thing for their mind and body so they could get their fix.
B
Yeah.
A
Over here. Which is just the love and adulation of the people.
B
Yeah, I do like the, the Catholic turn. I mean, just posting like the whole creed right here.
C
You would.
B
I support anyone Catholic too, but I
A
think he was on it before.
B
No, I, I, I, I wasn't tracking it, but seeing it here, I'm like, fire. Come on, dude. I confess. One baptism for the forgiveness of sins. Love that. But I mean, you know, McGregor's not doing so good, but at least Mitch McConnell is better than ever, it seems like. Yeah, you've seen these videos going around.
C
He's so funny.
B
He's popping out.
A
Oh, that's fire, bro.
B
I mean, you're telling me this guy's sick, dude. This guy can definitely run the country. He's in a great, he's in great shape.
A
Okay.
B
Look at his wife. His wife is happy.
C
He show them your.
A
Okay.
C
The wildest is though, when he has this whatever health issue. And then she just went to Ch China for man law.
B
Yeah.
A
I mean, her job is done.
C
Okay.
A
Like, she better go back home before they arrest her ass here. Right? Like, yeah, it's a little sketchy times funny, son. They're sketchy.
C
Crazy.
B
She met with like the vice president or something. Think about that. You know what's sick.
A
Go, go, go, go.
C
No, it's just people aren't really putting enough emphasis on that. You're in the hospital and your wife just takes a trip. Son, there's no reason for your wife to take a trip.
B
She's not a doctor. Doctor. They got doctors there. She's got stuff to do. You know,
A
that's crazy. If, if everything wasn't a conspiracy now, like, you know how nobody believes anything. We can't even, like, we, it's just like, I don't even know where the Charlie Kirk trial is right now. Like, I don't even know what's happened. Like, but nothing is real and nothing is fake. We just live in like post, post truth or whatever it is. Right? It is a little bit of a shame because if we still lived in the we believe Everything era, this story and the Lindsey Graham story would have the Internet on fire. I don't even worry about this. So Jimmy Kimmel posted a picture on Instagram of him in the hospital. Yeah. And I DM them like, yo, are you okay? He sent me back a Twitter of Mitch McConnell and I was like, you. The one time, I believe. The one time I believe this, you keep getting going. I still think that's Holland, though. I think Holland knows the Internet. I think, I think, I don't know. Anyway, the point being the. It's like this is an insane story. What they are alleging, what the conspiracy theorists are alleging. The one with Mitch McConnell, like where he actually has died and if he's. His death isn't announced until after the election, then I think they can like just insert anybody that they want in place. Is that the idea?
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If it's announced after mid August, they don't have to do a special election and do the original election that they're planning on doing. He's retiring at the end of this.
A
God. They would do the original. But if they do, if he dies before they would do a special election,
B
then the special election could be screwed up because other people could join.
A
Thomas Massie joins. And that's maybe what they're trying to avoid.
B
Yes, they're trying to.
A
So they're trying to say that he's alive when everybody's like, no, my man is dead. And his wife fled the country.
C
Yeah.
B
And met with like some like high ranking Chinese government people or something like that. I don't know exact details, but like,
A
what world do we live in where this isn't even a crazy story anymore? It's just kind of funny.
C
Yeah.
B
And then like Lindsey Graham goes to
A
fucking Ukraine, visits the drone shop. Visits the drone shop shop, and then gets back in a timeline that according to the Iranian Twitter channel is not possible to get back. And now he's dead and then his
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sister finishes his turn.
A
How the does that work?
B
What?
A
How you get to throw your sister in? Is that allowed?
C
All people are talking about is how gay. Not even that he possibly got taken out by another gun. He gay race.
A
But if I was our government, we had to come and we had to cover up the fact that a foreign country murdered one of our government representatives. I would say, yo say you sucked his dick because now we talking about how you sucked his dick, not the fact that Putin took out one of our.
B
Oh, that's smart.
A
Our senators.
B
And maybe that's why Putin took him
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out because he's gay. Oh, we can't have that shit in Ukraine.
B
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's like, yo, you're getting too close.
A
You're getting too close. We don't do that over here.
B
I'm pretty sure Russia came out. They said, we have no gay people in our country.
A
That was like. That was Iran.
B
No, I think Russia said that, like, five.
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Two little lesbian singing girls.
B
They got them out.
A
They still in here, bro. Get out of here. What was the name of that band? Riot.
C
Think they locked him up.
A
They locked him up. Yeah.
B
And then they had Britney Griner for a little bit, and they were like,
A
get out of here. We'll trade it for. Anyway. We'll trade it for Jonah Hill in that movie or. Or Nicholas Cage or whoever the it was.
B
Yeah, but it is crazy to me. I'm like, these guys are just so old. Like, he's. Regardless of his health. This.
A
Graham was not that old, bro. He's 70 years old.
B
71.
A
71 is not that old, bro.
B
The average age of the Senate, I think, is 64.
C
That's nuts. That's pretty old, dude. That's nuts.
A
Is that that old?
B
That's pretty retire. Yeah.
C
The average.
B
If you fly a plane for Delta, reaches retirement. You fly a plane for. For Delta, they make you quit when you're like, 65. 62, I think, is going down every day. Like, if you were 62 and you. You're locked in doing weights every day. I know this is.
A
I keep hearing people say this about, like, oh, we got to get old people out of the. Whatever. Like old people out of positions of power. Whatever. Term limits.
C
Yeah, but, like, age limits.
A
I don't know, man.
C
I think term limits. I think term limits.
A
Old people are kind of lit because they seen it all.
B
They haven't seen all of it, bro. Mitch McConnell thinks that he's dancing.
A
Mitch McConnell.
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He probably saw the video of him and he was like, I did that.
A
No, I don't think Mitch McConnell's is lit.
B
But he's so old.
A
Yeah, he is old, but, man, he's just 200 years.
C
Like you saw when he's been dead. Like, he should have been out of there after that.
A
No, maybe we should put a limit on. On. On an age. But then if. If the age. Then if life expectancy goes up.
C
Yeah, I don't like the age thing, because some old people. Shark. Bernie is still.
B
Maybe it's some type of quiz.
A
Here's the thing that's interesting. It's like everybody's. If we got to get these old people out of power. And then Warren Buffett, his stock is through the roof, and you invest in his stock, and you never once were like, warren gotta step down.
C
Right?
A
So as long as you're making money off the old people, all of a sudden, old people be in charge of.
C
It's more.
A
I don't like the opinions of this person that happens to be old, Bernie. They're like, they never said Bernie should step down one time, right? They was telling us Biden was alive for four years. They were like, he's not even old. This is ageism.
B
But Bernie knows baseball stats from the 1800s. Yeah.
C
Come on.
B
So that's. That's going to be like, all right, he's pretty good.
A
So maybe it's so. So that's. I guess my point is it's really not about your mental acuity. It's not even about your age. It's just about your opinion.
B
You got to do an Instagram live, and we got to test if you're still locked in, if you can.
A
I can't even do that probably technologically.
B
Exhibit A.
C
You can't podcast no more, son. I got. Yo, hang it up.
B
You thought the Holland video was real. That's what I'm saying, dude.
A
That is real, bro. Tell me it doesn't go with his personality. It perfectly goes with his online personality.
B
That's how they get you. That's how they get you, dude.
C
That's a good video.
B
They got to do some type of test to see if you're still mentally sharp. I don't know exactly what it is.
A
Yes, that. I agree.
C
But then you got the motherfuckers. Trump says, oh, I passed it with flying colors. Perfect score.
B
If he did, then you let him rob. You know, I'm just saying, you got to.
A
Why don't we do term limits like you said? Yeah, why don't we do.
B
For.
A
What is it for House of Representatives, you do, like, four terms. For the Senate, you just do two terms. Because now you're in power for 12 years. That's a lot. That's a lot. And then for.
C
I give them four for the House.
A
Four.
C
Yeah.
A
So now you're at eight years.
C
Yeah, that's.
A
I'm sorry. That's what I meant. Yeah, fuck it. Do six. So now both of you can be in power for 12 total years, and
B
you have to be able to use Uber Eats pretty quick or something. There's got to be some other type of thing where it's like, oh, no, he knows what.
A
How to do it.
B
And he knows how to do not delivery or pickup, you know, like he knows like all the buttons.
A
Yeah, Gotta be some other thing. You gotta be able to call me FaceTime audio without the FaceTime coming on.
B
Oh, that's good, actually. That's really good. That's really hard.
A
Yeah, yeah. Older people have a really tough time that. Yeah, I can't do that. That's impossible. But again, we like our old people that make us feel validated in our opinions. So it's really not about. If it's about age, we got to keep it a buck across. Warren Buffett got to step down. Okay. The McDonald's guy gotta go.
C
We should talk about elected officials.
A
Nah, all old people. If it's about age, you gotta go. Fuck elected officials. Everybody old gotta step down. I don't agree with this personally.
C
Yeah.
A
But I do agree with terminal minutes. But should a 90 year old be able to run? No, I'm trying to figure out a system.
C
Oh, can they run for the first time?
A
What about Buzz Aldrin?
B
No, he's old.
C
Wait, wait, wait, that's.
A
Come on, my man walked on the moon, bro.
C
Come on, Legend.
B
No, you can't let old people do this.
A
They got to have.
B
They got to have a time. And I'm trying to figure out the system that works. And it's very.
A
I don't think you should be able to. I don't think young people should be able to say anything. Well, 35. No, I mean, like, at what age, age should you be about allowed to say things?
B
Oh, talk.
C
Yeah, 25.
A
That's what I'm saying.
B
That's even early. Yeah.
A
Think about it. All this, not all of it, but like a lot of the. That you do. You're like, I can't believe I did that. Like, think about any girl that did a bang bus video or some while she was in college. Like, she not doing that at 30. Yeah.
C
So you can make some mistakes. You got till 25.
B
Yeah, 25 is not bad.
C
But then even then you could talk. We might not take you serious.
B
Yeah. There's an interim period from 25 to like 30.
C
Something.
B
Yeah.
A
30, I think is a good, a good number because 30 reality sets in.
B
Yeah.
A
And you start realizing like, oh, the decisions that you make, you know, definitely are gonna affect the rest of your life. And that's kind of. That's kind of who you need in elected positions of power.
C
Yeah. And it's like if you're 30, you're still doing bang butts.
A
Like, all right, that you love that.
C
That's what it gets.
A
You ever seen them old porn stars? Like, the old ones, that's. You are.
B
Are.
A
You are loyal to the soil, bro. I like seeing them old.
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like seeing like a. Like, I don't know, like a legend in the league. You know what I mean? It's like Vince Carter in his last season. You're like, yo, dude, he's built for this.
A
LeBron loves this game. And he got no reason to be playing. No reason. He got his kid in it, Guaranteed contract. You could go do whatever the you want to do.
C
That's love.
A
He is. He loves it. Yeah, he loves it so much, he's trying to not play with his kid. He got his kid, the guaranteed contract. The lady Lakers guarantee it. The next day, LeBron said, I'm out. I'm not signing up with the Lakers.
C
Speaking of that.
B
Yeah.
C
He decided where he's going yet?
B
No, he has not, because he's waiting on the. The trial for Kawhi to pan out.
C
Trial? What do you mean? Oh, the investigation.
A
Yeah, people are coming.
C
I thought he's in Toronto.
A
Well, Toronto's not going to do it until they figure out all the logistics.
C
Wow. I thought that was a done deal already.
A
Okay, well, I think it was an agreement, but. But I think the NBA won't allow it to go through until they finish their investigation with the Clippers.
C
Damn.
A
Yeah, which is.
C
That's gonna be bad. Cause we know he's. Yeah, that's gonna be bad.
A
Come on, bro.
B
Because if it goes through and they. They let him off, LeBron could take vet minimum and then just get paid through.
A
Let me tell you who's doing vet.
C
Let's say if he does go, where's LeBron gonna go? Cleveland.
A
I mean, he ain't going back to Cleveland.
C
Yeah. So why does the quiet thing have anything to do with the Cleveland thing,
B
in my opinion is only because it looks sick.
A
And if the money.
B
If he can take vet minimum but make money in different ways, then, yeah, he goes back to Cleveland.
A
Why is he. First of all, he's not taking vet minimum. Second of all, why would he go to Cleveland?
B
A legacy player.
A
Yeah, legacy play. That minimum thing is only because he's
B
going to get paid through other.
A
Why is it a legacy play? Explain that.
B
It's where he started. That's where he's from.
A
And he gets back to them.
B
Yeah. He brings the. The chip back and then ends his career with the people that gave him a chance. Where he's from. Where he's born and bred.
C
Yeah. I don't think anybody gonna get a. Except the people in Cleveland.
B
That's what I'm saying. Those are his people.
A
Yeah, but I mean, his people are where he lives. Exactly. Los Angeles, California. You think his wife wants to move back to Cleveland, Ohio?
B
No, she's staying in la.
A
Yeah. So then he definitely ain't going to Cleveland. If. If his wife says.
B
And it's.
A
With all due respect, but if his wife is like, you know what? I'm going to stay here with the kids. You go wherever you need to go. He's going to Miami. He might be going to fucking Ibiza. Does the Beez have a basketball team? You know, there's no way now he's going to Cleveland if wifey's not coming. You're out of your mind.
B
It's just the legacy, bro. It's the legacy.
A
You're going to Paris.
B
I mean, he can't go to the Knicks now, though.
A
No, he can't. We don't want him.
C
We won't take him.
A
We don't want him.
C
If we want to play for free, we won't.
A
We wouldn't even take him.
B
The way Lakers fans have talked about this period is so funny. Just all my LA friends just like, ugh, it's been such a drag.
A
Drag.
B
All my LA friends are like, this period with LeBron has just been, like, hopes and dreams and nothing ever, like, actually manifests.
A
They got a chip. Yeah, they got a little. What's it called? Bubble. Chip.
C
Yeah, it's like a chip.
B
Yeah, it's like a chip and a half.
A
They got a chip where they didn't get to witness it, which does suck.
C
Oh, that does suck.
B
But I would imagine the Knicks won in a bubble. How would you feel?
A
I would feel elated. I would be right outside the bubble, coughing in that.
C
I would have been in the bubble. I would have got inside.
A
God. We would have found a way. Serving chicken nuggets and French fries.
C
Whoever the you want. That I would have been in the boat. Yes, absolutely.
A
I would find a way. I would find a way.
B
I don't know.
A
I feel like you'd be like, all right.
B
We kind of like, in the back of your mind, it'd be like, n.
A
Bro, you really don't understand how long it's.
B
I don't. I truly don't.
A
You don't understand how long?
B
It came home, dude. It came home.
A
He came home.
C
We both said it.
A
Hodio almost got killed.
C
Yeah.
A
Yeah.
B
Put your life on the line.
A
Put our life on the line for that team actually to get what a bird as big.
C
It said scary.
A
I thought they were going to be bigger. If I'm being 100 with you. The game didn't have that many big ones.
C
Barkley really did a number on them. It's up cuz. He gave him a bad rap. And it's not even that bad. But everybody just says, Antonio.
B
Maybe they took the criticism and stuff stride. Oh, maybe the ZP came out and they were like, you know what? Chuck's right.
A
So they had an insecurity. So they're like, we gotta. We gotta make up for this.
B
Think about who's got the shiniest teeth in all of Europe now. You know what I'm saying is the English, bro, like every time you see it is.
C
I didn't know this.
B
They all get the big shiny chompers, dude.
A
For centuries they were known for having the worst teeth.
B
We call them snaggle teeth. Angler fish.
A
Like.
B
Yeah. And then all of a sudden they get, you know, 10 grand. They're like, I'm getting giant.
C
But why are they getting the bad ones?
A
Why?
B
Because they doing the bad ones. They're getting the big ones.
A
The flattest girls get the biggest tits. Yeah.
C
Ah. So I'm like, yo, I'm good now.
A
Look at me. My teeth.
B
You want the natural off white or do you want the shiny? Yeah, they go, give me shiny, bro. Give me the shiny.
C
I haven't even seen that, but I
A
guess that's a thing.
C
Oh yeah.
A
I don't even know if they. They don't even put the separations of the teeth. Sometimes it just looks like they're wearing like a mouthpiece.
B
Two teeth put in.
A
Yeah, that's it.
B
Two curvy little teeth. Bang. Never floss again. They should go to.
C
I think Turkey is doing that right? They do.
A
Turkey really is upgrading everyone. Isn't that kind of interesting? Like you go get your hair done. Yo. Is it. Can I just ask this question with this? No disrespect to Turkey, but. But why do they want to make men so handsome? Like they. They built their whole economy around making guys hotter. Yeah. Like you don't go to Turkey to get new tits or. Or an ass or like do liposuction. Turkey's like, come here, brother. We'll make you so hot and handsome. There is a little something gay about that.
C
A little bit.
A
A little bit. They need to.
B
They brought the over average of men up at least two points.
A
But for whose game?
C
Yeah, imagine.
A
Yeah.
C
You want A turkey, but lift. Or a Brazilian butler.
A
You're 100. Right, but what I'm saying is that, like, I would never even think of going to Brazil for veneers. I know. If I want to be hotter as a man for cheaper prey. They making men hot for nothing. It's like they losing money.
B
Yeah. You know what I mean?
A
Like, they're like, yo, will. Will lose. We just need you to be hot.
B
They can't.
A
They can't wait to make you hot.
B
Yeah.
A
They need guys to be sexy.
B
We'll put you in a hotel, we'll fly you out, put you in a resort, the whole deal. And it's like, two grand. It's crazy.
A
What is that saying about, like, I don't. I. I honestly. I'm trying to not be disrespectful over here, but, like, why are they so obsessed with making all the men on the planet look good?
B
Yeah. Well, I'm. Is Turkey. Are they. Are they in burka? Are the women covered?
A
No. Turkey is a secular nation, but it's still a little.
B
I guess it's like, monarchical, right?
A
Yeah. I mean, well, I'm not.
B
But, like, the elections are not always.
A
That's a fair country. Mark.
C
I know what you.
A
What are you trying to say?
B
I don't know all the details. I just know it's completely fair country. Some comedians get thrown in jail. I don't know. I'm seeing so many getting thrown in jail.
A
What are you talking about, bro? They're going to do a comedy festival. Shut the up, okay? We're going to go there for fake teeth. You know, we're going to go. We're going to get paid in fake teeth and hair transplants. You don't fucking need it. So you don't have to say no. It's. Yeah. You know, of course. Yeah. Erdogan is a. Probably a dictator.
B
Maybe. I don't know all the details, but I'm curious what his. What his incentive is make everyone so hot. It's a good export, you know? Like, I don't want to. I don't want to invade Turkey. I don't want anything to happen to them. Maybe they're giving themselves some insulation to, like, hey, you really want to fuck with us? Where are you going to get all your hot guys from? Forever? You know, it's like, they're kind of, you know, strategic. Yeah. Kind of smart.
A
It is. I mean, it is kind of smart, but it is crazy that there's not one other country on the planet that is dedicated to Making guys hot.
B
They don't even want you to get fat. Like, they try to give you ice cream and they take it away.
A
You notice that they won't let you get. Do they ever do that to the women? No, but the second a guy is trying to look not hot, even a little bit, they sneak that ice cream.
B
Think about it. You want this ice cream? And he goes, I want it. And he goes, nope, nope.
A
No, you don't give me my shit.
B
Here's a napkin. Yeah, I don't want a napkin.
A
I want the ice cream.
B
And they never give it to them.
A
Never give it to them. Maybe you get a cone. If you're lucky, you get just the cone. Yeah, but the ice cream, that's way too many calories for you. Yeah, I'll listen. I think Turkey. Yeah, I think it's Turkey.
B
And they're rebranding the name because they're like, yo, we don't want to be compared to this fat bird. That's the whole thing. Like, we're not Turkey. We're Turkey.
A
Yeah, Turkey. Yeah, Turkey.
C
Oh, really?
A
Yeah, Turkey.
B
All the World cup announcers are.
A
Yeah, three.
B
Turkey. They officially have to call that.
C
Hearing that, and I was like, am I mishearing this?
A
Okay, guys, I think we're onto something. We need to ask Erdogan what's up. Yeah, because he's. He's. If there was a country that you would think, based on their exports and their economy, was a homosexual nation, it would be France, right?
C
Like, without.
A
Without a doubt, it would be the French. They would be.
B
There's gayer countries. There's care.
A
Is there a gayer country than France? Yeah, but what I would say is France has outsourced. They're making guys hot enough to suck up their a lot. Right? So it's like, France is like, our economy can no longer support that. Right. We have to put all our money in football and making trans women for Mbappe to devour. Right? That's what we have to do. But. But in terms, we have to find an outsourcing. We needed a place to make our sneakers and our clothing. Right? We found China. We found a. They did that. France needs a place to make guys in Europe hot so they could have sexual intercourse with them. They were sick and tired of looking through the fucking holes in a British guy's mouth, and they're like, there's no way I could put my dick in there. So they found a place that could do it for cheap.
B
You don't think Thailand is a little gayer?
C
No.
A
I honestly, if I'm being honest with you, they're ladies. Yes, I know. I'm being honest with you. You got to be a man first to be gay. And I don't know if they get there.
B
It's just boys to women. Yeah, that's what you're saying.
C
Gay people don't go to Thailand. It's only straight dudes that go to Thailand.
A
That's a good point. If you're a gay guy, why would you try to with the most girly looking man? Yeah, that's the least gay you could be. They running from that.
B
It's not the least gay. To me.
A
That's the least gay.
B
That's not the least gay.
A
It's the least gay.
B
Gay. No, that's not the least.
A
It's the least gay. Gay.
B
It's the least gay.
C
Gay.
A
Yeah, yeah. That's what I thought we were talking about in the spectrum of gay. Right? Having sex with a Thai lady. Boy, I wouldn't even, I'd say that's. I don't even know if that's gay. Okay.
B
Okay. But it's not perfectly straight.
C
It's, you know, it's more straight than gay.
A
Let me ask you this question. Let me ask way more. It's way more straight than you know. Them fish that can kind of fly for a little bit, are they a bird? You know, I mean, like. No, no one would call them fish are birds.
B
No.
A
Them a bird. Not one time you'd be like, wow, those fish can jump out the water
B
for a little bit.
A
But then they get back to fishing.
C
Yeah.
A
Yeah, that's it. That's Thailand. I don't even know if this metaphor works. You might have made my point, but
B
I get what you're saying.
A
No, but it makes sense. It makes sense. I think you're kind of straight. I think if you're going to Thailand to hook up with a lady boy, I, I think you're straight in the way that a fish can fly for a little. A little bit. Is still a fish.
B
Still a fish.
A
When the fish is flying, you're like, is that mother straight? I don't know. Know if that's great. But then back in. But then b. Exactly. Yeah.
B
You don't think America's gayer? You got probably the most gays.
A
Yeah, that's what makes us straight.
B
How does it make us straight?
A
The country with the most gays is the straightest country.
B
Wait, what?
A
Because they can be gay.
B
Oh, we're the most secure. So we're like, yeah, be gay. Doesn't affect us because we're super straight.
A
Exactly. Europe is the gayest country because the gays got to pretend to be normal. Yeah, yeah. When you meet a gay in Europe, they have no accent change. We allow the gays to be so gay that they have their own accent. They can. They can indulge in who they truly want to be and their identity. You meet a gay in Britain, you meet a gay in fucking Luxembourg. They just sound like a guy from there. What the fuck is the point? What is the point of that?
C
And that's why the French sound the way they do, because they're just all gay. They just all gay. That's not an accent.
A
It's not an accent at all. It's by design.
B
And so France couldn't make the gays themselves, so they were like, who can do it?
A
No. France wanted the gays to be even hot. France is about aesthetic and experience and pleasure. Everything touches a pleasure center. What smells the best, what tastes the best, what feels the best? Who's the hottest? Okay, we're done fucking ourselves. All the Muslims we bring in, we can't fuck them, right? Oopsie daisy. They have a religion that doesn't allow us to gay em up. We gotta go north. The British come in, it's a jack o' lantern. You sticking your dick in a pumpkin's mouth that was carved for Halloween. Are you gonna do that?
C
Come on, man.
A
Genuinely speaking.
B
No, no, you can't do that.
A
We've gotta see the Tyson Fury fight. This way.
B
Oh, goodness.
A
Yeah, yeah, Tyson's fine.
C
You know, he might get nicked on a cricket too, for something. I can't. Yeah, it needs to be smooth porcelain.
B
So you reach out to Turkey, you
A
say, hey, I don't even know if you got to reach out. I think Turkey's like, we want hot guys.
C
But why?
A
Do you know one? No, they're. They're, they're a gay factory. They're a factory for gays.
C
What about the Lebanese?
A
What about them?
C
Aren't they the gay Muslims?
A
I think they just say that about them because they're kind of accepting of other religions.
B
Oh, no.
A
And is that why?
B
Yeah, but also, who went into Lebanon and taught him a bunch of words? French?
C
Oh, see? Come on, man.
A
Come on, man. Yo, pick your colonizer. Yo, pick your colonizer, bro.
C
Oh, man.
B
Yeah, it's a good point.
C
It's honestly rock solid French just went around just gaying everybody up.
A
If I was Turkey and I wanted to throw the scent off the gay trail, I would definitely start Doing some things to make women hotter too. That's all I'm trying to say. Do some things to make the women hotter too. That's. Those same surgeries can apply to women. Where do women go for to be hotter?
B
Brazil.
A
That's the cheaper place to go. Colombia.
B
Colombia. Colombia, yeah, Colombia.
A
And if I'm being honest, you go to the place that has the most attractive looking women.
C
Yeah.
A
So does Turkey have the most attractive looking women? Men. Is that why men are going there? Are they going, I want to have a hairline like a Turkish guy. I want to have teeth like a Turk. Is this a compliment to the Ottomans? Selective breeding over hundreds and hundreds of years has produced the most handsome men.
C
That's interesting.
B
That's not a bad point.
A
There's a picture handsome in of that Ottoman princess. I'm pretty sure you can bring it up. And this is what the most attractive woman in the Ottoman Empire looks look like. We could probably get an image of it.
B
Yeah, this is. She's been touted at least as the most beautiful princess.
A
Yeah, you're actually nowhere close in that image right there. But you gotta find it.
B
Yeah, I'm gonna find it, but while I pull this up. You really think this guy's gay? Louis XIV.
A
Was that the 14th?
B
I think so.
A
Who was the Sun King?
B
I think it was him.
A
I don't remember because I thought he had golden hair or whatever. They would pay to watch him. Shit. Really at a hustle, bro.
C
Really?
A
Yeah. He would just take a dump and just sit and watch him in his bedroom. People come from all around the world
B
and they also came all around the world to court this woman right here.
C
Oh, yeah.
A
Fm that was a. Oh, no. Oh, this is Persia.
B
The Princess of Persia, I think.
A
Whoopsie.
B
But she might have been Ottoman also. I'm not, man.
A
Keep that straight closed, bro. Keep that closed. What we trying to let out of there, man? That's insane there. That's absolute insanity. Maybe we just don't get it, you
B
know, Maybe there's something that we just don't understand.
C
I see why they went gay,
A
bro. Look at that thing. Is this a painting or a picture?
B
I think it's a photograph.
A
At least with the paintings you could spruce them up a little bit, you know? But photographs back in the day are that is that, is it. Good Lord. Yeah, I, I, I'm trying to figure
B
out exactly where she's from, but I'm assuming this is her again.
A
That's got to be her, right?
C
That's rough.
A
You got to see the black and
B
white picture of it. So I'll pull it up.
A
Get it up, Miles.
B
Text up tomorrow.
A
Get it up, Miles.
B
Wow. Yeah. Apparently people were persons.
C
Be not nice. This is.
A
Yeah, yeah, that was.
C
It must have been some inbreeding with this one.
A
Oh, man. Who knows something?
C
Wow.
B
Yeah. She was married to an aristocrat and the son of a defense minister. He divorced her and she divorced her husband, Breaking a taboo of becoming the first woman in the royal family to get a divorce.
C
Nah, she was a man.
A
What you mean?
C
Just. It just has to.
A
What you mean?
B
What you mean?
C
You can't be the first to do that. That was a man, bro.
B
She tricked him.
C
Maybe hermaphrodite.
A
There's no way.
B
In 1960, mustaches on women were a symbol of beauty. Princess Fatima Kanum estimate Al Dawley was the princess of Persia.
C
This is fa.
A
Bro. So much like him.
B
Like, come on.
A
It looks so much.
C
I love you, but go back.
A
You. Can you make that the whole screen? Go back a little bit. Goodness gracious, dude.
C
Nah.
B
Why did Disney never make this movie?
C
Nah, this is. This is the Olympic boxer that got both the. Both the XY's and all that.
A
Zoom in and go down.
C
Crazy, bro.
A
Go up, up, go up, go up. Let's just look at that head for a second. That's crazy. There's no way.
B
Maybe she was funny.
C
Nah, this is the first trance. First trance.
A
Brother. That is a thick mustache.
C
I know. This is a.
A
That mustache.
C
Put the thing on. It's like, yo, I identify as a woman sometimes.
A
You just gotta forget parts of your history, man. You don't gotta, like, you don't gotta put everything in the box book. You know what I mean? Like, we don't know what Abe Lincoln's wife look like.
C
Yeah, we don't.
A
You know, we know the hot wives. Yeah, but we don't got to know every president's wife. Yeah, that one right there. You just gotta push that to the side. Goodness gracious. Bro.
B
Don't.
A
Right?
C
I really don't read.
B
I'm reading now. I'm reading about her now.
C
I don't think as a woman. I really don't. I don't think it's. I don't think it's possible she learned
B
piano and embroidery from a French tutor.
A
When did she open halal? Guys, that's what I need to know. Because that guy has put the white sauce hot sauce on for me for the last 20 years of my life. Look at that thing.
B
And beauty standards change. Hopefully it's AI.
A
Hopefully you know, we're. She looked like Matilda's dad, Danny DeVito. Bring up Danny DeVito and Matilda. Oh, no, it's.
B
It. In her book, this woman describes how men and. And women in 19th century Persia ascribed a certain standard of beauty. Women prize their thick eyebrows and the hair above their lip to such an extent that sometimes they painted them on with mascara.
C
Nah, they are gay. They even wanted they women to look like men is crazy.
B
Look, dude, things change, you know? Yeah.
C
Jesus.
B
I keep staring.
A
I can't stop. We gotta stop this podcast. We gotta end the podcast.
B
Okay, let's.
A
Anything else?
B
This was. Wait, what'd you have? Miles, just before we go. Al's a big fat phony and was here watching the game, and his story makes it look like he was watching
C
it in the streets of New York City.
A
And he wasn't.
B
He was here in the studio. So I just want to bring that up.
A
So wait a minute.
B
What did he say?
C
Go. Because I wanted to watch it with my girl and y' all wanted to have some long debrief shit back there. And so. Al is such a fucking quirk. The post where I was supposed to be.
A
So you posted like you were in Spain?
C
Nah, but it's celebration for my team.
A
Hold on. This is.
C
No, not Spain. Mother Gaia.
A
And we're like, she's up the block.
C
I think I'm in the streets right now.
B
It's not even loading for me.
A
I look myself.
B
It's not even loaded for me.
A
I look myself.
C
That's the universe. That's God right there.
B
That's something. I don't know what that is. Yeah, dude. Yeah. Do you have it?
A
No, I gotta bring it up right now.
C
That's fire, bro.
B
Also, shout out to Miles just for being an all time hater. I'm not letting you get away with this.
C
I know. Come on, we celebrating.
A
It's the streets of New York. Oh, hell no.
B
Yeah. We don't even know if you're in San Antonio now. We don't know if you. When did you. When did you go to this?
C
No, it's my girl there. That's what I wanted to go to. And y' all was like, oh, we got to record.
A
We got to just repost her.
B
Yeah. Why did you.
C
She didn't post it. And I'm like, oh, she did. Yeah.
A
So you were like, yo, just send me a.
C
We were texting the whole time, and every time we scored, she sent me some shit.
A
Oh, wow, man.
C
I am celebrating, right? Y' all just haters because Your team's lost. My team won. I like to celebrate.
A
My team's still in it.
C
Who's your team?
A
Spain. I'm up for this on the. Okay.
C
There you go.
B
Yeah. This guy lived in Spain for a long time. That is true. Yeah. He lived in Spain for a while.
C
Yeah. Rep your set.
A
I do. Rep it.
C
Where's your colors? You're looking kind of French right now.
A
It's coming home. Oh, no, I don't want that. Do we have anything else we need to hit, my boy?
B
There was a. A famous incident that happened out in one of the national parks that went super viral.
C
Oh, I saw this.
B
I'm not sure the current state of this dude. Have. Did you see this?
A
Yeah, I saw it.
B
I'm not sure. I'm not sure the state of him right now.
A
Did he make it?
B
I think so.
A
Oh, if he's alive, we're good.
B
I think he's good.
C
If he's dead, we good.
B
It's a learning.
C
It's a learning lesson.
A
It wasn't their fault.
C
Grandfather came over to with it.
A
No, he did.
C
No, no, no, no.
B
You got to watch it. You got to watch.
C
Guys, he's all the way in the background right there. So how did. How is it not his fault?
A
Look at the buffalo. It's by a picnic. The buffalo shouldn't be there.
B
This guy's standing right here.
C
That's his picnic.
B
That's.
A
He's walking by it.
C
He's not camping. He's walking by.
B
He's got suspenders.
C
He's a jolly guy walking towards the buffalo.
A
He's not. The buffalo chases them and chases around the tree. It's like a cartoon.
B
He's walking away, getting behind a tree for cover because he's like, oh, this is a little sketchy right?
A
Now Watch. Watch this. It's a cartoon. Literally, watch. He sees it. This is up.
B
But, like, all of a sudden, comes over, goes, oh, shit. All right, let's. Let's get behind this tree.
C
Oh, I thought it was.
A
See, no, watch, watch. So he. Hold on.
B
He needs to. Hiding. He's hiding. And. And he's good, right? Like, there's no way this bison's going to get him.
C
Z, you didn't ask him permission to take a picture.
A
He ran. He runs. The bison follows him. He runs. He's trying to run around. N, bro.
B
But he's doing right. He's doing all right, right, Miles? Yeah, he's on.
C
He's in recovery.
B
He's on recovery.
C
This is like, you know, running with the Bulls. It's Spain.
B
American version.
C
We do bison.
A
Dope, son, are you going to do that running the.
C
No, I think they stopped.
B
Video from inside.
A
They didn't stop it.
C
I think they did. Or maybe they. I don't know. I think they stopped. Or they stopped the.
A
Yeah, they. Maybe they stopped killing them.
C
They're killing them. Yeah. Yeah.
A
But the run of the bulls is. Is lit.
C
I would love to do that.
A
I went to it.
C
You did?
A
Yeah.
C
Oh, but you didn't get in.
A
Nah, I was too. To close. Tired. You party all night and then in the morning, oh, they. They run and you're like, I was partying all night and, like, were you
C
there for the summer solstice when they do, like, some big celebration in the streets?
A
I don't remember, bro. It's crazy.
C
Was crazy. Like, they have bonfires in the middle of streets everywhere. People are fireworks everywhere. Every other block is like a concert going on. But it's like the fact that a calm city allows giant bonfires in the middle of the street. Crazy is madness. It looked like a war zone.
A
Yeah.
B
Everybody's just like, this is the last video I want to show you guys. This one popped back up. I sent this to you a while ago.
A
It's maybe the funniest thing we already watched this year.
B
Did we already watch it?
C
I don't think so.
A
Oh, come on. There's no way. There's no way, so. There's no way.
B
So he's trying to jump the fence. He got it, though. He good. He got it. Oh, he's got his pants caught on a little bit.
A
All right.
B
He's struggling a little bit. He should be able to get it.
A
He's running out of energy. Right.
B
He's pretty high up, too. And he's doing a dip. This is kind of hard.
A
His pants.
B
That's.
A
That's tough. There's no way. There's no way. There's no way. There's no way. What happened?
B
No one knows.
A
Oh, no.
B
And shout out to his boy for
A
never stepping into hell, that.
B
I mean, all time. Great video. I mean, at a certain point, like, I don't know, when you ditch the pants, like, right here, you're like, oh, I can save it. There you go. All right. My pants are fully coming off. And then here is worst case scenario.
A
Go.
B
I mean, just dangling upside down. Oh, God bless us, man.
C
Oh, man, that's great, boys.
A
We love you. We appreciate you. We'll see you next week. Peace. Peace.
Date: July 15, 2026
Hosts: Andrew Schulz (A), AlexxMedia (C), Mark Gagnon (B)
Theme: World Cup chaos, unfiltered soccer takes, Ayahuasca misadventures, and wild life reflections—this episode is the classic, unapologetically comedic Flagrant hang.
An epic, laughter-filled breakdown of the week’s biggest events: England’s Cinderella run to (potential) World Cup victory, conspiracy-fueled soccer banter, and Alex’s sketchy but enlightening "Temu Ayahuasca" journey in New Jersey. The Flagrant crew unpacks football drama, explores substance-induced insights, and takes wild detours—politics, surgery tourism, aging, and gayness-by-country are all on the table.
[00:00–24:00]
[37:37–56:56]
[56:57–72:41]
[24:12–36:13]
[88:00–97:30]
[103:03–113:23]
[120:43–end]
| Segment | Timestamp | |------------------------------------------|--------------| | World Cup (France-England-Argentina) | 00:00–24:00 | | Ayahuasca Journey (AlexxMedia) | 37:37–56:56 | | NBA Comparisons & Messi vs. Ronaldo | 24:12–36:13 | | Parenting, FOMO & Life Choices | 56:57–72:41 | | McGregor Loss & Fighter Mindsets | 74:02–87:40 | | Aging, Politics, and Term Limits | 88:00–97:30 | | Cosmetic Surgery/Hot Guys/Turkey | 103:03–113:23| | Animal Attack & Viral Videos | 120:43–End |
Unfiltered, rambunctious, and untamed. Explicit language, hard-hitting punchlines, and zero sacred cows. The style swings from absurd to heartfelt, with insightful moments on parenting and self-growth punctuating the otherwise relentless “flagrancy.”
If you want a mix of brash soccer analysis, psychedelic revelations, and off-the-rails cultural commentary, this one hits every mark. The Flagrant crew is in rare form: roasting World Cup teams, exploring consciousness with dubious Amazonian brews, and skewering everything from American politics to dental tourism—never missing an opportunity for a joke, a wild analogy, or a left-field philosophy drop.
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Episode Motto:
"It's not about the person…it's about what we hope can happen in the world."