Knicks WIN The East & Chelsea Handler Takes SHOTS

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What's up, everybody? Welcome to Flagrance. And today we are. Today we are feeling optimistic. Today we are feeling good. The New York Knicks have advanced after 27 years to the NBA Finals. Let's go, let's go, let's go. Big, big, big applause. We got our boy Nate Jackson here, who came to celebrate the Knicks victory. He's in Herald Square driving by. You guys probably know him from his comedy, you see, maybe his Netflix special you've seen him online for. But even Nate, a person from the west coast, wanted to feel greatness in this city. He booked his shows at the Brooklyn Improv. He did two weekends in a row to make sure that he could be here just in case. The Knicks extended past four games, but they swept, obviously.

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It's what we do in the playoffs now.

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So, Nate, thank you so much for your contribution to New York's Knicks lore.

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I think I'm the reason you guys won, just because you needed somebody who missed basketball as much as me to be in the city. So that felt that. Energy buckets. You know what I mean?

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Yeah.

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I. I don't know if this is good for the city or bad. Obviously, it's, like, good because you needed a win, but, like, you guys don't know how to act. Like, this is ridiculous.

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Yeah, yeah. We're united, man.

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This is.

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This feels like 9 12.

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You're united in. That's hilarious. You're united in anarchy, though. Like, they are literally. Like, there's. I saw a grandma crowd surfing. Like, it's.

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Yeah, yeah.

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It's pandemonium.

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People think New Yorkers are relaxed. I don't know why. We've never been relaxed.

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That's never. Nobody has ever been. Like, let's talk about New Yorkers.

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People think that we're just vibing and cooling weed.

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That's us.

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Is that you guys?

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You guys are wound up. What's up, y'?

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All?

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What's up? It's Brick out here, yo. Brick out here, yo. What's up, son? Oh, my God, son. Look at that. Wow.

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But you usually just see us angry and disappointed, right? You guys are loud, but we're loud and positive.

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No, no.

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You didn't see positivity oozing in the streets right now.

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It's not positive or negative. The normal New York that I know is just, like, loud, and then it's not. They're like, peanut butter, salt, pepper. My girl left me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, it's not sanity. That's insanity.

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Yeah, we're insane people. You gotta be insane people. We're Passionate people.

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Yeah. Yeah. You got Pa. You know what we got? We got.

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I mean, people are just going crazy.

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There's a million in these videos.

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Yeah.

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And that's his inside voice.

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Did you.

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That's what I'm saying. And that's the women.

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Yeah.

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That's ridiculous.

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But doesn't it remind you when you had a basketball team?

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Yes. Go Sonics. We're back. They gave. They approved the two expansion teams, so Seattle Sonics will be back.

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Are they gonna name them the Sonics?

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Yeah, we kept our name.

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Really?

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Yeah. That's why Oklahoma's the. What are they called?

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Don't hate. Don't hate them.

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Don't hate now.

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Don't hate now. He's salty.

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So we kept our name and brand, and then Vegas is the other expansion that they.

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An NBA team in Vegas is just bad news, bro.

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I mean, that's what we said about hockey, and it did that.

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Hockey, I'm not worried about because they're gonna drink anywhere.

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But they. The Oakland A's are. I mean, they're the Vegas Athletics now.

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Yeah.

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They're gonna have every sport.

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Yeah. It's just gonna be bad. Like, NBA players know how to actually party, and people know who they are. Baseball players, nobody really knows who they are. Hockey players, nobody really knows who they are.

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Well, the baseball players don't speak English, so they don't kick it how we kick it. How do they kick it at Latin night?

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Little carne asada.

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Yeah. Little rooftop.

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Yeah.

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Still wearing. So.

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You would never complain about your hotel ten years ago, Nate.

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I wouldn't?

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No.

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Absolutely. Would always been bougie. That's not a bougie complaint. I've been there for 11 days. By the time you hear, you can tell what shoes they got on. Like, I'm on the 10th floor of the rooftops. The 11th. No, I was cool for five days of it.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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You just caught me on the back half of, like, really? On a Sunday? It's Memorial Day weekend.

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Yeah.

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They've been kicking it extra.

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But 15 years ago, when you're on the road and you're at some comedy club and you're at, like, a motel for the weekend, you're not even worried about the sounds that are coming out of the rooms next to you right now. You're at a different level of success where Latinos can't be stomping on your roof.

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Oh, they had a black night, a white night, a Latin night.

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But what was the loudest?

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Oh, Asian night. Really? Yeah. Did you hear them run and Then it'd be quiet for a second, and then it'd be real loud.

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So I think they.

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I don't know. Is that a kick?

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They got wooden sandals.

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That's why is extremely clicky to go, Pete. The Asian night.

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You got it.

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You got. At least.

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I didn't go there at all. Any night, really. Yeah. But they do go way longer than west coast parties, because we were. We're right by, like, two at the latest. Yeah, they're winding down at four. Yeah, yeah, we're for.

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We're 4:00am and then they had it.

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They had day parties, too. So it will go from like that brunch, like 11am all the way until 4 in the morning.

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This is a real. It's a real city. We have real drugs, bro. It's not. We don't, like, smoke weed.

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Y' all all. Yeah, you guys are out here.

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It comes here first.

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And that's what's in these videos. I see drug abuse. A little bit of mental. Just a little bit. Yes, A little bit.

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You know, this is patriotism. I mean, this is beautiful.

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Look at that.

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That's an epic shot.

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America.

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That's America's team, right?

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What is on the flag? Something's on there.

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That's not. We don't got to worry about.

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Oh, yeah.

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Let's not make a political statement city. We're coming together.

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There's something on that flag.

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Something on that flag. We want to talk back to blue.

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It's only flag he had at his house. He had to bring. You know, you can't always plan.

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Nah, it's amazing to see. Al, how you feeling, man?

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I really feel this is a win

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for America right here. Yeah, it is a win for America.

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This is a win for America. Why do you feel like that?

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Because, like, New York is America. Like, all the other states are just like, you know, y' all there. But this is, you know. You know what it is.

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If New York is.

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What it is.

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If New York is up, the country's up.

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Yeah, Okay.

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I mean, this is crazy. This guy just crowd surfing on the street.

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That's insanity.

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Come on.

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There's somebody in that car trying to leave. They honked, and this is what the response was.

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And this is just the Eastern Conference fight. You know, if we win the finals, they really got to shut down the city.

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I saw that. I literally.

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My car.

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My car was.

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You went by that bus.

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Literally. So we were about to leave and make a left out of there, and they were sending the barricades up, right? I was like, we can't go left. Like, they made us go straight. And they're everywhere. That bus driver in that Prevost bus was turned. He was up in the window, hung up. The reason that they were looking up. And then when. When the clock expired at the game, like, all the cops were like, whoa,

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whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

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Like, hitting them. So the whole street was crazy. Like, this is. This is a problem, you guys. Like this. If this is your control. Yeah, yeah, this is. This is crazy.

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They're going to have to do. You know, when he, like, blew up all the bridges in Batman. That's the only way you're going to stop pandemonium in New York. If the Knicks.

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They're going to tear down the statue of Libert. Yeah, they're gonna tear up. What's it, Moynihan? They're tearing that up.

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Where did you watch the game?

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Outside my house.

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And what was the emotional breakdown? Quarter by quarter.

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I mean, it was a blowout by half, so it was really just like, don't it up.

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They won by, like, 40.

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Yeah, it was crazy, I know, but the.

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The paranoia of New Yorkers.

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I didn't answer the group chat until there was three minutes left in the fourth.

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A lot of people.

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Three minutes left.

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Like, don't talk to me about it, because they've torn my heart out many times. Literally, my hands were doing that.

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Dan Soder is at the Cellar telling me. He's like, yeah, you guys are up 20. And I'm like, dan, don't do this.

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Right?

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Do not ruin this right now. Everything is okay. Everything is okay right now. So, yeah, I'm absolutely terrified. I'm still terrified. I'm putting on, like, fake bravado.

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Who's on the other side, then?

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What do you mean?

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Aren't they still playing?

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Yeah, they are.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. Okay.

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Right now, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Where does Kalshee have the Western Conference, like, odds. Can you pull that up?

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They still got okc up.

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Yeah, okc is at 61. San Antonio 40.

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Yeah, I think. I don't know why. I think San Antonio got it.

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So it's either the Alien or the refs.

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Or the refs. So here's the thing about, like, if OKC play, and you probably got animosity for OKC because they used to be the Sonics and they left your ass.

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I have just nothing for them.

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You feel nothing?

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Nothing. Not at all.

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Not at all.

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There's not a little nostalgia play. There's not. Like, that used to be my franchise and they yanked it away from Course, there's nostalgia.

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There's nostalgia.

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Yeah.

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They brought. They had. They had a Durant game and they just like. Whatever team Kevin was on at the time, they came back and played in Seattle and it was just like. It was like we were back. Yeah, it was just to watch Kevin Durant.

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You know what is kind of crazy is like, great sports city, Seattle. To lose the franchise is the most peculiar.

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Unannounced.

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I just don't understand.

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We didn't even know they were for sale. It was like July 2, 2008, and kids were trying to get into the arena and they just put. Somebody just came up and taped a lined piece of paper. College ruled piece of paper. They're now in Oklahoma City.

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Yeah. Wow. Dirty.

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Go Thunder dirty. Wow.

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Apparently, that was the Starbucks guy, Howard Schultz.

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He did what? He sold it.

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According to Chat GPT, it says he owned the Sonics. The team was losing.

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Put that on me now.

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And wanted a major renaissance.

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Billionaires.

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Now, he might have had a T, but he might add a T. It sounded. How'd you say his name? Howard what?

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Schultz.

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I don't hear the T pronounced man.

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Too much tea in that. Fuck that guy. Fuck Starbucks.

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So in order to upgrade the arena, he tried to do this whole thing, but officials didn't want to give him a deal. So in 2006, he sold the team to OKC led by Clay Bennett.

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This. Can someone explain this shit to me? Why is it that we always have to pay for the arena to get upgraded, but we don't own the team?

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I don't know, but Green Bay owns their team and I'm jealous sometimes.

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Yeah. Yeah. But that's the only way they're going to have a team there. Yeah, because if it was one guy that owned that team, that team would be in Vegas already.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That's for sure.

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The only way you could keep a team in Green Bay, Wisconsin is if every single person in that town owned a piece of that team.

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I haven't had a good time in Green Bay.

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You've done shows.

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Yeah, I've been out there. I haven't had a good time yet.

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Why?

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I don't know. It's just like. It's not my speed. I feel like everybody's got the N word on the tip of their tongue.

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Where else do you put it? What part of your tongue? What tongue? What part of your tongue do you place.

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I got a tip for you. I just want to say real bad.

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Speaking of. What do you. What do you think of the roast?

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I was there, man. I thought, first of all, I don't think anybody saw how easy it is to just get caught up in the moment, because it was like a comedy Super Bowl.

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Yeah.

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And a lot of wild was getting said. But you're like, hey, you're eating a charcuterie board off a table and there's a camera in your face.

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You know what I mean? Oh, did they catch you laughing at some crazy.

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I was on the live feed. I was in it like, seven times, according to my nieces. And then in what ended up staying on, I guess I was in three or four times. Really? So they were like, did they get.

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Did you get shit for laughing at stuff? That is a. No, no, no, no.

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I didn't get shit for laughing. They shot, I think, one of my big ones. Like, I, like, was cracking up hard, and they caught me. But it was when Katt Williams said something about cat, but it was like. And people gotta understand, like, what people are. Cause if anyone's seen it, you've seen that. There's been, like. I don't know if you call it hate or a little backlash. There's been some backlash, yeah. But this thing was three hours long. And so if you took the time it took to say every word that pissed people off or whatever, it's like they're mad about 50 seconds of content out of the whole thing. But I said that on When Charlamagne asked me on the Breakfast Club. But I'm like, I feel like Hinchcliffe had it. He didn't need that last joke. Yeah, he had it.

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He had every household he was crushing.

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He had every household he had five times the last per minute than anyone else that went. It was nuts. He had notes. So he was going teleprompter from his mind, from his notes. Like, he was like, joke, joke, joke, joke, joke, joke. And then at the end, he says to George Floyd thing. I literally was like. I turned to Deon Cole. I was like, he ain't had to do that. He had. He had the country. He had everyone. And then he was like. And by the way, tear it back in half. He had everyone.

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So you think there was nothing else that he said? You think that he would have been just unanimous, Best part of the roast.

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If he didn't go there. We might be nitpicking over something else, he said, but it wouldn't have been something that is so blatantly like, both sides. Like, yeah, he might have loved.

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Yeah.

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You know what I'm saying?

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Yeah.

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It had been easy to be like, you're tripping. Funny's funny. Like. Like some of that stuff was like, damn. On paper. Yeah. That ain't that funny.

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Yeah.

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Even with delivery, you know what I mean? But it wasn't necessary to say, you know, I mean, look at how hard he. He went so hard. He just lobbed Cheryl his second career, you know what I'm saying?

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Like, she's back.

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She got a bunch of Netflix special.

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She killed it.

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Absolutely. And she's a. She's a beast.

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She's been a talented for decades, man. That's exactly like I was a kid watching Chery both. Yeah.

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So that's what I'm saying. Like.

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Yeah.

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And it was epic because she said everything that needed to be said.

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Yeah.

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And then got a chance to defend herself. And then you saw her going to having fun and then telling everyone why it's okay to have free speech. She kind of touched on all four things that needed to be said in the moment.

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Yeah.

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But you know, the first. If Tony didn't go that. That far, that hard, I don't think that is received just as much. You know what I mean?

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You think that was the one thing that framed it? Cause it seemed like. I don't know. I don't know. Like, there's been some people talking about it.

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I mean, Chelsea's been talking about it a lot lately.

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What did Chelsea say?

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So she's really, like, saying, like, she's like, casting them out badly.

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Yeah.

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I mean, what do you mean?

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Like, she's like, they're sexist. They're bigots. They're like, there's nothing to do with what's funny. And she even brings up what Cheryl wasn't offended by and said that she would be.

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So she's trying to tell Cheryl what she's offended by.

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No, you can watch it right there.

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Yeah. She's on a pod with Dion. And this is basically what she said. This clip got like 14 million views. Did it? But yeah, I mean, it went crazy viral. But this is basically. We can cut through a couple parts,

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but Tony Hinchcliffe and Shane and their backgrounds. I had girls ex girlfriends blowing up my DMs that had dated Shane and were telling me stuff about him. So based on that, I was like, oh, these guys are pretty bad.

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So you had something on him that you was gonna. You could have.

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Tell us now, what's the biggest.

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That they're sexist. You know, that they think they're, like, invincible. That they've been canceled for being like, you know, Shane got fired from snl, but Then was on SNL years later. So he got fired. So what happened in between those two events? So he believes this is per one of his exes, that he's invincible. He's like, doesn't matter. I can say anything I want.

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Yeah. Do you think that now a lot of, like, white comics, they feel as though that they could say something racist and it's going to further their career.

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Oh, yeah.

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They're going to get in with that

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group of like, Roganites and that Austin group of Joe Rogan and all.

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She's Mike W. Is it?

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And I just, you know, like, that's their mo. Even some girl comics have started to do it to be like, in with that. With that group.

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Yeah, man. That Epstein comment hurt her, bro. That's got to be down.

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She was at the Island.

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Not even island. She went to like a, like a small dinner. Small dinner's worse. Like if you had like a big event he was at. Like, if you were at Coachella's, like, I didn't know he was gonna be at Coachella, but if you had his house with like seven other people.

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Damn.

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Yeah.

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What if you don't know, you can still not know.

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I know who's at the dinner with seven other people. Maybe how many dinners I've been to with.

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It might just be like, this is. That's so exotic. You're like, just trust me. We're going to this bomb ass island.

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I don't think it was at the island.

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Yeah.

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I think it was in New York City.

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We're about to have this bomb ass dinner.

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Yeah.

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You know what I'm saying?

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And it. Ferris and Chelsea. I think she talked about it a bunch before this.

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She.

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I think she did like, in a book and like, did it in like her special. Like, she talked about meeting him before.

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So why is she. Why is she, like, framing them in this light? This is what I don't understand.

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Oh, I thought it was the Zionist comment that got her.

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That's what I thought.

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Because right now that's radioactive right now.

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Oh, yeah. That's interesting. Yeah. So she's. What is she. She's saying she's a Zionist and.

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No, he said that? Yeah, he said it all in one in her intro.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Just a throwaway. And chuckled all the way through it. Like. No, I'm seriously. She really didn't go to a dinner. It's up, man.

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But anyway, it is funny that, like, she's. She's sitting there saying that, like, Shane and Tony are Nazis and she's sitting Next to Dion Cole, who's literally, like bringing Kanye on stage, who's selling, like, Nazi merch. There's no conversation about that.

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You see a lot of hypocrisy.

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Great news, everybody. I'm going to many, many cities at the end of the year. I'm going to Plano, Texas, Chandler, Arizona, Pasadena, Calif. San Diego, Detroit, Michigan, and Salt Lake City, Utah. It'll be a wonderful time and I can't wait to see you guys all there.

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Alex and I'm doing a lot of stuff in New York this summer. We have canceled comedy. We have another canceled comedy show that is June 24th. Head over to cancelcomedyx.com and then I have another one of my tennis series that is on July 25th. And you can get that@theallloveclub.com See you guys there. Peace.

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And then she goes on to talk about Cheryl and like, that whole how she felt about the jokes at the end. I think it's right around here.

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I'll take it, though. Like, I'm okay with her being like, I don't want you talking about lynching black people as a joke. Even if her. Even if the soapbox she's standing on is tattered. Yeah, somebody gotta say it. You Want me to look like us?

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Yeah.

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You know what I'm saying?

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Oh, you prefer if it's somebody else?

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No, I do prefer if it's us, but somebody needs to keep that going. So it's not like the blacks are still mad.

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You know what I mean?

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Validates your anger when somebody.

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No, it's not about. We're pissed already. But you guys don't respond. And you guys being. You guys don't respond until you see other white people involved. Like, look at the history of what it took to get real change in the civil rights movement. Like, they had to see some white people getting hurt. Like, oh, okay, now they've gone too far. Yeah, yeah.

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So you're saying that white people are the real good guys.

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Phenomenal.

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Yeah.

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It's just when. It's just when you get. When you get what you think is a win in the way you act, it's all the same. They used to have the same size parties than. It wasn't for.

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For.

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They wasn't for winning. So I'm just glad something was said. But I, you know, I hate that we have to sit back and like,

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do you ever have to battle that? Like, you're like, I'm a comedian and I say fucked up things versus

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not a black dude, of course. But I walk up to the line of what's acceptable. I might put a toe over and then I back up off of it. Like, I'm not. Some people are enamored by what it does to cross the line. Like, what are they going to do when I get on this side and then I play over here? Like, let's play in this area of like, like, let's. Let's elicit responses. Like, the response I want is laughter, so I just want to stay on the funny side of things.

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Yeah.

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As far as the. The black part, Like, I am. Like, there's nothing I can do to keep from being put that, like, comedy segregated. What do you do?

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Yeah, Yeah.

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I mean, what do you mean?

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Comedy segregated.

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Comedy segregated, yeah.

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Meaning what? Like, there's.

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Do you know segregation?

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Honestly, I don't see color. So, like, it never made any sense.

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The podcast is segregated.

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Why are there so many water fountains

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that made you Balrog. You would have seen each other after that, you street fighter. You're gonna be a black character. So let's see how you feel.

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So you mean, like, in terms of, like, there are circuits. There's like the black circuit, the white circuit, there's. The Latino now is building up. Yes.

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That's literally what it is.

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But you've done both. I've done both. I came up in the black circuit.

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Facts. But why does it have to be a circuit? It's only because of necessity. Black people wouldn't have had to be like, we gonna do it our way over here like this if there was fair inclusion.

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I think it's two things. I think it's. There's fair inclusion, but I also think it's like, people want to see the comedy that they relate to reflected. So, like, if you go to some, like, mainstream.

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I'm performing in theaters that black people weren't allowed in. Like, these. We aren't in new theaters. When's the last time you were in a brand spanking new theater? No, no, no.

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They're all old. Like, they're all good, like.

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And literally black people weren't allowed.

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Of course. Of course, of course.

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And we built it. So that's. I was at the rhyming, like, naked, naked, naked, naked. I hope everybody understands that that needs to be said by me on this stage. Now. Let the show. Yeah. Examples like that.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mexicans built the ryman because they redid it. But yeah, I think the initial.

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The initial.

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Unfortunately, I think people in the ryman have said that were before a lot.

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Yeah, a lot before.

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Y' all were like.

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They're like, finally back to what we

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used to down here. But there's. We went. We went to one theater and they still. Because it was like, historically. What did you see?

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It's in Alabama.

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We were there and it said.

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And there's a colored section that they kept up in the back where black people used to sit at shows. We did that one.

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Do you remember that? Well, this isn't what I was talking about, but this is very interesting.

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You didn't make black people sit there. I actually should have.

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So progressive.

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No, what I saw was there was one that kept their sink. It was like, this was a blacks only sink. And it was in the back and it didn't work. But they were like, just so, you know, like. So all these theaters at one point, not allowed. Then they let mezzanine seating. Then it's like, now y' all can come wherever. And then we were allowed to perform.

A

Yes. Yeah, yeah.

B

So it's not that far off. We're not talking like, my dad remembers.

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Yeah.

B

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, your dad remembers. I saw that video. Y' all walking msg. He's old enough. Yeah.

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My dad has his Alzheimer's. He doesn't remember.

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You don' See color. He doesn't remember color.

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Yeah, he thinks the lo is perfect. You know,

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that's funny. But.

A

No, it is. It is. Yeah. I guess that is. I don't know. It's also, like. It's weird for me because, like, my introduction to comedy was Deaf Comedy Jam, you know? And it was like. I don't even think I saw white comics. Like, I was, like, aware of, like, Seinfeld and that, but I never saw Seinfeld stand until late years later. I saw the show first, so it was this, like, thing that I saw and observed. And I also, like, grew up in New York, so it was a little bit different, obviously, for me, than somebody who, like, never saw diversity at all. Like, it wasn't, like, a weird.

B

You guys are definitely very cultured out this way.

A

Like, But I do agree with you. Like, less representation in the mainstream clubs. Way more now, but definitely less. Initially. There was always.

B

Why are you calling it mainstream? Do you see what I'm saying? Like, all of these definitions are because somebody was like, nah, let that be over there.

A

Well, I think they called it mainstream because of that reason. Right. It was like. It was called the chitlin circuit when I was coming up, which was, like, the black circuit because you guys love that food.

C

Yeah.

A

They would give free chitlins out at all the shows. Dude. That's why I went. I got five minutes and a bucket of chitlins. Shout out to Smokey Suarez, man.

B

I love you, Smokey.

A

I love you. Thank you. I never got any chickens. She had a parent and shot his shit.

B

I put smoky smokies on my.

A

Is he. Oh, yeah. I want to talk about that, too.

B

So, yeah, if you look at the definition of chillings, it literally is why it's called the chilling circuit. It's the part of the pig that nobody wanted to eat. So they're like, here, y' all can have that. And then they made the most of it. Yeah. And now it begin cultural delicacy or whatever. So, yeah, I'm not. I'm not trying to, like, rah rah for, like. Like, the black comics. I just wanted. I'm just saying it is. It is what it is. And the fact that you have to circumvent and go around or whatever, it's. The proof is in the pudding wing. Part of Hollywood goes, let's just go to Austin.

A

Explain that.

B

Well, Austin is very red.

A

Austin is not. Austin is like, Texas is red. Texas is red. Yeah.

B

Thompson girl was like, what you want is to be in the blue city and A red state.

A

But isn't that every, like, conservative state? It's like the capital's always like, the most, like, liberal place you go. Like the reddest fucking state facts.

B

But they're like, keep Austin weird. Like, they put effort into it.

A

That's what being democratic is. Interesting. These guys are fucking weird over here.

C

Like gay people, marriage.

B

Odd.

A

But isn't. Is it Washington like that, too? Isn't Washington super red? Except for.

B

No, Washington's blue.

A

I thought Washington was, like, where the KKK went or some.

B

And then, like, thinking about Idaho.

A

No.

B

Maybe Oregon or maybe I'll think of Oregon potentially.

A

Yeah.

B

Medford, Oregon.

A

Those are the same to me a lot.

B

All my dad's like, don't stop there for gas. That's all I know. When I was younger. Yeah. Like, when we were on college road trips, he's like, there's a lot of places you can get gas. I wouldn't recommend Medford. Gresham, they just had a high population of skinheads. Like, legit. Just like. Yeah. Tight black boots, big type jeans, big boots.

A

You know, now that you can go to Turkey, I feel like that skinhead is done. I feel like they were leaning into that a little bit because of, you know, like, hereditary reasons.

B

Germany, too.

A

They had hair over there.

B

Not the ones that were in them boots.

A

They didn't. I thought they had. They used to say that my haircut looked like that back in the day.

B

The old one got sideburns now.

A

No, I got sideburns.

B

That was that about the thing. I knew nothing of it. I was like, who the is that? But no, it was. It's a segregated thing. And I. That's why I like, kudos to you. Like, I. I give roses because you come up cultured. Right. Like, Bet Matt Rife. Right. Matt's little Ohio kid. He's been. I mean, came up cultured.

A

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

B

And so it's not like. Like it doesn't feel like because. Because of a thing. That success is a thing. I'm just saying, like, it's like, this is how crazy it is. Chocolate Sundays.

A

Yeah, yeah.

B

Mo better Mondays, tripping on Tuesdays, wilding out Wednesdays, Crack em up Thursdays. Those are the black shows in la. And you can legitimately do those your whole life.

A

Yeah.

B

And never do the star of chocolate sundaes come down on a Tuesday. They're gonna be like, you all right? You must be here for a check. So just to describe Wednesdays.

A

Yeah, but this is.

B

That's Richard Villa's brand.

A

I know. I know.

B

Slanted comedy. Okay, That's Evelyn San Juan. That's the Filipinos.

C

Really?

B

You think I'm making it up? That's what they call white night.

A

What?

B

College night? I swear to God. No way. Yes. And the weekend's an allstar comedy night where somebody from each one can pop in on a Friday. It's called All Star.

A

Yeah, but there's never white people in the All Star game.

B

Have you seen it? All Star Game.

A

We have to go do something called the Enhanced Game. Yeah, but he's German white. He's like, we don't really claim foreign whites. Yeah, I don't care.

C

You know what I mean?

A

Like, Luke is kind of like.

B

But look where the. Look where the. The. The one black show, that's the one produced black show was at the store.

C

What you're.

A

What you're describing was the LA comedy scene where there was like a night, there was a black night for all these different days. It's still like that. Yeah, but like, what sh. Do you think it has the same cultural impact that it did maybe 10, 15 years ago? Like, I remember those nights, to be honest, were the only nights that the clubs were sold out during the week.

C

Week.

B

Now you talking that.

A

But like, this is.

B

Okay, then how come ministry don't go to those nights?

A

So here's the thing that's interesting to me is it industry did start to go, and then those guys did start to pop off, and then those guys started to become part of the All Star lineups. And then all of a sudden now the mainstream show or the. The All Star show or whatever you call it, that now it's just a kind of normal show where like, everybody's involved in it. And then that took, I think, some of the heat off of the Black Knights.

B

I don't. I think that they went to Black Knights and they didn't grab. They grabbed. Who would say,

A

oh, that's interesting.

B

Yeah. Like, I'm from Seattle. I see it all. I'm black, but in a wildly diverse and or heavily white area. You just see it. I just see it.

A

So you think they were telling me

B

the crowds are there on Black Knight. Why aren't the cameras.

A

I'm telling you.

B

Or that you just said it.

A

I'm telling you what.

B

For the last 50 years in comedy. Let's go for as long as we could perform publicly. Yeah. Who's been the top five grossing comics?

A

Oh, I mean, yeah, no question.

B

But like, no question of what? Who.

A

It's been like, color wise.

B

Sure.

A

I mean, in the last few years, maybe it's different facts.

B

You hit the scene.

A

Shane is also absolutely crushing it, you

B

know, and all of that's fine. But I think.

A

But yes, you're talking about Chappelle. Right.

B

First of all, everyone is welcome to do stand. I don't want to be like, oh, I'm a separate. I'm separated. I'm just. I'm saying, here's what I see.

A

Yeah.

B

And then I know my own journey.

A

Well, pull it back even for. Because I think this is an interesting. So back in the day, with the clubs on the road, there would be like a week and a month that they had like a quote unquote black comic come in. Yep. From what I've been told, that weekend would pay for the rest of the weeks that the club is over.

B

Never heard that before.

C

Wow.

B

Wouldn't doubt it, though, because the whole

A

community would come out. And again, this is a community thing. Like, you've seen it also with, like Latinos. You've seen it with Asians. It's like when a community has representation. And I think one of the things that happens is like, when whiteness is ubiquitous, you need to be like, specific about your white. Like, whiteness doesn't have a culture around. It has like, okay, here's like white nerd culture. Here's white angry at women culture culture. Here's white blue collar culture. Here's the. What were those guys that did like,

B

it was called blue collar. Right.

A

So it's like now you need to be like, specifically niche within it. And I think that's also starting to happen with non whites, which I think is very cool. Right. Which is like, okay, here's a black nerd archetype. And I'm going to build a fan base around that. Here's the hood superstar. Here's the black, like, sophisticate, whatever. Like, to me, this is the. What happens when something becomes bigger than just the niche group.

B

Right. But there's certain acts that are for everyone.

A

Yeah, exactly. But back in the day, it was like one black comic that would come to the club and the whole community would come out.

B

Trust me, I get it. But what I'm saying is in the black community, we don't get to have those different whatevers. You're just a black guy.

A

But I think now that's starting.

B

You got on glasses, you don't see. That's one.

A

Got a book. You don't see.

B

Oh, my God.

C

Get him on college night.

A

You need a black Dimitri Marin.

B

Chocolate sundaes.

A

Yeah.

B

Basketball Tournament.

A

Yeah.

B

This is a thing.

A

But do you feel like it's changed at all, or do you think, like. Like, for me, like, you're a perfect example of you building your own audience, people coming out now you're doing these venues that, like, maybe would not be afforded to certain people 10 years ago, 20 years ago. They're in your position, and you're just proven through commerce. That's basically, like, they have to come to you if they want people to come to the club.

B

100%. But that's not my goal. I'm from a place that's very. Not black. Right? Like, my crowds are 40, 40 and 20. Black, white, and then other. Like, I have very diverse crowds. Right. I can tell when a club puts me in the. Let's market them urban. Right?

C

How?

A

How? How?

B

Well, first of all, there's not enough ranch for the customers that are coming. That's first. I had to tell Gary avo. It's facts. I had to tell Gary Avdo stop ordering chicken and order pepperoni. P. He's like, yo, I'm so glad you called me and told me that. Because we were leaning into the chicken order. I said, the crowd's not gonna be all black. It affects everything.

A

You don't even think about that, like, because you own a club. So you get it now. Yeah, Right.

B

I'm telling you. I know it's hilarious, but that's gotta.

A

Order is so funny because I remember early in my career, my crowds were majority black, right? I was doing, like, damn TV shows, and I was doing Brilliant Idiots with Charlemagne. And I remember having this moment every single weekend. It was my first time in a club where the owner or the manager would come to me, me. And he basically be like. He'd say, like, wow, there's a lot more black people than we thought. Without saying that.

C

And how do you say it?

A

He would.

B

They diverse.

A

Exactly, exactly.

B

Look at the diversity. They say the same thing to me, but they don't know how to say it. Because when people say diversity, it's white with other things added. Black with other things added isn't called diversity. That's just called, I guess, y', all, welcome to the. To the barbecue.

A

He's like, you're sorry, judge.

B

Funny's funny. You see what I'm saying? It's funny, right? Like, and what I saw was my videos. If I'm interacting with Samoans or white people or gay couple.

A

I like that pronunciation. That pronunciation right there. The Samoan.

B

Yeah.

C

Samo. Connection.

B

Yeah, but. But. Because if you look on My page. I'm talking to everyone. Yes, funny. I'm looking for the funny. In your life. In your life. So that's who's coming. Cause you feel welcome if you see a video and go, oh, okay, he's not bashing gays. He's at least talking to us and having fun. You know what I mean?

A

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

B

And so I'm inclusive in that sense. And so it's a trip when I see that with me as being as inclusive as I am, how I can be marketed. Cause somebody in their mind was like, run it, black, bro.

A

They're not used to it. It's just like. And it's something that.

B

Who's not used to it?

A

The clubs, I think.

B

No, it's not that. They think it's the archetype. So they go, why do they think it's the archetype? No, they're not used to me coming in breaking what they thought was facts. I can see every time it's a part of our advance, we're like, just so you know, we have to. Oh, wow. We have to have it in the advance.

A

They're like, hey, there's going to be not black people here. Yes.

B

You have to say that. Yes. Because it affects their liquor order. How? Try having an Asian headliner. And you don't. And you didn't order Hella Hennessy whiskey.

A

Yeah, yeah.

B

You're like, what do you mean? You out of bottle business. This effect, like, if people are paying, it affects it. Right? So I can tell when I come and do 13 shows in the Brooklyn Improv, 98% black. Even my openers are like, what are they doing different? Cause this is very, very black. I'm like, meaning what?

A

Is the club doing different?

B

Yeah.

A

You think that they're promoting you specifically to black people. Say, look at you.

B

Cause then I went and talked to the guy doing. I mean. I mean, you know who it goes out to.

A

And then, like, you're obviously furious because there's only black people there, right?

B

Or no, people are coming to laugh. They're coming to laugh. But if my crowds are normally 40, 40, and 20, and we did 13 shows with just black people, there's another 13 with white, and there's another six with non white. Of people missing.

A

This is what we always said.

B

I could have done a. I could have. I don't know. What's the garden hold?

A

15,000, 18,000, depend.

B

I could have tiptoed up to the small configuration.

A

You should do it. You should do it.

B

We should. That way they know everyone's welcome.

A

Listen. Yeah, I mean, I think it's cool what you're doing. Like, it's weird. It's like we're always the first people to know what our audience is and who we are.

B

Facts.

A

And it's like we can. Can be annoyed at the club for not knowing it, but also like they haven't experienced this type of thing in comedy. Especially if you had a comedy club for like 30 years, they don't know what to think. Right. I'm sure, like when they. I'm sure when they first had Gary in some of these clubs, they were like, wait, what's going. There's all these black women here.

C

What?

A

What? Like, there was no expectation of Gary to have that. If they're not doing the research and they do the research on you.

B

Yeah. But look at the resurgence of his career now. Of course it's because other is now even to the crowd he had this

C

whole time, he's like doubled up.

A

Yeah.

B

No, everybody, Gary Owen by. If you close your eyes, that's a black headliner. If you go off of the audience that's sitting there, if you walk out and had to guess who's performing, it's a black headliner. He's the host of Comic View.

A

Yeah.

B

Okay. Now because of social media and the algorithm and stuff that he's done that different people helped him do and what he's built in the footwork, the algorithm doesn't look at him and say that same thing the Internet looks at. The algorithm goes this. A white man send this stuff to white people. Right.

C

So he's doubled that white audience with black lines.

B

It is lines and it's beautiful. The line is checkered all the way down. Right, Right. And same goes for like a Jo Koy.

A

Yeah.

B

Hysterical.

A

Yeah.

B

But the Internet, the algorithm is going to send them to every nurse in the tri state area, not just a Filipino fuck. But that's because it is typecasting whoever is at the place.

A

Yeah.

B

You know what I'm saying? And I can't get. You can't. There's no way to be like, hey, Facebook marketing. When I say these interests, I don't mean the black people that are interested in that. Just let me just put. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I'm not gonna be running ads to people. Cauliflower fans. What is the key words for how we get to the white folks? Cause they like laughing at me. We share funny, we have a good time. But they look at and they're like, oh, big black dude no, put them over there. But I've always dealt with that. I won the Bay Area Black. And they're like, what kind of black are you? I'm from Seattle.

A

But what do you mean you won. You won the Bay Area Black? And who was like, what type of black are you?

B

Memphis black people? Mississippi black people? Florida black people? New York black people. Like, he had different kind of like. I went to Florida Memorial College as an undergrad straight out of high school. It was my first time seeing more than two types of black people. Because in Washington, you got. I moved here to raise my children blacks. Yeah. And then you got. Look, cuz, it is what it is, okay? I got to Florida.

A

Tell us, tell us.

B

I mean, you got a Florida boy right here. So then you know what I'm talking about. It's the Caribbean.

C

Yeah.

B

Yes. I mean, I met. I met Trinidad Tobagos. I met. I met Jamaicans. I met Jamaicans from New York, Jamaicans from Jamaica, and they had beef. I was like.

A

We call it oxtail, but yeah, yeah, all of them.

B

That's wild. I met Haitians.

A

So that was the first time you met black people with an identity.

B

I had a culture shock as a

A

black man, but his identity outside of American blackness, because that's what you're describing with people.

B

No, but these were all Americans heritage.

A

Yeah, but their. Their identity, it's like when you meet an Italian. Italian, they could be from Jersey, they could be from New York, but they have this identity that is outside of America and outside of being white in America. And the same thing exists when you meet a Nigerian that grew up here, Jamaican, et cetera. There's like this other culture that is framing their world. The way that they eat, the way that they interact with, they speak. And when you're growing up in Washington,

B

what do you call an Italian from Italy?

A

That's what we call them.

C

Okay.

A

The straight ones moved here and then they're out there making master.

B

No.

A

What do we call an Italian from Italy? Yeah, yeah.

C

Wap.

A

You know, I don't know. What do you call. Sounds like Guinea?

B

A wet ass. What? Exactly. So I think that, like the fact that we have that in, but somebody on the outside seem like those are the Italians.

A

Well, that was the interesting thing that happened with Sebastian.

B

Get that.

A

Yeah. On the outside, go, those are towns.

B

I would go, those are the Jamaicans. And they're like Ross clad. Yeah, Jamaica, Jamaica, New York, Jamaica. And then New York, New York, Jamaica. Like south side. Jamaican queen.

A

Yeah, yeah.

B

Upstate Jamaica. Okay.

A

Yeah, yeah.

B

Canadian, Jamaicans.

A

Yeah.

B

Okay, yeah. But to me, not knowing anything about the culture, I go, that's all the Jamaicans things.

A

Yes.

B

Put them all over there. They can argue inside the truck. They can argue inside the building once they're there. What kind you are? Yeah, okay. Italians. You, you, if you're familiar, you're like, that's a. A wet ass one. And then this is a Jersey Italian. Okay, yeah, sure. That's different, right?

A

Brooklyn Italian.

B

That's different. They act different.

A

Yeah.

B

Okay, so. But I'm sure that's Italians now.

A

But you know, like when you grow up in the city, you know that if.

B

That's why I said New York is the exception, because you guys don't have a choice.

C

Yeah.

B

You just walking. You see people living other lifestyles. You got to at least get familiar. Yeah.

A

It's wild, though.

B

So. But even then there's different types of Jewish people. Yes, right.

A

Yes.

B

But if you don't know, you're like them, the Jews.

A

Right.

B

And they have to tell you like, well, no, I'm. I'm different kind of Hasidic Jew.

A

Yeah.

B

Okay. So if that's what it is, then please know. It's the same thing for blacks. But you had to be like, those are the blacks. Yeah, it's chocolate.

C

Dominican blacks aren't even black.

B

It takes effort to be like, I'm going to show that I'm not just with the blacks. Black. I'm going to go out of my way to go to the other nights. I'm going to make a point to not just go where they tell me I'm welcome. I'm going to go everywhere. And the person that does. That does sound, move, talk and walk different, maybe if they're more cultured or whatever, but they just do. Like. I see a cultural difference between Katt Williams. Williams and Chris Rock, of course.

A

Yeah.

B

Right. There's somebody pulling some strings that doesn't. They're blacks.

A

You also didn't see it until you went to school in Florida.

B

Facts.

A

So it's an education process, which I'm

B

not knocking that, but I think that

A

you're the education process for a lot of these people.

B

I'll take all of that. But if you own a comedy club for 30 years, if you're in the industry, there's no excuse.

A

Well, there's also racism. I don't know.

B

All of that to get back to explaining when you're getting.

A

When you're asking for Friday, Saturday, and they're like, but you're black, we're going to put you on Sunday, Yeah, you're

B

Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Saturday, you guys go

A

during the week, you sell out the whole thing and it pays for the whole month.

B

The deals are different too. Interesting for sure.

A

You weren't just getting whole door even when you did during the week.

B

You like if I threw my own

A

show, if you were doing like a weeknight, they would obviously give you the majority of the door.

B

By the time I was eligible for door deals.

A

Yes, but then you're doing weekends anyway. And then you just keep.

B

But there's some leapfrogging that happened with me and. But I own a club. I own the biggest black owned comedy club in America at 280 seats. I get the calls from the agents that are like, do you want this person? I wish I could say names so you would understand. They're like, here is African American female beast for X amount. I'm like, that's doable. Also, if you have a weekend open for unknown. Never heard of white guy 85%.

A

Interesting. And then what do you have to say?

B

Are you out of your mind? You're paying her that and him that. Why wouldn't you be offering me his deal for her? That person has 30 years in comedy. That person is hysterical. That person's like, what's the difference? Yeah, and it's not even about asses and seats. You just got this person's 30 year career set up to be half papered forever. Wow.

A

Interesting. Even though that person's a draw and you know that that person's going to sell it no matter where they go,

B

it's not selling out at that point. I mean for unknown, white guy wasn't no draw. They're like, let's grow it together. Oh wow.

A

So even the way that they're marketing

B

clients to you, you don't even know it.

A

Holy.

B

People don't realize it. And that's what I'm saying. When I'm sitting here talking, I'm not. I could easily just be like, oh man, he's all wound up. Or I could literally be seeing this shit every day. And then when I go into the city and I see 100% black audience, I'm like, somebody missed something.

A

My.

B

Or if it's all white, I'm like, okay, we went too hard the other way.

A

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B

business I came before they Were defining what pocket to put you in.

A

That's the thing. And so it's like, you know what I found out? Yeah.

B

Matt Rife, you were his. You were his impetus. He saw you posting the videos and he was like, I'm gonna do that.

A

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

B

He was mine. He came to my club and he didn't sell one year and the next year he did. And then he was. I said, what did you do? He was like, on TikTok?

A

Yeah.

B

That's it.

A

Yeah.

B

Then that's the rest on me.

A

But yeah.

B

So thank you. Who was yours? Who's. Who's this? Who's the start of this? Let's film ourselves and put it online. Did you see someone do something?

A

Russ. Russ the musician?

B

Really? I thought you were going to say Russell Peters.

A

No, I mean shout out Russell Peters. And Russell Peters gave me a glimpse. So, like, early in the career, it was basically like I wanted to make it through, like the traditional ways or whatever. Get a premium blank, get a fucking Comedy Central half hour, all those things. I was never, you know, given any of those opportunities. And like, me too.

B

But they wouldn't put me on the channel.

A

Exactly.

B

Gotta go on Black Entertainment Television.

A

So I couldn't even get on that.

B

Right.

A

Well, I did. I got on MTV2, which was basically black MTV2. They just didn't want to say it like that, but. And it was awesome. And we got all these crazy things. And then I did the pod with Charlamagne. And Charlamagne is just the fucking man. And like, you know, all this is downstream from him, by the way. And. And. But like, I, you know, I was able to kind of build up a little audience online. And then there was some maybe residual of the MTV stuff, but I was never like, really selling out with the MTV stuff. Okay. Tried to do one more shows like for Vice or something. I was like, if this don't work out, I'm putting everything online. And I put out a special that I couldn't sell anywhere online. And then the next weekend I like, sold out a club, but it was like paper sellout.

B

Either way they came, bro.

A

You know, back in the day, if

B

the room is full, I'm move the needle. And plus the people don't know anyway.

A

They don't know.

B

They have no idea the person.

A

They're the only ones that think that they didn't pay.

B

Yeah. Each one is like, I've got a deal.

A

Exactly. So I put it out. And then I saw Russ doing this thing where he put out a song, a Week.

B

I saw that too, and I was like, I don't know how long his run was, but he was on it.

A

He was on it. Yeah. And I was like, I'm not working hard enough. So I started put. I was like, I'm gonna do 52 weeks of comedy, and for every week, I put out a new clip. And I was just cutting them myself a lot. And then it was just.

B

Captioning was a. I didn't.

A

So I. At first, I didn't understand captioning. And then we figured out the idea was basically like, most people are watching this on the subway or. Or the bus, so they can't put it loud. You know, they can't have the volume on unless they're.

B

I'm like, they're sneaking at work. I figured they're sneaking at work or sneaking at work.

A

So I'm like, okay, we need to at least engage them in some way. So there's other things that we started to, like, find, you know, different things. Some things happen by accident. Like when we were doing a. Your phone videos, we just didn't want to re edit the whole vertical, so we were just like, turn your phone. And it was so funny, like, the way that people reacted. They were like, they found an engagement hack. When you turn your phone, you can't scroll. And we were like, oh, yeah, that's what we did.

B

But anyway, I thought that was so ingenious.

A

That was. That was Mark and I and Alex and just like, just locked in a fucking room and shout out Robbie Slovik. But, like, we just put on. We just put out content. And then things start to build. And it built in the coolest way because. Because it just sent it to people who.

B

Were you teleprompted for those for when

A

I did the Turn your phones. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

B

Okay.

A

Had to be. It was just too loud.

B

I was like, how big is this motherfucker's brain? I was sitting on my toilet like, God damn. A lot of work.

A

Very small brain. But yeah, it was like, anyway, putting the stuff out there, and then all these different people got to access the content. So when I did hit the road, it wasn't this like, hey, let's build this act together. Like, they used to, you know, kind of like, pitch the clubs. And back in the day, we were able to get people in.

B

They still do it, but then you got diversity right away. But so you got the Internet. That's like, I like this guy.

A

Exactly.

B

Yeah. And I hate to say it, but the Internet doesn't see color Unless we literally make an effort.

A

We force them to. Yes. And if you don't force them to, everybody's just going to come to your stuff because you're.

B

They're watching it all in private.

A

Yep.

B

And even if. Even if you're a little old white and your whole community. There's no black people.

A

Yeah.

B

In that. Would you get in the right algorithm? You're like, this is my thing. So then when that person's coming to town, here's a little white lady at a show where you be like, okay, I did a show in a theater. They had another theater. William Shatner was there.

A

Okay.

B

The staff was like, literally, couples were coming up and they're like, you guys going to see William Shatner?

A

Yeah, I'm never gonna see Nate Jackson. Yeah, yeah.

B

You guys go see, like, my manager's assistant's dad and his girlfriend came. These are, like, really old. They just came out and they just started guiding them to William Shatner, like, through both lobbies. Where are you sitting? They're like, we're here for Nate Jackson. Like, really? Oh, well, go back that way. Follow the blacks. Like that, like. And so that's the most genuine form of it.

A

I agree. But what I am concerned with a little bit is, like, now that there's so much content on the Internet, not just stand up in an effort to get it to the right people, the algorithm gets more sophisticated, and then I think you lose a little bit of the diversity. Like, the algorithm doesn't take a chance like it used to, where they would just send a clip that you did to Filipinos that got nothing to do with Filipinos, but they're like, ah. They, like, stand up. So they'll probably like this thing now. I think it's getting so specific that it might send it to the exact group people they think will like it. And then you lose a little of this cool flavor of somebody experienced something that had nothing to do with them, that they actually enjoy. So I'm like, there's a little part of me that goes like. Does everything just become heightened in a specific niche? Especially in this time?

B

Yes.

D

Are you noticing the same thing because you put out a lot of.

B

Yeah, I put out like 40. I don't know. I think I'm. I'm putting out somewhere between probably three hours and somewhere between three and four hours of material a month.

A

It's crazy.

B

I'm going out.

A

Yeah, bro. It's. The volume is.

B

And so I know it's getting niched off. Right. You know what I'm Saying. And you feel it, right? Yeah. But I make an effort to be like, we're posting the fishing video. We're posting the video with the amputee. We're posting the video with the gay couple. Like, oh, interesting.

A

So you are.

B

You literally have to come out and

A

be like, fighting back against where the algorithm wants to send you.

B

I'm paying attention to what the Internet's doing, and I'm adjusting my set, which is what we all do. Right. Like, you saw, I sat down on stage. I used to. I. Very physical. I was the biggest physical guy. Big old, just running around me and akin to like a Rodney Perry. And then I ran out of the video. I ran out of the damn screen. I ran off camera two, three times. I let me sit my fat ass down. So then I sat on the stool. And that's why they're like, he even stand up. Right. Cuz I didn't have people. I just had a tripod. I set it in the back when I ran off, and nobody was there to be like, get back between those lines. Now it's different. But, yeah, I remember those days.

A

You got the tripod, the tripod, the back half, the clip got like a server's platter there. And she ain't even serving. She's just, like, watching the show. Like, she can't be upset. It's in the way the people laughing and the camera shaking.

B

Yes.

A

You know, like, this is. But this was at a different time. And entertainment Internet where, like, rough things were really valued.

B

Yeah.

A

Because people thought that they were almost stealing. They're like, I get to watch Stand up for free. I can only watch that on hbo. I can only watch that on Comedy Central.

B

Yeah.

A

And then we were serving.

B

Yeah.

A

Not to get caught up in nostalgia, but, like, there is a beauty to the roughness of it. You know, I always think about, like, how do we bring in a version of that back where it feels heightened, but it has that intimacy of the early days. Days.

B

I thought of a couple ways.

A

Talk to me.

B

Stop bagging up phones and encouraging the film, bro. I. I want you guys to start filming when you leave home.

A

Yeah.

B

I'm saying film from the house. Like, make it a. Make a vlog. And I want to see it from your little dirty angle with the fat guy's ear in your shot and all that. Like, you're just getting it out. Like it's. You don't. You know, because we're. We're. We're. We're doing 10 table kills. Like, you'll take Take that table out. That table out. Put the tripod right there. There is no way someone's in the way. But if you're, like, just getting gully with it, like, you take. But. And you guys all airdrop it to this MacBook before you leave, and then you got this wild footage from all over.

A

Are you worried about losing material? Because I know you're doing a lot of crowd work, but, like, you obviously have.

B

That's the conversation we have a lot. I don't. I don't post jokes.

C

I don't.

B

But I have, like, my set right. Right now. Try. I'm trying to get it back down, but it's. I'm doing, like, 88 minutes on average right now. Wow. And so there's like, 35, 40. Of. Of just. I just come out on the ass.

A

Pause. No, and then.

B

And then I'll open it up to crowd work.

A

But are they. So basically, whatever you give people is their expectation for you. So if you give people crowd work, they're going to go, go, okay. This whole show is going to be crowd work.

B

They're for sure. Online, being like, all he does is crowd work. And people are like, go to his show. It's way more.

A

Well, no, I'm saying when they show up.

B

Yeah, I've had that, too.

A

And are they upset when they don't see it in the show?

B

No, because they get it.

A

Got it.

B

The jokes are. It's not like. It's not like me doing my material. Keeps it here. And then I go, all right, Crowd work. And then we come up here.

A

Your material is conversational in the same way.

B

No, I'm ripping. I'm sweating wet, wiping my brow. And then I'm like, are you motherfuckers ready for some crowd work? After that? Then they're like, oh, like the other night, a guy was like, look at that one.

D

Crowd work.

B

But he didn't even realize.

C

I'm just.

B

I'm just. I came out. Yeah, I'm. I'm trying to. That's that hunger that young, you know, when you're like, I gotta kill. I gotta kill. I still have that. And now it's a chip to where I'm like, okay, y' all think that the crowd work is. How can that possibly be better than something I looked at twice?

A

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

B

Also, how can it be raw? Like, if it's the second time I said it? I'm trying to channel how I said it so that it felt as authentic the first time.

A

Right.

B

Crowd work is the most authentic, purest form of standup period. Otherwise you're just.

A

You're.

B

You're just. You're a teleprompter.

A

Yeah.

B

You get what I'm saying?

A

Yeah. The pushback, I would say, is that, like, I don't think that a joke you really believe in and care about is inauthentic. I think that recreating that.

B

But I wouldn't say that's pushback. I'd say that's just a different conversation. Conversation.

A

Yeah.

B

If we're talking about material, bet.

A

Yeah.

B

Like, you're talking. Let's say the material is about your father. Right. Like, how can that be inauthentic?

A

Exactly.

B

Right.

A

Yeah.

B

But if you talk to somebody and right there they tell you they have all that is your experience.

A

Yeah, of course.

B

What you know about it.

A

I think people not crowd work, and I don't think it's fair. I think that. I think there's a lot of frustration around comics who maybe they don't.

B

They.

A

There's one. A lot of shitty crowd work out there, but there's also a lot of shitty. Just jokes out there.

B

Yeah.

A

But, like, I also think that there's a lot of comics who, like, they just don't feel inclined to talk to the audience. They're really not curious about the audience and they don't. They're maybe not good at it, but they see crowd work as the way to succeed. So there's like a little resentment maybe for it. But I think if you're. If you're genuinely curious about the audience and you enjoy the interaction.

B

I do.

A

You shouldn't shy away from it, like, because some people are being critical of it. I feel the same way about impressions. Like, some people, like, hate impressions. They're like, it's not stand up, it's cool, but it's not a joke. But then there are some people that do impressions that have jokes built into it brilliantly. And you're like, that's unbelievable. So I just think there's levels to all these different styles of comp.

B

People are going to get money.

D

People are upset or frustrated by crowd work just because they see so many clips of that. Like, those are the clips that people are putting out more than their actual.

A

Because that's what you can recreate. You can't put four hours of jokes out every week.

D

So now people are just like, oh, this is what everybody does now.

B

Well, that's what I was tempted to do because, like, I like how Josh Johnson is like, I'm going to focus on this one thing and Lock in.

A

It's unbelievable.

B

And just pin game it. It's all good. He has a writer's table. I don't give a. I don't think Josh does. I'm sure it's all him, but I'm just talking shit. But I just. I'm like, are you kidding me? Like, on what flight did you write that hour?

A

Well, here's what he has that you don't have is autism. And that allows you to lock in and put the pen to paper for seven straight days with an hour of new material about it. It's unbelievable. Yeah.

C

We were asking him, like, yeah, how do you do it? He was like, that's just all I think about.

A

He.

B

He told us, I just spent the

C

whole week working on it.

A

He also said he has, like, memory tricks to remember it. Like, he was like, I create these, like, memory loops in my brain.

C

He's like, I'll think of a word that's the first letter of each chunk, and I go through the word and

A

hit all the letters.

B

Oh, like mneonically.

A

Yeah.

B

So he'll do a set list. It's called Stars, Women, Turtles. And he memorizes cwt. Yeah, exactly.

A

Something like that.

B

People do that for scripts too, right?

C

Yeah, that's basically.

A

And he's got a script that he gotta remember every week.

B

But even when I'm, like, breaking down sides and stuff or about to go acting to a scene, and I'll take the most powerful word from each. Whatever. Each block, and then I'll remember it.

C

Right.

B

You need triggers. Yeah. It's mir. It's miraculous. There's somebody out there that goes another black.

C

Should we rip some feelings of facts?

A

Yes, let's rip some feelings of fact.

C

Have you seen the Enhanced games? People online are. Are panning it, but basically it is a.

A

Do you know what it is? The Enhanced game.

B

I just bought stock in it.

A

Did you really?

B

Are you. Me?

C

No.

A

Not good.

B

I did it.

A

Not good. I mean, it's just like a. They're just trying to pump up peptides, right? Like, that's all it is.

B

That's not peptides.

A

Well, they're trying to get people to. What I imagine is. Is, like, the people who are owning the Enhanced games are also, like, deeply invested in all these pharmaceuticals that, like, help you.

B

Is that today? Yeah.

A

That's in the red, my boy Nate.

C

I don't know.

B

How much does that drop, though?

C

40%.

A

Oh, just 40?

B

Yeah. But what's the monetary value of it?

C

Right now it's trading at. What is that? Like $3.

A

$3.18.

C

Yeah.

A

Yeah.

B

I should buy more right now.

C

For anyone that doesn't know this is an Olympics that is basically.

A

You can use steroids. Yeah.

C

Enabling and accepting, but you can't really use steroids.

A

So there's all these restrictions in it. Like, your testosterone can't be over 2,000. Like, because there's liability. Like, if you just get juice of the gills and someone dies, then it's on you. You can't even use BPP. Was it BPC157? So there's all these peptides you can't even use. And then the worst, worst thing that could have possibly happened is the dude that didn't use any steroids in one of the swimming races won.

C

That also happened with a sprinter as well.

A

So it's like what you want is a guy who just ran in high school to get on juice.

B

Yeah, but that's what we watched. I say the opposite. So you got a bunch of average Joe's juiced up, keeping up with a pure athlete. Like, this guy was just on his couch two weeks ago.

A

But these guys aren't average Joes. These guys are elite guys that lost to a dude that's not even on steroids.

B

So they're elite as well. Yeah, but what made them elite?

C

They're like former Olympians.

A

Or they're like, this guy was a former Olympian.

B

But the drug. Look at all that meat. I come off his back. That's drugs.

A

Yeah, that's the drugs.

B

Right. And without that. Imagine what he looked like without any of that muscle mass. Just an accountant.

A

No, because he was an Olympian before. All that muscle mass.

B

Yeah. What, what colors? Below bronze. Azul.

A

I guess the point is, is, like, won, though. Did this guy win?

C

I. I can't. I don't know specifically.

B

Yeah, he won like a porpoise.

D

I don't like the fact that they putting limitations on this.

A

Like, just let him go. You can't, because they'll die.

B

Yay.

A

Like, all these weightlifting dudes die at 40.

D

So we watch UFC fights.

B

People is white now, bro. Like, they get car.

C

I think that's a before and after.

B

But I'm just saying, we watched from Deadpool to this.

A

Yeah, yeah.

C

So Fred Curley ran 100 meter in 9.97.

B

I saw that. But how old is this guy? How old was he in the picture on the left? Because that says 20. Isn't that 2008? What is that behind it? Which Olympics is this?

C

I don't know which one that is.

B

I can find out Though he looks a lot older in the face on the right.

A

Yeah.

C

I mean, steroids will do that a little bit.

B

Yeah.

C

Steroids will age you.

B

Now, if he's only six months different, I'd be like, okay, yeah.

C

But the claim was that these were gonna smash all the records. And I think this guy even said, like, yo, give me a million bucks, I'll juice to the gills and I'll break the record.

A

Well, that was the thing. If you break a record, you get a million bucks.

B

Yeah.

A

I think a couple guys might have did it, or, like, one guy did.

C

There was one swimmer that did it, I think, with a swimsuit that was banned in 2008.

A

So that's not even you.

C

And so it's not nationally. It's not recognized by any governing body. Even the ones that would acknowledge a steroid.

A

Yeah.

C

They're like, well, the swimsuit plus the steroids. And then he just beat it.

A

So I was talking to his trainer. He basically said, the problem is, is, like, the elite at the elite guys don't get that much benefit from steroids because they're already genetic freaks.

B

Now we're saying the same thing.

A

Yeah. Whereas, like, the regular guys like us, if we got on juice, maybe we get closer to those guys. Not on juice.

B

You're still seeing shoulder blades and butt cheeks, but you're way closer to Hussein Bolt.

A

Yeah, yeah, right.

C

And I think even the people in, like, the 100 meter, for example, like, he ran a 9.97. Usain Bolt is like a 9.5 something or something like that. But I think, like, the heist school Texas state championship would have still beat this guy.

A

So it's like, yeah, but there's better steroids guys.

C

Exactly. But also now people are saying that the regular Olympics. This is an allegation, is also the steroid Olympics.

A

Yes.

C

Without getting caught.

A

Yes. You get off. What is it they say? You start the cycle and you get off of it within enough time where it doesn't come up in any samples.

C

They try to test.

D

It's not like boxing that they can just test them randomly.

A

I don't think they test all year, so they stay out of the testing pool. And then there's like a, you know, few months or whatever it is. Now, these guys are all always in a tournament if you're doing it. But the Olympics is once every four years. So there's probably a way to get as juiced up as possible, get it out the system. And then when you're in the Olympics, you already own it.

C

So people Are saying, this is the. The Olympics is like the Enhanced Games with the most elite athletes. Whereas the Enhanced Games is the second tier most elite athletes with steroids. You know, like, so they're like, hey,

B

we're just telling you we're enhanced.

A

Yeah, exactly.

B

The Olympus is enhanced.

C

What people are saying. So they're like, the Olympics is already the Enhanced Games. And this is kind of proving that to some people. Then other people are going the other way saying, nah, this proves that steroids doesn't do anything in the face of elite.

B

That's. That's silly. You can look at a person on roids and be like, golly, there was changes. It does something.

A

Yeah. Oh, it makes you look amazing.

B

Yeah.

A

But the Enhanced Game isn't who looks the best.

C

But I think people are saying, which

B

I get, but we're taking average people and turning them into monsters and then letting them go out there with gifted people who.

A

Well, they're not even average. These people are like Olympic competitors.

B

But no, they were. That guy is way younger on the left than he is now. Like, I would love to see the difference in age. Plus, the Olympics do train four years, if not eight or your whole entire life.

A

Yeah.

B

And this seems like they're like, hey man, we about to do Enhanced Games in six months. Yeah, get your needles. You know what I'm saying?

A

They got to just do it with us. They have to take people who are at most high school athletes and then pump them full of shit and see how competitive they can be.

C

And I think some of them are still happy with this. So, like, the dude, Curly. I forgot his name. Eric or Fred Curley. Like, I think for a regular event, he might win like 20 grand if he wins 100 meter. Whatever. He. I think he won like 250,000.

B

He did.

A

Wow.

C

So even for him to not break a world record to just show up and beat everyone at these Enhanced Games, he still got a crazy payday.

A

Yeah.

C

So for him, he's like, yeah, I'll do it.

D

Where's his.

A

Where's the.

D

Just aired.

A

I know.

B

It was completely private.

A

Oh, really?

B

He was invite only. So how the did they make. This is why I bet. I was like, I'm betting that. Cuz as soon as they have tickets for sale, I'm. Who wouldn't want to go see. Yeah, a human pterodactyl doing gymnast stuff.

C

And then people were even saying that this dude started like, sinking the water. I'm pretty sure, like, that was like, what people.

B

He wasn't bl.

C

That saw yeah. Cuz he's like so muscle down like he was jumping in the water and like sinking. So to a certain extent, like all this extra muscle mass might be. It hurts a detriment when it comes to like moving through the water.

B

Oh, wow. But if they figure out the right regimen for a swimmer, it's over with.

A

Yep. Unless they've already figured it out and that's what they do in the Olympics

B

or felt interesting maybe.

C

Yeah.

A

What else we got?

C

Okay, there's a. There's a couple other things right here. Hold on, let me pull this up. There's a. A guy on Fox News that was allegedly wearing a mask.

A

Oh yeah, this is.

B

I saw that. Did you see this? I think the neck was loose.

A

Yeah, yeah.

C

Here, I'll pull it up right here. This is.

B

But why are we saying allegedly? We all saw the neck.

A

Well, well, he wasn't wearing a mask.

C

Well, it's difficult to say. So this is the, the environment was

B

he have the smoking things in the position to demand those. So I think in that sense he controls the narrative and when he would strike.

C

So you see the neck part here?

B

Yeah. So we're saying that's a skin flap.

C

So you see people see this video. Plus they also see Fox News having a history of bringing on people that might. Might not be the people that they're interviewing. So like there's been a bunch of clips where it's like former antifa member talks about how they're gonna destroy cities. And it's just like a dude with a mask.

A

Yeah.

C

And they're like, oh, this is just like an actor. Someone that they brought in to like.

B

Really?

C

Yeah, to like talk crazy shit. So that's what the whole allegation is. And everyone's kind of run with the story that this is a guy wearing a very realistic mask. But now people have come out specifically this guy, Dr. DIS or Captain Disillusionment. He says this is called like a double shadow. This guy rules, by the way, if you ever watch his YouTube videos, he

B

brings down Dr. Disillusionment.

C

Illusion breaks down a lot of stuff on the Internet.

A

He's very cool.

C

So he's saying that you have lighting in the studio coming from above that creates this, lighting coming from below that creates that. And then in certain effects, when you put them together, it will create a shadow from his neck, from the collar

A

on his shirt onto his neck.

B

Let's go back. That's a mask, bro.

A

It's probably a white table.

B

Nah.

C

And people are saying that's A shadow coming from the bottom. Bottom of his shirt, interfering with the shadow comb from the top.

B

Nope. Nope.

A

If he had eyebrows, maybe, but.

B

No.

A

Right.

B

That's a lizard.

C

It doesn't help that he looks like a mask anyway.

A

It is, and they didn't even finish it. Like, they didn't give him hair. They didn't give him any sort of, like. Yeah, not a single wrinkle. The guy's 70 years old. Like, there are other issues with this. 100%.

B

Yeah. That's not shadows, man. It's too. Too crispy.

C

Right. So this is what people have been on online debating, but I don't know.

B

He sounds like he's wearing a mask. Like, those are new lips. That's how it sounds.

A

But now the only thing that makes me think it isn't is that if you were wearing a mask, you would have a turtleneck on. Like, you wouldn't unbutton three buttons because you know you're wearing a fucking mask.

B

He's supposed to be buttoned up. Somebody's like, we got to mic you up. It has to be outside of your thing, and it shouldn't be.

A

He's like, well, I'm a rat, so how do you want to navigate this?

C

But it seems like such an obvious mistake that even if you're running some type of psyop to cover someone up, I'm like, I feel like you would. You would fix that.

A

Unless that's what they want us to think.

D

Mark, that's a mistake. That's a mask.

C

So you're saying mask.

D

That's definitely a mask.

A

I'm not.

C

I'm not convinced.

B

I think it might be a double shadow.

D

Oh, did Epstein kill himself also?

A

Come on, man.

B

Then go viral. Yeah. Hey, it's not me.

C

This guy's not had eyebrows since 2011. I'm trying to find, like, an old photo.

A

Always find a good one.

B

He got his neck in 2011, though. Okay.

C

Thomas Massie loses his seat in Congress. I don't know if you saw this, Nate.

A

What do you think about that?

B

I don't know what we're talking about.

A

Well, there's this guy who's basically saying, like, we should expose all the people that were, you know, involved in the Epstein stuff. And he's like, why are we going into this war in Iran? And he's like, why are we ballooning the budget? And then people were like, that guy seems like an asshole. We shouldn't vote for him.

C

Yeah, he was.

B

He was a whistleblower, basically.

C

Not even. He was just proponent For Epstein, transparency.

D

And he just went against Trump's agenda.

B

Where?

A

In Kentucky.

D

Kentucky.

A

It wasn't even this. It was a primary. It wasn't even the main election.

B

Yeah.

A

So they just brought this guy out of nowhere. I've never even heard of this other guy, Ed Gallerine or something like that. And really? Yeah. Ed's whole thing was like, yeah, let's not expose anything about Epstein and let's send your kids to diner on. And let's budget. And then people in Kentucky were like, that guy sounds. Sounds like an American dude. That's. That's. That's a real patriot.

C

And Trump kind of blew up this whole thing in, like, a small local election in Kentucky into, like, this national news story and used his leverage to get him out.

A

Then all these lobbyist groups spent fucking.

B

Wait, what do you mean?

A

Dollars.

B

Like, he brought national.

C

Yeah, yeah. Trump is going hard being like, we got to get Massey out of here.

A

Because Massey is a Republican, but votes against the party a lot.

B

Oh, well, yeah, that's what time it is.

A

He votes against the party in times where he should, but they don't want.

B

They don't want. He doesn't want anybody to be pushing for.

A

Exactly.

B

So, yeah, where I can get you out, I get you at.

C

So.

A

But they just spent so much money. They spent $30 million on this in the little primary. Kentucky in a primary, not even the main election for who's going to be the Republican candidate. Yeah.

B

That's insane.

A

And his groups. That got nothing to do with it.

B

I don't like that. The p. The packs don't even have nothing to do with Kentucky.

A

All the packs and the packs aren't even. They're not even pushing the agenda of the pack. They're just being like, yeah, this guy is an.

B

I didn't. I. I. What I think is interesting is, like, if I'm gigging and I'm like, in a place, I will actually, like, be exposed to it to see how ridiculous it is. But, like, now it just sounds. This just sounds crazy shady to me.

A

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

C

So now people are very disillusioned. Like, anyone that had any symbols of hope where, like, they're looking at a Thomas Massey, like a Rokhana, being like, these guys are fighting a good fight. Fight. Yeah.

A

The second they do it, it's more dangerous now, though. Oh, what do you mean by going that.

B

Because you. Now. Now he's his own. He's his own boss.

A

Yeah.

B

That's not his boss anymore.

C

That's.

B

That's by way of by way of how politics is set up. You can make way more noise outside

A

of politics talking his without the restrictions.

B

Martin Luther King Jr. Was no senator.

A

Yeah.

B

He was Malcolm X.

D

And people say he's going to run in 28 for president.

B

You'd be way more agitating if you're not in the system.

C

Oh, that's interesting. That's a good point. And he's like, seems like successful on his own.

B

Right.

C

Like before politics.

A

Yeah. He went to like mit.

C

Went to mit. Started and sold his own tech company independently wealthy.

B

Now he can really focus on agitating. Right. Like he was doing his job and being the agitator now just agitated agitating.

A

And you got the information because you were on the inside. Like you knew who the Epstein client list was. I heard him say he was going to say it before he left. Left, which would be fire. Yeah.

B

His final say. He was gonna drop the bottle.

A

Yeah.

B

Like chassis Handler was there. Yeah.

C

He said on his final day he's gonna like out it all. Because he's also in all these closed hearings, like hearing all the real, like, I think he went through all the unredacted files and all that stuff.

A

Yeah.

C

So it'd be interesting to see.

A

Light it up, man. Light it up.

C

Colbert officially had his final episode.

A

Did you watch?

B

No, not when it was ever.

A

Did you ever do a late night?

B

No.

A

Was that ever a dream of yours?

B

Yes.

A

Really?

B

I'd like my own late night show.

A

Oh, but that's different. Did you ever want to do like five minutes as a comedian?

B

Yeah.

A

And who was your goal growing up? Like, what did you want to do that five minutes on?

B

Well, I was watching, you know, like Johnny because I was just a kid in the.

A

How old are you watching Johnny?

B

We watch reruns. You don't watch reruns and stuff?

D

Reruns of Late Night?

A

No. Carson was a different thing. So I've watched. I've watched.

B

It's a phenomenon. Like you could do five minutes on his show and if he says, come over to the couch the next day, everything is different. Oh, really? Because there's no. There was four channels.

A

There was like 25 million people watching every episode.

B

Oh, wow.

A

I think when he got married, they filmed it or something like that. I think it got like 50 million people. And the last episode got 50 million people. That's like a quarter of the country at the time.

B

Yeah.

A

Like, these are insane numbers.

B

It's like that's like small super bowl numbers. But no, I wanted to do Fallon just so that I can Rock out with like the roots or something. It feels pretty inviting. I don't know.

A

You could sing too. Yeah.

B

Not now though.

A

Why would happen.

B

I just lost my voice yelling 13 shows.

A

Oh, not now. Meaning this day. Yeah, but like your vocal cords aren't up forever or nothing. No, I turned to rfk.

C

I saw some.

A

No, I saw a clip of you and you were singing and like you actually have a great voice.

B

Yeah, I grew up in. Did you grow up in a church Tenor?

A

Oh, wow.

B

Yeah, I could sing. I have two songs I put out.

A

No way.

B

Yeah, they're both about pretty much eating coochie. But one, one of them's got. I got features. One's got too short and zero from Texas. And then the other one has Ass Twister. And so I was like, I should keep going cuz it is possible to be a number one. You can make a number one.

D

I was just going to ask you, is this like fun comedic songs like Duvo like.

B

No, I'm talking about seriously eating coochie.

A

Nothing. Not.

B

See, like this is called Beat it Up.

C

Can't play that in church.

B

Beat up that Lord. Beat up that.

A

Beat up the devil.

B

But yeah. So the other one's called the Cookie Monster remix. But we don't have to make this about this, guys.

A

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B

I'm inspired by everybody coming up.

A

Everyone.

B

Yes.

A

There wasn't a single person that didn't inspire you.

B

I'm okay. But I find inspiration in that, too. Like, I, I honestly, with me owning the club and even running nights or whatever, like, I see people that have like that where the vices have taken over their brains, and I'm like, inspiration.

A

Yeah, don't do that.

B

So I will. Exactly.

A

But Duval did your club, right?

B

Yeah, two or three times.

A

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Duvall is a huge inspiration for me. Like, big OG for me. Like, he's another person and I should

B

have brought him up around win. Were you with him?

A

I mean, the Geico days, I've known do all forever.

B

Oh, facts.

A

Yeah.

B

So I, I like, I with him,

A

like, he was the guy to me that I saw doing comedy on the Internet. Like, Russ, Russ did the model, but he did comedy on the Internet.

B

He was like the soldier boy for comedy.

A

Yeah. I mean, like, he just knew audience and knew how to get things out to people, knew how to communicate with the audience constantly.

B

And still does.

A

Still does brilliantly.

B

I think he just throws a bunch of shit against the wall because he's just hiding having fun. And then I'm like every now and then, I don't know if I have anything to do with it or if he's already masterminded the but like, how he's sitting there squatting in front of that waterfall right now. And then like a couple months back, he just did one round and I was like, more of this, then. Throw your own camp flog now.

A

Yeah.

B

And now it looks like it's happening.

A

But he's been doing a Camp Duval for. For a while.

B

Yeah, I know, but it didn't feel like that.

A

Well, he didn't get that property until recently.

B

Right. But either way, I'm a fan of it. I'm a fan of. Of, you know, being your own boss. You know, I mean, he's. He's flying little. He has a little plane and all that stuff. Yeah, he flew to your show?

A

Yeah, he came when we were doing Jacksonville. Yeah, he came. But like, just his. His understanding of the game. Like, he may be even one of the smartest people I've ever met in terms of just, like, understanding human condition. Yes. And, like, pure absorption. Right. It's not like he got the chance to go to some fucking, like, fancy school where you just study it all day. Like, he literally. Literally watches people and, like, sees through them. What they actually want, no matter what they say, like, what they actually want. And he's just. Yeah, he's just a genius, man. He's just a genius.

B

Yeah. Oh, you remember this? Give me yours, too. And I call you instead of you, bitch. Cause who you think you just. Boo Boo written on my forehead. I done bought them drinks, bitch. You is my girlfriend. I don't want it here. She thought you just came out to have a nice time out and just.

A

Here.

C

What a ledge.

B

Genius. That's so funny. Yeah, he came twice. And what I thought was the most. He did something really dope, right? Because he came from Florida. He brought, like, Erica Dutchess nod. And I didn't realize that none of them had seen snow. So he got, like, a rental car and they drove to Mount Rainier.

A

I love it.

B

And it was like our. It was like spring or summer. And he posted a video of them throwing snowballs. I was like, where the fuck did he. Where did he go to find snow? He went to it. He went to the mountain. Like, actually white. Let's go to it.

C

Duvall can find snow anywhere. He figures it out.

A

He's like. He's also, like, the most traveled dude.

B

Very much so.

A

Like, he's everywhere before it's hot. Like, when he stops going, that's when it will get hot, right? It's. Yeah. Like, every vacation, he's always there before. And you can never, like, surprise him with a location.

B

Oh, yeah, I was there, and it was. They got some really good chicken wings.

A

That's the other thing. He eats fast food when it's whenever he travels.

B

Yeah.

A

And, like, we were doing, like, some mtv, because he can trust it.

C

Like.

A

And I'm like, we're in Germany, dude. Why don't we just go have some German food? He goes, man, I don't trust this. And I'm like, dude, we're not in Thailand. Like, this is Germany. Literally, everyone on the crew except him got sick.

B

See?

A

And he was like, at McDonald's, like, man, listen, I know I travel for you guys.

B

Yeah.

A

I know what happens out here.

B

Yeah, yeah.

A

But.

B

But what I thought was the dopest part of it wasn't that he just went and found snow. It's that I knew he was cultured enough to go look for it. He snowboards. No, it was that he wanted to show his openers that, like, he took a whole day spent. Whatever. Y' all get in the car. I want y'.

A

All.

B

Y' all gonna see what in Nod's country, like, God damn it. Just melting.

A

Godamn.

B

Look at my. My hands.

A

Change the color.

B

It was like a upward bound trip with inner city kids. So I watched the whole village. They came and they showed up to the club. Like, man, I ain't saying no. Like that, man. Do I real as, man. Anybody call my. I'mma kill him, man.

A

I remember I went to his place in the Bahamas, and he took me

B

to just, like, he has a place in the Bahamas?

A

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

B

That's where he flies back and forth,

A

and that's one of the places he'll

B

go back and forth.

A

And. And like. And first of all, it's funny, like, his level of clout in the Bahamas. Like, I came there with, like, cameras and shit, because I was doing this, like, little vlog with him, and I just wanted to, like, experience life with him, whatever. And they stopped us at customs, and they're like, you can't take cameras into the. Into the country. Like, you need, like, a permit for this. And I was like. I was like, man, I'm just going to hang out with little Duval. And I swear to God, the customs first was like, all right, all right.

B

Turn up. Only film him. Oh, yeah, this is it. Oh, that's. Wow. Where that water is. Yeah, dude, this is recent.

A

I was nard. You have to understand, like, he's taking me to places, and I'm like, there's no way I'm jumping in that pit. Yeah, this is this pit. He's like, yeah, just jump in.

B

You're going to be good. And he won't do it. First he wants you to trust his word. Like, if he jumped, he'd be like, all right, it. Let's go. I don't like how that rope looks. I'm just. Shane Gill rope, man. It's not too cold. It's 80 degrees.

A

How deep?

B

You got your shirt off. How deep is it? It's about 50ft. You're not going to touch the bottom.

A

I just want to put a little

C

more water,

A

Some color.

B

Hey, man, Nobody say your name. Somebody coming. Don't nobody know your white ass here on this black ass is no.

A

Say Chelsea. No one. Maybe they'll go first. Maybe we'll just make sure they don't.

B

Ain't nobody here but us.

A

It's not weird that nobody is here. It's not weird to nobody but you. Why are we the only ones in this beautiful, bro.

B

Come on. Because I don't let everybody know where it's at. This is hysterical.

A

We been ready. Yeah.

B

He never put a blunt down. Now you gotta climb the wall with crabs on it part.

A

He didn't tell me that at all.

B

What day of the week is this? It's a weekday, obviously. Yeah, we work, so.

A

But this is years ago, man.

B

Yeah, but he's got that part figured out like that right there. This is inspiration. I have. I have to have more fun. I am a.

A

He's gonna live his life.

B

I'm gonna work.

A

You're gonna work. You're gonna work. I'm the same way. But it's like, if you don't live, you got nothing to talk about.

B

About facts.

A

And, like, he will prioritize living his life and enjoying. And he'll just be on a dock on his property, smoking weed, looking at the stars, just enjoying getting emotional, looking at the stars. He had me just sitting there with him, looking at the stars.

B

I don't smoke. Maybe I should.

A

Like, he didn't either. You know, he didn't do it. He didn't smoke or drink or anything like that. I don't think he drinks anymore. But he didn't smoke. And then one day he's like, yeah, I think I'll smoke now. Really? It's the most fascinating.

B

But I've watched people do it. And then they get. They get off, off track.

A

You need to have discipline in terms of, like, what you're going to do.

B

Or you have to be the type person that can smoke and then still do stuff, which I think he is.

A

He is. I can't. I'm.

C

I'm.

B

I'm a. I'm just. I just. Vegetable.

C

You can do you smoke? You made a whole play out of a lamp?

A

Oh, yeah.

B

I got.

A

I took an edible when we were in Portland, and then I started recreating the Pixar theme with the lamp.

B

Okay.

A

You know how the.

B

But you made the lamp a character, too.

A

The lamp was the character in Pixar, and I thought it was the funniest ever.

B

I literally.

A

I was like, I think I got five new minutes, bro. And then the next day, they showed

B

me a video of me, and I

A

was like, man, I'm like, I am the most. I could never do again.

D

Oh, I was.

B

So I wondered. People tell me it matters which one you do. Right? Like, they say, end a couch.

A

Yeah. You know, I'm always in the couch. I never smoke weed.

B

And I got energy. Yeah. One time I did a sativa and I was creative, but everything that I made up was, like, trash. Yeah. But it was hilarious in it, so I understand.

A

Yeah.

B

But there's people that are just, like, always. They're always on it always. And I just can't. Like, my uncle's like that. He's. I. My entire life, I've never seen him sober.

A

You're saying, like, he's. He can still be functional.

B

And he owns a landscape, an architect company, like, but I've literally never seen him not high. He's always been high.

A

I mean, that is the type of company to own if you're. If you like weed.

B

Yeah. He's out there pushing the mower straight up. But he still has to negotiate and go get paid and do all the things and run a business. But I've just. I've been. I'm telling you, my whole life. I'm really kind of having an epiphany right now. I've never seen Dennis not high.

A

Wow, bro. You got to do a weekend with Duval in the Bahamas, man.

B

Really?

A

It's weird to say, but it's just like, he's like. He's like a Sherpa in a way. Like, you just talk to him for, like, two hours, and your mind will be fucking blown.

C

Just a wise guru.

A

Also, like, no judgment, like, anything that you think. Yeah. There's not this. You know, some people, like, kind of, like, critical or judging. Yeah. He will assess it through you being honest about that feeling. And then you feel incredibly comfortable sharing because you're not worried about being judged for this thing that you're feeling.

B

Right.

A

Like, he might disagree there. He'll be like, ah, that's from this. But he won't be like, you're bad because of that, I think if you

B

say certain things, he might be like, I can't go for that. He absolutely would. No, but I, I, I like Lil Duvall. He's one of the people. That's what I'm saying. There's inspiration everywhere. Like, but what was the trip? And I really wanted to know, like, where did. Because if. Because Matt just was like, get on TikTok. Yeah. People will write off whatever I've done and be like, he must have sat you down and gave you the keys to the city. Now you gotta do the keys. I had to literally figure out what the hell was going on in the app.

A

Absolutely.

B

But for him, I saw it on a post recently where he was like, yeah, shout out. It was. Cause of the show.

A

Boom. Yeah. Yeah.

B

So I wanted to know what it was, and I wanted to. Russ's was or is Russ our.

A

He might be the.

B

He might think Russ is the pure source.

A

He could be the pure source.

B

Independence. So long.

A

Someone got in to inspire him. You know, Someone's got inspired. Everybody's gonna have an inspiration. You know what I mean? Like, somebody inspired Steve Jobs.

B

There's somebody. That's the original thing.

A

Adam, probably Eve was tripping, man. Like, he didn't have the discipline, bro. You know what I mean? Like, Adam was locked. Adam was happy. Adam was living life. Eve needed more.

B

He was Duval.

A

He was Duval. We're Eve. We were working seven days a week.

B

But I think the creativity, like, there is somebody that, you know, I mean, like, even if you trace the Steve Jobs things, like, you can be as motivated as you want or inspired by Steve Jobs, but if you can't code, you're just gonna be wearing black V necks. Like, what is the thing that inspires you about. Where did Russia get the. Like, you were like, I'm gonna put comedy online, and I'm gonna do it at this frequency, and I'm going to. Like, I'm. I'm gonna be. I'm gonna care. I'm gonna post material. I'm gonna post whatever I'm gonna post. If it's funny, it's going online. I'm not gonna hold back no more.

C

According to this article, I still hold a lot.

A

I had material because I would go. I was like a road dog. I would go to a new market every year, and I always wanted to do new.

B

Yes.

A

So, like, I had an hour or more of stuff I wasn't doing anymore because next time I go to Columbus, I don't want to give them the same show.

B

Right.

A

Because there might be 40 people there. That's good. Saw it. So I was able to put some stuff out. And then the reason I started doing more of the crowd work stuff was because I could generate. I can continue putting it out. I'm sure why you do it versus, you know, material, why everybody does it. And. But yeah, and then, like, volume is probably the game right now. For better or for worse.

B

I don't know. I think there's been a shift. Talk to me within the last 15 days.

A

Ooh, I like this.

B

I think that you can get more traction right now if you don't throw everything at the wall. If you throw the best moment and wait. Because if my thing is I want to put one to two videos out a day. The quality, like, it just is what it is now. If I hold and I go, okay, out of 13 shows in Brooklyn, give me the craziest two moments. And so then I just post once a week, like, the quality of that clip will go. I'm happy with the level of quality I'm hitting even at this quantity, but it's exponential. If I go, if I tell my whole team, we aren't pushing for one a day, what we'll get. If I go, just give me the best video for a week. And you can scrape everything from the last five months. They're coming back with monstrosities. Like, just. There's just been some moments. You know what I mean?

A

That's. That's what I think. That's what I think it's always been.

B

I don't. Because I went to TikTok and they're like, just keep. Just keep on pouncing.

A

Well, I think what happened with me when we blew up on TikTok, I had all these people on TikTok hadn't seen years of standup that was already on. Already on Instagram and on YouTube.

B

Right, right.

A

So then it got to flood TikTok. So we got to flood. Flood with heat.

B

But I'm doing Snapchat now.

A

Exactly.

B

Never been on there.

A

So it's like you get to flood with all your super A plus.

B

Yes.

C

And that stuff works cross platform because it's good.

B

Yeah, it's great regardless.

A

And old even work, man. I posted some clip randomly that was just old recently, and it just went crazy.

B

Same thing happened to me, but it was the Brooklyn Improv just took a clip. They liked collab me on it, and it went nuts again because great shit

A

works and great shit will cut through when there's a lot of slop out there.

B

Two events about this.

A

Talk to me.

B

The Blues Clues. You know what I'm talking about?

A

No.

C

Like, I know the show.

B

Okay. Yeah. So. But what people don't realize about the show because we're adults and we just put it on and walk out the room is that they play the same episode all week long.

A

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

B

Every episode.

A

And the kids, really.

B

The kids actually, like, so by. Like, by Friday, I think it was in a Malcolm Gladwell book. I'm not. So I don't want to act like this. I'm psyched. But anyway, so by Friday, yeah, the kids are literally standing in front of the TV reciting episode with. And we were watching, like, what do you mean? Where's the iron? It's right. But the kids are like, on Monday, they can't even see it. Tuesday, they. It's going to be on this side of the screen by Wednesday. They're up touching the screen, pointing. By Thursday, they're like. They're yelling about. Bother introducing the segment.

A

You got kids.

B

No, put it on. Not in them.

A

You gave you what?

B

Put it on them, not in them. Go ahead.

A

New song coming soon. No, the. What happens is, like, when you read a kid a book, like, they're, like, getting used to the book. It's. Books are like music to them. Or TV shows are like music. They want to hear it more.

B

Right?

A

With us, I think our brains are so developed, like, after you read it once, you're like, I don't need to read this again. I've already digested it. I'm with you on this. But like, so blue schools figured that out with kids. They're like, yo, we don't got to need a new one every. They actually prefer to milk that the whole week. It will drive parents. Parents crazy. But the kids will like it.

B

But I think the familiarity.

A

The familiarity.

B

But so also I notice if I'm in a movie, the scene that people laugh the hardest at is the one that was in the trailer. It's obnoxious. I'm like, we saw that for four months. Why are you.

A

But that's why they put in the

B

trailer, which I get. But it's not that they're not laughing because they haven't seen it before. They're laughing because, like, oh, there's a familiarity with it. What do you mean, you people. I mean, the Tropic Thunder. Like, we get. We saw that for six months, then went to the theater, then the moment happened, and you laughing like, oh, oh, that's from the. Oh, that's from the. It's a nostalgia.

A

It becomes music facts.

B

Yeah, but what if we shifted and did that with. If I. All right, this week's gonna be this bit, and I'm gonna drop that every day, bro.

A

This has happened, like, and I mean,

C

that's like the TikTok music play, which is like, hey, let me just drop the same part of the song over and over three times times a day, with maybe a different voiceover, maybe a different thing. Like, they changed the visual stimulus, but it's the same part of the song.

B

There's a girl that blew a song up by playing it. She played it, she posted. I think she said 220, 200 times straight.

C

This is what.

A

Yeah, this is what.

B

And then like, the 1700 one was the one that went viral. It just caught the bright wave.

A

Yeah. Yep. So, yeah, so there is a familiarity aspect.

C

Now, according to Russ, he says he dropped 11 projects, none of them broke through, and all of his albums were getting buried. But then he saw people that had singles that would catch on.

B

Yeah.

C

And so he was like, let me just drop singles every single week. And then I'm just going to drop single after single. And according to him, that was the thing that inspired the idea.

A

I also think when you reach critical mass, there is an important play which is like, now less can be more. So when you reach the point, like, you're already beyond it. I think that less but high quality stuff or incredibly random thing, like you said, there's something to happen with like an amputee in a crowd or whatever like that. It's just such a random concoction of events that it's like really special. And I think that that does work because now you don't need to, like, introduce yourself to people as much now it's a reminder and you're bringing new people in with heat.

B

Right. But I'm facts. But I'm looking at the five people I see posting the most content right now, and I think that there is schools of on it. Like, I think. I think. I think maybe Ali posts once every two week, a standup bit. I think Mojo's doing one a week and here I am throwing like five a day. Just.

A

Yeah. So maybe there's a version where it's just like, well, what is the. What is the tip of the spear?

B

Well, I think there's. It's a risk to me, I think, because somebody can be like, let's see what all the hype is. I'm, you know, crowd work, whatever. Let me check out Najax and Then they see one that's not a banger banger. They're like, oh, that's not even. You know what I'm saying? Did you just hurt a ticket or help A ticket. But I'm confident that, like, one will get you to go like that and see the next one.

A

Well, that's the other thing. It's like more shots on goal is more goals.

B

Right.

A

And it's only going to take one of those to go crazy. And then you can also let the algorithm decide, too, which is like, if it's not that good, not that many people see it. If it's crazy, a lot of people will see it. So there is that version of it.

B

I can archive it too. Like, it's not ready. Not the one I want out there. But you know what I used to be able to do, which I think we all came in. Like, once you get a feel for the audience, whatever, you. You'd be like, we got a banger.

A

Yeah.

B

Oh, we got a banger. You know, like, wait till we post this one with this lady where she. Whatever. Right?

A

Yeah.

B

And you would post it and then it would do what you thought it would do. Yeah. And now there's a disconnect. Now you're like, I know I got a banger. You put that one on there and that it might. It might just, like, barely hit. And then you're like, whatever, man. Just do post the next video and then that one go crazy.

A

Yeah.

B

I'm in the comments of one going crazy. But look at the last one.

C

Y' all got it wrong.

B

They didn't get this one right.

A

And that's where it's like putting out the things that you're proud of or you think are really fun or you think are really interesting. Ideally can be the thing that offers a satisfaction.

B

But I almost want to, like, keep the. This is what I'm thinking. I want to keep the consistency that we're at, because that's what I pay people to do. But I think, like, putting, like, a gold ribbon on ones that I'm like, this one's little nutty. I think might be something. Maybe it's like a watermark or something.

C

Maybe you kind of hedge it or

A

it's a specific day where you drop, like, Friday is. This is the clip of the week.

B

Right. And then they have all week to whatever to get it.

A

Yeah, yeah.

D

And I saw you on your YouTube channel, you have, like, comedy just going for 24 7. When you start that.

B

Yeah. That's a new thing. You like that yeah, yeah. Do you know what you're talking about? Yeah, yeah. They just hit me up, the people that do it. And I was like, who do you already work with? And they were like, we work with Ali Siddiq. And I was like, what does he play on there? Cause he has so many specials.

A

You just run the old stuff. You treat it like tv.

B

Yeah, but what I didn't like. Cause Ali's long form. He's storytelling.

A

Yeah, yeah.

B

So I feel like my. Because I'm such quick clip. It's like Chive tv. You know, you go sit in the bar, you see the guys, like, all the little tricks and all that. Like, when you go the bar and you watch that, the blooper reels. That's. That's Chive tv. So I feel like if I have a ton of four minute snippets, like, I would be perfect in the live space. Can you go to my YouTube real quick?

D

It's.

B

It's up right now. I was like, I know it's live. I mean, we. We basically talk all my crowd work joints. It's been maybe three months.

A

It's also a good, like, monetization thing. It's like you get in ads throughout the.

B

Well, we'll see. But I mean, it's just always on you coming out and then they're commenting, they're going. What I'm trying to get them to do is enable super chat over there so that. You know what I'm saying? Which is where I thought the green comments were. I opened it one day and was like, you mean they all pay me a dollar, but they're in there talking. I don't know. Does this. How many people are in there right now?

A

Look at this. Nice white audience shot.

B

200 no lives.

C

214 people watching right now.

B

That's crazy. Crazy. Wow. Imagine if 214 people were sitting right there. Like, you're like, oh, this podcast is pet. But there's. There you go. But look at that. I don't know where we are, but that's my crowd makeup.

A

Yeah.

C

Yeah. Wow.

B

It's fascinating.

C

Okay, you want to rip through a couple more films?

A

Yeah, let's do it.

C

All right. This is. I mean, white people doing white, but I don't know if you saw this. This is a wild clip. This is a woman in Austria paragliding.

B

I think I did. If a plane hits it, she's flying around. Oh, yeah, I just see that. Yeah. It's so crazy. Even though I said that, it's still crazy.

C

Pulls out the emergency parachute?

B

Yeah,

C

the emergency parachute's not amazing, is it?

A

Ripped up the first one?

B

Yeah.

A

No, this the emergency.

B

Oh, no, the first one is the white one.

A

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my God, bro. That's terrifying.

C

And then gotta figure out how to land with the emergency one. Oh, your emergency shoot's not gonna slip you down as fast.

A

So you.

C

You're just landing.

B

How old is she?

A

Hard.

B

She's not a young lady, huh?

A

Yeah, This is how married I am. I'm enjoying those moans.

B

I was going say she's not making enough noise. I would have been like,

A

survival.

B

So those grunts did something.

A

Oh, yeah. I got across my leg.

B

Got to re right away.

A

Like she.

C

She didn't fake that too.

A

Her ass hurts for real.

B

She's going feel that for a while.

A

Wow.

C

That's what it sounds like.

A

All right, one more, then we get out of here. My man. Yo, that's crazy.

C

Crazy, right?

A

Yeah.

C

And she survived. And then the people in the plane were apparently fine. And they're like doing an investigation on how the that happens.

A

I mean, there's a lot of space up there to get in an accident.

D

That's what I'm saying.

B

That's intentional.

C

This was a clip that was.

B

It also shows you how fast planes are going.

A

Sure, bro. This guy cracks me up, man. What's the name of this? There's this name Derek. Is it Derek something?

C

Let me find it. What's his name?

B

David.

C

David.

A

David. Underscore comedy. So pause, pause.

B

So what he does is he could

A

do every accent, pretty much. And he can also like fake speak the language, but he's not saying anything.

B

Okay.

A

And he walks up to people and then he. He starts fake speaking their language.

B

Right?

A

And then that's the video. And he does it with every walk up to Chinese people. He fake speak Chinese.

B

Ain't nobody hit him.

A

Not cuz they're trying to figure it out. They see a white guy speaking Chinese,

B

so they're like, here enough to be like, I think you'll see it.

A

Run it from the beginning. Shirt total shirt.

D

Shirt.

B

Cold. Shirt cool. Shirts cold. That's the whole. My man gave up and just started eating.

A

Okay.

C

I mean, we got a couple other random feelings. No facts. This is mean. This FA sent this one in cuz he wanted you to see it.

A

Okay.

C

It's a woman who's at an event and sells feet juice. So she has a sign that says, feed juice for sale. She dunks her feet in here, and then people drink up the feet juice.

A

N. This. This Gives off a bad name. Bro, this is.

C

Wait, what do you mean us?

A

Just the people who enjoy feet. Are you a.

D

A foot guy? He's one of those.

B

I thought I was until I saw that. Yeah, this gives perspective.

C

I mean, you're.

B

What? When you say you're a feet guy, what's that mean?

A

I don't like to do anything to them, but I just think they got to look nice.

B

Yeah, for sure.

A

Like, I don't want to be able to grow up feet.

D

Like, back in the day.

B

Yeah, but this is. This is a lot.

A

No, this is weird, but let's just

D

say you saw, like, a very attractive woman and she had bad feet.

B

You.

D

You not smashing.

A

Nah.

B

Boomerang.

A

Boomerang. Al, does that mean you smash? It's the movie.

B

Eddie Murphy, Robert Gibbons, and she's crazy bad. And then he pulls back the covers, and her feet are just like, can't

D

do it and you won't do it.

C

Yeah.

B

No, that wasn't. That wasn't her feet. That was Iva lashawn's. No. Either way. A beautiful woman. He laid in the bed, and he was literally like, let me see.

A

To cover.

B

And when they pulled back, she had, like, your feet. And so then he sneaks out of the bed and out of the room.

D

But that's what you would do.

B

Yeah, I want attractive feet.

A

No, I still.

B

You one of them brothers that's like,

A

you ain't smashing your feet. Like, what if I want to speak?

B

I ain't touching the feet. What if I do want to smash?

D

No, I'm not touching the feet. Like, if the body's right. Like, that's, you know, if everything else is for wifey.

A

For wifey. Or just, like, for one night, obviously. Who cares?

D

Like, no, you. One night. If they had bad feet, you wouldn't.

A

Even when I was in Argentina, I was looking for a girl who's missing a finger. Like, if you're there for just, like, an amount of time. No, but, like, if. If it's wifey, like, obviously. Oh, you're gonna have to look at those things all the time.

B

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

D

Okay. We on the same page.

C

This guy brought up an interesting hypothetical. Would you rather be a five two white dude or a six' five black dude? O, five' two is pretty short.

A

Yeah. Six' five black dude. Yeah. Yeah. What would you rather be, Nate?

B

Never thought of that. I don't know. The life of a five' two white guy. What is it just rejection everywhere.

C

Yeah, but you might not get harassed by police as much you know what I mean?

B

You won't.

C

Yeah, you might.

B

You might. You are the police. I'm kind of liking this. This journey I'm on here and what I got. But so it is interesting is height

C

isn't worse than racism.

B

No.

A

Yeah.

B

Because. No.

C

Well, you'd rather be a 6, 5 black dude.

B

I can't tell how tall he is in his car.

A

Fair. Yeah.

B

You know what I'm saying? Can't tell. He can wear heels.

C

Yeah, that's true.

A

Put on a. You can't wear heels as a guy, man.

B

No. They got those healed boots.

C

Yeah.

A

Who would ever do that, you know,

B

give you a little extra, you know. There nothing wrong with that.

A

Five two is crazy.

C

Five two is.

A

There is a. There is a number where you do it, but, like, 52 is crazy.

B

All right. Would you like to be a five' two black guy? That you can't be Duval or Kevin Hart?

A

Five, two. Hold on. Five' two black guy or five' two white guy?

B

Nope, just a 52 black guy. And there's no. Or just the third one.

A

The third one is. So I could be a 65 black guy.

B

Yeah.

A

A 52 white guy or a 52

B

black guy or seven foot Asian.

C

That's fire. Seven foot Asian is kind of lit, to be honest with you.

A

7 foot Asian. 100%.

B

Yeah. Yeah. Even though you have the smallest dick out of everybody.

A

But it's. But it's seven foot. It's Asia for Asian dick.

B

No, it's small. It's small for Asian dick. It doesn't have a downside. Why wouldn't we all want to be the gigantic Asian man?

A

There's no bad gigantic Asian guy with a pretty big dick. But it's not big for seven feet. But it's pretty big.

B

No micropenia. This is this micropenis you're talking about.

A

Microphone.

B

Fuck it.

A

Yeah.

B

You're a gigantic Asian.

A

Yeah.

B

Pinky toe.

D

Nah.

A

I love feet. I love feet, dude. That's a tough one for me. Seems like I just got more foot. Yeah, he's got an extra toe. That's kind of nice. No. I don't know. I can't do micropenis, even if you're seven foot Asian, cuz. What's the point?

C

But you go to the league if you're a 7 foot Asian and you sell your jersey all over China.

A

Yeah, but you got a micropenis now. That's crazy. Now what would you do? You got to be five, two black dude, right?

B

Yeah.

C

But a massive hog. That's not Bad.

B

That's what they keep saying about Kevin Hart. Yeah. That's what I. For the whole week of the roast.

A

Yeah.

B

I kept seeing all these videos by. What's the white guy that paints his nails? That was on the roast.

A

Big J Okerson.

B

Big J Ohon kept on dropping videos about how big Kevin's dick is.

A

Really? Yeah.

B

And I just. All week, I was like, hey, yo, yo, come on. Come on. You got a different algorithm.

A

What's your algorithm, man? I didn't see any of those videos.

B

I don't know.

A

I just saw Chelsea Handler whining.

B

I thought as much stuff about roast as I could see.

A

Yeah.

B

And so I just got. I was like. And that's enough. I saw everything.

C

Now, on the topic of uncomfortable hypotheticals, and this might maybe even be a good place to.

A

Okay.

C

To really try to focus in our energy.

A

Okay. Okay, Go.

C

This is what people are talking about. Outside the Knicks stadium with your girl. For the Knicks to win it all, I would let Jalen Brunson see my

A

girl, my mother, my sister.

B

I let him sleep with anyone he asked for.

A

Would you let Jaylen Brunson sleep with your girl? For the Knicks to win it all?

B

For the Knicks to win it all?

A

Yes. Would you let Jayleen Brunson sleep with your girl? For the Knicks to win it all,

B

I let him sleep with his girl.

C

So this is the question.

A

Nah, nah.

C

For the Knicks to win it all, bro.

A

Nah. I'm going 42 years without it, man.

B

It's not even.

A

I used to not have a championship. I got too used to.

B

I'm.

A

I'm unfortunately comfortable with it. Sleep with your girl. It's crazy. There was one where a dude says that he would take strokes, he would take a backstroke. He would take that black dude, by the way. This is progress. Nah.

D

But he's from Jersey.

A

What does that have to do with anything?

B

There's no way.

A

What does that got to do with that? You telling me Jersey's more progressive than New York?

D

There's just no way in New York.

B

Are they gayer in New Jersey?

A

Nah, they're way gayer here.

D

A black New Yorker would not say that.

B

So he's not.

A

Would not claim nothing. I think New Yorker's gay, But a

B

black New Yorker joker did say it.

A

He did.

B

Nah.

A

You just put it on Jersey. Yeah, but no, I think Jersey's, like, a few years back. I don't know if they're playing with the gay fun yet thing. Nah. New York, New York is there. White boy fun has crossed into Black culture in New York.

B

All right.

D

How do you feel about white boy fun? You know how they all. Addiction.

B

You gotta get used to it.

D

But, like, who.

A

Who taught you about it?

B

I'm from Washington State, so the whites.

A

The whites introduced.

B

Our football team was nut check.

A

Really?

B

Yeah. Like, they were like, run down to the goal post and come back. And on the way back, if somebody's bushy, like, the coach would see it, like, stop. Like, here's the whole thing. Stop nut checking and run and play.

A

So did you grow up?

B

The quarterback was nut checking the center like he couldn't even run a play.

A

Hold on. So did you grow up with it and it was normal, or did you get introduced to it a certain point in time and then you had to acclimate?

B

It was just normal. From what I remember, like middle school, high school, like, people would just be playing too much now. Did you.

A

Did you ever play with other black dudes that didn't know anything about it

B

and they're like, yo, what is going on? Nah, As a matter of fact, I remember very distinctively big Irish J, a comedian from Boston that's in. In Vegas now. He still plays like that to this day. And he'll get you. Like, you're like, oh, my God. Fucking. My left nut only is ridiculous. But he came to something where it was like, it was like a pretty urban function. And he was in there on that same energy. And I was like, man, seriously, like, this is not. We're not doing that today. Like, full on truth, no nut checks. Truth. Call it truth. This is a death jam after party. Please. I got on a tux. He's like, this is the best time. I know the shiny right now. I'm like, jay, I swear to God, if you hit me in my nuts in this goddamn party. I'm like, you can't be friends anymore. He's a kid. No, no, it's cool. School J, they don't care.

A

No, they don't. Okay, before we go, I want you to let us know about the. The thing that you were recreating.

B

Oh, Comedy Jam.

A

Yes.

B

Yeah, so I did. I did Comedy Jam because I feel like it was needed. It's been a very, very long time since we've had a structured show of micro sets. And So I brought 54 to 56. I'm not sure. Something like that. Like 54 comics. Flew them out to the club, spent about $160,000.

A

And you did it all at your club?

B

I did. Wow. Yeah. So it's intimate and it's there and nobody had a bad set. And it sounds great, looks great. It's the same team that I did my Netflix special with. So there's a lot of people that should see some, you know, a needle push, even if it's just to give them some phenomenal content.

A

Where are you putting it out?

B

What's your.

A

Your channel?

B

Yeah, my team is actively trying to sell it right now, but I was like, no matter what you do, this is going to be on my YouTube.

A

Yeah.

B

So I don't know how, I don't know what that handshake looks like, but it's going to have to like, maybe it drops simultaneously or the TV one says, go look at this or something. But it's going on. My YouTube started with that intention. So it's called the Super Funny Comedy Jam and it's starring 54 of the funniest comedians in the country.

A

Who are some names?

B

Smokey Suarez.

A

Ah, Smokey.

B

Rob Stapleton.

A

Rob

B

Tony Roberts.

A

Yeah,

B

I mean, names. I think people would. I mean, Ryan Davis did it.

A

Yo, Ryan's great, man. Shout Out

B

Reg that just did was in the finals on Funny AF Black. Ron Just Niche. Clayton Thomas. Martin. Martin Amin. Martin Amini. This really funny white dude I seen when I did a showcase in D.C. named Matt Something. He was really good. I have to look it up and maybe I'll shoot it to you so you can. Like, the guy's name was. But no, it was just great. Like, we did four comics. Three or four comics per episode.

A

How many shows did you do to film everything. Wow.

B

I wanted to do 10. And then I was like, I'll do an 11th because I just couldn't keep no to certain people. And so then I was like, all right, well, the 11th one will be my pilot if I'm going to take it out or whatever. And then my team was like, no, just go out with 11 of them.

A

Yeah, why not? More is better.

B

We'll see. So we'll see. I mean, we're going to see if. If there's a network that wants it or whatever. But everyone right now keeps on saying like, oh, no, we are. We don't want that format for comedy.

A

Right.

B

I'm like, well, it's in the top five. Top is the top five on Netflix right now.

A

It seems to be doing all right.

B

Yeah, you don't want short form comedy.

A

Ye.

B

Wow. But I just remember when we came up, you could watch Comic View Premium Blend. You could watch Def Jam. You could watch. There was always something where you could see and then Just for the last 25 years, there hasn't been anything. Really?

A

Yeah.

B

Nothing that stuck. Like Def Jam had a chance, but then Russell got to me too. So then they swept it under the rug. And so it's. That's the, that's the, that's the itch that gets scratched with this. And so I'm hoping that it moves the needle for some people at least it puts them in a conversation to be doing clubs to make some. To possibly, you know, some money on the table. Yeah, that's it. And so Super Funny Comedy Jam. And if anybody's interested in the comedy club, it's Nate Jackson. Super Funny Comedy club in Tacoma, Washington. Biggest black owned comedy club in the country.

A

Shout outs to you.

B

Yeah, Tommy Davidson's coming here soon.

A

Oh, legend.

B

Yeah, we have a ton. We have a ton. Can you click view all at the bottom? Yeah. So let's see who we got coming so people can be proud of us. Afion tricks from funny af Tiffany Haddish. Tim Tropeshire. Funny Marco.

A

Oh, great.

B

Dude. Got RIP Michaels. Bill Bellamy.

A

Bill Bellamy.

B

And then, and then so, so we do the opposite. So go down. Bam. Rosebud Baker.

A

So you go, let's go.

B

Once a month we have. And that will pay the bills for all the blacks to come. No, I want. And to be honest with you, I want the most diverse lineup possible. And when I say diversity, I don't mean hella black people. I mean I want I. Everyone we can see on the screen. That should be it. I don't. We don't need this many. It looks like an NAACP meeting. Like it's hella black people. But the agents assume because it's black owned, those are the clients that they read off to me. And then people just don't take it serious because it's not a big chain club. Our text message from six years ago has an offer in it from me to him.

A

Great offer. Really great offer. Great offer.

B

I came strong.

A

Very strong.

C

You sure?

A

Strong as you can come from Jersey.

B

I don't want to put.

A

I don't want to put it out there because he might have less strong offers.

B

You can say I'm full transparency. I talk money. Yeah, yeah, you're gonna. It would sell out like that. Come work on some shit. Yeah, it's nothing. You could hang out with good people.

A

I definitely want to come see some

B

snow if you want.

A

Hell yeah.

C

Oh, hell yeah.

B

I'm saying. But yeah. And those kind of offers are out for particular people that I'm a fan of or inspired by and we've had a few, but then other, you know. Yeah. So just I don't know what it takes to crack through the noise of all the different places people can perform and all that stuff, but we do well, so. But I just want to see more people that I'm already like. Like, I think people will get it. Like, Dave was at the Netflix brunch, and he was like, I'm gonna come do your clap, man. Oh, that'd be far, I think. Yeah. But I also think, like, it makes people go, oh, there's a thing.

A

Exactly.

B

You see what I'm saying? Yeah. So it's exciting stuff. I appreciate you having me here, Nate Jackson, man.

A

Everybody go check out Nate. Thank you so much, bro.

C

Appreciate you, man.

B

Thank you, brother.