
Lux Radio Theatre - The Winslow Boy
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Arthur Winslow
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Kate Winslow
Mr. Winslow, you're surprised to see a lady reporter? Oh, I know, everyone is. But the editor sends me out on stories with special appeal to women. Like this one. A father's fight for his little son's honor.
Arthur Winslow
No, I believe this case has wider implications, Ms. Barnes.
Kate Winslow
Oh, yes, the political angle. Yes, I know. Now then, you do have other children, do you not?
Arthur Winslow
Ronnie is the youngest. My other son, Richard, has been attending Oxford. Catherine, my daughter is the eldest.
Kate Winslow
Catherine Winslow? Oh, why yes. She works quite actively for the Women's Suffrage Association.
Arthur Winslow
She does indeed. She has also been a tower of strength in my efforts to bring this dastardly case to trial.
Kate Winslow
Yes, yes, I see. Now, what I'd really like to do is get a nice photograph of you and your little boy together. I have my camera. But where is our little hero?
Arthur Winslow
He's arriving from school. His mother's at the station to meet him.
Kate Winslow
From school? You've got another school to take him? I mean, they didn't mind all the unpleasantness. Well, why is he coming back this time?
Arthur Winslow
Well, I haven't been expelled again, if that's what you mean. He's coming home to be interviewed by Sir Robert Morton. We hope he'll agree to take the case.
Kate Winslow
Sir Robert Morton? A little case like this?
Arthur Winslow
My dear madam, if you ever read newspapers, including the one that you represent, you'd be aware by now that this is not a little case.
Kate Winslow
No, no, of course not. But still. Sir Robert Mott.
Arthur Winslow
I understand he's the best lawyer in England. He's certainly the most expensive.
Kate Winslow
Well, now, if you won't mind giving me a few of the details. When did it all start?
Arthur Winslow
Nine long months ago. First I knew of the charge was when my son arrived home with a letter informing me of his expulsion for stealing a five shilling postal order. I telephoned Osborne at once and was referred to the Lords of the admiralty. My lawyer, Mr. Desmond Curry, requested the fullest possible inquiry. For weeks we were ignored and then met with a blank refusal and only finally granted reluctant permission to review the evidence.
Kate Winslow
Really?
Arthur Winslow
We decided that the so called evidence fully justified a reopening of the proceedings. We applied to the admiralty for a court martial. They ignored us. We applied for a civil trial. Again, we were ignored. But after tremendous pressure had been brought to bear letters to the newspapers, questions in the house of commons and other means open to private citizens of this country, the admiralty agreed to what they called an independent inquiry.
Kate Winslow
Oh, good.
Arthur Winslow
It was not good, madam. At that independent inquiry conducted by the judge advocate of the fleet, my son, a child of 13, was not represented by counsel, solicitors or friends. Now, what do you think of that?
Kate Winslow
And what happened?
Arthur Winslow
Inevitably, he was found guilty again. Branded for the second time as a thief and a forgery.
Kate Winslow
What a shame.
Arthur Winslow
I have fought this monstrous injustice with every weapon and every means at my disposal. I shall continue to fight.
Kate Winslow
Oh, what charming window curtains.
Arthur Winslow
I beg your pardon?
Kate Winslow
Your window curtains. They're perfectly delicious. What are they made of?
Arthur Winslow
Madam, I. I feel I have no idea.
Kate Winslow
Father. Father, where are you? Oh, do I have a poor little chap sitting on your couch? Mr. Moore says. I'm telling you I needn't come back till Monday. Three whole days.
Arthur Winslow
Yeah. Mind my leg.
Kate Winslow
Oh, sorry, father. Arthritis again?
Arthur Winslow
So the doctor repeatedly tells me at one guinea per visit. Well, how are you?
Kate Winslow
Absolutely top hole, father. Ah, now, that's exactly the way I'd like to take my picture. Would you hold it, Mr. Winslow, please? And, sonny, who is she? Now, a bit of a smile, Mr. Winslow. A sad smile, if you don't mind. There we are. Oh.
Arthur Winslow
Oh, grace, Dear, this is Ms. Barnes from the daily news. She's extremely pleased with your window curtains.
Kate Winslow
Oh, how nice. I would so much like to know what they're made of. Well, it's an entirely new material, you know. I'm afraid I don't know what it's called. Father, are we going to be in the daily news?
Arthur Winslow
It appears so.
Kate Winslow
Oh, good. They get the daily news in the school library, and everyone's bound to see it. Well, goodbye, Mr. Winslow. Goodbye, little chap. Goodbye, ma'.
Arthur Winslow
Am.
Kate Winslow
And remember, the darkest hour is just before the dawn. Well, it was very good of you to tell me all that, Mrs. Winslow. I'm sure our readers will be most interested. Father, do you know that the train had 14 coaches?
Arthur Winslow
Did it? Indeed.
Kate Winslow
I walked all the way down from one end to the other.
Arthur Winslow
Remarkable. Now, run upstairs like a good boy and get washed. Sir robert will be here in a few minutes.
Kate Winslow
Okay. Kate, I'm back. Hello, darling. My, how you've grown.
Arthur Winslow
Oh, you can come in, Kate. Ms. Barnes is gone. Thank heavens.
Kate Winslow
Oh, sir, Why, I thought she was charming. Well, dear, I must say that old dress has come out very well. John will never know it isn't brand new. John is late, curse him.
Arthur Winslow
Grace. Go on up in the tender, Ronnie, will you, dear? Oh, and prepare that witch's brew the doctor left for me. I'll come up when you're ready.
Kate Winslow
Oh, but you look lovely, Kate. Lovely, lovely Kate.
Arthur Winslow
Are we both mad, you and I?
Kate Winslow
What's the matter, dear?
Arthur Winslow
I don't know. I feel suddenly suicidally inclined. A father's fight for his little boy's honor. Special appeal to all women. Photo insert of Mrs. Winslow's curtains. So we just drop the whole thing?
Kate Winslow
I don't consider that a serious question.
Arthur Winslow
You realize that if we go on your marriage settlement, the money I've been saving for you, it must go.
Kate Winslow
Oh, I gave that up for last weeks ago.
Arthur Winslow
Things. Things are all right between you and John, aren't they?
Kate Winslow
Oh, but of course, darling.
Arthur Winslow
I mean, it's wouldn't make any difference between you two, will it?
Kate Winslow
Oh, good heavens, no.
Arthur Winslow
Very well, then. Let's pin our faith on sir Robert Morton.
Kate Winslow
You know what I think of sir Robert Morton, father.
Arthur Winslow
I want the best.
Kate Winslow
The best in this case certainly isn't Morton.
Arthur Winslow
Why does everyone say he is?
Kate Winslow
Because if one happens to be a large monopoly attacking a trade union or a tory newspaper libeling a labor leader, then he is the best. But it utterly defeats me. How you or anyone else could expect a man of his record to have even a Of his heart in a case where the shoe is entirely on the other foot.
Arthur Winslow
I imagine if his heart isn't in it, he won't accept.
Kate Winslow
Oh, he might. It depends what there is in it for him. Luckily, there isn't much.
Arthur Winslow
There's a fairly substantial check.
Kate Winslow
Oh, he doesn't need money.
Arthur Winslow
Well, what does he want, then?
Kate Winslow
Anything that advances his interests.
Arthur Winslow
You're prejudiced because he spoke against women's suffrage, is that it?
Kate Winslow
Yes. And because he's always speaking about against what is right and just also. Arthur, dear.
Arthur Winslow
Coming. Coming. You're my only ally, Kate. Without you, I should have given up long ago.
Kate Winslow
Oh, grabbish.
Arthur Winslow
But I. I do have an instinct about Morton.
Kate Winslow
Yes, father?
Arthur Winslow
Oh, we'll see which is right, my instinct or your reason.
Kate Winslow
I'm afraid we will.
Arthur Winslow
Hello, Kate.
Kate Winslow
What's the matter, Dickie?
Arthur Winslow
Haven't you heard? Father says I'm through at Oxford at the end of the year.
Kate Winslow
Oh, Dickie, I'm awfully sorry.
Arthur Winslow
Did you know it was in the wind?
Kate Winslow
Well, I knew there was a risk There are many things Father can't afford anymore.
Arthur Winslow
I could just about murder that little Ronnie. What's he have to go about pinching postal orders for? And what's worse, why does he have to get himself nabbed doing it?
Kate Winslow
That's enough, Vicki.
Arthur Winslow
Silly little blighter. A five shilling postal order and my college career is ended. Oh, well, it'll all work out, I suppose. The old man says they'll find me a job in the bank.
Kate Winslow
It's all right, Violet. I'll answer it. John. It better be. Oh, I'm so sorry. I was expecting a friend.
Arthur Winslow
Good evening. My name is Morton.
Kate Winslow
My name is Winslow. Won't you come in? My father will be down in a moment.
Arthur Winslow
Thank you. I have a dinner engagement. My time is rather limited.
Kate Winslow
Oh, I see. Is there anything I can get for you? A whiskey and soda, brandy?
Arthur Winslow
No, thank you.
Kate Winslow
Will you smoke?
Arthur Winslow
No, thank you.
Kate Winslow
I hope you don't mind if I do.
Arthur Winslow
Why should I?
Kate Winslow
Well, some people find it shocking.
Arthur Winslow
A lady in her own home is surely entitled to behave as she wishes.
Kate Winslow
You're looking at your watch. May I ask what time you're dining?
Arthur Winslow
Eight o'. Clock.
Kate Winslow
Far from here?
Arthur Winslow
Devonshire House.
Kate Winslow
Oh. Then of course, you mustn't on any account be late.
Arthur Winslow
No.
Kate Winslow
I suppose you know the history of this case, Sir Robert.
Arthur Winslow
I've seen most of the relevant documents.
Kate Winslow
Do you think we can bring the case into court on a collusive action?
Arthur Winslow
I really have no idea.
Kate Winslow
Desmond Curry seems to think that might hold.
Arthur Winslow
Does he? Desmond Curry is a very reliable man.
Kate Winslow
I'm rather surprised that a case of this sort should interest you at all.
Arthur Winslow
Are you?
Kate Winslow
It seems such a very trivial affair compared to most of your great triumphs. I was in court during your cross examination of Len Rogers in the trades union embezzlement case.
Arthur Winslow
Really?
Kate Winslow
It was masterly.
Arthur Winslow
Thank you.
Kate Winslow
I suppose you heard that he committed suicide a few months ago.
Arthur Winslow
Yes, I had heard.
Kate Winslow
Many people believed him innocent, you know.
Arthur Winslow
As it happens, however, he was guilty. Oh, Sir Robert, I'm Arthur Winslow. How do you do?
Kate Winslow
He's dining at Devonshire House, Father. He's rather pressed for time.
Arthur Winslow
My son will be down directly. I expect you want to question him. I fear I'll have time for only a few questions. Rather sorry to hear that. I was hoping to know definitely if you'd accept this case or not.
Kate Winslow
Perhaps Sir Robert will consent to finish his examination some other time.
Arthur Winslow
It might be arranged sometime next week. Desmond Curry has been telling me that you think it might be possible to proceed by Petition of right? Well, granting the assumption that the Admiralty, like the Crown, can do no wrong.
Kate Winslow
But I. I thought that was exactly the assumption we refused to grant three months ago.
Arthur Winslow
The subject ensued the Crown by petition of right, Ms. Winslow. Redress being granted as a matter of grace. It is the custom of the Attorney General on behalf of the Crown, to endorse the petition and allow the case to come to trial. It is interesting to note that the exact words used on such occasions are let. Let right be done. Let right be done. Yes, Father. All new drinks are now at McDonald's with refreshers like the Strawberry Watermelon Refresher and the Mango Pineapple Refresher with popping boba. To crafted sodas like the Sprite Berry Blast with berry flavors and cold foam. Who knew ice cold drinks could be so fire six? All new drinks are here now at McDonald's. Refreshers contain caffeine.
Kate Winslow
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Arthur Winslow
Oh, this is my son, Ronnie. This is Sir Robert Morton.
Kate Winslow
Well, how do you do, sir?
Arthur Winslow
I'm going to ask you a few questions. You must answer them truthfully as. As you always have. I expect you'd like us to leave. No. Provided that you don't interrupt. Ms. Winslow, will you please sit down?
Kate Winslow
What? Oh.
Arthur Winslow
Now tell me, Master Winslow, exactly what happened?
Kate Winslow
Well, it was last year, sir, the 7th of July. Just before lunch. I went to see the chief petty officer and asked him to let me have 15 and six out of what I had in the college bank.
Arthur Winslow
Why?
Kate Winslow
I wanted to buy an air pistol.
Arthur Winslow
And how much money did you have in the college bank?
Kate Winslow
Two pounds, three shillings.
Arthur Winslow
You see, sir, what possible incentive could there be to steal five shillings? I must ask you not to interrupt. After you'd withdrawn the 15 and 6, what did you do?
Kate Winslow
I had lunch. Then what I went to the locker room to put the 15 and 6 in my locker. And then I went to get permission to go down to the post office. Then I went back to the locker room, got up my money and went down to the post office.
Arthur Winslow
Well, I bought my postal order for 15 and 6.
Kate Winslow
Yes. Then I went back to college. Then I met Charlie Elliot, and he said, I say, isn't it rot? Someone's broken into my locker and pinched a postal order. I reported it to the poor.
Arthur Winslow
Those were Charlie Elliott's exact words.
Kate Winslow
He might have used another word for rot.
Arthur Winslow
Continue.
Kate Winslow
Well, then, just before class, I was told to see the commander. The woman from the post office was there. And the commander said, is this the boy? And she said, it might be. I can't be sure. They all look so much alike.
Arthur Winslow
You see, she couldn't identify Mr. Winslow. Please go on.
Kate Winslow
Then she said, I only know that the boy who bought a postal order for 15 and six was the same boy that cashed one for five shillings. So the commander said, did you buy a postal order for 15 and 6? And I said, yes. Then they made me write Charles name on an envelope and compared it to the signature on the postal order. Then they sent me to the sanatorium, and 10 days later I was sacked. I mean, expelled.
Arthur Winslow
I see. Well, when the commander asked you to write Elliot's name in an envelope, what did you write?
Kate Winslow
I wrote, charles K. Elliot.
Arthur Winslow
Why?
Kate Winslow
Because that was the way that Charlie usually signed his name.
Arthur Winslow
How did you know?
Kate Winslow
Well, he. He was a friend of mine.
Arthur Winslow
That's no answer. How did you know?
Kate Winslow
I'd seen him sign things.
Arthur Winslow
What things?
Kate Winslow
Ordinary things.
Arthur Winslow
What things?
Kate Winslow
Bits of paper.
Arthur Winslow
Bits of paper? Why did he sign his name on bits of paper?
Kate Winslow
I don't know.
Arthur Winslow
You do know. Why did he sign his name on bits of paper?
Kate Winslow
He was practicing his signature.
Arthur Winslow
And you saw him?
Kate Winslow
Yes.
Arthur Winslow
Did he know you saw him?
Kate Winslow
Well, yes.
Arthur Winslow
In other words, he showed you exactly how he wrote his signature?
Kate Winslow
Yes, I suppose he did.
Arthur Winslow
Did you practice writing it yourself?
Kate Winslow
I might have.
Arthur Winslow
Just tell me if you did or if you did not.
Kate Winslow
Yes.
Arthur Winslow
Ronnie, you never told me that.
Kate Winslow
It was only for a joke, Father.
Arthur Winslow
Joke or not, the fact is you practiced forging Elliot's signature.
Kate Winslow
It wasn't forging.
Arthur Winslow
Oh. And what would you call it?
Kate Winslow
Well, writing.
Arthur Winslow
Very well writing. Whoever stole the post, Laura, and cashed it, also wrote Elliot's signature, didn't he?
Kate Winslow
Yes.
Arthur Winslow
And oddly enough, in the exact form in which you had earlier been practicing writing his signature.
Kate Winslow
I say, which side are you on?
Arthur Winslow
Don't be impertinent. Are you aware that the Admiralty sent up the forged postal order to Mr. Ridgely Pierce, the greatest handwriting expert in England?
Kate Winslow
Yes, sir.
Arthur Winslow
And you still say you didn't forge that signature?
Kate Winslow
Yes, I do.
Arthur Winslow
In other words, Mr. Risley Pierce doesn't know his job.
Kate Winslow
Well, he's wrong anyway. Really?
Arthur Winslow
Sir Robert, be quiet, please.
Kate Winslow
I won't be quiet. I have a.
Arthur Winslow
When you went into the locker room after lunch, were you alone?
Kate Winslow
I don't remember.
Arthur Winslow
I think you do. Were you alone in the locker room?
Kate Winslow
Yes.
Arthur Winslow
What did you do after leaving the locker room?
Kate Winslow
I told you. I went for permission to go to the post office.
Arthur Winslow
What time was that?
Kate Winslow
About a quarter past two.
Arthur Winslow
Which means that you were alone in the locker room for half an hour.
Kate Winslow
I wasn't there all that time.
Arthur Winslow
How long were you there?
Kate Winslow
About five minutes.
Arthur Winslow
What were you doing for the other 25?
Kate Winslow
I don't remember.
Arthur Winslow
How odd. Your memory is so good about some things and so bad about others.
Kate Winslow
Perhaps I waited outside the CO's office.
Arthur Winslow
And perhaps no one saw you there either.
Kate Winslow
No, I don't think they did.
Arthur Winslow
What were you thinking about outside the CO's office for 25 minutes?
Kate Winslow
I don't even know if I was there. I can't remember. Perhaps I wasn't there at all.
Arthur Winslow
No. Perhaps you were still in the locker room rifling Elliot's locker. Sir Robert, I must ask you, please be quiet.
Kate Winslow
I remember now. I remember someone did see me outside the CO's office. A chap called Casey. I remember I spoke to him.
Arthur Winslow
What did you say?
Kate Winslow
I said, come down to the post office with me. I'm going to cash a postal order. Cash?
Arthur Winslow
Your postal order.
Kate Winslow
I mean get.
Arthur Winslow
You said cash. Why did you say cash if you meant get?
Kate Winslow
I don't know.
Arthur Winslow
I suggest cash was the truth.
Kate Winslow
No. No, it wasn't. It wasn't really. You're muddling me.
Arthur Winslow
You seem very easily muddled. How many other lies have you told?
Kate Winslow
None. Really, I haven't.
Arthur Winslow
I suggest your whole testimony is a lie.
Kate Winslow
No, it's the truth.
Arthur Winslow
I suggest that there's barely one single word of truth in anything you've said, either to me or to the Judge Advocate or to the Commander. I suggest that you broke into Elliot's locker, that you stole the postal order for 5 shillings and cashed it by means of forging his name.
Kate Winslow
I didn't. I didn't.
Arthur Winslow
I suggest that you did it for a joke, meaning to give Elliot the five shillings back, but that when you met him and he Said he'd reported the matter, that you got frightened and decided to keep quiet.
Kate Winslow
No. No, it isn't true.
Arthur Winslow
I suggest by continuing to deny your guilt, you are causing great hardships to your own family and considerable annoyance to high and important persons in this country.
Kate Winslow
That's a disgraceful thing to say.
Arthur Winslow
I suggest that the time has come at last for you to undo some of the misery that you've caused by confessing to us all now that you are a forger, a liar and a thief.
Kate Winslow
I'm not. I'm not. I didn't do it.
Arthur Winslow
Well, this is outrageous.
Kate Winslow
Is it?
Arthur Winslow
The boy is plainly innocent. I accept the case and will do my utmost to bring it to trial. Good evening.
Kate Winslow
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Arthur Winslow
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Arthur Winslow
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Kate Winslow
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Arthur Winslow
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Kate Winslow
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Arthur Winslow
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Kate Winslow
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Arthur Winslow
Act 2 of the Winslow Boys. Starring Raymond as Sir Robert Morton, Dorothy Maguire as Kate, and Brian Ahern as Mr. Winslow. Seven weary months have passed since Sir Robert Morton agreed to defend Master Ronnie Winslow against the government of England. And from Piccadilly Circus to Hong Kong, wherever there are Englishmen, the case is argued endlessly. The theft of the five shillings doesn't seem to matter. What matters, tremendously is whether or not this little boy has the right to sue the British Empire in a court of law. He Its evening now, and Mr. Winslow is reading aloud from the newspaper, concluding with still another attack upon the Admiralty, whereupon the right honorable First Lord leapt to his feet and. Ronnie, I trust my reading isn't keeping you awake. Good heavens, Grace, the boy's asleep.
Kate Winslow
Poor little lamb. It's way past his bedtime.
Arthur Winslow
This very moment, your poor little lamb is responsible for considerable disturbance in the House of Commons. Ronnie, wake up.
Kate Winslow
Oh, yes, Father.
Arthur Winslow
I'm reading the account of the debate.
Kate Winslow
Well, I'm listening, Father. I like to listen with my eyes closed.
Arthur Winslow
Very well. Now then. The House obviously was moved by Sir Robert Morton's resonant use of the words let right be done. Nevertheless, it is argued that cadet Ronald Winslow was a servant of the Crown and therefore has no more right than any other member of His Majesty's forces to sue the Crown in open court to allow him to do so. Oh, he's asleep again.
Kate Winslow
I'd better take him upstairs. He'll be so much more comfy in his little bed.
Arthur Winslow
I dare say, but the debate in the House of Commons continues, and until it's ended, the cause of it all certainly will not make himself comfy in his little bed.
Kate Winslow
Excuse me.
Arthur Winslow
Yeah? Yes, Violet?
Kate Winslow
Three more reporters at the door, sir. Shall I let them in?
Arthur Winslow
No, certainly not.
Kate Winslow
Yes, sir.
Arthur Winslow
Grace. Grace, dear, might this not be a good opportunity to talk to Violet?
Kate Winslow
No, it would not.
Arthur Winslow
Believe me, Grace, putting it off only adds to your worries.
Kate Winslow
It's easy for you to talk, Arthur. You don't have to do it.
Arthur Winslow
I will if you like.
Kate Winslow
No, thank you.
Arthur Winslow
We'll give her excellent references.
Kate Winslow
I won't have it. It's nothing short of brutal to send her packing after all these years.
Arthur Winslow
Facts are brutal things.
Kate Winslow
I don't think I know what facts are anymore.
Arthur Winslow
The facts at this moment are that we have one half of the income we had a year ago and we're living at almost the same rate. However you look at it, that's bad economics.
Kate Winslow
I'm not talking economics. I'm talking about Violet. I'm also talking about the happy home we once had and a future for us and the children. Oh, I wish I could see the sense of it all. There's Ronnie, perfectly happy. He's at a good school and doing very well. No one need ever have known about Osborne if you hadn't gone and shouted it out to the whole world. As it is, whatever happens, he'll go through the rest of his life as the boy in the Winslow case. The boy who stole that postal order.
Arthur Winslow
The boy who didn't steal the postal order.
Kate Winslow
You talk about sacrificing everything for him, but when he's grown up, he won't thank you for it, Arthur. Even though you've given your life to publish his innocence, as you call it, Grace.
Arthur Winslow
Really?
Kate Winslow
Yes, Arthur. Your life. You're destroying yourself. And for what, I'd like to know. For what?
Arthur Winslow
For justice.
Kate Winslow
Justice? Or is it just plain pride and sheer stubbornness?
Arthur Winslow
No, I don't think it is. I really don't think it is.
Kate Winslow
Arthur. I can stand anything if there's a reason for it, but for no reason at all. It's unfair to ask so much of me. It's unfair. What's the matter, Father?
Arthur Winslow
Well, your mother's a little upset.
Kate Winslow
Aren't things going well?
Arthur Winslow
Oh, yes, Ronnie, very well. Very well indeed. By Jove, how does he do it?
Kate Winslow
Sandwiches, sir, for Ms. Case.
Arthur Winslow
Oh, thank you, Violet.
Kate Winslow
She's just come home. She says she'll be right in, sir.
Arthur Winslow
Violet, what do you think of this? Case?
Kate Winslow
No, it's a fine old rumpus, no mistake.
Arthur Winslow
It is, isn't it? A fine old rumpus.
Kate Winslow
And when you think it's all because of our master Ronnie. I have to laugh about it sometimes. I rarely do. Wasting the government's time at his age, Will. Would that be all, sir?
Arthur Winslow
Yes. Yes, Father. That'll be all.
Kate Winslow
Hello, Father.
Arthur Winslow
All alone, Ronnie? But he's sound asleep.
Kate Winslow
Oh, look at him. An honorable member described him not an hour ago as a piteous little figure crying aloud to humanity for justice and redress. I wish you could see him now. Kate.
Arthur Winslow
Kate, what happened? Is the debate over?
Kate Winslow
As good as.
Arthur Winslow
What about it? Are they going to allow us a fair trial?
Kate Winslow
Apparently not.
Arthur Winslow
That's iniquitous. Well, then, we're back where we started, then.
Kate Winslow
It looks like it, dear.
Arthur Winslow
The debate's done us no good at all. But. But didn't Sir Robert make any protest?
Kate Winslow
Not a verbal protest. Something far more spectacular. He'd had his feet on the treasury table and his hat over his eyes and suddenly got up, glared at the first Lord, threw a great bundle of notes on the floor and stalked out of the house. Oh, it made a magnificent effect. If I hadn't known, I could have sworn he was actually indignant.
Arthur Winslow
Of course he was indignant. So would any man of feeling be.
Kate Winslow
Sir Robert is not a man of feeling. I don't think any emotion at all can stir that fishy heart.
Arthur Winslow
Except perhaps a Love of justice.
Kate Winslow
Nonsense. A love of Sir Robert Morton. The man is a fish. A hard, cold blooded, sneering fish. Sir Robert Morton. Beauty.
Arthur Winslow
Good evening. Good evening. I thought I'd call and let you know what's happened, but I see your daughter has forestalled me.
Kate Winslow
You knew I was in the gallery?
Arthur Winslow
In such a charming hat, how could I have missed you? Very good of you to call. Do I detect a small snore coming from the couch? Ah, Master Ronnie. Go, Kate, wake him up. No, no, no, no, please. Besides, I'm sure that since our first encounter, he is rather understandably a trifle nervous of me.
Kate Winslow
Tell me something, Sir Robert. What happened in that first interview to make you so sure of his innocence?
Arthur Winslow
Well, first of all, he made far too many damaging admissions. The guilty person would have been much more on guard. Secondly, I set a trap for him. And thirdly, I left him a loophole. Anyone who was guilty would have fallen into the one and darted through the other. Master Ronald didn't either.
Kate Winslow
The trap was to ask him suddenly what time Elliot put the postal order in his locker. Am I right?
Arthur Winslow
Yes. And the loophole? My suggestion that he'd stolen the poster order as a joke. Had he been guilty, he'd have leapt on that as the lesser of the two evils.
Kate Winslow
You're very clever.
Arthur Winslow
Thank you. Now, my daughter just told me of your demonstration during the First Lord's speech. She described it as magnificent. Did she? It's a very old trick, you know. Know? And nearly always surprisingly effective. Was the First Lord at all put out by it? Did you notice?
Kate Winslow
Oh, how could he have failed to be? Oh, I wish you could have seen it, Father. When did this come?
Arthur Winslow
When did what? Oh, oh, that letter. Some time ago. Do you know the writing?
Kate Winslow
Yes, it's from John's father. I shouldn't bother to read it if I were you.
Arthur Winslow
Oh, but I must. It. It came by special messenger. Forgive me, Sir Robert, if I read it now.
Kate Winslow
Well, what do you think the next step should be, Sir Robert?
Arthur Winslow
The renewal of our efforts to get the Director of Public Prosecutions to act.
Kate Winslow
You think there's any chance of that?
Arthur Winslow
Oh, yes. Since it's mostly a matter of making ourselves a confounded nuisance.
Kate Winslow
We've certainly done that quite successfully so far, thanks to you.
Arthur Winslow
That is perhaps the only quality I was born with. The ability to annoy.
Kate Winslow
Father, Sir Robert thinks we might get the Director of Public Prosecutions to act. Oh, excuse me. I thought you'd finished your letter.
Arthur Winslow
We were discussing how to proceed. Proceed? With the case. Forget the case. All things considered, very little purpose would be served by going on Kate here. Of course we must go on. The choice is mine, sir, not yours. To give up now would be insane. My sanity already has been questioned tonight for going as far as I have. Whatever is in that letter or whatever else has happened to make you lose heart, I insist that we continue. Insist? We? It is for me alone to judge when the time has come to give up. In heaven's name, why? I have made many sacrifices for this case. Some of them I had no right to make, but there is a limit, and I've reached it. I. I'm sorry, sir Robert, but the Winslow case has closed. Balderdash.
Kate Winslow
My father doesn't mean that, sir Robert.
Arthur Winslow
I'm glad to hear it.
Kate Winslow
This letter. Let me explain, okay? To know Sir Robert. This letter is from the father of the man I'm engaged to. We've always known he was opposed to the case, so it comes as no surprise. He says that unless my father promises to drop this whining and reckless agitation, that he'll exert every influence to prevent John's marrying me.
Arthur Winslow
I see. An ultimatum.
Kate Winslow
Yes, but a pointless one.
Arthur Winslow
He has no influence over his son.
Kate Winslow
Oh, yes, but John's of age and his own master.
Arthur Winslow
Well, Mr. Winslow, your daughter seems prepared to take the risk. But I am not. At least until I know how great a risk it is. How do you estimate the risk, Ms. Winslow?
Kate Winslow
Negligible.
Arthur Winslow
I see. Mr. Winslow, I must apologize for speaking to you as I did just now. Oh? You were upset for giving up the case, and to be frank, I liked you for it. Of course, you must decide. As you wish. That is really a Most charming hat, Ms. Winslow.
Kate Winslow
Well, I'm glad you liked it.
Arthur Winslow
It seems decidedly wrong to me that a lady of your political persuasion should be allowed to adorn herself with such a very feminine allurement. It really looks so awful. Like trying to have the best of both worlds.
Kate Winslow
I'm not a militant, sir Robert. I don't go about breaking shop windows with a hammer or pouring acid down letterboxes.
Arthur Winslow
I'm truly glad to hear that. Both those activities would be highly unsuitable in that hat. Tell me, what active steps do you take to propagate your cause?
Kate Winslow
I'm an organizing secretary at the West London Bridge branch of the women's Suffrage association.
Arthur Winslow
Indeed. Is the work hard?
Kate Winslow
Very.
Arthur Winslow
And not, I should imagine, particularly lucrative.
Kate Winslow
Starting in January, I shall be paid two months. £2 a week.
Arthur Winslow
Dear ma', am, what sacrifices you young ladies seem prepared to make. For your conviction.
Kate Winslow
Excuse me. It's your intended. He says could he please have a word with you in private, Ms. John. Tell him. Tell him I'll be right there. Violet. You know what they say. Four wheels move the body, but two wheels move the soul.
Arthur Winslow
Poetry, mate.
Kate Winslow
But don't think my motorcycle or my soul will be moving anytime soon.
Arthur Winslow
Got a flat tire. Oh, that's all right. You ride with Geico motorcycle insurance and got their 247 emergency roadside service. They'll get you back on the road.
Kate Winslow
Ah, beautiful saying. You come up with that.
Arthur Winslow
It's not a saying, it's a Geico motorcycle policy.
Kate Winslow
Tomato, tomato.
Arthur Winslow
It feels good to ride with help. It feels good to Geico. Emergency roadside service is optional coverage. I have no right calling at the Tsar unexpectedly. But I have decided to you. My father's written a letter to your father.
Kate Winslow
I know, I've read it.
Arthur Winslow
Oh, well, what's he done to my father?
Kate Winslow
I don't suppose he'll send one.
Arthur Winslow
You think he'll ignore it?
Kate Winslow
Isn't that the best answer to blackmail?
Arthur Winslow
Well, it was terribly high handed of the old man, I'll admit. But darling, this is going to take the most tactful sort of handling. Otherwise we'll find ourselves in the soup. I mean, dash it all, I can't even live on my army pay as it is. But we're two armies.
Kate Winslow
Then tell me, dear, what do you suggest?
Arthur Winslow
Well, this is the way I see it. Your young brother pinches or he doesn't pinch. A five bob boats lauder. And for over a year you and your father fight a magnificent fight on his behalf. And I'm sure that everyone admonishes one, including your father.
Kate Winslow
Go on, dear.
Arthur Winslow
Well, now, you've had two inquiries. The petition of right case with the Admiralty of thrown out of court and the appeal. And now, amazingly enough, you have the whole House of Commons in a frenzy of article. Now darling, surely that's enough. Surely the case can end there.
Kate Winslow
Yes, I suppose it can.
Arthur Winslow
Bonnie won't mind.
Kate Winslow
No, I know he won't. What's more, I'm not so sure he didn't steal the money in the first place.
Arthur Winslow
Good Lord. But then by in heaven's name, have you and your father spent all this time and money trying to prove his innocence?
Kate Winslow
His innocence of guilt aren't important to me. They are to my father, not to me. I don't believe he did it, but I may be wrong. All that I care about is the people should know that a government department has ignored a fundamental human Right to a fair trial and that it should be forced to acknowledge it. That's all that's important to me, john. But it is terribly important.
Arthur Winslow
Well, darling, look. There's a european war blowing up, There's a coal strike on, and there's a fair chance of civil war in ireland. And yet with all that on its mind, the house of commons takes a whole day to discuss ronnie winslow and his valley postal order. When I'm. Surely that's a little out of proportion.
Kate Winslow
All I know, john, is that if ever the time comes when the house of commons can't find time to discuss a ronnie winslow and his ballet postal order, this country will be a far poorer place than it is now. But you needn't go on, dear. I entirely see your point of view.
Arthur Winslow
Well, then, darling.
Kate Winslow
You want to marry me, john?
Arthur Winslow
Well, of course I do. Oh, you know I do. I, I I'm only telling you what I think is best for us.
Kate Winslow
Even if we gave up the case, you'd still want to marry the winslow girl.
Arthur Winslow
All that would blow over in no time.
Kate Winslow
And we'd have the allowance from your father.
Arthur Winslow
Yes.
Kate Winslow
And that's so important?
Arthur Winslow
Well, it is, Darling, I'm sorry, but you can't shame me into saying that it isn't.
Kate Winslow
I didn't mean to shame you, john.
Arthur Winslow
Well, now, what's the answer?
Kate Winslow
I love you, john. I want to be your wife.
Arthur Winslow
Well, then, that's all I want to know. A darling. I was sure nothing so stupid and trivial could possibly come between us.
Kate Winslow
Excuse me. Hello? Yes, Desmond, Will you wait a moment, please? Sir robert desmond curry wants to talk to you on the telephone.
Arthur Winslow
Oh, thank you. I'm sorry to interrupt.
Kate Winslow
You didn't we finished our talk.
Arthur Winslow
Hello? Yes. Oh, I didn't know he was going to speak. I see. Go on. Thank you. There has been a most interesting development in the house. Well, desmond curry tells me the barrister friend of mine has just delivered one of the most scathing denunciations of the government department ever heard in the house. What a shame we miss it, Ms. Winslow. His style is quite superb. Well, the debate revived, of course, and the first lord suddenly found himself under attack from all parts of the house. It appears that rather than risk a party split, he has instructed the attorney general to endorse our petition of right. The case of winslow versus rex can now therefore come to court. Well, sir, what are your instructions? The decision is no longer mine. You must ask my daughter, miss winslow. Forgive, Mr. Robert, but I believe that I can give you miss winslow's decision.
Kate Winslow
John, please do you leave my decision, Sir Robert, the instructions already on the petition. Doesn't it say let right be done?
Arthur Winslow
Okay. Well, then we must endeavor to see that it is. The curtain rises on act 3 of the winslow boy, starring ray milan as sir robert morton, dorothy mcguire as kate, and brian ahern as Mr. Winslow. At long last, the Winslow case has come to trial. And what is even more remarkable, a verdict actually is in the office. At home, Arthur Winslow waits impatiently for Kate to return from the courtroom. These late, great young. Yesterday she was home by half past one.
Kate Winslow
You'll be along Meanwhile. Your lunch is ready, dear. I did it myself.
Arthur Winslow
Where's Violet?
Kate Winslow
At the trial, of course.
Arthur Winslow
Oh, this is incredible. Every member of the household attends the trial except the one person who has the greatest cause for being there.
Kate Winslow
But you know what the doctor said.
Arthur Winslow
Fantastic. I must sit at home in a wheelchair while two years of struggle, hope and abuse hang in the balance.
Kate Winslow
Oh, we had a letter this morning from Dickie.
Arthur Winslow
Vicki. How is he?
Kate Winslow
Splendid, dear, and getting on so well. He says he took Mr. Lamb, the manager, to the races on Saturday. The bank manager, Dickie, said Mr. Lamb had the time of his life and. And lost his shirt.
Arthur Winslow
Did he? I've no doubt. But given the chance, our Dickey will convert the entire reading branch into a bookmaking establishment.
Kate Winslow
Catherine, is that you? Oh, don't report it. Don't they ever go away? Did you bring Ronnie with you, dear? He's having lunch with Desmond Curry. You're to meet him in the corridor. Mother. Poor little pet. He did so well in the witness box yesterday. Guess who was there this morning? John. John. Well, I hope you didn't speak to him. But of course I did. Kate, how could you? What did he say? He wished us luck. What impertinence. The idea of his coming there after the way he's treated you.
Arthur Winslow
No. Great. You'll be late for the afternoon session.
Kate Winslow
Oh, well, I'm off then, dear. Now, don't let your father leave that wheelchair, darling.
Arthur Winslow
Well, well, how did it go?
Kate Winslow
I'm. I'm not sure, Father. Oh, but I could fearfully strangle that old brute of a judge. He's dead set against it.
Arthur Winslow
Does Sir Robert share that opinion?
Kate Winslow
Who knows? He's worried. That much I do know. I must admit the Attorney General's speech this morning was very clever. Do you think a verdict for Ronnie would simultaneously course mutiny in the Royal Navy and jubilation in Berlin?
Arthur Winslow
I wish you could be there this afternoon.
Kate Winslow
And have Mother miss out again?
Arthur Winslow
You know Mother doesn't understand a word of what's going on.
Kate Winslow
No, but she does enjoy it so, dear.
Arthur Winslow
But what about Sir Robert?
Kate Winslow
Well, he finished his gross examination of the post mistress. Oh, I thought he demolished her completely. He admitted he couldn't identify Ronnie, that she couldn't be sure of the tiny canyon and that all Osborne cadets looked alike to her in their uniforms. So that it might easily have been mother who cashed the five shillings.
Arthur Winslow
Good, good.
Kate Winslow
Then when he finished, the attorney general asked her again whether she was absolutely positive that the same boy that bought the 15 and 6 postal order also cast the 5 Finn one. And she said yes, she was quite, quite sure because Ronnie was such a good looking little boy. If she'd noticed him especially. Oh, I could see those 12 good men and two nodding away at each other. I believe it undid the whole of Sir Robert's cross examination.
Arthur Winslow
She thought Ronnie was especially good looking. Why didn't she identify him two years ago? Oh, Kate, this is our last chance. Are we going to lose?
Kate Winslow
I don't know.
Arthur Winslow
I wonder if you were right, if we could have found a better man than Sir Robert.
Kate Winslow
No.
Arthur Winslow
Oh, you admit that now?
Kate Winslow
Only that he's the best advocate in England and for some reason trustees, I suppose. He seems genuinely anxious to win. I don't go back on anything else I've ever said about him.
Arthur Winslow
The newspapers say he began this morning by telling the judge he felt ill. Might have to ask for an adjournment.
Kate Winslow
Just another trip, dear. It got him the sympathy of the court and possibly provided him with an excuse if we should lose.
Arthur Winslow
If we should lose. May I come in?
Kate Winslow
Oh, Desmond, of course.
Arthur Winslow
I ended my way of the kitchen. The crowds at the front door rarely most alarming. Oh, sit down, Desmond. I wonder if I might see Catherine alone. I have a matter of some urgency to communicate to her. Oh, very well. I'll finish my lunch. Kate. Oh, allow me, please. Oh. Take your hands off this wheelchair, hear me? I can manage without assistance, thank you, Desmond. Well, Desmond, I have only a moment.
Kate Winslow
Kate.
Arthur Winslow
I really should get back to court, but it suddenly occurred to me during the lunch. But I had better see you today.
Kate Winslow
Really? Why?
Arthur Winslow
I have a question to put to you, which if I had postponed until after the verdict, you might, who knows, have thought it prompted by pity. If we had lost or if we had won, your reply might again, who knows, have been influenced by gratitude. You follow me?
Kate Winslow
As a matter of fact, I think I do.
Arthur Winslow
Ah, then possibly you have some inkling of what the question is.
Kate Winslow
Yes, and I need hardly Tell you how grateful I am.
Arthur Winslow
There is no need, Kate. Oh, no need at all. However, I know very well what your feelings for me really are.
Kate Winslow
Do you, Desmond?
Arthur Winslow
I've known you so long, dear Kate, and I've proposed to you so many times before. That is, up until your recent betrothal,
Kate Winslow
which is now no more.
Arthur Winslow
And thus permits me to again, if I may say so, examine the facts which are fact one, you don't love me and never can. Fact too. I love you. Always have and always will. That, then is the situation. No matter what you feel or do not feel for me, I want you to be my wife.
Kate Winslow
Thank you, Desmond.
Arthur Winslow
Oh, there is so much more that I should like to say, But I shall put it all in a letter.
Kate Winslow
Yes, Desmond, do.
Arthur Winslow
Now I must get back to court. How do you think it went this morning? What a brilliant cross examination. Was it now? Oh, he is a strange man, sir Robert.
Kate Winslow
Time so cold and distant and fish like. Fish like.
Arthur Winslow
Exactly. And yet he has a real passion about this case. Oh, a real passion. I happen to know. Of course this must on no account go any further, but I happen to know that he has made a very great personal sacrifice in order to bring it to court.
Kate Winslow
Sacrifice? Of what? Some other case.
Arthur Winslow
Oh, no, that would be no sacrifice to him. Oh, no. He was offered the appointment to lord chief justice. He turned it down simply to carry on with Winslow versus Rex. Strange are the ways of men, are they not? Goodbye, dear Kate.
Kate Winslow
Goodbye, Desmond.
Arthur Winslow
Well, what did Desmond want?
Kate Winslow
To marry me.
Arthur Winslow
What, again? Here, Lunatic.
Kate Winslow
Oh, I don't know. He's nice and he's doing very well. I told him I'd think it over.
Arthur Winslow
By all means, as long as you decide against it.
Kate Winslow
Father, I'm 30 years old.
Arthur Winslow
30 isn't the end of life.
Kate Winslow
It might be for an unmarried woman with not much look.
Arthur Winslow
Rubbish. Better power to live and die an old maid than to marry Desmond Curry.
Kate Winslow
Even an old maid must eat.
Arthur Winslow
I. I'm leaving you and your mother everything you know. There is still little left. Oh, there must be something you can do, something useful.
Kate Winslow
You don't think suffrage work is useful? Well, maybe you're right, but it's the only work I'm fitted for, all the same. So the choice is quite simple, father. Either I marry Desmond and settle down to quite a comfortable and not really useless, or I go on for the rest of my life earning two pounds a week in the service of a hopeless cause.
Arthur Winslow
Hopeless? I never heard you say that before.
Kate Winslow
I never felt it before. John's going to be Married next month. Is he the girl I. Most likely. He's a general's daughter.
Arthur Winslow
Very suitable, my dear. Oh, I've messed up your life.
Kate Winslow
No. Any messing up that's been done has been done by me.
Arthur Winslow
I'm so sorry. Sorry, Kate.
Kate Winslow
Thank you. We both knew what we were doing.
Arthur Winslow
Oh, have we just been stubborn? Selfishly refusing to admit defeat? That's what your mother thinks.
Kate Winslow
Father, if you could go back and choose again, would your choice be different? No, I don't think it would.
Arthur Winslow
I don't think so either.
Kate Winslow
I still say we both knew what we were doing and we were right to do it.
Arthur Winslow
But you aren't going to marry Desmond, are you?
Kate Winslow
Well, in the golden words of the prime minister, father, wait and see here.
Arthur Winslow
Say, do you hear a newsboy? What's he shouting?
Kate Winslow
Let me open a window. Only Winslow Place latest didn't sound to
Arthur Winslow
me like late it.
Kate Winslow
You're right. Winslow Place resolved result. But the verdict wasn't to come in till tomorrow. There must be some mistake. Oh, sir. Sir.
Arthur Winslow
Violet, come in here. What happened?
Kate Winslow
Oh, Miss Kate was in, the mistress. They came back from lunch. And Mrs. Winslow, she wasn't there neither. Nor master Ronnie. The cheering and the shouting and the carrying on. Oh, you never heard anything like it in all your life. And sir Robert standing there at the table with his wig on crooked and the tears running down his face, running down they were. And not able to sit because of annoying. And then some man behind me, he knocked my hat down over my face. He was hearing Saul waving his arms and shouting about liberty. And the judge kept on shouting, but it wasn't any good because by now the jury was sharing poo. And some of them cried right out of the box to shake hands with the robber and get outside in the street, they were so smoking. Good old wind blowing. And I have my hat knocked off again, and this time for gorge. Oh, it was lovely. Well, sir, you must be feeling nice and pleased now that it's all over.
Arthur Winslow
Yes, Violet, I am.
Kate Winslow
Two years, but one month it's been so fancy.
Arthur Winslow
Yes.
Kate Winslow
Poor madam. What a shock when she gets to court and finds a all over. Well, congratulations, sir. I'm so.
Arthur Winslow
Oh, thank you, Violet. Thank you. Well. Well, it would appear then that we've won.
Kate Winslow
Yes, father, it would appear that we've won.
Arthur Winslow
I would have liked to be there.
Kate Winslow
Mr. Winlo is here. Sir Robert Morton.
Arthur Winslow
I thought you might like to hear the actual terms of Lieutenant General St. So I jotted it down for you, Mr. Winslow. And now I should read it. I Say now, on behalf of the Admiralty, that I accept the declaration of Ronald Arthur Winslow and that he is innocent of all charges brought against him two years ago at the Royal Naval College, Osborne. I make this statement without any reservation, intending it to be a complete acceptance of the boy's innocence. It's rather difficult to find the words. I. Please don't trouble to search for them. Let us take these rather tiresome expressions of gratitude for granted, shall we? Now, on the question of damages and costs, I fear we shall find the Admiralty rather naked lame. You are likely still to be left considerably out of pocket, however, and doubtless we can apply a slight spur to the first lords for Syria and the House of Commons. No, please, no more trouble, I beg of you. This is oh I've ever asked for. It's a pity we're not in court, Ms. Winslow. The verdict appeared to cause quite a storm.
Kate Winslow
So I heard. But why did they surrender so suddenly?
Arthur Winslow
It was a foregone conclusion. Once the handwriting expert had been discredited, I knew then we had a sporting chance. And no jury in the world was convicted the postmistress's evidence.
Kate Winslow
But this morning you seemed so depressed.
Arthur Winslow
Did I? Well, the heat in the courtroom was very trying, you know, and I was ready for tea.
Kate Winslow
Oh, sir, the gentlemen at the front door say please were to make a statement. They say they won't go away until you do.
Arthur Winslow
Oh, very well, Violet. Thank you.
Kate Winslow
Yes, sir.
Arthur Winslow
Oh, Sir Robert. What shall I say? I hardly think it matters. Whatever you say will have little bearing on what they'll write. What. What shall I say, Kate?
Kate Winslow
You'll think of something, Father. Here, let me wheel you out.
Arthur Winslow
No, no, no. Just hand me my cane. I. I refuse to meet the press in this. This ridiculous chariot. I. I could say I'm happy to have lived long enough to have been justice done to my sons.
Kate Winslow
Isn't that a little gloomy? You're going to live for ages. Yes.
Arthur Winslow
Am I? You'll wait and see. I could say the victory is not mine, that it's the. The people who are triumphant, as they always will, triumph over desperately. How does that start you, Sir Robert? A little. A little bit pretentious, perhaps. I should say it nonetheless. It'll be very popular. Well, perhaps I'd better say what I really feel, which is? Really. Thank God we beat them. Ms. Winlow, might I be rude enough to ask you for a little of your excellent whisky?
Kate Winslow
Oh, yes, of course.
Arthur Winslow
Thank you. And with your forgiveness, I shall sit down.
Kate Winslow
Sir Robert, are you feeling all right?
Arthur Winslow
Just a slight Nervous reaction I've not been feeling myself all day. I told the judge so this morning, if you remember. But I doubt if he believed me. He thought it was a trick. What suspicious minds people have, have they not?
Kate Winslow
Yes. Your whiskey.
Arthur Winslow
Thank you.
Kate Winslow
I'm afraid I have a confession and an apology to make.
Arthur Winslow
My dear, you, young lady, I'm sure the one is rash and the other superf. I would far rather hear neither.
Kate Winslow
I'm afraid you must, since this is probably the last time I shall see you. I have entirely misjudged your attitude. I've. I've been rude and ungrateful. I'm sincerely and humbly sorry.
Arthur Winslow
Oh, rubbish. My attitude has been quite the same as yours. The determination to win at all costs. Only when you talk of the gratitude, you must remember that these costs were not mine but yours.
Kate Winslow
Were they not also yours, sir Robert?
Arthur Winslow
I beg your pardon.
Kate Winslow
Haven't you two made a very special sacrifice?
Arthur Winslow
Your own through that office is undisputed. Me?
Kate Winslow
Wouldn't they?
Arthur Winslow
And what's more, I fully intend to report Mr. Desmond C. Of the law society.
Kate Winslow
Oh, please, Joan. He did me a great service by telling me.
Arthur Winslow
Well, I must ask you never to. To devote it to another living soul and to forget it yourself.
Kate Winslow
Why are you always at such pains to prevent people from knowing the truth about you?
Arthur Winslow
Am I indeed?
Kate Winslow
You know you are. Why? Why are you so ashamed of your emotions?
Arthur Winslow
Because as a lawyer, I must necessarily discuss him.
Kate Winslow
Why?
Arthur Winslow
To fight a case on emotional grounds is the surest way of losing it. Emotions muddy the issue. Cold, clear logic and bucket sard to be the lawyer's only equipment.
Kate Winslow
Was it cold, clear logic that made you weep today at the fairest?
Arthur Winslow
Your maid, I suppose, told you that? No. Doesn't matter. In the papers tomorrow anyway. Very well, then. If you must have it, here it is. I wept today because right had been done.
Kate Winslow
Not justice.
Arthur Winslow
No, not justice. Right. It's not hard to do justice, but very hard to do right. Unfortunately, while the appeal of justice is intellectual, the appeal of right appears for some odd reason to induce cares in court. That is my answer and my excuse. Now may I leave the witness box?
Kate Winslow
No. One last question. How can you reconcile your support of Winslow against the crown with your narrow political belief?
Arthur Winslow
Very easily. No one party has a monopoly of concerns with individual liberty. On that issue, all parties are united.
Kate Winslow
I don't think so.
Arthur Winslow
You don't?
Kate Winslow
No. Not all parties. Only some people from all parties.
Arthur Winslow
That is the wise remark. We can only hope then that those some people will always prove enough people. You know, you'd make a good advocate.
Kate Winslow
Would I?
Arthur Winslow
Why don't you channel your feministic impulses toward the law court, Mr. And abandon the lost cause of woman suffering?
Kate Winslow
Because I don't believe it is a lost cause.
Arthur Winslow
No. Are you going to continue to pursue it?
Kate Winslow
Certainly.
Arthur Winslow
You'll be wasting your time.
Kate Winslow
I don't think so.
Arthur Winslow
In the House of Commons in days to come, I shall make a point of looking up at the gallery in
Kate Winslow
the in the hope of catching a
Arthur Winslow
glimpse of you in that provocative hat. Whereupon I should I say, Sir Robert,
Kate Winslow
I most often saw Master Winslow.
Arthur Winslow
Are you indeed?
Kate Winslow
I didn't know anything was going to happen this afternoon.
Arthur Winslow
And where were you?
Kate Winslow
At the pictures. Well, I'm most awfully sorry, sir. I think we won, didn't we?
Arthur Winslow
Yes. Yes, we won. Goodbye, Ms. Winslow. Shall I see you in the house then? One day.
Kate Winslow
Yes, Sir Robert, one day. But not in the gallery. Across the hall among the opposition, perhaps.
Arthur Winslow
Goodbye. For three splendid performances, we'd like to congratulate Ray Milan, Dorothy McGuire and Brian Aheard. It's nice to be working with you again, Irving. It's been a long time since we made a picture together. Irving's directed me in picture too. We're old friends.
Kate Winslow
I guess that leaves me out in the cold.
Arthur Winslow
Dorothy, a Lux girl, is always a friend of mine. Particularly when she's such a talented Lux girl. And Dorothy certainly qualifies. Have you seen her latest picture 3 Coins in the Fountain? She's great. And she looks terrific in CinemaScope.
Kate Winslow
Well, thanks. You, Le Soap and I are certainly old friends.
Arthur Winslow
Brian, aren't you also in one of 30th Century Fox's Cinema scoper, Destiny? Yes, Prince Valiant. Little did I think when I left a brilliant career in England to come to America that I'd wind up in a comic strip. But don't mark it. Last week I was offered the part of Canhead in Big Brady. Oh, you'll be great, Ray. Seriously. I was delighted to appear in such a magnificent production at Prince Valiant.
Kate Winslow
And I imagine Ray is delighted with his latest 62 dial M for murder.
Arthur Winslow
No, I wouldn't dial anything for Murder. Wouldn't even pick up the phone. Not even if it was directed by Alfred Hitchcock. Ah, well, that's different now, Irving, how
Kate Winslow
about next week's show? Is it something different?
Arthur Winslow
Yes, it's very unusual. Emotionally adult love story. We've invited two of the top stars of Hollywood to recreate it for you. That exceptionally fine actor Cary Grant, co starring with one of the loveliest ladies of the screen Jean Crane. We will present them in their original roles in one of the finest motion pictures 20th Century Fox has brought to the screen. People will talk. I thought it was a wonderful picture. Good night. Good night. Good night. And thanks for a memorable evening. And now, here's a man with a letter. Yes, it's a letter I got from a woman in New Jersey and I'd like to read it to you. She says, dear Art Link letter. If you'll answer me this, I'll buy a box of Surf. You say that when you wash clothes with surf they smell like sunshine. But whoever said you could smell sunshine? Sign Mrs. Robert Borden. Well, Mrs. Borden, I said it. And I can tell you how to find this out for yourself. You just try the nose test the next time you do your laundry. I mean that when your clothes are still wet or when they're dry, you just hold them right up to your nose real close and give a good sniff. Now if there's a medicinal odor or a stale sour smell, that's not sunshine, is it? But when you wash your clothes with surf, you'll find they smell fresh and clean. And that's what I mean by sunshine. Now these days, all good to try detergents get things clean looking. Surf does that of course. But when it comes to clean laundry, you can't go on looks alone. Suppose to be really clean. Things just have to smell clean too. And you can depend on surf to get things so clean they smell like sunshine. And that means they're clean clear through. So Mrs. Borden and all you ladies who haven't tried surf lately, buy a box of Surf and get to know what sunshine smells like. Get the big money saving economy size box of Surf and put it to the test. Lever Brothers Company, makers of Lux Cor soap and Lux Liquid detergent invite you to be with us again next Monday evening when the Lux Radio Theater presents Cary Grant and Dean Crane in People Will Talk. By the way, those of you with customers television set have a big treat in store. On Thursday, January 28, the Lux Video Theater, our sister show will present a special one hour live telecast a Paramount A Place in the Sun. I'll have more details for you next week. This is Irving Cummings saying good night to you from Hollywood. Gentlemen, a crisis in our schools is growing worse. Three classrooms out of every five are overcrowded. And above all, there's a growing shortage of qualified elementary school teachers. Won't you join and work with your local civic groups and school boards which are actively seeking to improve educational conditions other than our cast night were Martin Dean as Ronnie, Norma Barton as the mother, Helen Cleave as Violet, Mary Flynn as Ms. Barnes, Ben Wright as John, Joe Kearns as Desmond and Alice A. Duncan as Dicky. Our radio play was adapted by F.H. barnett and our music was composed and directed by Rudy Schrager.
Podcast: Harold's Old Time Radio
Episode Date: July 21, 2026
Starring: Ray Milland (Sir Robert Morton), Dorothy McGuire (Kate Winslow), Brian Aherne (Arthur Winslow)
Original Play: Terence Rattigan's The Winslow Boy
Producer: Irving Cummings
Format: Classic radio drama with commercial interruptions (ads omitted in summary)
This episode features a full radio adaptation of The Winslow Boy—a seminal British play dramatizing the true story of a father’s fight for justice in Edwardian England. The story revolves around Arthur Winslow’s determined legal battle to clear his young son Ronnie’s name after he’s expelled from naval college on suspicion of theft. The production explores themes of family loyalty, justice versus bureaucracy, and individual rights, anchored by powerful performances in a rich, emotionally resonant script.
"No, I believe this case has wider implications, Ms. Barnes."
—Arthur Winslow (04:03)
"I have fought this monstrous injustice with every weapon and every means at my disposal. I shall continue to fight."
—Arthur Winslow (06:32)
"Your my only ally, Kate. Without you, I should have given up long ago."
—Arthur Winslow (10:09)
"To fight a case on emotional grounds is the surest way of losing it. Emotions muddy the issue. Cold, clear logic... ought to be the lawyer's only equipment."
—Sir Robert Morton (52:28)
"You talk about sacrificing everything for him, but when he's grown up he won't thank you for it, Arthur... Even though you've given your life to publish his innocence..."
—Grace Winslow (Kate’s mother, 24:58)
"His innocence or guilt aren't important to me... All I care about is that people should know that a government department has ignored a fundamental human Right to a fair trial and that it should be forced to acknowledge it."
—Kate Winslow (34:11)
"Let us take these rather tiresome expressions of gratitude for granted, shall we?"
—Sir Robert Morton (48:23)
"I wept today because right had been done."
—Sir Robert Morton (52:42)
"It's not hard to do justice, but very hard to do right."
—Sir Robert Morton (52:55)
This adaptation of The Winslow Boy resonates as much today as in its original time, examining the cost of standing for personal integrity and due process. With rich characterization, deft dialogue, and a blend of dry wit and poignant emotion, the episode offers a compelling portrayal of what it means to let right be done—even at great personal risk. For those interested in classic legal drama, family stories, or the shape of justice in society, this episode is a must-listen.
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