A

You're listening to an Airwave media podcast.

B

Hello, festival goers festooned with festal fezes, festering and festivus festivities. Welcome to Good Job Brain, your weekly quiz show and offbeat trivia podcast. This is episode 305. And of course I'm your humble host, Karen. And we are your happy and harmonious hosts hoping to harp about happenings and hullabaloo.

C

I'm Colin.

A

And I'm Chris. Hi. Hello. That's my alliteration.

C

Hey. Hey. How's it. Oh, before we get into the show, Karen, I have an urgent. Well, not urgent, but I have an update at least on. On a fact that came up on. On an episode of the show not too long ago. There is a new world's longest flight. New longest air route, the longest flight in the world. Commercial passenger flight. It is China Eastern Airlines has unveiled the just absolutely punishingly long 25 hour oh my God minute. This is a flight that has a yesterday. Like you could be on the flight and like talk to your seatmate and be like, hey, remember yesterday when we got on the plane? Like not like a whole, like little funny time zone depending on when it takes off.

A

I mean, you could be on that flight for three days total.

C

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

B

From where to where?

C

You start in Shanghai, you end up in Buenos Aires. Yeah. And it passes the previous record holders, you know, which were only a paltry 19 hours or so.

B

Which way are they going? Do they pass through Africa or are they passing through Pacific Ocean?

C

It passes through the Pacific. Through New Zealand. Yes.

A

Okay. How many meals do they serve?

C

Oh, that is a great question.

A

Because like when I'm on a flight to Japan and it's like 12 hours, it's like you get on, they serve you a meal and then there's like a snack at some point and then there's like a bar where you could go and get more food and then it's like breakfast. So that's like two like this. This strikes me as like a three, three, four. A three meer. With, with then snacks in the middle and like stuff to break it up.

C

So I guess they, when they stop over in New Zealand, like to refuel, they also rotate the crew. Like it's that long, you know, which, which makes sense.

B

Have to stop.

C

They stop. You don't. You don't get off, I guess.

B

Oh, they land. So they still have to.

A

They land. Nobody deplanes or anything, but they have to stop.

C

Okay, you think that's a cheat because it's, it's that's a layover.

A

I think that's a little bit different than a direct air for that entire.

B

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

A

Look, that's still a lot of flying. And also, you don't, you don't and can't get off the plane.

B

Yeah, that's right. Oh, also, more news end of the season. Lots of, lots of news items. Pantone's color of the year.

C

Pantone, yeah.

B

Revealed today. You'll see it all over your algorithm. You bet. It's going to show up at Pub Trivia in the next coming weeks. So know this. The Pantone color of the year is cloud dancer, which is a fancy way of describing a white color.

A

It is very white. It is pretty white.

B

It's not eggshell, it's not cream. It's like white.

C

You guys, I mean, have been in the same position I have, right, where you're doing work on the house and you're looking at the swatches of the 19 different whites and you're just having the conversation with your partner, like, do we want arctic frost or do we want snowy morning? You know, and you're like trying to. I don't know, they look so similar. Right, Cloud. Cloud Dancer, right, Karen? Is that Cloud Dancer? Cloud Dancer. Okay.

A

Is it more like a Kleenex or more like a Charmin?

B

Like Colin said before, not every year can be a cheery teal or an orange. This year it's a. It's a. It's white. It's white. All right, and without further ado, this is a trivia podcast. Let's jump into our first general trivia segment, Pop Quiz Hotshot. Actually, I do have further ado, but it's.

A

Yeah.

B

So listeners of the show, if you listen to this show on Spotify, you probably received your Spotify wrapped kind of a summary of your Spotify activity of the year. You know, what artists you listen to, what are your top albums, and includes podcasts. So good job, brain listeners. You got a thank you video from me. And in that video, very, very short, I did something which I've been dying to do for years and years and years is I finally weighed our quiz card box, our mythical box of trivia cards that we pull out from. We've been pulling out from for over 10 years. Do you guys want to venture a guess?

C

I will guess. 18 pounds.

A

Is it a medium priority male flat rate box or a large?

B

It's a medium.

A

It's a medium. I would.

C

Man, that's smaller than I thought. The box.

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£18.

B

It is. £12.45.

C

Okay, that's a lot of cards.

B

Here's two cards out of those.

A

£12 making a dent.

B

Random Trivial Pursuit cards. You guys have your barnyard buzzers. Let's answer some questions. Here we go. I got Trivial Pursuit. Genus four. Here we go. People and places. Blue wedge. What's the Greenwich meantime? Once each day when all of the globe shares the same date.

C

Ah, so many. They're looking for like. Like, huh. Plus zero or. Oh, okay. Oh, I see.

B

What time of day zones are in the same day?

A

Oh, geez.

B

Colin.

C

The midnight or zero?

B

Incorrect.

A

No, because then some would be before that if that's meantime. So how about new?

C

Oh, okay. Meantime.

B

Yes.

C

Good logic reasoning. It is noon.

B

All right. Pink wedge for arts and entertainment. What did Andy Warhol say was his favorite kind of music? Chris?

A

Pop music.

B

Oh, pop art. Pop music. No, this was.

C

Is it a jokey answer, Karen, or is it real answer.

B

I mean, I'm being weird answer.

C

Okay, okay.

A

All right.

B

It is Muzak.

A

All right.

C

Okay. That's a very Andy Warhol answer.

A

Yeah, sure, sure.

B

Here we go. Yellow wedge for history. What type of letters did lovelorn U.S. troops dread receiving in World War II?

A

Ooh.

C

Colin, are they looking for a Dear John letter?

B

They're looking for Dear John.

C

Dear John.

B

Shorthand for I'm breaking up with you.

C

Right. You're too far away. Sorry.

B

Better than ghosting.

A

Yeah.

B

Brown wedge for Science and Nature. What viral disease is the main killer among the six diseases targeted by the World Health Organization as preventable by vaccine?

C

Will you read that again?

B

So what viral disease is the main killer among the six diseases targeted by the World Health Organization as preventable by vaccine? So, out of all the diseases that can be helped by vaccine, which is number one main killer?

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The number one killer, Chris. Measles.

B

Measles. Measles.

C

Okay.

B

Green wedge, Sports and Leisure. What? Two teams won four Stanley Cups each in 1980s.

C

Oh, man. Okay. 1980. All right, all right. Let's. Let's work this together.

A

Yes. Colin, that's great. Let's team up on this.

C

Okay. All right. So the 80s. 80s, right. Wayne Gretzky here. Right. So that's. It's Gretzky's era. He played for the Oilers, I think. Okay. All right, all right. No, I know the Rangers won, but I. I don't think they won four. Gretzky moved to the Kings. Chris, you got anything here?

A

Colin? I forget the question.

B

It is the New York Islander.

C

Islanders. Okay. All right. We got halfway there, Chris. Together. We got together.

A

We did together. We did.

B

Orange wedge. Last question on this card. Wild Card. What lawyer wears a trademark fringed buckskin coat and black turtleneck sweater?

A

Wow.

C

What category?

B

Like Wild Card.

C

Yeah, I know. This is like a. Like a TV lawyer.

A

I don't know what lawyer.

C

Okay.

B

I don't know if it's real or fictional.

C

One more time.

B

What lawyer wears a trademark fringed buckskin coat and black turtleneck sweater?

C

I'm trying to picture this black turtleneck fringe, buckskin coat, man.

B

His name is Jerry Spence.

C

Oh, okay.

B

Is it like Perry Mason where it's a fiction?

C

No, no, he's. He's real. I mean. Yeah, I remember. I mean, you know, you would see him on, like, big trials, you know, on CNN and stuff.

A

Wow.

B

All right, let's move into something more current, maybe. Hopefully. All right, our second card. Music singles. Music Singles. Here we go. Blue wedge. What video game system does American hi fi mention in their song Flavor of the Week?

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Oh, I have no idea.

C

Oh, go for it.

A

The Atari 2600.

B

You know what? I. I take a problem with this card.

A

Yeah.

B

Because what they listed is not technically.

A

A video game system. Is it like a Nintendo?

B

Yes, it is Nintendo. Nintendo doesn't say which Nintendo game system.

A

Right.

B

Can't fool us. TR Pursuit Music Singles Pink Wedge. What Alicia Keys song from her debut album helped the New artist earn 5 Grammys? Breakout song by Alicia Keys, Chris Fallen. It is Fallen. Yellow Edge. What lip syncing duo was the first.

A

Artist forced to forfeit their Grammy?

C

Come on, everybody. Millie.

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Millie Vanilly. And honestly, though, I mean, shouldn't they. Doesn't that. Shouldn't the Grammy just be shared by all of people who worked on that album?

B

That's true.

C

Yeah.

B

Yeah. Blame it on the Rain. Purple wedge. What 1980s pop band fused electronica dance and misery to create tunes such as Blue Monday? Colin, give it to me.

C

A new order.

B

Yeah, new order. Green wedge. What Grammy winning brother, sister duo were once a trio in the band Spectrum?

C

Grammy winning. Okay.

B

Oh, Chris.

A

I mean, is it the White Stripes?

B

No, because they're not.

C

Like, they weren't really.

A

They were. They're fake siblings.

C

That was a bit. That was a bit.

A

Oh, I. You know what? I think I actually know, but what it.

C

Colin, I'm guessing, is it the Carpenters?

B

It's the Carpenters. The Carpenter. Orange wedge. Last question here for Pop Quiz. What MTV show is mentioned in Nickelback's song Rockstar?

C

Oh, man.

B

Wow. Chris.

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Total Request Live.

B

Trl. Oh, that's not a bad guess.

A

No MTV show, huh?

C

Jackass no, he was in my head.

B

No. The song rock star is about like, whoa, I've made it. I'm a successful cribs. Crib.

A

Oh, nice. Okay.

B

Good job, brains.

A

Okay. Not bad, not bad. All right.

B

This week, hey, it's our season finale. Our last episode of 2025. It was a pretty big year for us. We hit episode 300 and then we had all these special guests and we had some crazy episodes. But today is our last episode of the season and you guys know it. Every episode of Good Job Brain, we usually have a topic that we prepare a segment or like fun facts or quizzes about. But every fifth episode that's all out the door. We have a pure 100% quizzy goodness. All quiz, no topic. So this week it is our all quiz bonanza. Number 61.

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Well, here on Good job brain, over 300 episodes in. Now nearly 305 episodes in. We love talking about our fast food. We love talking about failures. And so I have brought a write down quiz for you guys called failed fast food.

C

All right.

A

And I'll have you write down your answers.

B

I'm ready.

A

Aaron is ready.

B

Oh, I'm going to rock this.

A

Question number one. In 2016, this fast food chain rolled out a line of edible nail polish, which sounds weird but is appropriate when you consider the chains slogan too many clues. Too many clues.

C

Okay.

B

I feel like you should have just stopped it.

A

I gave you one.

B

Really?

A

You think so?

C

Yeah, I think I might have had it without the hint anyway. All right, so let's see. Well, we'll see. We'll see.

B

I like how this has become a critique of question writing.

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I know. Really? Why don't you write your own quizzes? Hard mode. In 2016, this fast food chain rolled out a line of edible nail polish. Easy mode, apparently. Which sounds weird but is appropriate when you consider the chain's slogan. Karen and Colin have both written kfc. Karen and Colin are both correct. Kfc. It's finger licking good. So apparently you lick your fingers and then you also lick your nail polish and you. Maybe this is not really a failure because maybe the idea was to generate viral marketing. Right? It was. It was certainly a failure in the sense that the people who tried it said it was. It was pretty bad.

B

Was it? What? What was it flavored?

A

It was nail polish. It was. I forget. It was. It was like they had a couple of different flavors.

C

Oh.

A

Like I think there was something that was like sort of hot, saucy.

C

Oh, I just assumed it was like, you know, recipe like you know, that's what I assumed, right? If you're gonna have one.

A

Oh, I see.

B

Let's see.

A

It didn't go very well.

B

The polish came in two flavors. Original recipe in hot and spicy.

C

Wow.

A

Okay. There we go.

C

I am curious if I, if I, if I saw some. I, I might, I might actually try.

B

I might try it.

A

All right. Question number two. In 2014, this chain introduced a breakfast item which consisted of sausage and eggs inside a flavor folded over waffle. In 2014, this fast food chain introduced a breakfast item which consisted of sausage and eggs inside a folded over waffle. You said the last one was too easy and had too many hints. So now we're tasting you off here, Right? Exactly.

B

Fast forward food.

A

I'm dropping you at the crossroads of, of gettable. And just, just imagine it.

C

Okay?

A

Imagine what it might look like. Karen has written Jack for Jack in the box. Colin has crossed out McDonald's and written taco Bell. Good job. Because Taco Bell is the right answer. It was the waffle. Taco Bell Waffle. Taco. If you, if you can picture a folded waffle with the inside, it looks like a taco.

C

You kicked me over with that hand. I, I, I freely admit it. I was like, well, what would it look like if you.

A

Wait a minute, you see it in your mind and it's horrible. Yep. But I think Taco Bell has been, I think, trying for a long time to figure out, like, is there a way we can get people to come to our restaurant for breakfast?

C

Right. Yeah.

A

And the answer, I think, generally is no.

B

Yeah.

A

In the year 2000. This is your next question. The year 2000, McDonald's introduced a salad served in a handheld cup. Before eating the salad, you were supposed to do what?

C

Huh?

A

The answer is not prayer.

C

Okay. All right, all right, all right.

A

Karen and Colin both say shake it. Yes. Shakers salad. The McSalad shakers. Bacon salad. More fun. You have your salad in your, like, drink cup. And you put the dressing in. Then you put the lid on top. And then you sit there and you shake the salad up at the McDonald's so that all the dressing gets all over all that flavorless iceberg lettuce.

C

I was imagining little shreds of cake. Carrot, Like a little toppings capsule or something, you know, with like, croutons or fake bacon bits. But I, I wasn't imagining the dressing.

A

Like a nitro widget or something. Blast the bacon down into the stuff.

C

Yeah. I was being way too sophisticated. It's just like. No, we just got to get the ranch on the lettuce, buddy.

A

Yeah. Salad. Make sure that lid is on. So that didn't work. In 2012, Burger King rolled out an ice cream sundae topped with this then very trendy, savory ingredient.

B

What year?

A

2012. In 2012, Burger King rolled out an ice cream sundae topped with this, then this very trendy, savory ingredient. Okay, all right, all right, all right. Aaron and Colin both say bacon. Are both correct? Yes. Burger King's bacon sundae. It's sort of tough to remember now, but at that moment in time, late aughts, early teens, bacon was having this revival. Incredible bacon flavored things. Things with bacon on them. Chocolate covered bacon.

C

Member? Yeah. Oh, yeah, totally.

A

Thing. Yeah, Yeah.

B

I don't know if this is true or not, and I'm no expert, but I feel like we can attribute this to Portland's donut shop, Voodoo Donuts over the bacon donuts.

A

Yeah.

B

Back then when they debuted, not debuted. When people learned about. They're like, what?

A

Bacon on a donut, Bacon on it. Yeah.

B

Crazy.

A

It did. It became. It became very, very trendy at the moment in Burger King. Even did a bacon Sunday for a brief moment in time. All right, next question. Introduced in the early 1960s to appeal to Catholics who were abstaining from meat were two sandwiches at various McDonald's. One was the successful Filet o fish, and the other one, which was not successful, had what, two fillings?

B

I can give you the name of it.

A

I'm sure you, man.

C

All right. Yeah. Karen.

A

And that is not what I am asking for. It was a burger with two. With, you know, you had your. You had your bun and you had two things inside it. What were the two things? For one point total?

C

Wow. Okay, man. All right. Right. It's not the filet fish. Like, what would be a good, you know, counterpart to the filet?

B

What would be a good counterpart?

A

Colin? Yeah, yeah, I know.

C

I don't know.

A

This is going to be tough for you.

C

That's not going to.

A

You.

C

It's not going to get me there.

A

Haven't. If you haven't heard of it, you're not going to want to hear the answer.

C

All right, I'm going to put down a joke answer because I don't know. I don't know. Yeah.

A

All right, you are, you have. Colin has written down peanut butter and jelly. Peanut butter is incorrect. Jelly is also incorrect. Garrett has written down somehow the correct answer, which is peanut, pineapple and cheese. And Karen, what was that burger called?

B

Hula burger.

A

A hula burger. I really love how you have two people trying to solve the same problem. Catholics don't eat meat on Fridays. What are we going to do? And one person is like, oh, my God, we have to go big. We're going to take a slice of pineapple and our weird McDonald's cheese. We're gonna put two of those slices of cheese around a piece of pineapple and slap it on a bun and call it the hula burger. And then somebody else is like, fish.

B

It also could be that was the time, you know, Trader Vic's Tiki.

C

Yeah, A little bit of a tiki Romance Hawaii. Yeah.

A

Culture, hula dancers on, like, on the dashboard of your car sort of thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

B

It's like, for sure I can go to McDonald's and get it. Exotic hula burger.

C

The person at the pineapple, you know, distributor just high fives left and right. That day, you guys, did you see?

A

You can fit so many burgers. All right, staying on McDonald's because. Why not? Because they've just had, like, you know, weird thing after weird thing. Available for a few years in the 80s and 90s in the United States, the ill conceived McSpaghetti is now currently only available in two countries. Indonesia and where.

C

I can't spell.

A

All right, I did actually ask a variation on this last time, but I do want to ask it again. You're both correct. In the Philippines.

C

Oh, good job.

A

Rain. Where? Fast food spaghetti mostly at. Mostly at Jollibee is very popular. McSpaghetti is still around, however, since I asked that question. They have since introduced it in Indonesia also. Oh, so now that's two. That's two countries. So that's. That's double the number of countries that it was just a couple of years ago. So if it doubles again and doubles again and doubles again, we'll have it on the moon.

C

Yeah. The Kohler effect.

A

Let's keep our fingers crossed for mixed spaghetti. It is good. It is good. Yes. Go to Jollibee and have the spaghetti.

B

Change the fried chicken. Eat it together. Oh, God.

A

Yep. Let's talk about another flash in the pan social media Instagram food trend in 2016, attempting to capitalize on one of those very sort of, you know, social media food trendy things. Red Robin introduced a burger with buns made of what? In 2016, attempting to capitalize on a flash in the pan social media trend.

C

Okay.

A

Robin introduced a burger with buns made of what?

C

Okay, all right. I know somebody did what I'm writing down. So we'll see if I'm correct. Might as well.

A

Might as well write it down. You know what? Again, that trivia strategy of you got to write something down.

C

Yeah, I know. Somebody did this.

A

Oh, Colin. Very interesting. Colin has written down grilled cheese sandwiches.

B

Good.

A

I have had a burger where the buns were grilled cheese sandwiches, and I am still alive marginally. Aaron has written down fried chicken, and.

C

You are both that wrong.

A

I'm gonna. I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you the answer. The buns were made of ramen noodles, and they called it the red Ramen, based on the ramen burger that had become popular in New York City and become a social media trend of, oh, I'm eating this burger, and the buns are these, like, hockey pucks of ramen noodles. We had the one in New York.

B

You hated it, right?

A

It's. Oh, yeah, it's not good. It's exactly what you think it's like, well, how about instead of a nice fluffy bun, I eat my burger between two crunchy bricks of ramen noodles? Doesn't work, but it looks really interesting when you Instagram it. And then you. And then it was good. If you're already close, I think. Yeah, yeah, exactly. All right, I want to take a quick, quick little tangent here really fast. We may have asked this for, but I want to do a brief one question round of Brad Pitt or Lasers? All right, just one.

C

Let's do it.

A

Chris kohler or chicken McNuggets.

C

Oh, man, we've done this.

B

We also have to know how old he is.

C

That's true.

A

So that's part of it. How old am I?

C

Second two step. Yes, because I think we did this.

A

Brad Pitter Lasers. By the way, if you're just listening to the show right now, actually, we haven't done it in a long time. It's which of those two things came first, Me or the chicken McNugget? Collins holding up an answer to some other camera. You want?

C

No, I'm waiting.

A

Karen says Nuggs. Colin says Nuggs. Wrong, wrong, wrong. I am so old. How old is he? I am so old that I am older than Chicken McNuggets. I was born in 1980. Chicken McNuggets were born in 1981. 1.

C

I knew it was 81, and I knew it was so close. I knew it was close.

A

So here's the question then. Before the introduction of the Chicken McNugget in 1981, McDonald's for a few years sold nuggets composed of. What.

B

Was it called?

A

McNugget it was not called McNugget. It was called something. Blank nuggets. It was called something nuggets.

C

All right. Something nuggets. When was this? This was.

A

You said before this was like 70s, early 80s. Yeah. All right.

C

Okay.

A

Yep. All right. McDonald's had nuggets made of what? It's not beef Wellington. All right.

C

I mean, that wouldn't take a nugget shape. Come on, don't be absurd.

A

Beef Wellington is sort of like a big nugget. All right. Colin says pork. Aaron says onion. Aaron is correct. Onion nuggets.

C

Interesting.

A

Onion nuggets. I want to try another question. In the 1980s, the chain a and W. Yes. A and W wanted to compete with McDonald's quarter pounder. So they introduced a third pounder. They introduced a one third of a burger that weighed 1/3 of a pound.

C

Okay.

A

This burger failed miserably. What is A and W's official explanation for why this burger failed?

B

I kind of remember. I don't know how, I don't know how to explain it in an answer.

A

I'm going to accept a wide variety of answers here. Just as long as I think we're on the same wavelength. Colin. Colin says one over four looks quote unquote bigger than one over three. Karen says people didn't get math. Yes, you are both, you are both correct. The official explanation is that people thought that one third of a pound was less than one quarter of a pound because three is less than four. Four. And therefore why would I buy the one third of a pound burger when I could go over to McDonald's and get a quarter of a pound burger or the same or, or less price? Yeah, that.

B

I just, psychologically, I wonder if people made this. Like, I feel like people don't make that mistake with half and quarter.

A

You're right. I think you're right. Just third is a weird half a pound. Yeah, right, it is. And they just, they thought that it was smaller than a quarter. Like if you look around, you do not see third pound burgers. That is still in play.

B

Yeah, yeah.

A

People still have not learned like that. That phenomenon is still very much in play. Finally, here's your last question. This is one of the reasons I wanted this be a write down quiz. So currently McDonald's has their, their classic cheeseburger, which is a sort of a bun with a thin, thin film of meat applied, you know, to it. And over McDonald's history, it has attempted to introduce like deluxe burgers, like larger burgers, burgers with better, more, whatever ingredients. Only a Few of these had really had any long term staying power. You have the Quarter Pounder, you know, you've got your like double cheeseburger or your McDouble or whatever sort of, you know, configurations. And then you have the Big Mac for when you want to eat. Exactly 1.5 months.

C

Yeah.

A

Now, while McDonald's has been in this very paradigm for a while, you got your Big Mac, your Quarter Pounder, your regular cheeseburger. That's kind of it. There were between the 80s and the 2000s, several high profile failures. I'm going to give you these burgers in alphabetical order. I want you to put them in chronological order of their release.

B

Oh, man.

C

All right.

A

The Arch Deluxe.

C

Okay.

A

The Big and tasty, the McDLT and the McLean Deluxe.

B

Wow, I've never even heard of that.

C

Okay, okay. So there's.

B

Don McLean.

C

The Don McLean.

A

Yes, exactly. Named after American Troubadour, Don McLean comes.

C

With a free small American apple pie. Yes.

A

Just as a reminder, you're putting these in chronological order of their nationwide rollout. Nothing, no trick question here. Arch Deluxe, big and tasty, McDLT, and the McLean or the McLean Deluxe.

C

Okay.

A

And a lot of this is trying to figure out what era of like American culture did each of these right into. We're spanning from like 1985 to 2000. Okay. Okay, so let's see. So Colin says the McDLT, the McLean, the Big and Tasty, and the Arch Deluxe. Karen says the McDLT, the Big and Tasty, the Arch Deluxe and the McLean. Colin is more. Neither of you are right. Colin is more correct. So I'll just run this down for you. 1985, the McDlaus by Jason Alexander. Indeed. The hot side stays hot and the.

C

Cool side stays cold.

A

Two issues. Number one, the cheese was on the cool side. Who wanted cold cheese on the burger? The cheese should have been on the hot side, melting into the beef. Okay, fine, Whatever. The issue with the mcdlt, does anybody.

C

Remember it was the giant Styrofoam package.

A

The Styrofoam package was twice as big as the other styrofoam packages at McDonald's. And it's as we entered this era of wanting to have less Styrofoam waste, you know, the mcdlt was an easy target because the thing was so big. Dlt, though, I mean, I'm going to say, I'm going to tell you was great. It was great. It actually, it absolutely did what it was supposed to, like crispy lettuce. And so when you put the burger together and ate it. You know, you actually got like this fresh burger sensation because the lettuce has not wilted and like melted in lettuce liquid. Right?

C

Yeah, I do. I never thought about the. As you said, I mean, like, the philosophical debate there must have been about which side the cheese goes on. Yeah.

B

I don't know.

C

I imagine fist fights behind the scenes.

A

1991, the McLean Deluxe. This is really in that era of diet culture and specifically low fat.

C

Yeah.

A

The idea that you had to stop eating fat, that every other garbage you ate was fine as long as you could get down the num. The percentage of fat that you were eating. And the McLean Deluxe was. It was just a McDonald's burger, except the burger patty itself had less fat because it was 90% lean beef and 10% carrageenan. Like a seaweed in there. To give you the idea behind it, to give you juiciness. Even though it was lean. This was just a big fit. People were not going to McDonald's looking to get something and save a couple of grams of fat here and there. It simply was not what they were after. 1996 was the rollout of the Arch Deluxe.

C

Ah.

A

Marketed to adults. Hit the mid-90s, late-90s. McDonald's has sort of become this, like, destination that, like, kids wanted to go to for birthday parties. But, like, adults weren't really going to McDonald's as much or didn't. Adults were not the drivers of, like, wanting to go to McDonald's. And so they were like, we need to introduce something that adults are going to like. The Arch Deluxe had the split top bun and peppered bacon and Dijon A's on it.

C

I Very grown up. Cody. So good.

A

I need to. Have you ever had one? Karen. Karen. They need to bring back the Arch Deluxe. Because now what McDonald's does is they just, they. They introduce some weird burger for like a month.

B

Limited. Yeah.

A

And then people go in, they eat limited burger, and they're like, yeah, that's weird. And then they go. And then they do it. They do it again. These were attempts to introduce something that was gonna be like permanently on the menu.

C

Yeah.

A

And make it very, very popular. And it's. It was always very difficult for them to do that. Never really worked. But The Arch Deluxe 100% was delicious. The America failed the Arch Deluxe on back to McDonald's and eaten.

B

Was it. Was it at a higher price point?

A

Point, yeah.

C

Which seems fair.

A

But again, like, this was 1996, when the cheeseburger wasn't on the dollar menu because it wasn't a dollar yet. The cheeseburger was like $0.89. The Arch Deluxe is probably like 250. You know, it was straight up. It was delicious. It was probably like one of the best McDonald's burgers they've had. We failed the Arch Deluxe. They should bring it back. Cowards. Finally, in 2000, McDonald's did the national rollout of the Big and Tasty. And actually I was reading this and I remembered something because initially they had the Big and Tasty on the west coast and they had the Big Extra on the east Coast. And I remember. Or really in like New England. And I remember the Big Extra. It's a Whopper, but bad. It was like a. The burger, the patty was really bigger. Yeah, big old flatter patty and a bigger bun. It was a big mess, you know what I mean? Cause it was so big. But it was like the McDonald's kind of like the shredded lettuce and stuff like that. And it just all kind of like fault, you know, falls apart. And so it was the McDLT, the McLean, the Arch Deluxe, and the Big and Tasty. And then after that they, I think wisely, like do anything, stopped trying to do anything beyond essentially what people already wanted, which was, you want the little one, do you want the big one or do you want the triple bun?

B

And also, I think they've completely succeeded in the kids market. Like you go to any other fast food restaurant and get their kids meal. It's like so sad.

C

Yeah, yeah.

B

You know, a paper bag and your toys, like stickers. It's like, it feels so not special. But then when you get a Happy Meal, it's like so special for our family.

A

Like, we would not patronize McDonald's were it not for our children, you know, wanting a Happy Meal.

B

Well, speaking of food, this is not my segment, but I'm just going to show you guys a surprise here. I'm going to put it in view of the camera.

A

Okay.

B

What is this? You say?

C

Oh, is that a Gros Michelle Banana? Karen.

B

It's a grow G R O S Grow Michelle Banana.

A

Whoa. Got the. You got the fat mic?

B

I got the fat mic right here, dude. A quick recap. It's the fake banana flavor that we think is fake is actually based on a real banana. But that, that variety of banana is long lost. And you can special order this type of banana. I only got one. They only sent me one, so I got this.

A

Oh my gosh.

B

How.

A

Where did you, where, how did you get it?

B

There are a Couple places that are tropical fruit farms in Florida. Their weather is warm enough that they can grow all types of tropical fruits, but, like, not at a scale, so, you know, you don't get a lot. So I bought, like, a box of variety tropical fruits, and I asked for, you know, I was like, please, if you have gross. Michelle banana. Can you. Can you throw it in the box? Threw in one. It's here.

A

One.

B

I'm still waiting for it to get yellow, but yeah.

A

So you're not. You're not going to eat it on the show?

B

No, it's not ready yet.

C

And describe the flavor to us. I am envious of your banana.

B

Do you know what else they sent me?

A

What? Oh, God. What could it be one.

B

One singular cacao pod. Oh.

A

Are you gonna. Are you gonna do it?

B

I already did it, you guys.

A

What?

B

What?

A

What? You already did it?

B

I already did it. What else do you do with a cacao pod?

A

Make chocolate.

B

You make chocolate? I opened it up, I took all the fruit out, and I threw it in a fermentation jar. So it's. Now it's fermenting. I have two. And then I'm gonna roast the beans, and then I'm gonna shell them, and I'm gonna get cocoa nibs and make my own chocolate. I already did one bean. I already did a control test.

A

Okay, okay, okay, okay.

B

So the flavor of cacao fruit, it's kind of like lychee. It's kind of like mangosteen.

A

Okay.

B

There's not much flesh, so it's not very satisfying to eat. You're like, I'm just kind of skimming it with my teeth. But once I stuck in the oven starts roasting instantly. Chocolate. Like, chocolate smell.

A

Oh, sure.

C

One little tiny bean, the whole house full of chocolate.

B

I'll report back. I'll report back.

A

Okay, thanks.

B

Sorry. That was just a little banana interlude. Let me put the banana here.

A

Just teasing us with this forbidden banana.

B

And we're gonna take a quick break, and we'll be right back. This episode is brought to you by McAfee. I got a message that our flight was canceled, but they can put us on another flight, and we just need.

C

To confirm our credit card info.

B

Wait, I got a security alert from McAfee.

A

It flagged that message as a scam.

B

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A

Hey, this is Good Job Brain. The best questions of the 70s, 80s, 90s, and today. Good Job, Brain.

B

And we're back. It's all quiz bonanza number 61. Quick shout out. That awesome radio bumper you just heard is from our friend Matt from the Drunkard's Walk podcast, which is a Wikipedia racing podcast, so check it out. All right, so this season, we. I talked a lot about Labubus. I got really into collecting Labubus. I feel like part of the reason why Labubus are viral is because of the name. I think Labubu is a very interesting. The. The Boo.

C

Boo.

B

The. The repeated syllables.

C

Yeah.

B

Really interesting.

C

Yeah.

B

And so I was gonna make a quiz where all the answers follow that format of a B. B.

C

Okay.

B

Like a. Like a Tampopo. Turns out not a lot of things come in that format. Not enough to. To make a good quiz. So instead, I've made a quiz. Lightning round. Get your buzzers out. All the answers do have repeated syllable.

A

Okay, okay, okay.

B

Double syllable. Somewhere.

C

Somewhere in the answer. Okay, okay. All right.

B

Lightning round. Here we go. Question number one. They're a savory steamed dumpling in Tibetan and Nepali cuisine.

A

Chris, what is a momo?

C

Momo.

B

Correct. Thank you for that Jeopardy. Phrasing.

A

Oh, my God. We've been watching so much Jeopardy. That I'm just doing it now, like, automatically.

C

Can't help it.

B

Next question. What high fashion brand is the sister brand to Prada? While Prada took the last name of the designer, Mario Prada, this brand played with the first name of Mario Prada's granddaughter.

C

Repeated syllable fashion brand.

B

The answer is Mew Mew.

C

Oh, I've heard of Mew Mew.

B

Part of the Prada family.

C

I did not know they were connected to Prada. I'm not sure I would have gotten that. I've heard of them.

B

Mucha Prada.

C

Ah.

B

All right, next question. Sanrio debuted characters known as little twin stars in 1975, made up of a pair of sibling angels. What are their names?

C

Oh, my gosh.

B

They're known as this in Japanese.

A

Okay.

B

You know, in English, we call them little twin stars. You know what they look like?

C

Yeah.

B

Enduring Sanrio characters. Blue haired boy and his sister. Their names are Kiki and Lala.

C

Yes.

B

All right, next question. Who is often depicted as a hut with chicken legs?

C

Oh, Colin, that's Baba Yaga.

B

Baba Yaga, the Slavic witch. Comes in many forms. Oh, this is a calling question. I apologize. In the NBA, referees can call fouls on defenders. Not giving jump shooters space to land. Is unofficially known as the what rule?

A

Huh? The. The.

B

Named after a Warrior warriors player. In the NBA, referees can call fouls on defenders. Not giving jump shooters space to land. Is unofficially known as the what rule?

C

Oh, my gosh. With a double sound.

B

It is the Zaza rule.

C

Okay.

B

Who infamously stuck his foot underneath another player while they were jumping and making a shot and made that player basically roll their ankle and had a huge injury.

C

So, yeah, you gotta let people land.

B

All right, next question. Despite being yelled at and told, and I quote, she deserves nothing on a reality show when she was a child, she ended up having a successful entertainment career. Even launched her own line of hair bows.

A

Chris, this must be JoJo Siwa.

B

JoJo Siwa.

A

Yes.

B

Next question. This archbishop was a big fan of marshmallows. Colin.

C

I mean, I hear archbishop. I'm thinking Tutu.

B

I know. I was like, what's. What's an interesting fact about him that not a lot of people know. Turns out I did not know that loves marshmallows. I had to double check this. It was in a biography of his.

C

Okay.

B

Not just someone on Twitter.

C

Right.

B

Next question. Started by Korean immigrants, husband and wife team in Southern California as a hobby back in 2006. What phenomenon is going to get its own theatrical feature movie in 2027 produced by DreamWorks.

C

Whoa.

A

All right. Can you. Okay, do it again.

B

Started by Korean immigrant husband and wife team in Southern California as a hobby back in 2006. What phenomenon is going to get its own theatrical feature movie in 2027 produced by DreamWorks?

C

Phenomenon.

B

Yes.

C

Hobby phenomenon. Roughly 20 years old.

B

I would say a brand. That's what I'm not saying. It's a brand name.

A

Okay.

B

They started this hobby for their kids to help teach their kids fun, fun ways to learn. It is Coco Melon.

A

Oh, Coco. Really?

C

Yes, really.

B

I ignorantly assume that it was, like, made by some animation powerhouse, China or something. Nope. It was a husband and wife and a small team.

C

I did not know that.

B

Now they're gonna make a cocomelon feature film. Coming to you, 2027.

C

I can hear the little thing. Like, I can hear it. Thanks, Taryn.

B

Yeah, yeah. Last question in this quiz. Geographically positioned near the Florida Keys. What location made it big in 1988? Geographically positioned near the Florida Keys. You might say off the Florida Keys. What fictional location made it big in 1988? Chris, please.

A

Kokomo. You added fictional. That was really what was important.

B

Famous Beach Boy song featured in the soundtrack of a hit movie. Cocktail.

A

Cocktail.

C

Yeah.

B

Cocktail was having a moment. Yes. Kokomo. Not actually a real place. It's completely made up for the song, even though the rest are all geographically accurate places that they list.

C

All those poor souls who trek all the way down, all the way down to the Keys. You're like, where can I catch the ferry to Kokomo?

A

Yes. Yeah.

C

Oh, I'm sorry.

B

I want to get there fast. Then when I get there, I want. Yeah, that's where I want to go.

C

Yeah.

B

All right. Good job.

C

I'm getting excited for my next road trip. I'm going somewhere in March. You guys know I love driving. When I'm doing the road trips, I'm out there. We usually end up playing, at least for a short time, some variation of some type of license plate game, like.

A

Who can steal the most license plates.

C

So, you know, I mean, the classic license plate game variation is just, hey, what state is that? Like, you grow out of that pretty quickly also, because, you know, depending on where you're driving, you tend to see a lot of the same plates. Like in California, you got to drive a pretty good ways before you stop seeing a lot of the California plates. But, you know, you're on the interstate, you do see some good ones. Every now and then, you're blessed, and you see the Alaska or the Hawaii plate. You know, how do they drive? How did they get here? As the dad, Chris, I don't need to tell you, as the dad, if you see a Hawaii played on the road.

A

Right.

C

It's just a matter of time until that joke comes out of your mouth involuntarily. Yeah, it's like, oh, I got real wet on the way over here, I bet.

A

Right? Right? Yeah, yeah, something like that.

C

Right?

A

I'm going to not say it.

C

One of the things I've noticed recently is I see a lot more specialty plates on the road than I did even 10 years ago, and certainly more than I did when I was a kid. So by. By specialty plates, what I mean, And I'm sure you guys have seen them basically every state, in addition to the regular plate they give you, when you register your car, you can usually, for a fee, 10, 20, 30, 40 bucks. Whatever. You can pay extra to have one of many designs of specialty plates. Okay. The classic version of this is like some plate that honors some important piece of state history or local university, military service or something that's a major piece of state pride or something that people would pay extra money to be associated with. The market has exploded. I got excited. I got excited about this by seeing some kind of funky specialty plates on. On a recent road trip. And I started digging a little bit to see, like, what the various states have. You can get specialty plates now for everything from the charitable causes to tourism to fandom. I mean, you can get sports team.

B

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

C

Official plate. The way it works for most states. To get a specialty plate that has money being raised for it, you need to be a legitimate nonprofit state foundation or a charity of some kind that the state is willing to basically process these extra fees for you. So, you know, if you're a sports team. The way this often works is most of the major sports teams will have a charity foundation as part of the organization. So it'll be the sports team's charity foundation that sort of spread sponsors the plate and then, you know, has the right to use the logo with the name and all that kind of stuff, too. I have put together a write down quiz for you all about specialty plates from across our great country here. Okay, so get your implements ready. Here we go. In this Midwestern state, drivers can pay for a specialty plate with the logo of the Harley Davidson motorcycle company, which is headquartered there. In this Midwestern state, drivers can get a specialty plate with the Harley Davidson motorcycle company logo. Company famously headquartered in this.

A

You say famously, like I'm supposed to know.

C

I thought I knew, but somewhere in the Midwest. Karen.

B

I mean, I'm just gonna go.

C

All right, first, stick with it. I like it.

A

Okay.

C

Okay, answers up. Karen says Ohio. Chris says Iowa. Oh, you're both wrong. I'm sorry. It is Wisconsin.

A

Oh, I did not know that at all.

C

Great state of Wisconsin. I found this. This nugget that tickled me. Karen, I know you love the stock ticker names that are. That are cute. Do you know what?

B

Hog.

C

Hog. It's great. What a great stock ticker. Yeah. For Harley Davidson. Next question. The deepest lake in America adorns a specialty license plate from what western state? Two points. You got to give me one for the state, one for the lake.

A

Oh, okay.

B

Like the name of the lake.

C

The name of the lake. The name of the state. The deepest lake in America adorns a specialty license plate available from what Western state. It's a big N. Answers up. Chris says great Salt Lake and Utah. Karen says, or meaning Oregon. And crater. Meaning Crater Lake. Karen's got it. It is, yes. Crater Lake.

B

PNW advantage.

C

Yeah, I figured maybe Karen's been there. Average depth of over 1100ft. Max depth almost 2000ft. Giant. It's. I mean, the surface is big too. It's like 20 plus square miles. It's like five miles by six miles. It's a big, big, big lake. Okay, Jimmy Buffett fans, take note. If you live in this state, you can buy an officially endorsed Margaritaville specialty license plate. What state gives its drivers the privilege of adorning their car with the specialty Margaritaville license plate? He does have a connection to this state. You have both written the correct answer, which is Florida. Yeah, don't, don't, don't overthink it. Yeah. Margaritaville. It's not gonna be Minnesota, right? It'd be great if it were, but it's not. It's, it's Florida. Yeah. You know, and it's, it's, it's a beautiful plate. I looked at it. You know, it's got a parrot on there. You know, no margaritas, no, no. Jimmy Buffett himself. But it's evocative. It's like if, you know, you know, you're not buying a Margaritaville plate and not thinking of the song.

B

Colin, can you put a person's face, like a famous person's face likeness on a license plate?

C

Broadly, yes. You can do whatever the state allows you to do. The states have a lot more leeway than the government does.

A

A license plate, like, it's not, it's not currency, you know, it's not something. There's a lot of rules and regulations. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

C

Now that said, there is some degree of decorum. You don't see a lot of people, people on the plates. Right. You know, and if you do, they tend to be, you know, ex presidents. Right. That type of thing. Right. Okay. A specialty plate featuring Big Bend national park, one of the only pieces of national parkland to border another country is available for residents of this state. Big Bend national park borders another country. So a few states it could be. But which one answers up. Chris has written.

B

Oh, you went the other way.

C

Karen has written Texas. I was really, I was so hoping for a split. I was hoping one of you would go north and one of you would go south. Yeah. Karen has the answer correct?

B

Yes.

C

All right, next question. Moving right along. Pizza loving drivers in this state can buy specialty Plates with the slogan the Pizza State and a little illustration of a slice of pizza. What state?

A

Oh, geez.

C

What state has the. The gumption to go right on out there and let you buy a license plate that says the Pizza State? We maybe. We maybe talked about this. Maybe two things.

B

Is it, like, the shape of the state is like a pizza, or are they famous for a type of pizza?

A

Right, right.

B

And I think we both might get this right.

C

We take our pizza very seriously on the show. I'm hoping that you both have a connection.

A

True. Yeah.

B

Yeah. This is true, too.

C

Yeah. Let's see here. Karen has written ct. Chris has written Connecticut, his home state. You are both correct. It is. It is, of course, worse.

A

If any other state had done that.

B

Yeah.

A

They would be lying.

B

Yeah.

A

The Connecticut state nickname officially is the Nutmeg State. Right. Nobody was going to Connecticut. Me like, oh, we got to try that nutmeg.

C

Next question. One of the many specialty plate options in this western state boasts Ski country usa. I'll give you a hint. It is not Utah. I will not let you fall into to Utah again. It's not Utah, which. Which famously has a main plate bragging about their skiing. All right, specialty plate Western State Ski Country USA answers up. Oh, Chris says Nevada. Karen says Colorado. Karen, correct again. On a roll.

A

That makes a lot more sense.

C

Yeah, yeah, right. As I say, though, Utah has the life elevated. The ski Utah, the slogan greatest snow on earth right on their main plate. And then interesting. Colorado kind of, you know, next door neighbor there may be jabbing them in the ribs a little bit. Yeah, right. Ski country usa. Next question. The Lobster Research Education and development board receives $10 from each lobster specialty plate sold in this state.

B

I would totally pay for a lobster plate.

C

Yep, yep. You both have written Maine. You both have the point. It is Maine. The Lobster Research Education and Development Board, which I take to mean they are educating the lobsters with some of this money. Okay, we'll go back to food here more directly in this state. You can show your support for the Apple Commission by getting their specialty plate, which includes a cute little apple and the slogan world's finest apples.

B

I feel like I know too much. You know, like, I feel like your Joe Blog answer is going to be Washington. But then I also know that a lot of, like, honeycrisp and a lot of, like, the Apple Tech or, you know, the Apple Agricultural Science Big Apple. Is it Minnesota?

A

I know. I'm gonna. I'll put down the Joe Bloggs answer. I think that sort of forces you to do it, too.

C

Okay, yeah, no, that's true. Good point. Yeah, good reasoning and good answer, both of you. You have it correct. You both wrote Washington. Yes. Washington state, known for their apples, loves to brag about the apples and.

B

Yeah, cosmic crisp come our cosmic crisps.

C

So in this case, it's the Washington Apple Commission that has basically created the. The nonprofit entity applied, you know, and, like, get approved to supply the specialty plate. And then you have to basically hope that enough people buy it, because sometimes they get, you know, decommissioned. If they're just not popular enough, the state won't run the program, you know, but you can get your. You can show your support, Karen. Okay, next one. This southern state not only has an Appalachian Trail specialty plate available, it is home to the southern terminus of the trail. This southern state not only has an Appalachian Trail specialty plate available, it is home to the southern terminus of the trail. Reaching back in the punch bowl. It's down in there somewhere.

B

I think I know where it ends.

A

I don't think it is. I'm not actually sure.

C

Yeah, I. I have faith in at least one of your brains. Well, Karen. Karen has written ga. Chris has written Georgia. You guys are at least on the same vibe. You both got it. It is correct. Yes. Good old. Good old Georgia. Springer Mountain, in fact, the southern terminus of the At. That's right. Okay, I got. I got a bonus here for you. I got a bonus question that I had to include just because it made me laugh. It's not about a specialty plate. It's about a main plate. In fact, about a goof on a main plate. Okay, I'll give you some background. In 2021, the state of Ohio released a new license plate design, main plate design that included, among other things, it included the Wright brothers famous flyer airplane. Okay. And a banner that read birthplace of aviation with the plane. Much to the chagrin of everyone involved, There was a glaring error with the airplane on the license plate.

B

Oh, no.

C

What was the error? What was the error? So again, this was just a Few years ago, 2021, state of Ohio, new license plate design released a whole lot of fanfare. They're like, here's the design. We've already started printing the plates. Here's what it looks like. Got the. The right flyer with a banner saying birthplace of aviation with a glaring error. What could that error be?

B

The air. Like a typo error or like something's.

C

Wrong with something with the airplane. An error with the airplane and how it was depicted on the plate.

A

Okay.

C

All right. They did fix it. Eventually answers up rather quickly. In fact, I'll give you some leeway here if I can get the gist of what you're saying. Birthplace of aviation. They had to fix it real fast. All right, answers up. Karen says that the banner facing Chris says had. Had wheels. Right. I like that. I'm gonna. I'm gonna broadly give Karen the point here. The. The error that they had is that the plane was essentially shown flying backward because. So, all right, if you can. If you've seen it, we've all seen it. You may or may not remember the. The right flyer. The right has two. Two big wide wings and then little extension with. With a. With a set of smaller wings on it. Okay. Which sort of looks like a tail to a modern viewer, but that is actually the front of the plane. So on the license plate, they showed the plane with the little, quote, tail trailing the banner, when in reality, it would have been pushing the banner. So they showed this thing, the big press conference. Turns out they had already printed 35,000 plates. 35,000 plates that they had to recycle, basically, and start over again. So they flip the plane around so it looks like it's properly pulling the banner rather than pushing the banner through the sky. And I can sort of understand it, but you got to do your research if it's. If it's, you know, going on your plate.

B

Oh, funny.

C

All right, well done. Well done. Very special on the specialty plates quiz, guys.

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All right, I have our last segment of the year. So Michael from the Good Job Brain Facebook fan group. Our Lope Trotters group. Michael was also my Crystal Maze buddy, and I met up with him when I was in London, and we did the Crystal Maze, and it was the best experience of my life. Anyways, Michael shared this really amazing, very Good Job Brainy book. He said. It's a great book. It's titled Dictionary of fine distinctions, Nuances, niceties, and subtle shades of meaning.

A

Oh, yeah.

B

Here's kind of the promo description about this book. Join author Eli Bernstein on a hair splitter's odyssey into the world of the ultra subtle. So on the COVID on this book cover, there's, there's two things. And we, we talked about this in Good Job Brim before. There's a picture of a snake that is labeled venomous and there's a picture of a mushroom labeled poisonous. So this whole book is about love. It pairs or groups, mostly pairs of words that are very similar in spirit.

C

Yes, yes.

B

You know, maybe words we use interchangeably all the time, but they're technically different due to very precise definition.

C

It's extremely. Good job, brainy. And we have had quizzes and segments on, on this. I love it. That's great.

B

So I went out and I got this book and let me tell you, it is worth having. It's great. All right, so here I have a quiz. The format of the quiz is going to be I'm give you two things that are very similar and you tell me, or you guys can work together and tell me what are the actual differences between the two? Okay. They're the everyday words. If you were to guess what the technical difference is, like what, what would they be?

C

Yeah, right.

B

And some of these are featured in the book. I don't want to spoil the whole book. So some of these are from the book. Some of them I came up with. So here we go. Let's start with something easy, just to get a feeling for it. And you know, it's not a write down, it's not a buzz in, I think work together, talk together, share together what you think the difference is.

C

Do you remember we had, we, I, I had a quiz, I think, that I called what's the Difference?

B

Yeah.

C

Just imagining the, the joy of, of these, of these. A hair splitting, being very precise. Yeah.

B

This is your chance to actually.

C

All right, all right.

B

And you know, even recently in our Bad guys episode, you know, we shared etymology of words. Enemy and rival sound very similar, but technically they're different. And rival, very, very specifically is someone who has the same goal as you. Someone is after the same thing you're after. The tennis players Federer, Nadal, they're friends, but on the court they're rivals because they're all after a win and they're not really enemies. That's the, the distinction between the meanings. So let's do our first pair, jam and jelly.

C

Oh, man. Yeah. Yeah.

A

So.

C

Oh, gosh.

A

Well, so jam is, is like preserved fruits and you have like all of the, you know, fruits and the fibers and.

C

Right.

A

Like that. Whereas Jelly is. You strain all of that out, so you've essentially got something a.

C

Like a distillation.

A

Right. Gel. Liquid.

C

The sugars and the gel.

B

Yeah, yeah, you nailed it.

A

It's also like. Jelly is like. It's like juice.

B

Jelly is. Is very clear. There's no stuff in it and. Yeah, basically.

A

Yeah.

B

No strained fruit juice. Whereas jam is chunky, you know, pulpy, has seeds in it. I mean, then you can, like, work your way up the group and have preserves. Right. Preserves is like, mostly whole fruits. You see a lot of these distinctions in the food world because it's a very heavily regulated part of our lives. Yeah. That they have to come up with rules. All right, Team Maize versus labyrinth.

A

Oh, boy. So a labyrinth, I think classically, is like a straight line that you walk through a straight line and it twists and turns, but you're just sort of following this one line to the end. Whereas a maze has decision points where you could turn left or turn right or go forward versus a labyrinth, which is just one windy path, but you're.

C

Not, as you say, branching or.

A

Ooh.

C

Which way is the best way to get to the end. You're just following through a twisty path.

B

Yes, yes. Maze has many paths or. Or challenges or obstacles. Like, there are a lot of traps, I guess.

C

False ends.

B

False ends. It's designed to challenge. It's designed to trick you. Whereas labyrinth, classically, is one path. It's very windy, and it draws you towards the center. So most labyrinths are. When you look at the aerial view, it's round. It's, like, circular, and there's something in.

C

The middle, and there's kind of a meditative quality to them. Yeah.

A

We just did the Ripley's Believe it or Not Museum mirror maze with a whole group of, like, children, with the kids and their cousins. And it's so funny because they keep falling for it, and they're just like, oh, they're right there. Like, they'll point down and they're like, oh, oh. You know, uncle and cousins are right over there. And I'm like, no, that's. That's like being reflected five times. And they're like, behind us. It's great. It was so much fun.

B

But that's one path, right?

A

You know, I don't know. I'm in the mirror maze, and I'm really not sure how big it is, where it goes, or if I'm myself right now, or if I'm actually my mirror image and my real self is still stuck in.

C

That's the reveal at the end.

B

Next pair. Sparkling water versus soda water.

A

Oh, boy. Soda. Soda water has like, sodium in it, right? Like. Like it's not just carbonated water, but like soda water has like.

C

Right. It's. It's. It's got stuff. Yeah. That's been dissolved into it.

A

Minerals.

C

Yeah, yeah.

B

Sparkling water is carbonated mineral water. Technically, it's mineralized naturally.

A

Oh, okay. It's from like natural.

B

And it's designed to be enjoyed on its own, you know, so when they ask you still water or sparkling, you're supposed to drink that on its own.

A

Yeah.

B

Soda water is water that has been carbonated. It doesn't have mineral balance.

C

And okay, we had an inverted.

A

We got a background inverted.

C

Yeah, yeah.

B

But soda water does suggest that it is a mixer.

C

Right.

B

It's a base to be added to other things like syrup or, you know, spirits or for a cocktail.

A

Got it.

B

Next pair. Irony versus sarcasm.

A

Well, wow, that is such a good question.

C

Sarcasm is. Is basically expressing. Express expressing the opposite of your in. Of your true feelings or intention. You know, either for humorous or, you know, maybe mean purpose. Whereas irony is something that is contrary to what would be expected to happen. Happening.

B

You got it. Irony is saying one thing, but mean another. Sarcasm is saying one thing, mean another. But your intent is to be mean is to insult somebody. So you're like no dust, Sherlock. You're not Sherlock Holmes. And that's meant to like, insult you. You're meant to be mean. So, yeah, it's mean irony in a way. All right, this one. We're home bodies now, guys. Sometimes we gotta do some interior design. Maybe a trip to Ikea. We'll see some outdoors outdoor patio furniture. Wicker versus rattan.

A

Oh.

C

Ah. Okay.

B

Get a wicker chair.

C

Yeah.

B

Or a rattan chair.

A

Right.

C

So. Okay. Right. I think that the retain the one is like. Is like maybe more close to the. The actual reed. Like the plant. Is that what it is? Chris, are you familiar? Like the rattan.

A

Yeah.

C

Is the. Is the reed, but wicker is like the type of. Of.

A

Oh boy.

C

Like the craft is wicker, but the rattan is the material.

B

Colin is correct.

A

Okay.

B

Wicker is the style. It's the woven. It's the weaving of it. Like basket making.

A

Got it.

B

And rattan is the material. They're. They're specifically, they're palm vines.

A

Ah.

B

The vines are wrapped or curved to weave into a wicker style item.

C

Okay.

B

Wicker doesn't have to be rattan. It can be made of other things like bamboo or other fibers and stuff, but it's weaving, basket making.

A

I think of it as being made of other things.

B

Yeah.

A

Like wicker man leaves. Right, right.

B

Like, it's greedy, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If you go to Asia sometimes you have those outdoor chairs, and it's made of metal wires coated in plastic, and it's. That's wicker. Technically, that's wicker as well. It's the wicker style.

A

Ah.

B

All right, next one. Jargon versus slang.

C

Okay. All right, so. So. So jargon is, like, specific to, like, an industry. Right.

A

Or a trade, whereas slang is like informal language.

C

Yeah.

A

That. That develops.

C

That kind of crosses boundaries too, right?

A

Yeah.

B

Jargon is technical words, vocabulary, sayings, technical language specific to a certain field. Slang is specific to a particular subculture. So jargon is more profession. Slang is for subculture interest. So gamer slang. Gamer slang would be like, you're a noob, but gamer jargon would be third party games. Third party games. Yeah. First party games.

A

Interesting, Interesting.

B

Okay, all right, last one here. Stock versus broth.

A

A stock is a share in a. A company is a type of clear soup.

C

I'm gonna defer to Chris on this one. As. As Chef Chris. Yeah, yeah.

A

Stock is made with, like, vegetables, and broth is made with bones. Is that right? I don't know. Flip it. Oh, for. Oh, really? Made with vegetables and stock is made with bones.

B

Well, you know, so stock takes a long time simmering bones. That's why it takes a really long time. And it's plain and unseasoned.

A

Okay.

B

So it is literally bone juice.

A

Okay.

B

Broth is. Takes a short amount of time and still a long time, but shorter amount of time with meat and other stuff, aromatics, and it is seasoned.

C

Okay.

B

The key distinctions are thyme and bones. Stock, due to collagen, get coaxed out of the bones. Stock sometimes is more gelatinous and whereas broth is more like a clear soup. This is a great note. In the book, it says, you know what we say, bone, broth. It's technically a stock.

A

Oh, I see. Okay.

B

And then the book says the things we do for alliteration.

C

Yeah, right, right.

B

Technically, it's bone stock. Yeah. And not so broth.

A

Clear soup. It has a flavor, but it is also seasoned and herbed and stuff like that. Yep. Whereas stock is just what you get when you simmer. Bones.

B

Bones. Yeah.

C

Which you might. Again, kind of like the. The soda water angle. Right? You're using it as a. As a. To build something else out of.

B

Right, yes, yes. Yeah. You wouldn't just drink stock on its own. But you could drink broth on its own.

C

That's a good one. That's a really good one.

B

Yeah. Well, that's the end of my quiz. I just want to say run, don't walk to get this book.

C

It's going on my Christmas list right now.

B

It has cute. Don't put it on your Christmas list because I already bought it an hour ago and I'm sending one to your house. Colin. I'm sending one to your house, Chris.

A

Oh, wow.

B

Merry Christmas. It's a Christmas miracle. Again, this book is dictionary of Fine Distinctions, Nuances, Niceties and Subtle Shades of Meaning. Thank you, Michael, for sharing this book. I've enjoyed it. There's like great little illustrations, great bathroom read. Yes. And that is our show. Thank you all for joining me and thank you listeners for listening in. Thank you for this amazing year.

C

What a season.

B

What a season. Well, hope you learned stuff today about English words and their distinctions, about specialty license plates and about field fast food items. You can find us on all major podcast apps and on our website, goodjobbrain.com this podcast is part of Airwave Media podcast network. Visit airwavemedia.com to listen and subscribe to other shows like the Historian, Table Unspookable, and IGN Movies podcast. And we'll see you next year.

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Bye.

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