Christian Parenti

Establishment media sucks August lighting.

Nicholas Holscher

So good luck.

Sean Ryan

Bullshit.

Kurt Mexican

We can't afford why he's commenting this

Christian Parenti

watch and see as his jack golf

Jimmy Dore

the medium speeds and jumps the medium and hits him head on. It's the Jimmy Door Show. Hi everybody. Welcome to today's show. We got a big show. Christian Parenti's coming on later to give us the scoop on what the United States real problem is with Cuba. Or do you say Cuba? We also will have on Nick Holster later to talk about sunscreen actually gives you cancer. We've covered it before but there's a new study out even proving it more. But up first, special guest Anya Perampel. She is the Washington D.C. based journalist contributor to the Gray Zone. She has produced and reported several documentaries including on the ground reports from Korean Peninsula, Palestine, Venezuela and Honduras. And she even wrote a book about Venezuela called Corporate Coup. Venezuela and the End of the US Empire is currently ranked number one on Amazon in the Venezuelan history category. Welcome to the show. Anya Pepel. Yes, yes it is.

Anya Perampel

You know how to sell my book better than I do.

Jimmy Dore

Fantastic. She's here. Also, Kurt Mexican is with us. America's comedian, Kurt Mexican, the star, star kabbalist.

Kurt Mexican

Actually Jimmy, I don't know if you know that.

Jimmy Dore

I did not. Kurt is the star of Mystery Boys podcast number one on the charts.

Kurt Mexican

Is it?

Jimmy Dore

I don't know. It was at some point. It was. So I have. We want to talk about. There was an earthquake. There are actually two earthquakes in Venezuela. And as of July 3rd, the official death toll from the June 24th twin earthquakes, magnitude 7.2 heavy and 7.5. Those are big. It stands at 2,595 death. The figure has risen steadily with ongoing rescue and recovery efforts. Key details, over 1200, 12,500 people were injured, some missing. Tens of thousands remain unaccounted for, raising concerns that the final death toll could be significantly higher. Some forensic workers and officials on the ground believe the official count underrepresents the true number. The earthquakes cause widespread destruction, especially in coastal areas near Caracas and La Guara. International aid continues to support search and recovery figures. So I just want to show you a little bit of this. This is satellite images from La Guiara. Am I saying that correctly? Anya Laguiara, Laguayra, La Guayra at this is going to show you the devastation caused by the double earthquake. Let's watch a little bit of it. Boom. Whoa. It looks like. It looks like Lebanon and Israel's bombing it, but it's not. It's an earthquake.

Steph

Wow.

Jimmy Dore

Wow. So that's some pretty heavy duty stuff. What are you here, what are you hearing from Venezuela on the devastation, Anya?

Anya Perampel

That it's unimaginable, looking at that. I mean, can you imagine the horror of the people that were inside those buildings? It just, it's hard to even watch. And so it's been shock for my friends in Venezuela. You know, my, my closest friend there, Diego Siquera, who I write about a lot in the book, and he, you know, couldn't even get out in the first initial days because Caracas and Laguida were. Laguida is like the epicenter of where it was. That's about a 45 minute drive away from Caracas. That's where the airport is and that's where there was this capital city of the state there, Laguaira. It's not the capital of Venezuela, but of the state, the neighboring state. And that's where most of the destruction took place. And just to get there now is almost impossible because of the military and the fact that now it's a militarized zone, so people can't even get in or out. And so those are, you know, that's a friend who I'm relying on, going out every day and just hearing how gradually he sees the reality of the devastation and how, how bad it is, because it's like you can't really process it until you just see it piece by piece. I don't even think that we can from these videos. And so I. But then at the same time, we are. It's this very tricky, fascinating time for Venezuela politically, because they'd already kind of started this process of opening to the United States, partnering with the United States. Questions about how close the current administration is with the United States and the fact that they were conducting airstrikes on Venezuelan territory. The US military was, before this earthquake, that was already a major red line that had been crossed in terms of the takeover of Venezuela's sovereignty or the destruction. And so for this earthquake to come just months into this soft coup, since the US removed the elected leader and put in a vice president. Yes. But has been changing the character of the country a little bit. The timing couldn't have been better for the objectives of the US military to now be on the ground. And in Venezuela, you see American troops in Venezuelan military trucks, and you have the Israelis, for the first time, Israeli people allowed in Venezuela since 2008, when Chavez kicked the Israeli embassy staff out of the country in response to the war that Israel waged in Gaza that year. In 2008, I forget which one that was. Of course, Mack, this is where Max would know exactly the name of the operation. But they. Chavez ended relations with Israel at that time and has always Venezuela since. It was always very vocal in its support for the Palestinian resistance, the axis of resistance, and very vocal in opposition to the Israelis. I mean, Maduro absolutely himself was, was very critical of Israel. And so now to see the government thanking Israel for their presence in the country, that's. That's quite remarkable because, you know, it's one thing to sit back and say they were hit by a catastrophe. You're going to take all the help you could get. I'm not sure if Iran, for example, would accept an Israeli rescue team if their country got hit by a, a devastating earthquake, but hopefully we never have to consider that. It's just if they're there and then they're making your government thank Israel out of, like every other country that's there. It just seems like it's almost a humiliation ritual at that point. And so that is very bizarre and extreme to see as someone who has covered this government or this movement of Chavismo for quite some time.

Jimmy Dore

So let me. You bring up. That's interesting because there are reports of Israelis on the ground there. So I'm going to get to.

Kurt Mexican

I say that's conspiracy talk, and I have to object.

Jimmy Dore

Okay, but we're going to get to that in a second. But first, the thing I want to bring up is that when there was an earthquake back in 2010, Chavez declared that. I mean, in Haiti. He declared that Haiti's earthquake was the clear result of the US Navy test. Meanwhile, Venezuela. So let's watch a little bit of this from rt.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez has once again accused the United States of playing God. But this time it's Haiti's disastrous earthquake that he thinks the US Was behind. Spanish newspaper ABC quotes Chavez as saying that the US Navy launched a weapon

Jimmy Dore

capable of inducing a powerful earthquake off

Anya Perampel

the shore of Haiti.

Jimmy Dore

He adds that this time it was

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

only a drill and the final target is destroying and taking over Iran. The existence of a tectonic weapon has never been proved, but its use is

Jimmy Dore

often suspected by conspiracy theorists.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

For example, the leader of Georgia's Green Party accused Russia of being behind an earthquake on Georgian territory in 2002.

Jimmy Dore

So it's always a conspiracy theory. There's conspiracies that happen every day. Every war is a conspiracy theory. 9, 11. The official story is a conspiracy theory of 18 hijackers. So those. So that it's just funny. How they've weaponized and made that word toxic. Even though conspiracies happen all the time, people are charged in courtrooms across the world with conspiracies every day. I just want to go back to what she was talking about.

Anya Perampel

And theories are things that we often assume are true. Like the theory of gravity. That's what we call it.

Jimmy Dore

The theory of evolution. Yes. So Chavez this is from Live Science. Chavez. US Tectonic weapon caused Haiti Tectonic weapon under testing by the United States caused the Haiti earthquake. According to the Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez who appears to have more of a sci fi background than we thought. President Chavez said the US was playing God by testing devices capable of creating echo type catastrophes. The Spanish newspaper quoted Chavez said the killer earthquake followed a test of a weapon of earthquakes just offshore from Haiti. Apparently the media in Venezuela have reported that the earthquake may be associated with the project called HAARP H AARP which is different than AARP system that can generate violent and unexpected changes in climate. HAARP a high frequency active oral research program is a study run in Alaska directed by the occasional reconfiguration of the properties of the earth's ionosphere to improve satellite communications. That's what it is.

Kurt Mexican

Don't forget ice cube neutrino detector that my buddy Eric Hecker worked at the one Raytheon built.

Jimmy Dore

So. So talk about. That's why I have. So tell me about harps.

Kurt Mexican

Harps? ELF waves extra low frequency of waves and you can bounce those off the ionosphere to do all kinds of stuff. Not just earthquakes, the earthquake things kind of like you know, glass shattering from an opera singer. It was basically that effect. But if you read that mind war paper that Paul Valelli TP USA Great Paul Valelli and Michael Aquino, you know the Satanist with the weird eyebrows wrote yeah they said you could affect people's moods with it. And back then when he was saying this there were all movies coming out show it depicting this Kingsman. That first one shows where everybody's cell phone makes them go crazy. Remember the Rwanda genocide ran those planes C 130s with mini harp equipment in it and everybody goes crazy. You could do a lot of stuff with frequency. You make people see flying saucers and so a plasma light show I bet.

Jimmy Dore

So what was the remind me of the. The thing from the Antarctica.

Kurt Mexican

So neutrinos are these massless particles are almost massive particles that normally only come from space and they had. They had to go to Antarctica because there's no interference from other particles or Something. And then there's. The only reason I became aware of it is because they were talking about how crazy it was that they were detecting neutrinos coming out of the Earth by Antarctica. And I was like, oh, that's weird. Then I don't know, about a year later, I see Eric Hecker in that wave of whistleblower and his story is anything with space aliens. It's about how Raytheon built some kind of direct energy weapon. And of course it is, of course it's that. And he said he thought the New Zealand earthquake, Christchurch earthquakes, were friendly fire from testing it out because he's a sweet, naive kid. But me, as a cynic, I know John Kerry got all the people out, all the American representatives out on his way down to Antarctica to check on the ice caps instead of going to that convention. Real weird coincidences. Before these earthquakes, Fukushima, they were saying that about. Because Japan supposedly had sold some uranium to Iran or something. I don't know how far fetched that is, but they have that stuff. They just admitted to the same stuff from Havana Syndrome which was debunked, but they paid out restitution to the victims of it. So we tested on our own people. That's what that means. Oh, and they were having MK Ultra hearings. All this stuff is connected. It's the same technology, voice to skull all that stuff.

Jimmy Dore

We talked about this just the other day because of the MK Ultra hearings at the Congress and how they can put voices in your head and they've admitted to being able to do this. And so anyway, so there's that part of the story. Is this a real earthquake? Was the. Who knows? But a bigger part of the story I think maybe is that there's kidnappings of children being reported. Now we can't confirm any of this, but. But it was similar to what happened in Haiti. Let me play this for you.

Guest Caller/Commentator

Something just really got me this morning. I was watching videos coming out of Venezuela and what's going on there is worse than what we can imagine. Now I don't have all the answers. All I can do is use my platform and my following to raise awareness on this issue. Because apparently a lot of the people looking for family members, the, the police and military aren't allowing them to get to the areas that they need to get to. But the real disturbing thing that's going on is that apparently they are taking traumatized and orphaned children to use for child trafficking. Which breaks my heart, obviously, because, well, I mean, how evil can you get? I mean, to use Something as horrific as what's happened to then go to the next step and then start taking the children is just a stain on humanity. It's not even humans doing it. These people are evil. They're not even like us. Right. But this is what we're dealing with. And on top of that, the police are robbing what's left of the. Of anything people own out of the rubble. They're just taking stuff and it's just horrific. Like I say, I. I don't have all the answers. You know, those people are. I'm very close to Latin America. I live in Mexico, so I know what the people are like, and I just want to share their suffering in the hope that it raises awareness on the issue. Because what's going on out there is far worse than any of us can imagine. So please share this.

Jimmy Dore

So I just want to. Do you have any information about the looting or what the police and the military are doing?

Anya Perampel

I mean, I've seen videos and, you know, there are instances obviously of people taking advantage of this situation. I don't think that there would be any denying that, especially in a country that is very poor and wasn't experiencing its greatest years, as we've covered many times on the show, the role of US Sanctions and the long war that they've waged on Venezuela in creating that situation. But then once something like this happens anywhere, it's hard. I mean, it's difficult to imagine that people do this, but it's also hard to deny that, that. That there are people that take advantage of. Of not just the situation to loot, but then to take advantage of the most vulnerable people, children. And that's something that we saw in Haiti. And there are rumors that it's much worse than we knew. And so wouldn't doubt, I wouldn't doubt that there are forces working to take advantage of children in Venezuela as well. The issue that I saw with this clip is that a lot of people shared it and especially those in the opposition to the government, which at this point, like I said, things are very complicated. The government, even though it was it's Chabismo still in power, and they are claiming and to guard the revolution and carry on the legacy of Maduro and Chavez. There were already very many people that were critical that Venezuela had already turned over some of its sovereignty, too much of its sovereignty to the United States. And what now critics of the government are doing that want to overthrow the government and have for years are doing is using this as justification to say, this is why we need Total US Military occupation of the country. So if people are worried about children getting abused in Venezuela, we have to ask ourselves, well, is the US Military the force that's going to come in and protect children? Are Israeli rescuers or any.

Kurt Mexican

We're going to oversee the operation.

Anya Perampel

Who is honestly, which, which organizations are equipped or Silsbee.

Kurt Mexican

Yeah, the Clinton foundation will be there to help.

Anya Perampel

Yeah. Because nobody, all these institutions pretty much have no legitimacy in the eyes of people anymore. And people know that they're a scam after the experience of Haiti. So. And now you have Trump registering his company to start shipping products and rebuilding Venezuela. And definitely now the US is, is in there. So the children narrative at this point is I'm sure that there are dark things going on. I'm sure that it's going to be used to justify further U.S. intervention. And at this point, it just is a complete flip from where Venezuela would have been when I was covering it five years ago. I would have thought, we would have thought that China and Russia, maybe even Iran were leading the rescue efforts as Venezuela's allies. But on the other hand, it's like those countries were so far away, maybe it wasn't practical to think that Venezuela could be totally reliant on them. In fact, it would be better if the US And Venezuela had this cooperation and we were acting in good faith. Like, that's what I would like. The problem is I don't trust the people running my government. You know, if the US Government were a normal government, then, yeah, I would say we should go in there and help the Venezuelan military recover children. But I don't trust, I don't trust the people in Washington to do that.

Jimmy Dore

So you, so you have a legitimate fear that they're going to use this crisis or maybe even manufacture a bigger crisis of child trafficking than maybe is to justify more US Military occupation.

Anya Perampel

Well, that's just what they're using. It doesn't even matter at this point whether or not this narrative is, is what does it? Because the earthquake itself has created a situation where now the US Military and international groups are the only forces working on the ground. They, they've, they've come in after paralyzing the Venezuelan state. And now that this catastrophe hit, it's kind of like the infrastructure is set up for international aid groups and the US Military to just take over Venezuela. That's what they're, that's what they're doing.

Kurt Mexican

Do you remember Indonesian earthquakes when the same thing happened? And then, and, you know, I don't know, it got filtered in the end of the day is like they were kidnapping people for UFO reasons. But the main things are earthquake kidnapping is the thing that I focus on because this story keeps happening over and over again. There's like an earthquake followed by missing kids.

Jimmy Dore

So.

Kurt Mexican

Well, it happens every time.

Jimmy Dore

Well, here and then we had the

Kurt Mexican

guy from Sound Freedom on that phony that was basically just framing. And the first, the first tip off was he's from Department of Homeland Security. And the second is, oh, it was nobody in America is all the bad people in the brown country doing it.

Anya Perampel

Right.

Kurt Mexican

That's how they go and steal kids. They go, oh, we gotta save them from the bad guys down here in Venezuela, because our leaders have a 22,000 child a day habit of kids. I don't think normal or what they do, but they got a big habit.

Anya Perampel

And that's the sad question here is like nobody trusts anybody actually to have the interests of people. The Venezuelan state, you could say, was what you would assume should come in. And they are in the capacity that they were. They didn't even have heavy lifting vehicles, which was. So for days people were trapped under the rubble. They weren't able to buy the equipment needed, so they had it come in from El Salvador and Mexico. And so for like over two days, people were just trapped under rubble waiting for that. But people, you know, Venezuela has rallied, but there's only so much you can do under these conditions when, when again, this is at. This is the end. This came at the end of a long two and a half decade war against this state. And now right outside the capital, this death blow comes.

Sean Ryan

It's

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

shocking.

Kurt Mexican

So remember Syria, it happened to them and it happened to us. Everybody that crosses us has an earthquake.

Jimmy Dore

It's an earthquake.

Kurt Mexican

It's not just, you know, my knowledge,

Anya Perampel

a great point, because the earthquake in Syria set the stage for the collapse of the state. I mean, again, it came after a long war. The country had already been at war for a decade. Literal civil war. There were groups, armed militant groups controlling wide swaths of the country. And then suddenly part of it is hit with an earthquake. Oh, and guess what? Now the international aid groups and foreign military forces are there after you've already removed the state and suffocated it. Very convenient.

Kurt Mexican

Then of course, like they're doing here, they're going to do it here. It's the big plan.

Jimmy Dore

So of course we know that there is a history of this, certainly with the United States doing this in Haiti. American missionaries in Haiti charged with kidnapping that was connected to Bill Clinton and the Clinton Foundation.

Anya Perampel

Clinton Foundation.

Jimmy Dore

And so let me just show you this real quick. I want to show you this. This is another video. Mother reports that her daughter was rescued and that when she went to look for her, they changed her surname and she disappeared. There's. So let's. All in Spanish. Okay, So I don't speak Spanish, so I thought this was translated, but it's not. She reports that they are stealing the children they find alone after the earthquake. That's according to this news report. But I wanted to show you something very suspicious. Israeli soldiers have been spotted in a hotel in Caracas today. And this is from yesterday, July 1, I mean, from Wednesday. This would be the first Israeli presence in Venezuela since Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez kicked out Israeli diplomats from Venezuela before cutting all relations with Israel in 2009 because of its war on Gaza. Then, as you talked about earlier. So they're. That, that's, that's not a. That's not good. Why, why would they already be there? Why would Israelis. They've got enough problems on their hands right now. Iran, Gaza, Lebanon, Yemen. What, What, Kurt, what do you say?

Kurt Mexican

2009 is that. That's way before Sean Penn killed Chavez, right? I'm kidding. So, okay, Professor Zhang, he said, I think it might show that because. Because remember they were on redacted. A bunch of place were saying that we use these energy weapons to kidnap Chavez and. Yeah, well, they admitted to it.

Jimmy Dore

They admitted that Trump said they used energy weapons.

Kurt Mexican

Yeah. So that's a good clue. They didn't. And he is a CIA. So Chavez gets killed, then Maduro takes over. It's very weird. They kidnapped him and his wife for some reason, almost like extracting them out of the country. And then the government, the Chavista government is still there. He was just like in Greece when the CIA guy ran Greece for a while. Remember Gust from that movie with Tom Hanks, Charlie Wilson's war? The guy Philip Seymour Hoffman played, the CIA installed him as the like the president of Greece for a bit. So we do this all the time. Chavez was the problem. He used to say this stuff all the time. And he was crazy, you know, then he was gone. And then Maduro, nobody likes, even people that were leftists were like, I don't like Maduro. You have to just really hate America, you know, understandably so. But my friends from Venezuela, and they're not all just rich kids that are bitter about some plantation thing. Maduro, it was seen as corrupt. Look what they do with our government, with our fake democracy, right? NGOs follow us out.

Jimmy Dore

So what is this? So right here she says, when the US used the 2010 earthquake to militarily occupy Haiti, Chavez said, I read that 3,000 soldiers are arriving, Marines armed, as if they were going to war. Doctors, medicine, fuel, field hospitals. That's what the US should send. They're occupying Haiti undercover. So it seems like as your fear before. And so there's the Israeli soldiers already. That's not a good look. And let me just put this this is Ex CIA Director David Steele said Israel was created by criminal Zionists. Israel is the single greatest sponsor of of child kidnapping, child PDF files, child torture and child body parts. Harvesting children are more profitable than drugs. That was ex CIA Director David Steele said that. And of course, here is Maria Weiss, Israeli anthropologist, and she says, we do not take organs from Israeli soldiers. We take them from Palestinians or from migrant workers without any consent. Here she is actually saying it. We don't touch soldiers bodies, we take organs from others. They used to take organs from the bodies of Palestinians. And then immigrant workers, and then they're in a skin bank. And it's. What is the organ donation rate given the population of Israel? Almost nothing. SHE LAUGHS so Israelis don't donate the organs, according to this documentary that was on Channel 2 in Israel, yet they

Kurt Mexican

have people recovering Ashkenazi sperm on the battlefield.

Anya Perampel

That's true, Yep.

Jimmy Dore

They actually are doing that. They're actually recovering the Ashkenazi sperm. She says no, because they hardly ever donate Israelis. That's what she's saying.

Kurt Mexican

And that is really anti Semitic, Jimmy. And I'm not just saying that as a Kabbalah expert.

Jimmy Dore

And okay, they don't even tip in

Kurt Mexican

organs is what you.

Jimmy Dore

So that clip I just showed you has circulated widely online in discussions about historical allegations of organ tissue harvesting by Israeli forensic authorities from Palestinian bodies. It was notable, notably tied to admissions by pathologist Yuda Hiss, former head of the Institute, who. Who acknowledged in 2000 interview aired on Channel 2 that organs were taken without permission in the 1990s. The practice was later admitted by Israeli authorities to have occurred, but claimed to have ended. Oh, yeah, I'm sure they stopped. Just like MK Ultra is over and the CIA doesn't overthrow governments anymore. It's all over. It's all in the past.

Kurt Mexican

Of course they stopped trying to do that. Of course. Why would the CIA continue to do that? Why, when they never try to control everything in their sphere all the time?

Jimmy Dore

And just to give you one more piece of info on this, here is Rabbi Yosef Marachi. I'm sure that's not how it's pronounced. Mizrachi here, he's going to admit, he's going to. He's going to talk about how they did this to Yemen children.

Rabbi Yosef Mizrachi

They kidnapped, I don't know how many thousands or hundreds of Yemenite kids today. Few years ago, after Shimon Peres died, they found out that he was the one behind it. And the reason why they were kidnapping Yemenite kids, because they gave them to United States. Because in United States, they used to make all kinds of experiments on black kids. Blacks in those days didn't have rights. Ninety years ago, hundred years ago, they were not like what they are today in America. It was very difficult to be black in those days. So they made all kinds of experiments on black kids until the media here started to make noise. What is this you're doing all kinds of experiments on black kids? It became a lot of noise here. They realized they cannot continue what they are doing. They needed kids. So Shimon Peres told them, I will give you kids, but in one condition. What's the condition? You will convince the French government to build a nuclear facility in Dimona. You will tell them that we need it for civil reasons, not for nuclear bombs. We need power. The nuclear has much more power than regular electric. It can make the whole country run. We need it for, you know, for civil reasons, not for army reasons. And the United States made a deal with him. And they convinced the French government to send their engineers for few years in Israel. They were building the Cour in Dimona, the one that you see today until the last week, the French naive people and government, they really believe that Israel needs this nuclear for electric. Only when it was too late, they found out that it was a scam to begin with, that the Israeli never needed it for electric reason. They needed it to create nuclear bombs to threat the antisemite world that they'll never be able to attack Israel. This is. This is how they believe. Once we have nuclear bombs, no one will mess with us. So that's exactly what happened then. The French were furious when they found out. They went crazy. But it was too late for them. In the meantime, thousands of Yemenites, or I don't know the number. That's why I'm careful. It could be hundreds, could be thousands. There were, you can say, sold to America for that reason.

Kurt Mexican

Why? Why do prominent rabbis know this information and also say it like that. For a minute I thought he was like, exposing something. Then I'm like, wait, is he bragging?

Jimmy Dore

Sounded like he was Bragging sounded a little bit like he was bragging. So did so. Am I nuts? Anya, to. In your mind to try to be suspicious of the Israeli soldiers already there on July 1st and this history they have of this evil, you know, child trafficking and organ harvesting?

Steph

No.

Anya Perampel

And I can tell you that the Venezuelan Chavistas, like, the average people, would say the same thing as you. I mean, come on, who trusts the Israelis at this point? When you let them into your country, what do you think happens? Anything good?

Sean Ryan

Like, I.

Anya Perampel

There's not. When you think about, like, a similar scenario, if you knew that there was a person in your town that was, like, a murderer that killed all of their neighbors and continued to terrorize them and, like, go on a stabbing spree, would you just be like, well, I'm in a crisis in my house. I'm just going to take their help in this one scenario. Like, I don't want to be racist. I would just say this is the last thing that I need.

Kurt Mexican

I don't want to be any Semitic, you know, racist. So, of course I would. I'm very submissive to authority.

Jimmy Dore

So it doesn't look good when you see Israeli soldiers there immediately.

Anya Perampel

No.

Jimmy Dore

And with a history like this and the history of the United States, also, what they did in Haiti, it's. It's not good.

Nicholas Holscher

It's.

Kurt Mexican

Hey, what became a Laura Silsbee? Oh, that's right. She works over at Amber Alert as the vice.

Jimmy Dore

Are you. Are you kidding? You know, she actually did time for child trafficking in Haiti, and Bill Clinton got a lawyer friend of his to get her sentence reduced to, like, elder.

Kurt Mexican

And then fake rabbi from the doctor came and represented her. It looked like he was a Dominican.

Jimmy Dore

That's real.

Kurt Mexican

He was not a rabbi, just some guy, one of the crazy. Oh, you know, we should look out for, in this case, some rock stars to tragically hang themselves from a doorknob while looking into it. That's the next. That's the next pattern that will pop up, I'm sure.

Jimmy Dore

I'm sure. Well, anything you'd like to say about this whole situation, Anya, before we say goodbye?

Anya Perampel

It just breaks my heart. Yeah, it breaks my heart because the people of Venezuela did not want any of this. I mean, they didn't want. It's just not fair to me. You know, I. I really spent a lot of time in that country, and just to. To think about those places that I've been under the rubble now, it's. It's enough. After everything that's happened with Gaza, it's like how did it come to Venezuela like this at this time? The timing was just so stunning. It was like the perfect moment to demolish what remained. And I'm sure there are people in Venezuela that are going to say that the state's holding on and that, I mean, there are like the communes and these different things and an infrastructure there that's outside of Caracas in the capital. And that's all hopeful, but wow. I mean, is God working on the side of these people or are these people playing God? I guess that's the question that, that everybody's asking.

Kurt Mexican

Well, we do that to the kids here. Why wouldn't we do it to Venezuela? Every punk in this country after the Epstein files came out and people I know just blather nonsense and act like it's no big deal. That should have been the end of everything when that came out. Right. Just because they blacked any of it out and didn't release it. But this is a punk ass country that allows anything. It's depraved. So guess what? They do it here all the time. Of course we're going to do it in Venezuela. And the thing to look for now is when Maduro testifies that the democrats in the CIA rigged the 2020 election, because that's what Jang said, we'll know if, if he was CIA or not. And I remember because that's so far fetched, but I remember hearing the stupid Trump administration, wait till you hear about the 2020 election. I was like, oh, it's possible, isn't it? And imagine like a two years from now, them prosecuting that perfectly prosecute. Well, I don't care if he did

Anya Perampel

that, it would be ostensibly to get off, right?

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

Right.

Jimmy Dore

Yeah.

Nicholas Holscher

So, yeah.

Jimmy Dore

So if they, if they got Maduro to testify that they were, whether it's true or not. Correct? Correct. It would be so he could get out of prison before he dies, him and his wife.

Kurt Mexican

It's just funny. Like, like Chavez and what do you always hear about Venezuela? They like Chavez. And then the people have complaints about Maduro and it's the same. It's like here we get rug pulled nonstop. Right. A bunch of people hope Trump was going to do some of the things. Well, no tax on tips. Good for him.

Jimmy Dore

Yeah.

Kurt Mexican

But nothing else. Everything else is rug pull.

Jimmy Dore

Well, he closed the border. And no tax on tips, but I'm

Kurt Mexican

not counting the border because they could have just done that the whole time. It turns out.

Jimmy Dore

Right, Turns out it's like flipping a switch. You don't need a wall. You could Just flip a switch and you can stop immigration.

Kurt Mexican

A lot of emotional energy spent on that wall when it was never an issue about a wall. That's kind of bitter about it being honest as a kabbalist.

Jimmy Dore

Just one more. So how corrupt? So when I saw what happened in Venezuela, Anya, to me it was like, okay, so they found the criminals just below Maduro that they could work with. Not that Maduro isn't also corrupt, most leaders are corrupt. But they found the ones just below him that they could bribe and were the kind of criminals that the criminals in the CIA and the United States government and our economic hitmen could work with. And so now that's really. Who's running the country. Is. Am I wrong about that or how. How do you see it?

Anya Perampel

That's definitely a working theory, but I think that there are. Out there, there are questions here. You could frame it also, as is this. If, If Venezuela, if Del were able to keep Chevy's M.O. as they see it, in power and have good relations with the United States, end sanctions, open up the economy, start bringing oil to the US Again, maybe there are people that would argue that that's better for Venezuela in the, in the, in the long term and that having this hostile relationship where someone's constantly trashing Washington, which was what was happening before. I mean, and, you know, a lot of people here would hear Maduro's criticisms of the United States and think like, oh, I relate to that. Like, I'm not, I'm not, not making a judgment on what, on what was said. But at that time, that was what, you know, animated the Chavista movement. And that was what people looked to it for. But now for it to last, if it's going to last, should it liberalize? I mean, that, that's one argument people could make. Others might say, yeah, the state has completely sold out and collapsed and that that is what happened, that they sold out Maduro and they coordinated it and they, you know, stood down while, While the US Military came in and took him out. Then there are people that would say, well, this happened. The US Military is stronger and mightier than we thought. They came in, they were going to kill everybody. And so Delsey and the rest have a gun to their head and this is what they have to do. History will probably give us more answers than I can right now. But when something like this earthquake happens and you see a red line like the Israelis come in, I think that's when you pretty much have to question what's going on. Because like I said, if this happened in Iran with the government there. Let the Israelis in, like, I don't really know. It seems like you would have to protect yourself from those people.

Jimmy Dore

Correct. Anya Perimpel. I appreciate the author of Corporate Coup Venezuela and the End of US Empire. I appreciate your expertise. Thanks for making time, my friend, and accommodating our schedule.

Anya Perampel

I always see you guys.

Jimmy Dore

Okay. Great to see you. Give your babies a kiss for us. Okay, we're gonna take a break, and when we come back, we're gonna have Nicholas Holzer on to talk about the latest study on sunscreen causing cancer. We'll be right back. Hi, everybody. Welcome back. We have special guests with us. Nicholas Holscher, epidemiologist, administrator at the McCullough Foundation. He's here to talk about the latest study on sunscreen. Hi, Nicholas. How are you?

Nicholas Holscher

I'm great. Thanks for having me.

Jimmy Dore

Now, we've covered this story before, using. Our source was a Midwestern doctor substack. And he did a deep dive and found out that the people who were exposed the most to sun got the least amount of the deadly kind of sun cancer, or skin cancer, which is melanoma. That's the deadliest form. And it turns out that the parts of their skin that didn't get sun was where that kind of cancer showed up. And they've known this for a long time. They've done studies where they've. They've looked at office workers and people who worked outside. And it seems like the more sun you get, the more of kind of a resistance you get to the deadly kind of skin cancer. So I just want to play this. This is. This was you talking to our good friend Matthew Gates.

Christian Parenti

Have I been lied to as a Florida man about sunscreen protecting me from cancer?

Nicholas Holscher

Yes, it appears we've all been lied to. Unfortunately, this massive study of over 470,000 people confirms it. It's very worrisome that when they compared sunscreen users to non sunscreen users, the sunscreen users faced increased risks of all the major skin cancers. Melanoma, squamous cell carcinoma, and basal cell carcinoma. So all of these cancers were up. But the most worrisome finding was that invasive melanoma was 300% higher. Higher risk in the sunscreen users. They accounted for skin color, time spent outdoors, and many other things. Sex, age. And they still found these increased risks of the cancer. When you use sunscreen all the time, you're blocking your body's ability to synthesize vitamin D, which is critical for cancer defense. So you do not want to shut that off. A JAMA study just came out and found all of those active ingredients in the sunscreens get into your circulation, they get into your body above FDA regulatory limits. So what I would say is avoid sunscreens if you really have to use it. If you'll be out in the sun for six hours mid summer day, you still want to use something. I would use zinc based sunscreen, not oxybenzone. None of those hormone disrupting chemicals have

Jimmy Dore

I been so this. So tell me about the latest study. Tell me about. So, because there was, there's been studies out there that we covered. Tell me about the most recent one.

Nicholas Holscher

Well, that, that would be the most recent one. But I think what's important to talk about is the one before that. And then so what led up to this latest one? So before that, the Backstory is in 2018, a meta analysis was published. A meta analysis is literally a combination of every single study ever done on a topic. So they did a meta analysis on the risk, the risk of skin cancer with sunscreen use compared to no sunscreen use. There was 30 studies. So all 30 of these studies since the 1980s was in this meta analysis. When they combined all this 30 studies combined over the 40 years, the odds ratio of getting skin cancer when using sunscreen was over 1. So what that means is all the evidence of the past 50 years shows that, yeah, you are, there is technically a higher risk of getting skin cancer when using sunscreen. Now it was only 8% and technically it wasn't statistically significant. So now we get to the important part. Over those 40 years, there was 370,000 people. Then we got to this next study in 2023 that had 470,000 people bigger, larger than the 30 studies combined previously. And so the latest study found sunscreen users had increased risks of every single type of skin cancer, including invasive melanoma, squamous cell carcinoma and basal cell carcinoma. But the invasive melanoma was 300% higher in the sunscreen users, higher than all the other cancers and particularly what this study did. So not only was it the largest, but they accounted for all the major skin cancer risk factors as the confounding variable. So they were able to isolate the effect of the sunscreen use. So they accounted for time spent outdoors, sunburn history, skin color, age, gender, literally everything. And so that's the state of the epidemiological evidence that, yeah, you use sunscreen, you're at an increased risk of skin cancer.

Jimmy Dore

So I saw when you posted this. So there's a lot, there was a lot of pushback, obviously. So people don't realize that doctors, maybe they do now because of COVID are just as easily bought off and corrupted as a used car salesman. And in fact, you don't, you don't, you don't become a doctor because you oppose what's in the medical books or the medical dogma. You get to become a doctor because you go along with it. And they weed out the, the, the, the people who are rebels. But I, I wanted to. So this is what I'm just going to give an example of the kind of pushback. So this guy asks Gemini. So it asked AI and he says, no, this is completely false. Meaning what? Everything you just said. This claim is a classic piece of online misinformation that heavily distorts how scientific data works. There is no legitimate scientific study showing that sunscreen inherently causes or increases your risk of skin cancer. Now that's not true.

Nicholas Holscher

Is that it's not true. Literally, again, all 30 studies combined in the past 40 years shows actually the risk is increased. I mean, so these individuals, I don't know, they just conflate, they basically make stuff up because they don't want to believe it's true, unfortunately. So what they'll say is, oh, it's just an association. And it's the sunscreen paradox where sunscreen users just go out in the sun more. But that doesn't explain why the study that accounted for going out in the sun more still found the increased risks in cancers.

Jimmy Dore

Well, here's exactly what you're talking about. They claim it's a paradox. Right? So here's what he says. The sunscreen paradox. Why the numbers are secured. When researchers look at large observational population data like the UK Biobank studies, they sometimes find that people who report using sunscreen also have higher rates of skin cancer. However, sunscreen isn't causing the cancer. Who uses sunscreen the most? People who have pale skin, burn easily, have a family history of skin cancer, or plan to spend hours out baking on the beach. These individuals already have a massively elevated baseline risk for skin cancer. So what I said back to that was many. So the research indicates that there's widespread sunscreen use, has not reduced skin cancer rates and in some cases increases it. Like that study in the UK of over 470,000 people. This is from the Midwestern Doctor. It's worth pausing on how the 2023 studies authors handled their own results. Having found that frequent sunscreen use tracked with more skin cancer. They did not consider that their model might be wrong. Instead, they labeled it a paradox, proposed that sunscreen users must be getting more sun or not applying enough or buying sunscreen after their diagnosis, and then concluded that the data demonstrates the importance of adequate and frequent sunscreen. So they went exactly against the data that their own study produced. And he says this is the same reflex behind the French paradox, the puzzle of why the French have less heart disease despite eating more saturated fat, which was only ever a paradox if you assumed saturated fat caused heart disease to begin with. An assumption resting on a far shakier foundation than the public was led to believe, as covered in an article on the manufactured war on cholesterol that was used to push toxic and ineffective but lucrative statins upon everyone. So what he's basically saying is that they. Even though their own study revealed exactly what you're saying, they just said, oh, no, it's just wrong. Even though that's. That study you're quoting, it actually accounted for all these factors. Correct?

Nicholas Holscher

Yeah, correct. It literally accounted for all of those factors mentioned. And once. So when there's basically arguments over these population level estimates, that's when, like you did, we have to look into the biological plausibility. And there's lots of biological plausibility behind sunscreens causing cancer. The first one is that a recent analysis of, like, hundreds of sunscreen products found that 27% of them are contaminated with benzene, a known human carcinogenic. And so now that we have a JAMA study showing that sunscreen ingredients are rapidly absorbed into the bloodstream upon topical administration, that means the benzene is rapidly absorbed into the deep, into the skin. And so you literally are slathering carcinogens over yourself while at the same time blocking vitamin D production, which is literally critical for cancer defense.

Jimmy Dore

It's. So I. You run into this stuff all the time when you post stuff that is heterodox to the. The line on sunscreen or anything medical. Right. That saturated fat causes a heart disease. Or sun. Sun is bad for you. And so you get these doctors who. I don't know where they got their degrees, but this isn't one of them. This guy, Yannick Buchella, M.D. he says there is no evidence sunscreen causes cancer. None. Of course, we just told you about all the studies that say exactly that. The link between unprotected sun exposure and skin cancer, all types, is one of the most well established findings in oncology. Well, I would say it's one of the most well Established narratives in oncology, not actually a finding. Would you agree with that?

Nicholas Holscher

Yeah, I agree with that. Exactly. You know, it's the same kind of dogma with everything we've heard of. You know, they just say, oh, it's the most well established. And it's not. It's just like you said, the most well established narrative that's been perpetuated for many decades. And so those who have clung onto that for, you know, 30 years of their professional life, they don't want to let go of it and they will cling to the old narrative for as long as they can. But you cannot dispute slathering carcinogens on yourself as not possibly causing skin cancer. So they, you know, they don't even look at any of these possible scenarios.

Jimmy Dore

And it's not only the cancer causing chemicals that are in the sunscreen, it's that, correct me if I'm wrong on this. Do some of the chemicals kind of transmute into cancer? So they're not originally cancer causing, but over time or when you put them on your skin and you add sun, it then kind of transmutes them into some kind of cancer causing chemical. Or am I wrong about that?

Nicholas Holscher

Well, that's possible. But so we'll start so starting with benzene that's not supposed to be in there. It's just usually gets there from some contamination during manufacturing. But again, it's in like one in four sunscreens. The other things, the primary active ingredients in many sunscreens are oxybenzone and avobenzone. These are potent hormone disrupting chemicals that are highly toxic to human cells. And so that just simply in and of itself disrupting your hormones and throwing your body out of homeostasis will promote cancer growth. And again, those are literally the primary ingredients, Avobenzone and oxybenzone in many of these sunscreens.

Jimmy Dore

And so it messes with your normal biology and chemistry in your body, throws off your hormones, making you more likely to get cancer.

Nicholas Holscher

Yeah, exactly, exactly.

Jimmy Dore

And so I posted this after that doctor posted his study and I said, honestly, I feel bad for the people who go for your med. And this is right from Live Science. Cancer causing chemical found in 78 sunscreen products. That's, that's not disputed by the way. That's. So the independent lab that made the finding is calling on the FDA to recall these sunscreen products. And then this is the kind of, this is the kind of pushback you get. This guy says for people are going to believe this. The chemical in question is benzene over 70% of sunscreen tested in this study didn't have benzene. I said cool. So you're saying just 30% of the sunscreen causes cancer? Not sure that's the own you think it is. So I mean it's just, that's just. And so let me just give you a little couple more facts. I say I'm citing myriad studies contained in Midwestern Dr. Substack where he cited common toxic chemicals using UV filters and many sunscreens that face scrutiny for potential carcinogens, toxicity, absorption into the bloodstream and doctrine disruption which is what you were just talking about. Skin allergies and environmental harm. Like you can't even wear sunscreen in the ocean when you go swimming in Hawaii because it kills the coral reef. If it kills the coral reef, imagine what it's doing to you after it's already diluted in the seawater. It'll still kill the coral reef. You're putting it right into your bloodstream. And here's some of those chemicals. Oxybenzone most frequently cited as concerning it absorbs readily through the skin, acts as a potential indoctrinate hormone disruptor and has been linked in studies to reproductive issues, allergies, coral bleaching. FDA studies show bloodstream absorption. It's banned in places like Hawaii. Oxte. How do you say that? Oh boy, it doesn't matter. Strong evidence of indoctrin disruption also absorbed systemically and environmentally harmful to reefs. Homosalate potential hormone disruption. So this is all the stuff that's in sunscreen. Here's some more. Avobenzone, some evidence of indoctrinate effects and absorption can deregulate and produce byproducts. And then octocrylene absorbed systemically linked to allergies and potential degradation into benzophenone, a suspected carcinogen. So it then degrades into a different type of chemical that is a suspected carcinogen and then octisalate absorbed through the weak with weaker evidence of other harm. So it's always amazing to me. So we all know, I don't know if you're aware of this but when I did my deep dive into sunscreen that in the 80s dermatology was on the lowest rung of the specialist MD ladder. And so they actually this the dermatology association hooked up with Madison Avenue advertising and they advise them to conflate deadly skin cancer like melanoma with the not deadly skin cancer basal cell carcinoma. By the way, the survival rate of basal cell carcinoma after five years 100%, just to let you know. So they conflated those and they just call it under one umbrella, skin cancer. So now people are afraid of the non deadly lethal skin cancer basal cell, as much as they are afraid of melanoma. Because the dermatology association wanted people to conflate those so then they could get more money doing Mohs surgery, which is how you get rid of basal cell. In fact, they would even do Mohs surgery on. They would go into retirement centers and nursing homes and do Mohs surgeries on people who are about to die. So that's about. It's just a big moneymaker for the dermatology profession. Are you aware of any of that?

Nicholas Holscher

Yeah, it sounds about right. It sounds very accurate, unfortunately. And so. Yeah, so what? So they're going to the nursing homes and cutting moles off of people on their deathbeds. Yes, that's. That's quite shocking. Yes, quite disappointing. And, you know, many. So those the same individuals slathering sunscreen all over themselves are probably in support of that.

Jimmy Dore

Okay, appreciate that. We'll have one more story I want to cover with you. First. Let's throw it to Steph for some super chat.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

All right, ladies and gentlemen, what a show we've had today. Sunscreen. I know, Jimmy, when we were there, when we were on vacation, this guy was standing by us and he was just spraying his sunscreen all over him. And it's like.

Jimmy Dore

Well, there was a cloud of it.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

You told. They told you not to use the stuff. Sunscreen. And then you could just taste it.

Jimmy Dore

There was a. There was immediately. There was a sign by the pool that said you are not allowed to use aerosol sunscreens. And that for that very reason, because it creates a cloud. And then it gets in your iced tea or your water and it gets in. You breathe it in. I could taste. Like you said I could taste it. And they're. And they're spraying it all over everybody. And finally I had to go get the guy working at the poker. Hey, could you tell them to stop it? And they did. But anyway, yeah, go ahead.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

It was a nightmare.

Steph

Okay.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

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Jimmy Dore

Jimmy.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

Back to Jim Jam.

Jimmy Dore

So I want to remind people how we got the mRNA Vaccine, it was never tested successfully. And the vaccine, they never had a successful coronavirus vaccine. And. But they really, really wanted to push this MRNA vaccine. And this is from. From the Milken Institute with Dr. Fau, and he's telling you how they're going to have to scare the hell out of people and make them more afraid of a coronavirus than they should be so then they can institute the rollout of MRNA shots. I don't even call them vaccines, but let's listen. It's very short.

Kurt Mexican

Why don't we blow this system up? I mean, obviously we can't just turn off the spigot on the system we have and then say, hey, everyone in the world should get this new vaccine. We haven't given to anyone yet, but there must be some way that we grow vaccines mostly in eggs the way we did in 1947.

Jimmy Dore

You know why? Because we've been proven that that that works and it's less toxic than an. Mr. So he's saying, why can't we just force this? He. You heard him. Why do we just force this on everybody? Why do. How do we got to get off the old vaccines that everybody's used to taking in their flu shot? We got to get something new on them. And here's what Fauci says. Order to make the transition from getting out of the tried and true egg growing, which we know gives us results that can be, you know, beneficial. I mean, we've done well with that to something that has to be much better. You have to prove that this works, and then you've got to go through all of the clinical trials, phase one, phase two, phase three, and then show that this particular product is going to be good over a period of years. Of course, they didn't do that with the MRNA vaccine. It was rushed through is called warp speed. Is there a better way to bring a medicine to market than at warp speed? And so of course, they didn't do any of that. Like he said. What did they do instead? That alone, if it works perfectly, is going to take a decade.

Guest Caller/Commentator

They might.

Jimmy Dore

Okay, so it didn't. They did it in three months. So it did. They didn't take a decade to study the vaccine. They just rushed it through and here we go.

Christian Parenti

Be a need or even an urgent call for an entity of excitement out there that's completely disruptive, that's not beholden to bureaucratic strings and processes.

Jimmy Dore

So you mean like a pandemic that's manufactured by this guy inventing a virus at the University of North Carolina Shipping it to Wuhan lab and then having it get out, accidentally get out and create a pandemic so we can have this new thing that is not subject to bureaucratic strings. Here's what he says about that. We really do have a problem of how the world perceives influenza. And it's going to be very difficult to change that unless you do it from within and say, I don't care what your perception is. We're going to address the problem in a disruptive way and in an iterative way, which is exactly what they did with COVID I don't care if you're not afraid of coronavirus. We're going to make you afraid of it and we're going to do it in a disruptive way. Was there ever a bigger disruption in humanity than the lockdowns from COVID I don't think so. And so there he is telling you their plan. And that's just like a year before the pandemic. But it is not too crazy to

Christian Parenti

think that an outbreak of novel avian virus could occur in China somewhere. We could get the RNA sequence from that, beam it to a number of regional centers, if not local, if not even in your home at some point and print those vaccines on a patch and self administer.

Jimmy Dore

So if that doesn't tell you exactly that they had this in mind and planned, they were talking about it in front of cameras with microphones. They were admitting their heinous evil plan. They were admitting it. That's what that is. And so now we have doctors, the leading oncologists in the world. Here's one of them. Dr. Professor Angus. I can't pronounce his last name. How do you say his last name?

Nicholas Holscher

Nick Dalglish.

Jimmy Dore

Dalglish. So he's gonna let you know that from his observational studies he is drawing a connection between the MRNA vaccines and cancer. Now let's watch.

Steph

Seeing that people who'd been stable with cancer melanoma for years started relapsing at the beginning of 22. And I asked for any reason why this might occurred. And I noticed they'd all been given boosters by their gps, which if they'd asked me, I wouldn't have done that. And so we had to look around. What's the reason? Why would a booster allow a cancer to come back? Well, it turned out it's very simple. That boosters suppress the T cell response. The first two will increase it a bit, but a booster suppresses it. And that's exactly what we found. That. But then a group From Madrid published a wonderful paper saying T cell exhaustion after third COVID vaccine in cancer patients with an incredible data show. It showed it very, very clearly. And so therefore, any cancer suppressed and controlled by the immune system, you suspect might pop up after the booster. Surgeons noted their colorectal patients were very difficult to treat. They were presenting late and they were presenting young. And they found that these patients had all had the booster too. And they called, you know, a red flag, and I called a red flag that just the suspicion that the vaccine might be involved in the cancer.

Christian Parenti

Are there any studies that have linked the MRNA to cancer? Is there any sort of medical

Steph

process that you can allure to that? The strongest are the epidemiological studies, and the strongest was from japan, A paper by Gibbo and his colleagues, which just had the raw data, and they noticed that the number of new cancer cases went up with each booster vaccine.

Jimmy Dore

So again, this goes against the orthodoxy. And of course, we now know that not only medical boards, but the medical journals are completely corrupted by big pharma money and universities as well, because they all relied on Dr. Fauci to fund their research and give them billions of dollars. And so now when a guy like this comes out and says this, they all attack him as he's some kind of a quack. But just what's your reaction to when you hear this, Nick?

Nicholas Holscher

Yeah, everything he says is 100% accurate. In fact, now, over 70% of the global population was injected with a carcinogenic biological agent, and that biological agent is the MRNA gene transfer injections. We actually now have over a hundred studies showing that the MRNA shots induce cancer or promote cancer by a 17 distinct mechanisms. He mentioned T cell exhaustion was one of them. You also have turning off of tumor suppressor genes, p53 and BRCA hyper inflammation, overall immune dysregulation, as well as just literally decimating multiple organ systems at the same time. Because it goes everywhere in the body. And, you know, it's just a massive list. It's an absolutely massive list of mechanisms. But, you know, the epidemiological data is undeniable. We have four major, major data sets, and there's two in the United States. The first is the CDC wonder mortality data. There's been 138,000 excess cancer deaths in the United States since the MRNA shots rolled out. Again, 138,000 more cancer deaths than normal. And then we had the seer data set come out of the national cancer institute a few months ago. They found that multiple major cancers increased in young Americans Right after the shots rolled out, including stomach cancer, colon cancer, brain tumors, they were up about 19%. So this should not be occurring. And then we had lastly Italian and South Korean studies totaling 8.7 million people combined, comparing vaccinated to unvaccinated. And the vaccinated individuals suffered increased risks of seven major cancers. Colon, prostate, breast, thyroid, all these cancers are up in the vaccinated. So it's undeniable both mechanistically and at the population level.

Jimmy Dore

So there's a chemical called SV40. Now tell me about that. And why has this been found inside the COVID vaccine?

Nicholas Holscher

Yeah, SV40 is a portion of the DNA plasmid at the manufacturing process for the Pfizer MRNA injections. Basically it's there in the DNA plasmid at the factory to churn out the mRNA, to help churn it out. The DNA plasmids are still in the vials. They don't clean them out. They say they do, but they don't. Over 10 studies have found these DNA plasmids including SV40, segment of the plasmids in the vials. And so when you inject it into people's arms, it's encased in the lipid nanoparticles. And we know SV40 is a cancer promoting genetic material and so that's going to get into all of your bodily systems and promote cancer and actually it possibly inserting itself into genomes, portions of this DNA plasmid. And we demonstrated that in a peer reviewed study, we found a segment of this so called vaccine genetic material fused in chromosome 19 in a stage 4 turbo bladder cancer patient. And so you know, it's very bad, it's very, very bad. And that's another mechanism of promoting cancer is insertional mutagenesis or genomic integration of non human synthetic vaccine DNA causing uncontrolled cell growth.

Jimmy Dore

And so here's the South Korean study you were talking about. One year risk of cancers associated with COVID 19 vaccination, a large population based cohort study in South Korea. And I'll just read you a couple of lines from this. The oxygen genetic potential of SARS CoV2 has been hypothetically proposed, but real world Data on the COVID 19 infection and vaccination are insufficient. Therefore, this large scale population based retrospective study in Seoul, South Korea aimed to estimate the cumulative incidences of subsequent risks of overall cancers one year after COVID 19 vaccination. Data from over 8 million individuals between 21 and 23 were obtained from the Korean National Health Insurance Database. The participants were categorized into two groups based on their COVID 19 vaccination status. The risk for overall cancers were assessed using multivariable Cox proportional hazard models and data were expressed as hazard ratios with a 95% confidence interval. The thyroid cancer, gastric cancer, colorectal cancer, lung cancer, breast cancer and prostate cancer significantly increased at a one year post vaccination. So that's a gigantic study. Eight million people. And so why do you, why do you think that today this is still happening, that they're still giving out free Vac MRNA Covid vaccines at cvs? What is going, I mean, is our government just that eagle evil or are they just that corrupt or both?

Nicholas Holscher

It's both. It's both. And honestly, I don't have a good answer as to why they're doing this. It's now at this point, with all this evidence, it does qualify as a form of homicide. It may be mass negligent, we don't know yet. You know, that has to be kind of rolled out. You know, what, what sort of crime is being committed here now? Because we know it's causing these cancers, we know it's actually caused mass deaths. Extreme blood clotting, including white fibrous clots. A study came out on that two days ago. 25% of corpses have these long anomalous clots in them. Now 75% of embalmers are finding them. And yeah, so it's criminal. We now we know the FDA literally covered up 25 safety signals in early 2021. Ron Johnson's team found that out with internal communications between FDA officials. They literally buried a sudden cardiac death signal. It was killing people, children, teenagers, everybody. And they told the scientists that found those signals to cease and desist. Right. So that is a crime to hide death signals from a product you're telling millions of people to get.

Jimmy Dore

And so people have been attacking that professor. And so I asked Grok, please answer my question succinctly, that that professor, who's the oncologist, a world renowned oncologist who's correlating and connecting the shots with cancer. And I said, please answer my question as succinctly as possible without adding commentary or qualifiers. The people attacking the professor, world renowned oncologist, were wrong about most things to do with COVID in retrospect, like lockdown, school closures, vaccine stopping transmission and contract and social distancing. Correct? Grok says yes. So there you go. So when you see someone like that on social media and then you see him being attacked, remember the people attacking him were wrong about everything to do with COVID You'll see, you'll see posts, you'll see posts like this. He's a world renowned grifting quack. That's what people say. And so I asked, I asked rock, I says is, is this world renowned oncologist really world renowned? Is he a leader in the field who was well respected before he spoke out on Covid? Yes, he is a legitimate, well respected oncologist with a strong pre Covid reputation in his field. He's not fringe or unknown. And here's his credentials. He's got great, unbelievable credentials. He's held senior roles in oncology and immunology for decades and he's discovered of CD4 as a major receptor for HIV. He pioneered work on cancer immunotherapy and vaccine and he's contributed to the development of something I can't pronounce which led to him receiving the Joshua Lederberg Prize in 2011. I could go on and on. He's got a great reputation. And I said well is he a quack? And they go no, he's not a quack. He's credentialed in career. He's the founding chair of oncology at St George's University of London since 1991. He's a fellow of respected bodies the Academy of medical Sciences, Royal College's extensive publication record, hundreds of papers he's published strong citations in immunology and oncology and contributions to HIV research and cancer immunotherapy. His pre Covid standing respected in his niche for tumor immunology, cancer vaccines, HIV colleagues view colleagues viewed him as a productive clinic clinician, scientist. So of course after he came out and went against the orthodoxy and told the truth about his findings with cancer and the jabs, now they're calling him a quack. That that's. We've seen this over and over. Not only Dr. McCullough leader in his field but anybody. The guy who's. What's his name, who invented the MRNA vaccine technology, we've had him on the show Dr. Robert Malone. Right again. The guy who has vaccine patents, the guy who invented the MRNA vaccine platform that was based that they used the COVID shot based on. They're not calling him a quack. So anybody who goes against big Pharma's narrative, they're going to call a quack. I just wanted to show people that one of the most leading oncologists in the world they'll also try to dismiss. And what do you think it's going to take, Nick, what do you think it's going to take for regular people to realize that they were lied to about COVID on a scale their brains cannot comprehend?

Nicholas Holscher

It's going to take an injury or death in their family from one of these products. I think in the end, particularly for Those who have received 6, 7, 8, 9 MRNA booster shots, while something bad may not have happened to them or somebody they know, the moment something does, that's when most people wake up. And that's what I've seen now. But it's very sad for people who have taken six booster shots. An autopsy study recently came out and found basically their hearts look like Swiss cheese under the microscope. Not with holes, but with multiple micro scars. And so these shots literally cause little microscopic scars throughout the heart that lead to sudden death.

Jimmy Dore

Do you think we'll ever have a person who, you know, like when Walter Cronkite turned on the Vietnam War, that's what they said. It was the end of the. Do you think that there'll be someone who's respected in society that comes out and says something about this, that people will finally wake up?

Nicholas Holscher

It's. I think it's going to have to come from the propaganda mainstream media outlets that these individuals religiously watch. It's going to have to come from CNN and all these other outlets, unfortunately. And so. But they're captured by Big Pharma, they're captured by Pfizer. And so, you know, it's going to be very difficult to get that to happen, but it needs to happen for the sake of public safety. You know, we had an ongoing long term mass casualty event. Right. We have to put an end to it somehow.

Jimmy Dore

Nicholas holscher at the McCullough Foundation, I appreciate you taking time to help explain all this to everybody. Everybody should follow you on X on Twitter at Nick Holscher. And thanks again for taking time for us, pal.

Nicholas Holscher

Thank you.

Jimmy Dore

Okay, let's take a break and we'll be right back. No. Oh, let's go to Rumble. We'll see you over at Rumble.

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Jimmy Dore

They call it Rapeseed. Also, it has two names.

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Jimmy Dore

It is called Rapeseed. Aptly named Rapeseed.

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Jimmy Dore

Steve.

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Jimmy Dore

And you know, there's different kinds of cotton. Yes, right. So there's. There's the short cotton and the long cotton. And that's why you can get a cotton T shirt that cost 10 bucks and one that costs 300 bucks. And it's because most of the cotton is this short cotton. And the long stuff is softer, silkier, smoother, lasts longer. And that's why it costs so much more. And it's. There's only a little bit of it in the world. There's not much anyway. All right, come to me. All right, we're ready. Fantastic. We got a special guest with us. Christian Parenti is here with us. He's an investigative journalist, academic, and the author of several books including Lockdown America, Police and Prisons in the Age of Crisis and Radical Economic Lessons from a Misunderstood Founder. He's reported from various locations such as Afghanistan, Iraq, Venezuela and China. His work has been featured in an HBO documentary titled Fixer the Taking of Ajo. Oh, I can't say that name. Nice. Currently, he is a professor of economics at John Jay College of Criminal justice in New York City. Welcome back to the show, Christian Parenti. Hello, Christian. How are you?

Christian Parenti

Hello, Jimmy. I'm well, thank you.

Jimmy Dore

Great to be here.

Christian Parenti

Good to see you.

Jimmy Dore

So you wrote. So I don't know anything about Cuba except what I saw in the Godfather, but you do. You wrote this article most recently in Covert Action magazine and Cuba's. It's entitled Cuba's Real Crime in the Minds of American Elites. And let me just read a little bit of it. In the eyes of American policy elites, Cuba's most unforgivable crime is not even its socialism, which is now badly frayed, but rather its sovereignty. Cuba's persistent independence and oppositional survival as a state in an American imperial is an American imperial humiliation. So are you saying. So tell me, what are you saying there?

Christian Parenti

Well, Cuba has, you know, Cuba occupies a special place in the imagination of the Blob, the US Foreign policy establishment. And it's hard to say, as the left and supporters of Cuba used to say, that, you know, America hated Cuba because Cuba was socialist. And Cuba showed that socialist experiments in which there was, you know, nationalization of, that is to say, confiscation of privately held American companies and turning them into public property owned by the state of Cuba and, or by the workers of the establishments, that this was the crime that, that so offended the elites. But the fact of the matter is that Cuba has for a long time now, since the collapse of the Soviet Union, been moving towards a mixed economy, moving towards capitalism. It has been liberalizing its rules, backing off of centrally planned economics, allowing private ownership of the means of production, that is say private ownership of businesses. And this has been going on since the early 90s. And at this point, as I lay out in the article, you know, it's like 55% of all retail is private. Cuba has a workforce of 4 million. 1.6 million of those workers are employed by private employers. There have been from since the beginning of this liberalization of the Cuban economy In the early 90s, the United States has prevented American businesses from being involved. But there have been Canadian, Mexican, Spanish, Italian companies in there since the early 90s. Recent pressure by the Trump administration is forcing many of these firms out. For example, Sherritt is a big Canadian nickel and cobalt miner in Cuba and they have been forced out by the expansion of sanctions under the Trump administration. So this new threat against Cuba by the Trump administration, what I'm trying to do in this article is think about what is this about? Why are they so hell bent on crushing Cuba even though Cuba is open for business? Its original crime, that is socialism, is really very, very badly framed.

Rabbi Yosef Mizrachi

Right?

Christian Parenti

And they, I mean, they have since the, right after the publication of this article, they passed another law in Cuba that liberalized even further. And now, really, in many ways, the only barrier for that American capitalists face in investing in Cuba is the American government. So why, why is the Trump administration after Cuba? And I think it has to do with the fact that Cuba is still sovereign and that the Cuban revolution has humiliated the Central Intelligence Agency and the US Defense establishment and that this is too much and that it's still, even as it has largely abandoned socialism, it still stands as some sort of symbol to dissidents of all varieties throughout the world, across the global south, who see Cuba surviving tattered and beat up as it is surviving 90 miles off the coast of Florida. And they think, wait a minute, hey, if the Cubans, whether you like them or dislike them is almost irrelevant. If the Cubans can defy the United States and survive for, you know, now almost 70 years, maybe we can. Maybe we can go up against the powers that be here in this country, even if they're also backed by the United States and the European Union, whatever. I mean, it's not impossible for little countries to do daring things and to defy the empire, to defy powerful states, most importantly among those, the United States. And so I think that is what's going on here, is that it doesn't matter how capitalist Cuba becomes. Cuba needs to be humiliated and destroyed for having dared to defy and defeat the CIA on numerous occasions. And, and we could get into what those defeats are. I mean, they're pretty. Some of them are pretty spectacular. It's a spectacular history, really.

Jimmy Dore

So you. So, I mean, so here's a little bit more from your article. You say revolutionary Cuba's mere existence threatens the cynicism, complacency, and defeatism that does so much to maintain imperial order at a global scale. As long as little Cuba, only 90 miles from Florida, can govern itself, there will be dissidents of all political varieties and countries across the global south who will think if Cuba can do it, maybe we can change leadership and transform conditions in our own. So that's what it's really about, that the example that Cuba sets. In fact, you say that the new U.S. economic war in Cuba is not about actually expanding the capacity of private firms to do business in Cuba. It's about imperial hegemony. So that's what Cuba really threatens. As you were just saying, the example of Cuba is they're afraid that it will infect all the other the global south. And then it's much harder for US Imperialism and hegemony. Right. That's really what, it's not about Cuba itself or what's happening there. It's about the example to the rest of the world.

Christian Parenti

World about the example of the rest of the world. It's also about Cuba itself and the fact that Cuba defeated the CIA. You know, they beat the CIA at the Bay of Pigs, they beat the CIA in Africa a couple times. I mean, they have, they have gone up against the US in its proxy wars and prevailed. And I think that probably really irks people in the CIA because few states have gotten away with that. And you know, Cuba has defy. I mean, the number of assassination attempts that the CIA admits to is eight against Fidel Castro. Cuban intelligence or characters from Cuban intelligence put it in like 640 or something, who knows what it is, but we know it's at least eight. And they were defeated. And they were defeated because the recent failures of Cuban intelligence in Venezuela with the kidnapping of Nicolas Maduro aside, Cuban intelligence has a pretty storied history. Love them or hate them, just technically speaking, it's considered a pretty good intelligence agency. And one of the, the methods that they have used, it seems, is infiltration of the very scene that, that the CIA is so close with the Cuban right wing Cuban exiles. And I mean, there's considerable evidence that the American Mafiosa, this is not in the article, but Santos Trafficante, who was a, you know, he owned a lot of, he was an Italian American Mafiosa out of Tampa, Florida and he owned a lot of gambling and other kind of criminal rackets in Havana prior to the revolution in 1959. And it seems like he may have in fact been a double agent and had, because he was very, you know, tight with the CIA and with the Cuban exile community. And there's just, you know, people can look it up, but there's all sorts of circumstantial evidence. I actually don't know, I'm agnostic on this, but this is just an example of sort of like, you know, the kind of stuff that the Cuban intelligence would get up to infiltrating potentially at the highest levels of this. And then also like, you know, these, this, the quote unquote Gusanos, the, the exiles who fled to Miami. You know, there's always questions about like, you know, possibly a lot of these, not a lot, but I mean, some of these extremely right wing Cuban activists are double agents as well. Because it's amazing what, prior to that one operation Venezuela, it's amazing what the Cuban intelligence managed to do. And so I think that's a key part of it. And I think the tell in all of that, like the psychological tick coming from the CIA is that they're making a big deal of the four pilots who were killed back in 1992, working with an NGO out of Florida called Brothers to the Rescue. And what happened with that was there was a Cuban pilot, you know, in government of Cuba, pilot who defected in 1992, but Soviet Union has just collapsed. Everyone's like looking at their watch, Cuba's next to go. This guy defects with a MiG jet to Miami and he ingratiates himself to the right wing there, ends up marrying the, the daughter of one of these Bay of Pig veterans and infiltrating this group, Brothers to the Rescue, which was nominally a kind of humanitarian propaganda operation that sought to propagandize in Cuba, drop leaflets and in Cuba criticizing the revolution. And the Cuban government maintained that this was a CIA affiliated terrorist organization. It was just one of the, the many operations, you know, that they've been suffering from for years. The Operation Mongoose, all these assassination attempts, biological warfare against their crops, on and on and on. I mean, it's all very well documented. And so that's the light in which the Cuban government saw the Brothers to the Rescue. And so this guy Juan Roca, who was the pilot who defected and becomes this right winger and kind of a celebrity in the scene, disappears. And then two days later, two planes from Brothers to the Rescue in 1992 are headed towards Cuba and they're shot down by the Cuban government. Cuban government's like, turn around, get out of here. They refused and they get shot down. And then at that time, people think, what happened to Juan Rocco? Was he kidnapped or murdered by Cuban intelligence? And then he shows up a couple days later or a couple weeks later in Havana and he holds a press conference and he says, I would never betray my country. And lo and behold, it turns out this guy was a spy the whole time. The whole thing was and Cuban intelligence operation, they, you know, he steals this MiG, you know, shows up in Cuba, I mean, shows up in Miami, ingratiates himself and is passing intelligence the entire time to, to Cuba. And what I thought was interesting about that episode in history was in part his language at that press conference. He doesn't say, I would never betray the revolution. He says, I would never betray my country, right? And that gets at this question of sovereignty and patriotism and this, you know, like that side of the anti imperialism of Cuba that's not all about socialism. It's also about Just regardless of what the political economy is, who owns the means of production, a lot of Cubans don't want to be dominated by the United States. And the US on the other hand, is like, wait a minute, this set of institutions, this political party, this scene needs to pay for defeating us at the Bay of Pigs, defeating us several times in Africa. And so when John Ratcliffe went to Cuba about a month ago, head of the CIA goes to Cuba about a month ago. You know, they, they want to. And then they do indict Raul Castro, who is now 95. They indict him for the killing of these four pilots from boats to the rescue from 1992. I don't know. To me it just seems like a tell sort. You guys are still hung up about that, you know.

Jimmy Dore

Yeah.

Christian Parenti

And here's this. And they're hung up about it because it's, it's like the most prominent example of Cuban intelligence. And this little island getting right up into the grill of the CIA and getting away with it, you know, getting intelligence, defying them, killing some other operatives, getting away with it. And they're like, you know, the head of the CIA, they don't send Marco Rubio, they don't send the Secretary of State, they send the head of the CIA, John Radcliffe, to meet with the Cubans. And guys like, we want 95 year old Raul Castro extradited so we can punish him for killing these agents of ours, essentially.

Jimmy Dore

You know, so, you know. Yeah, you, in the article, you reference Radcliffe's demands regarding Raul Castro and economic changes. Can you elaborate on the timing and context of those statements and how they connect to the broader Trump era, current

Nicholas Holscher

policy

Christian Parenti

in terms of Radcliffe going to Cuba?

Jimmy Dore

Yeah.

Nicholas Holscher

And.

Christian Parenti

Well, he goes there in, I think it's, you know, late May and comes after the Trump administration has imposed this oil embargo. So they are, you know, they're not allowing oil to be imported to Cuba anymore. And Cuba needs about 100,000 barrels of oil a day and it produces 40,000. And so it's 60,000 barrels short. And as a result, there's like, you know, constant blackouts. Even in Havana, there's hardly any fuel for automobiles. The health care system is falling apart. I mean, the economy is in, you know, it's in a disastrous state.

Nicholas Holscher

Right.

Christian Parenti

So the Trump administration has turned up the, the volume on economic warfare has gotten very, very aggressive in this calendar year towards Cuba. And it's having, it's having, you know, a pretty serious effect. It's, it's part of what's driving the Cubans to make yet more concessions. And they, they made this, you know, they didn't say, oh, we're doing this because John Ratcliffe asked or demanded. I mean, they're doing it in part because they realize that they have to get investment and, and they have to get out from under this blockade and the sanctions. So that's, that's, that's the context. I mean, there has been, for decades, there has been, you know, and there's been economic sanctions against Cuba. And it's illegal for Americans to spend money in Cuba. Like, you're not, it's not illegal for you to travel to Cuba, but you simply cannot spend money there because that's considered trading with the enemy. And they, you know, they've been prosecuting people for years about this. I, I have a friend who was, was prosecuted back in the 90s, and he went like, you know, he's a lefty, but he's not, like, politically active. He teaches school on Long island and he, like, went down to Cuba to, you know, as part of a trip to Latin America just to see Cuba, and he ended up getting prosecuted and having to pay $10,000, which, you know, back in those days was kind of more like $30,000 or something. So, I mean, the sanctions against Cuba have been in place and they have, and they are actually, you know, activated. It's not just the occasional high profile case against some activist group. I mean, like, they come down on tourists to go to Cuba. But what Trump has done is this actual embargo where they're like, you know, threatening ships that are seeking to bring oil to Cuba, most crucially Venezuelan ships. And then they also have pressured Mexico.

Nicholas Holscher

Right.

Christian Parenti

So the Latin American left has not. They've basically given up on supporting Cuba. So Mexico, under Claudia Sheinbaum has agreed not to export oil to Cuba. Venezuela, after the Maduro kidnapping and this bizarre, not really regime change, transfer of power to Del C. Rodriguez has also agreed to stop sending oil to Cuba. There was one Russian oil tanker that defied the blockade and Trump, the US Administration didn't do anything about it. But there hasn't been other ones since then.

Jimmy Dore

So, so what do you. So it's, this isn't about genuine liberal liberalization of their country or their economy. This, I mean, as you pointed out, they're, they're kicking capitalists out of the United States, is using sanction power to get. So, so what would like, is there a path to normalize relationship with Washington, D.C. for Cuba?

Christian Parenti

I mean, I don't know. I mean, maybe it's like, I mean, I mean, they could just do what they've done with, you know, there's the example of Vietnam, the example of China. I mean, it. These two countries have also liberalized considerably, but their quote, unquote communist parties have, have not given up one party rule. And they're basically kind of running mixed economies, developmentalist mixed economies, you know, with fairly authoritarian characteristics at times. But it's like the US has been totally fine with normalizing relationships with both of those old adversaries.

Jimmy Dore

Right.

Christian Parenti

There's something special about Cuba. So I mean, I don't know what will happen, but the path towards normalization would simply to be like, yeah, wow, you guys have really moved quite far away from, thank, from, from capital, from socialism. We want in on this. We're removing, we, the US Are removing the blockade and the sanctions and we're going to take advantage of these laws that you've passed that allow our corporations and citizens to invest in Cuba. You know, and for private enterprises to grow. You know, like one law that they changed recently was there was a cap on 100 employees. Private companies could, couldn't have more than 100 employees. I think after that point they had to basically go into business with the state. There had to be some partial state ownership. But so now it's like the lid is off on that. You can get, you know, if you invest in Cuba as a private entrepreneur, you can probably grow your business quite a bit.

Jimmy Dore

So do you politically.

Christian Parenti

What would, what would make the Trump administration do that? I don't know, maybe, maybe realizing that they can't win in Cuba, that they could invade and they could occupy, but that it's not all about socialism. It's also about this nationalism. It's about sovereignty. It's about this like, you know, plucky little chip on the shoulder, you know, American hemisphere thing. This thing that like the countries of the Americas have of having thrown off English or Spanish, you know, colonialism and wanting to, to be independent republics. And that seems to be alive and well in Cuba. And you know, it's the Cuban people and the Cuban government do not seem prepared to go back to the days when they were a de facto colony when the US had, you know, direct control over much of their crucial economic decisions and all that.

Jimmy Dore

So, and so, you know, Trump was talking, you know, there was talk about invading Cuba, but as you point out, that would be. There would be unbelievable guerrilla resistance to that. No, I mean, so that would.

Christian Parenti

I think so.

Jimmy Dore

So, yeah, you so I know they're dumb enough to do Iran. So do you think they're dumb enough to do Cuba?

Christian Parenti

The dangerous thing is, I think that they might be. And of course that Trump has this pattern of escaping crisis A by starting crisis B, and then C and then D and then E, you know, just like. Yeah, so things are not going well with the whole Iran, you know, negotiations towards peace. So, you know, if, if that, if the end of that war, if it ever comes, is really humiliating, or if the lack of the end of that war, if that finally turns into, you know, is seen as triggering an economic crash and Trump is totally humiliated by it, then he could do something pretty insane like invade Cuba and worry about the aftermath later. So, and if that happens, I think that would be, that would be a total disaster.

Jimmy Dore

But the problem, you know, the, for me, like, the problem, if there was normalization, quote unquote, with Cuba, wouldn't that just bring in all the horrible, awful things US Western corporations do, like glyphosate and, you know, I mean, it's this. It just would wreck the country.

Christian Parenti

No, I mean, it could, but, you know, if there was, if there was normalization with, you know, with Cuban nationalist politics in control, maybe that could be prevented. You know, I mean, if, if Cuban sovereignty could be some sort of rational filter shaping foreign investment as it has, I mean, it has played that role vis a vis Canadian, Italian, Mexican, Spanish investment. You know, they have a very big renewable energy sector. They've got a very big organic farming scene. And that, that all came out of necessity beginning in the 1990s. They spent about 22 years following a really not very functional Soviet style model of centralized planning that allowed for zero mixed economy, like zero role for small business. And all of that was backed off of in 1991, 92 when Soviet Union collapsed. And so they, out of necessity, they started, you know, encouraging farming. And a lot of it out of necessity was organic because you've got to pay hard currency for all these chemical inputs. And there actually there were people from UC Santa Cruz went down there and, and, you know, trained with Cubans and trained Cubans and organic farming and all that. So, I mean, you could imagine a version of a more, a steadily more capitalist Cuban economy. It's a mixed economy currently in which it's not trenched in glyphosate, but that requires a government that maintains its sovereignty and has autonomy from the United States. And that seems to be the sticking point here. The US Is not, or this administration is not okay with Cuban sovereignty. It doesn't matter how much it gives up on the old socialist program. They don't, they don't like Cuban patriotism, Cuban sovereignty, period.

Jimmy Dore

And that's the real crime according to your article. Great article by the way. Everybody. Check it out at Covert Action magazine. I put a link in the description. Christian, always great to see you. Great to talk with you, brother.

Christian Parenti

Thank you very much for having me on. It's great to see you too, man. Keep up the great work.

Jimmy Dore

Okay. I'll be out in New York for that 911 thing that's happening this year. Are you aware of that?

Christian Parenti

I'm not. What is it is a conference?

Jimmy Dore

Yeah, it's just going to be a three day thing. There's going to be all kind of panels and I'll be putting out a presentation about 9 11. I have no idea what I'm going to say that it hasn't already said,

Christian Parenti

but I will will, I will, I will come to that. Is it going to be on 9 11?

Jimmy Dore

Mine is actually going to be on 9 12. Okay, so I'll try to come to that.

Nicholas Holscher

Yeah.

Christian Parenti

And great coverage on the MK Ultra hearings.

Jimmy Dore

Oh, thank you.

Christian Parenti

It's very interesting and important stuff.

Jimmy Dore

I'm suspect as to why they're doing those now and I think it might be to make people think that Tyler Robinson actually did it and that Crooks actually was the lone nut gunman. It just seems too. It's just. I mean it is interesting everything about MK Ultra and what's coming out, but it's like, why would they be doing that now? And I think it's because too many people doubt the official narrative about the Butler assassination attempt and the Charlie Kirk assassination and they want people to get back into it. What do you think?

Christian Parenti

It's definitely a response to a growing awareness of all this that comes out of COVID Right. I mean, you know, people are just like, wait a minute. The intelligence agencies lie. They're very active. They have been for a long time. And I think a lot of people got into the history of MK Ultra. And so, you know, maybe it's just, maybe it's honest on, on Luna Rep. Luna's part. Or maybe, maybe she just wants headlines or maybe it is part of something more nefarious. I don't know. I mean, I think it remains to be seen if there's going to be more hearings. Right? That would be the test.

Jimmy Dore

Yeah.

Christian Parenti

It's like, are we going to get into this? I mean a friend of mine who is an academic in Virginia made this point that, you know, there are like, there's Lots and lots of stuff that to still be declassified around MK Ultra. For example, there were. I think it is 139. Maybe it's 149, like, institutions, universities, prisons, these kinds of things that got these MK Ultra grants all over the country into Canada. The names of the scholars who got those grants remain redacted. This is. This is information that was not destroyed by Dulles when they, you know, liquidated any evidence of MK Ultra. Let's get the names of this so that historians, like my friend who I'm mentioning here, can get to work on unpacking more of the details of how this thing went down. So that's the kind of stuff that. That needs to be happening. And, you know, I hope that people push these representatives to keep going. Like that was not enough. One day with three people, right? That's just the opening act. If that's where it stops, then, yeah, it's very suspicious.

Guest Caller/Commentator

Yeah.

Jimmy Dore

Okay. Christian Parentheses, Great to talk with you, pal. Hope to see you soon.

Christian Parenti

All right, see you in New York.

Jimmy Dore

All right, let's take a break. We'll be right back.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

Boom. We are back, ladies and gentlemen. We're just. Jimmy's taking a temporary break. You know what? We did the shows this week, Monday, Wednesday and Friday without Malcolm and Misha. Oh, my God. And then Jimmy turned to me today and he goes, hey, you know what? I want to do Anya and Kurt together and Christian Parente and Nick Hulcher with zoom links. I'm like, zoom links? I had to, like, meditate and make sure that I could do the zoom links. And thank God we have my tech team, Chris and Andrew, that support me emotionally through these technical challenges. Sending a link. So I just want to. Want you to know I know I make everything look easy. You have no idea what crazy happening in here. A lot of crazy. A lot of crazy. All right, ladies and gentlemen, let's get back to some of your super chats and rumble rants. Ladies and gentlemen, I know that I'm going to try a new recipe tomorrow, and I saw this online. It's watermelon with feta cheese and crumbled pistachios and some other herbs on it. Have you done it? What's going to be your special dish tomorrow? Huh? Let me know in the chats. Let me know. Joe Sheehan says, get your boost, your cancer boosters for that recommendation. What a perfect way to celebrate Independence Day. Go get a booster, Jimmy.

Kurt Mexican

Get boosted. That's what we say down at the booster center. I talk to celebs I go first before you even look at this. Get boosted.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

Yeah. You okay over there? What happened? Something go wrong? All right. You're looking good today. You know, it's interesting how that hair growth ointment you've been using has really kicked in.

Kurt Mexican

Oh, you should see downstairs too. Wow.

Rabbi Yosef Mizrachi

Wow.

Kurt Mexican

Kabala. That's a lot.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

Jimmy, Steph, please get Sayer G on the show. Epstein files Illuminati, a 20 year architecture behind the Pandemics as a biz model. Gates at the center when.

Kurt Mexican

Oh yeah. They were talking about that in the files, by the way.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

Right?

Kurt Mexican

Yeah, it's all in there. I mean, people just didn't look. People tell you there's not anything in there. Just didn't look. And they know you're not going to look. I mean, not whoever wrote that.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

And that's from Oceans of Aloha. Thank you for that. And I shared the link with the team. Much appreciated.

Kurt Mexican

This is going to get weirder and weirder.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

Yeah. Hey, do the opposites of what? Do the opposite of what expert governments and advertisers tell you. Oh, and AI is demonic and full of bs, so don't use it.

Jimmy Dore

It.

Kurt Mexican

I use it all the time, but I. Not as my friend. I use it to find links to things I can't find links to.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

I. I know, I know.

Kurt Mexican

It's quite useful if you use it for the right thing. You can't use it as like your wife or something.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

Yeah. Don't use it as your ass question

Kurt Mexican

and then use that as the reference like you.

Anya Perampel

You.

Kurt Mexican

That's not going to work out. You have to like give it commands first. But you, I mean, you could use it.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

Yeah. And I. Yeah. I think it also is interesting how you have to be very specific and narrow. And I know sometimes when Jimmy was using it, he says, you know, and give me the resources. That gray zone from the gray zone when I really. He wants to get to the heart of the matter.

Kurt Mexican

Yeah. You have to do that. You have to use it that way or have it look up specific things because it also will lie and just not look something up.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

Yeah.

Kurt Mexican

Oh, why would you program it to do that?

Jimmy Dore

Uh huh.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

It's so compromised. I always, you know, and then there are those times where I'm sure you do it too, where you start getting an argument with the AI.

Kurt Mexican

I abuse it. And I get real mad when it starts acting up. I don't hold back the verbal abuse, that's for sure.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

Rumbling I'm not near a tv. Can someone tell me if soccer is still gay?

Kurt Mexican

I can answer that. From the Holy Sephir. I wrote about it. Yeah, it is. It's been gay the whole time.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

Let's see here. People are overworked and under jerked. Always jerked around and always dealing with clowns. Vienticus Prime. Thank you. Vienticus.

Kurt Mexican

Under jerked.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

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Jimmy Dore

Does that mean Sarah says?

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

Who told you Castro was a monster? The CIA. Oh, look at you. Bam.

Kurt Mexican

I heard he was a monster. Crushing puss,

Jimmy Dore

framing shooters and busting cooters. Dude, Clutch.

Kurt Mexican

Yeah, I heard he was.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

Clutch Cash Patel this week. I gotta listen to that. Oh, my God, Cash. Celebrating the fourth of July. So perfect. Corn pop the batter, dude. Godfather of organized crime, Arnold Rothstein. I know. Sounds very Italian.

Kurt Mexican

The mob To Erica Kirp.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

The mob has been composed since the inception of Jews the brains, and Italians the muscles.

Jimmy Dore

All right.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

Oh, back to Jim.

Jimmy Dore

Tucker Carlson had something to say about the COVID 19 vaccine. You heard it? It's pretty good. I gotta get him. I gotta get him on this show. He's talking, he's going on everybody else's freaking show. We gotta. I gotta. It's my own fault. All I have to do is text him. I'm sure he'll come.

Kurt Mexican

Recently, though, didn't you say it again?

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

You did.

Jimmy Dore

Yeah, I did.

Kurt Mexican

His appearance on his show. I know it was good because Ben Shapiro was very upset.

Jimmy Dore

He was very upset about it. He said my name about 10 times, which makes me happy.

Kurt Mexican

Yeah. He was so upset, he forgot to do the old Bill Maher. Go some guy.

Jimmy Dore

Some guy. Comedian Jimmy Doer. And that's it. And there's Tucker Carlson laughing right along with him. That's. You know, you don't have to defend a widow. A widow.

Kurt Mexican

That's great. What am I in the Freemasons? Can a widow son not get a. What he gave him. Not one point. He had. Not one point where you lied. He just said, tucker's letting him talk.

Jimmy Dore

That's it. Tucker's letting him talk. He didn't say I lied. Okay, let's do this. In a recent appearance on Jack Neal's

Christian Parenti

podcast, Tucker Carlson argues that the COVID

Jimmy Dore

vaccine rollout was probably the greatest crime ever committed.

Candace Owens

It's hard not to conclude something's going on because some of the behavior doesn't make sense. If you view it through the conventional formula of like, what government does or big companies do for the population, they serve the population. Government does it for votes. Companies do it for money. So when you see behavior that doesn't fit that template, you're like, what is this? The COVID Vax was the one that I've never gotten in my mind. I've never understood what that was about. There'd never been a coronavirus vax that had been successful. They tried. It didn't work. The last time they tried it, I knew that. And this one didn't work. And it was obvious immediately that it didn't work. And rather than kind of pull back a little bit or be defensive, well, actually, it does work. They took a Stalinist line, which was, it works. And if you don't think it works, you're evil. You deserve to die. And if you don't take it, we're going to fire you and destroy your life. I've never seen anything like that in my life. There has been nothing like that in all human history at that scale. Well, in the military, and it didn't work. And in fact, it killed a ton of people, including someone I know gave another close friend of mine a heart attack, but it killed a lot of people around the world. It caused cancer. It lowered female fertility. It was a disaster. It was probably the greatest crime ever committed, honestly. And even now, there's no conversation about it at all. It's still required. The Trump Administration still has it on the schedule. They're sending money to Pfizer for more COVID vaccine MRNA vaccines. It's like, that's so bonkers that it's hard to conclude. It's not like they don't know the numbers. I mean, excess mortality numbers alone tell you this, but it's, like, obvious that net. Net. It's poison and it killed people. And yes, it does change your DNA. Actually, like, actually, that's not a conspiracy theory. So given all of that, I think the people who did that specifically are. Which would be US Government officials and business leaders, internationally and foreign governments capable of literally anything. And by the way, that's such a huge scale. Like a mass immunization project is like. It's bigger than a war mobilization. It's like the biggest thing a government ever does. And they did it on false pretenses, knowing that it harmed people, and they did it anyway. And they still haven't admitted it and are still doing it. So just on the basis of that experience and the evidence that we all saw, I think it's possible to believe absolutely anything about these people. Would you do that? If you were behind the COVID rollout, the COVID vaccine rollout, and you found out it was killing people, would you be like, no, no. Kids have to have it anyway. Even though the death rate from COVID for people under 30 without comorbidities was zero, but the death rate from the COVID vaccine was much higher than zero. You would never do that. I mean, ever. It didn't matter how much they paid you. You would never do that. What kind of person would do that? Well, you know, fill in the blank yourself.

Jimmy Dore

So why aren't there more people saying some stuff like that out there? Why is it only people like us and Tucker Carlson? Why aren't there?

Kurt Mexican

You would have to. I mean, just think of the shattering of your worldview to understand that, no, it's not just human competence. They're actively trying to kill you and traffic kids. A lot of people don't want to accept that. And they become Dottie Sandusky, who still thinks Jerry Sandusky is innocent to this day.

Jimmy Dore

Yeah, it's. Well, it's as I've described before. It's because people's belief that Ivermectin is horse pace and you're a. And you're a moron if you take it for a human. People's belief that masks work, people's belief that shutting down schools was a smart thing to do, people's belief that Covid was deadly, even though it had a 0.04% death rate. Even Bill Gates admitted it was just like the flu, but a little different. Affected most of the elderly had a low death rate. People's belief that the vaccines, that vaccines are the greatest invention in human history, which is what Jon Stewart said.

Kurt Mexican

So people where I didn't get polio, I liked. I mean, good reviews on that one, not the COVID one so much.

Jimmy Dore

People's belief in these, in these Covid narratives are what they call load bearing beliefs.

Kurt Mexican

Well, I call it that.

Jimmy Dore

And if you take away those beliefs, their entire self image will collapse on them. And so they have to keep propping him up, which is when you run into people who say things like this. Well, they never said it would stop transmission. And then I show them a video of everybody from Dr. Fauci to Joe Biden to Rachel Maddow, Tony Khan, everybody in between saying that it definitely will stop transmission. And then they go, yeah, but that's before they knew. No, no, you said no one ever said that. And now you know why you said that no one ever said that. Because that's what you're being told now on your corporate pharma funded media, that no one ever said that. So you just repeat it. Doesn't it bother you that you just repeated a falsehood and then I debunked it and you just moved the goalposts?

Kurt Mexican

Honestly, Jimmy, it bothers me more that you kept telling me the thing I didn't want to hear.

Jimmy Dore

Yes, I'm being honest.

Kurt Mexican

If I can forgive it.

Jimmy Dore

I had a conversation with a friend of mine. Doesn't talk to me anymore, by the way. We were tight for years. One of my best friends. And I was on the phone with them when I figured out all this stuff about COVID And I told him all that stuff. It's got a low death rate. The MRNA vaccine doesn't stop transmission and contraction. You've been lied to. Masks don't work. It's all a lie. It's the whole thing. And I Talked for like 15 minutes straight. I was laying out the case for him about the side effects, the excess deaths, excess mortality, the nerve damage, the myocarditis, the lower 15 minutes, nonstop. I laid it out to him and his response to me was, okay, that's a lot to take in. And that was it. That's what he said. And I haven't talked to him since. Really? We haven't had a real conversation since. He's a comedian. Doesn't.

Kurt Mexican

What else did David Feldman say I'm

Sean Ryan

kidding

Jimmy Dore

and he's a comedian.

Kurt Mexican

And hey, my good friend Dan Soder is a total moron about COVID I'm just randomly picking his name out of people that I'm friends with that I like that just the expert said it. I didn't bother to look. But I know you stupid.

Jimmy Dore

What is.

Kurt Mexican

Even though you read.

Jimmy Dore

I saw.

Kurt Mexican

I don't read because of me. Smart.

Jimmy Dore

I saw somebody in the comments under one of our videos we did about COVID and they said what a silly thing to base a friendship on someone's. Someone's belief in vaccines. What a silly thing.

Kurt Mexican

Well, I have everything else spiritual taken away from me in today's fast paced modern world, Jimmy. So I gotta. That is all my God hole.

Jimmy Dore

That's right.

Kurt Mexican

Fill it with government. The way New world order.

Jimmy Dore

Just like. Just like Carl Jung said, your psyche has a need for religion. And if you don't have a real experience with the divine, you're going to project it outward. And the people who call themselves liberals who used to be for my body, my choice and critical of Big Pharma completely flip the script and became mouthpieces for Big Pharma, the most criminal organization as a corporation, maybe ever.

Kurt Mexican

Well you don't understand those.

Jimmy Dore

And they turned them into. They turned science into religion. Science works on questioning. It always has, always will. There's no such thing as settled science. But they turned it into it. And if you question science you were a heretic. And they turned people like Dr. Fauci into. Into deities.

Kurt Mexican

That's not what Professor Dave said. He's big mad at me too.

Jimmy Dore

Professor Dave who?

Kurt Mexican

Science. The famous science communicator that get your booster. And also bizarrely has bible history videos that are very much like what somebody Zionist rabbi would say. Very odd that he's all. All the science that isn't science. But just do what I say.

Jimmy Dore

Who is back up. Who are you talking about?

Kurt Mexican

You've seen him. The guy that I was trashing on Danny Jones. I know you've seen. He's got a face like a toucan and he's one of the many science communicators that will debunk every. Oh, this is crazy what he said about vaccine. No facts, just a bunch of fucking shaming that you bothered to look into it becoming a goddamn Catholic church.

Jimmy Dore

And people don't realize that just like corporate media is completely corrupted and bought off by Big Pharma the same thing happens with medical studies that they. You can rig a study to have an outcome you want. Which is what they did with Ivermectin during COVID even though there were decades of, of studies that showed it did fight the COVID virus in vitro and that. And it's just crazy that people don't realize that medicine, just like anything else, is 100% corrupted by big pharma. That when it was taken over by Rockefeller in the early 1900s. People don't know about that. Do you know about that, Kurt? You know about this kind of stuff?

Kurt Mexican

Oh, I know all about it. Just like communism and Nazism was funded by Rockefellers and all the gang. All the things that you don't like. Oh, style. It's like Stalinist, like Tucker said. Well, guess who else gave us, helped us with that. Guess who else gave the world these gain of function experiments, if you will. Because they look at you as a different species. Billionaires look at you like you're a different species that it's okay to experiment on. And can, can you blame them? Because nobody does jack shit, right? Nobody's gonna go, I'm not saying never kill anybody. You don't have to. You could just not cooperate with this shit and it falls apart. But everybody's gonna keep their head down and Dave Rubin it out for their career like a real genius.

Jimmy Dore

And you know people, you talk to people. Now we're five years, six years out after this rollout of this novel vaccine, which again, does not meet the definition of what a vaccine was until they change the definition of what a vaccine is. Now people walk around going, well, vaccines aren't supposed to stop you from getting it. It's just supposed to lessen the symptoms. Really? You mean like polio? So if you got polio after you got the polio vaccine, you'd say it still worked?

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

Really?

Kurt Mexican

I would thank them for their service, Jimmy. As the great John Jacob Fugal Scheimer Schmidt said, arguably Trump's Operation War Speed was the one good thing he did. Wow, John, you should write a book. That is such a smart take. I like a whole book of your take on that. And also how Christianity supports transgenderism. Please write a book with your fucking. Really wise words. And get boosted.

Jimmy Dore

Get boosted. And if you ask people, when did you stop taking the. Your boosters? And they'll go, and then they'll tell you. And then you go, why, why don't, why don't you steal this? They'll stir. Big Pharma is still telling you to take them. You go to cvs, they're still going to give it to you for free.

Kurt Mexican

Science says to do it, the science

Jimmy Dore

says to do it. Why wouldn't they? And they'll say things like this. Well, I took it when it was an emergency, when we were trying to stop a pandemic, but there's no longer a pandemic.

Kurt Mexican

So how would it stop the pandemic though? If never going to get an answer to that question of how me getting the shots and you not getting the shots. How I'm in any danger since I got my shots.

Jimmy Dore

Right.

Kurt Mexican

We will never get the answer to

Jimmy Dore

that because there is no answer to that.

Kurt Mexican

How do you think mind control. How does anybody think mind control is not real when you just watch this shit happen?

Jimmy Dore

It's just unbelievable. You're right.

Kurt Mexican

How do you. Main point.

Jimmy Dore

You see how easy. You see how easy it is to get the people who call themselves skeptics, people who I worked with at the show for years, call themselves skeptics of the establishment who didn't. Who don't believe we landed on the moon and still think Elvis is alive. Bought the hook, line and sinker everything they said about COVID with no skepticism still to this day.

Kurt Mexican

Yeah, well, as a secular materialist, I have to make scientism my. My religion. And those are my priests.

Jimmy Dore

Yes.

Kurt Mexican

I have to have no lateral thought of any kind because that would be schizo. And I have to, just as I said, just blindly follow. That's. That's why you're a problem. Because if you weren't making noise, we could just get back to our lives that were going so great before the pandemic. And now they're even better. But you keep complaining. Dad sleeping. You know he's drunk and he gets cranky.

Anya Perampel

Shh.

Jimmy Dore

So you talk to these people who bought the COVID narrative. They don't even know what the term excess death is. They've never heard it. Not only do they not look into it, they don't even know what it is. They don't even think it's a thing. And yet, and even more so, Kurt, they don't want to know. Again, we go back to. Because those are load bearing beliefs. And if they found out that everything they believed about COVID was a lie, then who are they as a person? Then they're. Then they're actually the dumb idiot moron. And the people who questioned Covid were the smart ones. And so then who are. They're the thing that they hated for five years.

Kurt Mexican

That's worse than a child molester. Literally, in the world of Hollywood, it's better to be a child Molester, literally, than write about COVID They'll defend any kind of victimization of children to the ends of time. They'll make excuses for that, you know, but not wearing a mask. My friend Charlie from South by, who's a smart guy, still thinks masks worked. Didn't bother looking into it. Thinks I'm making it up. I'm like, look, I'll be happy to send you the three years of coverage. Are you even going to look at it? I bet you won't.

Jimmy Dore

The virus is smaller than the holes in the mask. It's like trying to stop sand with a chain link fence. It's like wearing a lambskin condom doctors don't wear. You've seen people. People say, well, the next time you go to the dentist, have them spit in your mouth. That's not what. That's exactly what a mask is for. To stop spit. It's not there to stop a fucking virus. I had my old roommate tell me, jimmy, when you go, you'd call, go to the hospital, tell all the doctors stop wearing masks. They don't wear masks to stop a virus. They're wearing a mask to stop literal spittle from coming out of their mouth when they're operating on you. Yeah, that's what it's there for.

Kurt Mexican

I still like that Ignatius Semmelweis, the guy that invented washing your hands before you put your filthy. Remember that People's bodies. He died in an insane asylum because they demonized. How much the guy was hounded who said, wash your goddamn hands. Because he weighed against insurance.

Jimmy Dore

That's right. With science, by the way, Settled science.

Kurt Mexican

It's just authority. And the only reason we have these terms, again, pseudoscience, was that just means fake science. Why does it have that term? That's marketing from the Carnegie Foundation. That's what that is. That's why we have that term. And the first step of mind control is controlling your language. I'm gonna tell you what words to say. I'm gonna give you a limit of acceptable discourse called the Overton window. And then you've already got a veal cage around your brain to start with. And that's how I control people. That's called magic. That's what we learned in Kabbalah. And it works.

Jimmy Dore

So if you use the WHO and the CDC data, you will find out that even they say there's been 7 million confirmed excess deaths.

Kurt Mexican

Probably because they're fast.

Jimmy Dore

But if you also. They'll also tell you none of those deaths are from the vaccine.

Kurt Mexican

Well, I would.

Jimmy Dore

So it's just a mystery. Like all of a sudden we have 7 million excess deaths since the rollout of a novel MRNA vaccine which never worked. All the times they've tried, it never worked.

Kurt Mexican

It's my Israel, that vaccine. You better criticize it because I will take that as a form of genocide, but not the genocide that it actually did.

Jimmy Dore

OK, hey, and I'll see you August 30th for our next live panel celebrity panel show. August 30th. It's a Sunday, 7:00pm we're going to be in Burbank, California. Go to Jimmy Dore.com for a link for tickets over to Steph.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

Okay. Vienticus Prime Daddy, what do the colors of the Israeli flag represent? White phosphorus and tears. Sun, White phosphorus and tears. Vienticus Grasshopper 21 McGill University, Montreal, Canada reported on the participation in 2012. Maybe earlier and thank you for the link. What would what you could say about 9 11, Jimmy, is that if you understand that your body temperature is 98 and comfortable temperature is 70, you understand the buildings didn't pancake the anticus.

Jimmy Dore

I don't follow that.

Kurt Mexican

Yeah, I still don't understand. Look, I'm pretty dumb actually for being a Kabbalah scholar as respected as I am. Yeah, I don't know a lot of stuff. It's just that you can't fool me with the same thing forever. I'm just like not that stupid.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

Does the carpet match the drapes, Kurt?

Kurt Mexican

Yes, as the carpets are the drapes is what they say in hermeticism.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

That's from Vienticus. Wanted to know. Hey Jimmy does a great Shapiro. That's from Ann. Yeah, Jimmy, that was pretty funny.

Jimmy Dore

Comedian Jimmy Yard is just sitting there and he just feels absolutely ridiculous. They talk reading a Jimmy door and Tucker just sits there. You know, you don't have to. You know you don't have. You don't have to believe a convention conspiracy theories. It's offend a widow. A widow widow. So Candace Owens. Candace Owens went on that Sean Ryan's podcast. Have you watched any of it, Kurt?

Kurt Mexican

No, I just saw it pop up this morning and I've been meaning to watch it. I saw. I'm gonna tell the greats complain that Jerry that Sean Paul Massano. Just let her talk. I believe that's what an interview is called though, if I'm not mistaken.

Jimmy Dore

Jimmy, the stuff that Sean Ryan pretends not to know, you notice it, right? And it's like there's no way you don't know this.

Kurt Mexican

But anyway, Rogan does that because he's a great interviewer. And so that is a good interview technique. It's just that I already know your previous history and you have a fake name in your CIA and a drug runner who now loves the Virgin Mary. That's cool. I'm into it. But. But like, it's not as effective when you do the, the interview thing of playing dumb. Because I know you know a lot. You know,

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

shut up.

Kurt Mexican

It's never not good.

Jimmy Dore

So let's listen to what she has to say about Netanyahu being the one who actually plotted October 7th.

Sean Ryan

October 7th proved they have a right to commit a genocide. Now, even though they plotted it October 7th and Bibi Netanyahu allowed it to happen. And all the evidence shows that. The whole point is that they. And they've been doing this forever. These false flag attacks, this is the whole history of Israel is false flag attacks. I mean, look at the USS Liberty. And they still deny what they did. Deny in the face of overwhelming evidence that it's. They believe it is their birthright to mass murder, steal, kill and rape, take from people, destroy heritage, and then reintroduce themselves in other societies with all this wealth that they stole and say that it's because they worked hard. Yeah, they worked hard murdering people and stealing and running the Gulag.

Steph

Wow.

Jimmy Dore

She does. She does not mince words. I like that. Candace Owens.

Kurt Mexican

Yeah, well, I would like to ask Candace too, but even though I love what she's saying, do you not think that you're the Vatican also? That's what they do and that's what America itself does. Don't forget all that stuff Israel says. The reason it sounds so horrible is because it's stuff we used to say when we were slaughtering all the people lived here and painting pictures of running them off the land.

Jimmy Dore

Oh, you mean the American.

Kurt Mexican

That's why Israel goes. That's a double standard. Because they're like, well, y' all tell you got your land. Well, we can't do a genocide.

Jimmy Dore

Jesse Lee, Jesse Lee Peterson said that to me when I was on his show. He goes, are you against the thing in Gaza? Are you going to give the American land back? I'm like, you got a point. I'm not going to. They're on reservations.

Kurt Mexican

Give them a land acknowledgement.

Jimmy Dore

But I just want to. I just want to show. I just want to show that this is a picture of the Reichstag fire. And that's what they used. That's what Hitler did and blamed it on. Now the Jews do that. They do false Flags all over the place. I mean, that's how they founded their country.

Kurt Mexican

How about Guy Fawkes Day? That's Great Britain. The first one. King James, who made that Bible. The gay King of England that made the King James Bible. He want Catholics were the Islamicists of the day. To them, he wanted to blame Catholics. That Gunpowder Plot that they celebrate catching to this day, that was a false flag. They rounded up idiots no smarter than the ones that the FBI pinned stuff on. The plan was stupid. Then they catch them. Then they get to persecute Catholics. This is. This goes back to the oldest days of the British Empire and before.

Jimmy Dore

I don't know about this.

Kurt Mexican

Yeah, Guy Fawkes Day is also a false flag. So it didn't start with Israel, but Israel did come from England, Right?

Jimmy Dore

It did come from, well, the Rothschilds and then the Balfour Declaration.

Kurt Mexican

There's a lot of stuff coming together

Jimmy Dore

in order to get England out of Palestine and so that the Zionists could take it over. There's a group called the Irgun. I don't know if that's. It's also known as Irgun, also known as Etzel is a right wing Zionist militant group. And who was it led by? Menachem Begin, who became Israel's Prime Minister. He carried out the attack on what? On the King David Hotel and blamed it on Arabs. They targeted the southern wing of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, which housed the British administrative headquarters, civilian secretariat and military command during the British Mandate for Palestine. The Ergan planted milk churns filled with explosives in the basement. The blast destroyed much of the wing, killing 91 people. 41 Arabs and 28 British. 17 Jews even.

Kurt Mexican

They don't care about killing Jews.

Jimmy Dore

They don't care.

Kurt Mexican

October 7th showed us.

Jimmy Dore

That's right. And they injured dozens more. It was the deadliest attack on the British during the Mandate period. The group disguised members as Arabs and hotel staff.

Kurt Mexican

Yeah, why would you ever be loyal to Israel as a Jew? I mean, they'd throw you under the bus before they'd even get to anybody else.

Jimmy Dore

So that's how they. That's how they started the country. And that was a terror. It's a terrorist organization that was started by Menachem Begin. And they use terrorism to pretend like Muslims are the inventor of terrorism. It was the Zionists.

Kurt Mexican

Hey, remember fake Pearl harbor that FDR let happen? They stitched up to army military officers like it was their fault.

Jimmy Dore

Yep. Let's watch this again.

Sean Ryan

They have a right to commit a genocide now, even though they plotted it. October 7th and, and Bibi Netanyahu allowed it to happen. And all the evidence shows that. The whole point is that.

Jimmy Dore

So just talking about that point, let me just show you this. Just we've talked, we've covered this, but it's worth covering again. So here is Netanyahu and they did this documentary that showed that of course he was the one funding Hamas. We've showed you millions of things where he said, if you want to support Zionism, you have to support Hamas.

Kurt Mexican

Well, here's Bill Bar acknowledges this fact.

Jimmy Dore

Bill Maher, even he acknowledges this.

Kurt Mexican

Yes, he goes, but I forgive him. He meant well. You remember that we played the clip. He was trying. Oh okay. Whatever he meant by it, that counts. He just killed all of them. And now you kill all these people and blame it on them. Moron.

Jimmy Dore

We control the height of the flames. For October 7th is the one who fed the beast. He did not create Hamas, but he fed it.

Christian Parenti

Netanyahu, who is against peace and who

Rabbi Yosef Mizrachi

is against having a Palestinian state dealt

Christian Parenti

with Hamas for a long time as a strategic friend.

Rabbi Yosef Mizrachi

It was important for him to keep

Christian Parenti

Gaza under the control of Hamas and keeping the west bank under the control of Fateh and preventing them from being

Rabbi Yosef Mizrachi

united in any way in order to do so. Netanyahu was all the time helping Hamas to survive.

Jimmy Dore

At the same time that he was

Kurt Mexican

under investigation, he arranged for hamas to

Jimmy Dore

receive $35 million every month from Qatar. Netanyahu can't give the money by being said, Israel will not give money to the Hamas US you cannot even transfer this money through banks because even the banks don't want to cooperate.

Rabbi Yosef Mizrachi

So you, the Israeli prime minister needs

Jimmy Dore

to beg this small and very rich country, Qatar to give money to our enemy.

Rabbi Yosef Mizrachi

The suitcases of money was given to Hamas under the request of Benjamin Netanyahu.

Jimmy Dore

So there it is. Even the New York Times has reported about the suitcases fill of cash that came from Qatar to Hamas at the behest of Benjamin Netanyahu. Now for quite some time, for quite.

Kurt Mexican

We've known this for the entire conflict by the way.

Jimmy Dore

Yes. And he. So he propped up a religious zealot organization with terrorism in it because he didn't want the level headed a non religious PLO to be governed and they would seem reasonable. So they had to prop up this Hamas so they could go. We don't have anybody to negotiate with. They're crazy frigging terrorists.

Kurt Mexican

It's what the Southern Poverty Law center did in Charlottesville with all those Nazis that were really gay guys funded by the Southern Poverty Law Center. It's what the adl, it's what all of them do. It's called a strategy of tension. We did it in Operation Gladio in Italy, where we would fund terrorists. So it's called the dialectic. I don't know. People are gonna fall for it forever. You could show all this to anybody. And I watched them blank out and not listen.

Jimmy Dore

I know.

Kurt Mexican

I don't know. You know, I don't know what I can do.

Jimmy Dore

Besides, and just to let you know that Netanyahu not only funded hamas and the October 7th attack, but he made sure it happened, which makes him complicit in it because he made sure there was a stand down order. And how do I know this? Because Israeli TV covered it. The IDF soldiers said so. Yeah, you want to see?

Kurt Mexican

Don't forget the leaked tapes from Ben gvir talking about the Hannibal directive where they killed all the hostages, which were mostly soldiers.

Jimmy Dore

So let's listen to a little bit of that. So turn this down. At 5:20am, we were sitting by the radio so as not to wait, and my deputy battalion commander, who was also seriously injured and thank God he survived, suddenly gets on the radio with a strange message. All stations. I don't know why, I don't know how. Something along those lines. No patrol on the fence. What time was this? This was 5:20am in the morning. All stations are. Hang on, let me back it up. All stations are to hold their positions. This is the actual radio transmission. So in terms of ground forces and orv, we don't have anything significant. The brigade used a directive for our forces, pending a situation assessment, until 9am so from 5.20am till 9am, don't do anything. That was the directive to the IDF soldiers. And the IDF soldiers are talking about it themselves. And here's the radio transmission. No vehicle is to promote, is to approach. I'll say it again. Until nine in the morning, pending the situation assessment. No vehicles to go down. We're in rear staging areas. A brigade level arrangement. I don't know exactly why. I don't ask too many questions. That's the directive. That's what we do. There it is. There's the stand down order. Benjamin Netanyahu and Israel were complicit in October 7th. Not only that, but as script pointed out, they killed all, all, most of the people. On October 7, Israel admits a festival

Kurt Mexican

filled with the non religious. Probably a little more left leaning. Ones that don't vote. The Netanyahu party.

Jimmy Dore

Yeah.

Kurt Mexican

The ones that don't, like Ben Devir Yeah, why not send them over there and kill them?

Jimmy Dore

And then.

Kurt Mexican

Yeah, and then when the. When the Hamas comes in and tries to capture him alive, because, you know, they were doing the Abraham Accords, which would have been the end, the death of everyone in. In Gaza, so they don't want to kill them. You have your own Israeli soldiers go kill them so you can use it. And then when they maybe hostages escape, you have your IDF kill them while they wave their shirts and speak to you in Hebrew. That's exactly what they did. I'll never forget any of these stories. I don't know how anybody else can, but I remember them now forever. That's Israel's fuck up. Because I never used to look into this.

Jimmy Dore

How can you spot an Israeli false flag, Kurt? Something horrible happened and suddenly anyone who questions it is a conspiracy nutcase.

Kurt Mexican

Yeah, well, if I weren't a qualified Kabbalah expert, I'd probably face some of that.

Jimmy Dore

Good for Candace. All right, I'll see. August 30th, our next live celebrity panel show in burbank. Go to jimmy dore.com for a link for tickets. I almost saw God. There's only like 50 tickets left. So go over there, over to Steph.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

All right, let's see here. This is from Vienticus. The instinctual need for religion comes from centuries of animal husbandry of the human animal. Vienticus.

Kurt Mexican

That would imply some sort of deity, wouldn't it?

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

I was happy because under the new definition of vaccine, I only got six genital warts to instead of seven. That's something that's on the bright side. Thank you, Vienticus.

Jimmy Dore

That's a good way.

Kurt Mexican

The HPV vaccine that just gave girls cancer. Remember? Remember that one kooky lady that from Wisconsin that was against it for religious reasons? We all laughed at her. Well, it turns out that vaccine was poison. So even if she didn't like it for cuckoo reasons, she was right to oppose it because it caused a lot of girls to die or just get the disease of HPV or cancer. Unreal. Unreal.

Nicholas Holscher

And that's.

Jimmy Dore

You can find. You can find a substack about that on a Midwestern doctor sub stack, which I think is the number one or number two medical substack in the country.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

Why?

Jimmy Dore

Because he tells you the truth and everybody knows that the medical establishment's lying to you.

Kurt Mexican

Well, I only trust Terry Bradshaw's wife for medical.

Jimmy Dore

Me too. So I saw this clip. This clip was from another clip from Candace Owens interview with Sean Ryan. And this was intriguing to Me, because

Candace Owens

he was going against Israel.

Sean Ryan

1,000%.

Christian Parenti

You go against Israel.

Jimmy Dore

Why not you?

Sean Ryan

Andrew Colette said to me a few days after the assassination, it was supposed to be you, verbatim. I think Charlie knew something. Biggest question that has not been answered

Jimmy Dore

in all of this is what is the biggest question? What is the biggest question?

Kurt Mexican

Why do people think America is real? Still?

Jimmy Dore

You want what? First of all, not dying when Israel is trying to kill you is anti Semitic.

Kurt Mexican

That's true.

Jimmy Dore

So let's listen here.

Kurt Mexican

Here.

Jimmy Dore

She's going to tell you what the bigger question is. Here's a. Here's a longer. Listen to all. First of all, it's interesting what the bigger question is, but it's also interesting how much stuff Sean Ryan pretends not to know. This is really interesting. It's just. It's. I just. I just. It's just interesting. It's interesting. It's just. Just interesting.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

Interesting.

Jimmy Dore

You're like the first to bring up apac. It's just interesting.

Christian Parenti

I mean, it's interesting.

Nicholas Holscher

I haven't thought about it.

Jimmy Dore

I haven't thought about it, but it is just interesting. It's just. It's just interesting.

Christian Parenti

It's interesting.

Jimmy Dore

You say that, which is just interesting. Which is just what's interesting about it. It's just interesting.

Candace Owens

It's just interesting.

Jimmy Dore

As you bring up apac. It's just interesting. So let's listen.

Christian Parenti

Do you think he was killed because

Candace Owens

he was going against Israel?

Jimmy Dore

But first of all, doi. That's the CIA guy asking that question.

Kurt Mexican

Everybody else from the CIA will tell you it's that. By the way. Yeah, he's not in the CIA currently.

Guest Caller/Commentator

Okay.

Sean Ryan

1,000%.

Jimmy Dore

Why you go against Israel?

Guest Caller/Commentator

Why not you?

Jimmy Dore

Well, why are you still here?

Sean Ryan

I think if. If Andrew Colbert is to be believed, you know, he told me it was supposed to be me, which was an interesting thing to say.

Jimmy Dore

Andrew Colvett said it was supposed. Andrew Colvett, the spokesperson for tpusa said told it Candace Owens. It was supposed to be you. First of all, how the hell would he know that?

Kurt Mexican

Is he just saying it to be mean? What does that mean?

Jimmy Dore

I don't know. But. But first of all, I knew that you knew that, Kurt. That Andrew Colvitt, everybody who follows her, her show and everybody on Twitter knows that. You know who didn't know that Sean Ryan didn't know that.

Candace Owens

That.

Jimmy Dore

And Andrew Colvin said that. That's funny. Let's watch his. Let's watch his fake surprise.

Sean Ryan

You know, he told me it was supposed to be me. Which was an interesting thing to say. Andrew Colbert said to me a few

Jimmy Dore

days after, that's my favorite. What? That's my favorite. What? This is great. Okay, here we go.

Sean Ryan

Or the assassination. And at the moment, I just took it as poorly expressed grief, you know, because I didn't find Andrew to be suspicious. Because I just didn't. My mind wasn't there. But he said to me on the phone, it was supposed to be you. Verbatim.

Candace Owens

Are you serious?

Sean Ryan

But I thought that was just. He was crying. I was crying. I thought he was crying.

Christian Parenti

He legitimately said it was supposed to be you.

Sean Ryan

It was supposed to be you. So I have questions about that now, given everything that happened in the lead up to that. I think Charlie. I think Charlie knew something. I think the biggest question that has not been answered in all of this is.

Jimmy Dore

Here it is. Here's the biggest question. What is that biggest question.

Sean Ryan

What happened at the Hamptons? What happened when Bibi Netanyahu called?

Christian Parenti

I don't know about this.

Jimmy Dore

So he doesn't know about this. Do you? First again, Agnes, come on, Sean, I get it, but come on. You're pretending to not know about the meeting at the Hamptons and that Netanyahu called in, offered him to take his organization to the next level, offered him hundreds of millions of dollars, and Charlie said no. And then the next day, he said, they're going to kill me. What?

Kurt Mexican

Could just be. Great interview technique. But again, he's not Joe Rogan. He's an ex CIA and Navy seal. So that's a little weird. It's normal for a UFC announcer to be saying that. It's weird for him to be doing it.

Jimmy Dore

I. I find it very weird.

Sean Ryan

That has not been answered in all of this, is what happened at the Hamptons when Bibi Netanyahu called.

Christian Parenti

I don't know about this.

Jimmy Dore

I don't know about this.

Sean Ryan

It was a couple of weeks where Charlie died. Well, August 5th and 6th, he did a summit at Bill Ackman's house, where, you know, Bill Ackman was kind of hosting a bunch of pro Israel people. And Charlie was pressed on his view, his changing views, and he was pressed by Seth Dillon. Voices were raised. And he wanted to know why he's not, you know, why you can't criticize Bibi Netanyahu and not be called anti Semitic. There was a smaller dinner that took place and Bill Ackman, Erica, was present, and Bibi Netanyahu called. Now, what I was told directly from Andrew Colbett, which Erica didn't Know that my source was Andrew Colbert on this. She was surprised in person when I told her this was that Bibi offered to take Turning Point USA to the next level and Charlie said no. In exchange for what?

Jimmy Dore

In exchange for what?

Sean Ryan

Also, how does an organization that's pulling in 150 million a year, what is the next level? It's a lot of money. 150 million year.

Jimmy Dore

A billion dollars.

Sean Ryan

In exchange for what do you think? In exchange for him pledging to preach free markets and capitalism. So at the moment that you refuse an offer from a man that deranged, that psychopathic, that bloodthirsty youy know something?

Jimmy Dore

You know, he obviously has enormous amount

Christian Parenti

of influence over the current administration, correct?

Jimmy Dore

I mean, enormous amount of influence.

Candace Owens

It's pretty fucking obvious.

Christian Parenti

I think everybody's seeing it.

Sean Ryan

In exchange for what? I'll take your company to the next level.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

Cool.

Sean Ryan

What? In exchange for what? I think it's a, it's a, it's a trillion dollar question. And Erica, when I asked her about that and she admitted the Bibi Netanyahu call happened, that she was there and she said, oh, he was just calling because Charlie had written him a letter in May and it's just so stupid. So stupid. Oh, he's not busy. He just was calling to say, hey, toodles. Like, just wanted to know how you're doing. I saw your letter, thanks for it. He was just I said, that's it. Okay, so I'm supposed to believe Andrew lied about that, that he offered to take it to the next level and she was coming to say no, that that didn't happen. He just wanted to just check in with Charlie? That's not true. She's lying. And I know she's lying because then somebody in Andrew Colbett's family, orbit, reached out to me and said that that definitively happened because Andrew said that when Charlie said no, he lost millions. Andrew Colbert lost millions when Charlie said no.

Jimmy Dore

What? How, how does the PR guy for TP USA lose millions of dollars when Charlie turns down money from Benjamin Netanyahu? Huh? Huh?

Kurt Mexican

Does he get a bonus?

Sean Ryan

You wonder, how does a PR guy lose millions? He's a spokesperson for Turning Point usa. And then I had to remind myself that he owns a piece of the Charlie Kirk show, right? So I don't know if it was going to be via the Charlie Kirk show, which was at that moment with Salem. Salem has recently filed, you know, under Farah. They're working with that faith by works. And the whole thing in Salem is a part of that filing. So they are effectively foreign agents. I don't know how that money was going to come in. That's another question that if we had any real journalists, they would be exploring that. But, yeah, Bibi Netanyahu calling. And Charlie not just refusing it, but he had anger towards Bibi. He did. And how do you know? Because Bibi Netanyahu that month did a ton of shows. Very strange, by the way, that a prime minister of Israel was suddenly hitting the orbit doing pr. He did a ton of shows. I mean, Patrick bet David's show, Brandon Tatum's show, and he hadn't before that done any sort of podcasting since he was, like, hawking his book, you know, like years ago. He didn't do Charlie Kirk show because Charlie didn't want to have him on again. Something told to me as a fact by Andrew Colbett. Charlie refused to. Happy man. Yahoo. Want to show. So if you want to know how Charlie was feeling about Israel and Bibi Netanyahu, there's your answer. How people couldn't see the Israel threat in this doesn't make any sense to me. I can't.

Candace Owens

I can't believe.

Jimmy Dore

He said it was supposed to be you.

Sean Ryan

He did.

Candace Owens

Does that scare you?

Sean Ryan

I mean, what does that mean?

Kurt Mexican

You seem fearless. What are they gonna explain what the hell that means? What do you mean? He said supposed to be you. You were supposed to go to the college that day. What does that mean? But they're not. He's not asking her.

Sean Ryan

We're all here for a blip. And I think it's not about not having any fears. It's about what scares me more. Right. What scares me more is considering the world that our children will inherit if we stay quiet. Because we feel it right now. We feel the squeeze, we feel the evil, we feel the cloud. It's there. And you have a bunch of people who, whether it's for money or for fear, are allowing it to happen. And there are so many historical lessons about what can happen to a country when good men do nothing. And so what scares me is thinking about what's going to be like in America when my children are my age. Because I was too scared to say something when Charlie Kirk was publicly assassinated and the most powerful people in the country colluded to lie about it. If Charlie Kirk was not safe in the United States of America, nobody is. Nobody is.

Christian Parenti

No matter where you're watching the Sean Ryan show from.

Jimmy Dore

Okay, there you go.

Kurt Mexican

Well, it was very interesting. Sean Palmisano, real name, not Sean Ryan. Don't know why he's going by that. Is he hiding out? He has a podcast. It doesn't make sense.

Jimmy Dore

It doesn't make sense.

Kurt Mexican

He's not a mick, he's a dago.

Guest Caller/Commentator

He.

Jimmy Dore

I never. I never heard about this meeting at the Hamptons with Bill Ackman and Charlie Kirk and Benjamin Netanyahu calling.

Kurt Mexican

Really?

Jimmy Dore

I don't know anything about anything. Come on.

Kurt Mexican

Because he'll have somebody on. It'll be interesting. Eric Hacker, my friend, was on. It was great. Then I'll watch him talk to one of these scumbag CIA ladies who just spouts nonsense about how ISIS is here.

Jimmy Dore

Yeah. Remember that? Yeah. And there's sleeper cells of ISIS in the United States. And so. So she's just priming the pump for false flags is what she's doing. And he lets her do it.

Kurt Mexican

People go, oh, if John Kiriaku, can you trust him? Or whatever. But like, the guys that aren't in the CIA, they talk a certain way. Even if they're not saying, like, going as far as I go, they're not talking like him, where he's like, oh, could the CIA. Do you think there might be something there?

Jimmy Dore

I don't know. I don't know about this.

Kurt Mexican

A white Italian guy that ran a drug ring in Colombia. Somehow that was allowed. And now you're fine, you have a new name. You do podcasts like Joe Rogan. I mean, anything's possible, I guess.

Jimmy Dore

I don't know about this.

Kurt Mexican

Also, I gotta tell you, Palmisano, it's fucking weird to. When you're building a house or a studio to take bibles and put them at the four corners of the house in the foundation. That, and I'm only saying this. A guy that, you know, used to be a minister. For real. I'm hardcore radical Islamic now, but when I was younger, I was a minister. And you're supposed to read it. You're not supposed to use it as a magic charm under your podcast studio. I don't know if you know. You know, I know you're Catholic, but, you know, a priest will tell you that. Why would you do that? That is some wacky magical shit. That's nothing you're supposed to do with the Bible. Bury it on the foundation of your house. What? Like that makes. He has a whole clip about it. You're like, why would you do that again? That's crazy.

Jimmy Dore

I haven't heard about. I haven't heard about this.

Kurt Mexican

Well, it's interesting.

Jimmy Dore

I just. I just find it interesting. That's All I just like the first to bring up Apex. She's the first to bring up this thing about apac, which is just interesting.

Nicholas Holscher

It's interesting.

Jimmy Dore

You say that, which is just interesting.

Kurt Mexican

What's interesting about it?

Jimmy Dore

That it's just interesting as you bring up apac.

Kurt Mexican

Look, I'm gonna come out with it. I think that Sean Ryan is Doug from that Nickelodeon kids cartoon. And if you look it up, you'll

Jimmy Dore

see that stand for you.

Nicholas Holscher

All right.

Jimmy Dore

I got one more thing I want to show you over to stuff.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

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Jimmy Dore

Oh, we have a special.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

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Jimmy Dore

Not to stop a virus.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

Same with eye covering. It's called personal protective equipment.

Jimmy Dore

Yes. It's not to stop a virus.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

Vintage Prime. Jimmy. Is that Jimmy vi?

Jimmy Dore

Hold on.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

If it looks like a fake Jew takeover of the United States, you. Well, good. That means you have a pulse. They gotta go.

Jimmy Dore

The Jews.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

Let's see. Regarding 9 11.

Jimmy Dore

There's a lot of good Jews. Don't do that. It's. You're making it. You're I. I complaining.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

You're thinking Zionist. That's what you want to say. There's lots.

Jimmy Dore

There's lots of Jews who are not Zionists.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

The INDICUS prime regarding 9 11. Heat operates on a gradient. It's not ubiquitous. Uniform temperature and is lower at the extremities. So the heat at the one side was less than at the other. Therefore melts slower Vienticus.

Jimmy Dore

I still don't get it, Barbreed.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

You should watch the videos of sky above Venezuela just prior to the quakes. Watch it on the Crow House. Really, Barbreed. That devastation is heartbreaking. Einstein's letter to the New York. Is it New York Times, Dec 4, 1948. He warned the US that PM Menachem Begin was an Ergon terrorist. We didn't Listen, that's. Again, Jimmy, I know I was right the sixth.

Jimmy Dore

All right, come to me.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

All right, back to Jim.

Nicholas Holscher

Jazz.

Jimmy Dore

So you know this guy, Mitch McConnell, he's been, Listen, he was, he was the head of the Republicans in the Senate for decades. And then when he finally started to completely melt down, they, he still is in the Senate. They just gave the, the leadership position to somebody else. But you remember this guy, right?

Nicholas Holscher

And a string.

Jimmy Dore

Then everybody starts to get like, hey, is he. What is, is he about to die? What is he doing? Is he having a stroke? Okay, you're having a stroke. We're gonna take you off. Did you. Do you know where you are? Who's the president? You want to just go back to the. Go, go back. Put your head down. Okay, I'll go. Okay, I'm gonna go put my head down. Let's go back. Let's go back. Let's go back and put your head down. Are you, you don't need to talk today. Let's go have some soup. Want some soup? Well, guess what? That guy still in the Senate, guess what? They found him unconscious two, four weeks ago. Listen to this. This is James Lee.

Kurt Mexican

Listen, he came that horse.

Jimmy Dore

What's that?

Kurt Mexican

He came that hard.

Jimmy Dore

That hard. I think Mitch McConnell might actually be dead. So this is from one hour ago. Senator Mitch Mc McConnell found unconscious when rushed to hospital. This is July 1, 11, 12am today.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

Response unconscious.

Jimmy Dore

The Senator was reportedly found unconscious when he was rushed to the hospital. McConnell lost consciousness at his home in Washington D.C. on the morning of June 14th. Okay, so this was weeks ago, teen days ago, 16 days ago, after a 911 call was made. TMZ reported a rep from McConnell said the senator was receiving excellent care in heaven. Yeah, look, I think he might be like, dead.

Anya Perampel

So the question is, if Mitch McConnell dies, it now would be a opportunity for Thomas Massie to take that senator seat.

Jimmy Dore

Boom.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

Oh, wow.

Jimmy Dore

What do you think? What do you make of that, Kurt? I'll throw it to you, Kurt.

Kurt Mexican

I was waiting for the headline to tell me he was still alive. Because I remember that back then I lost track of old Mitch, I guess when Trump was talking to people and Everybody booed Mitch McConnell. Mitch McConnell's alive. And I can't believe he's been there this whole time. Like Joe Biden's alive, apparently, Right?

Jimmy Dore

Yeah, apparently both of them, they're still alive. So wouldn't that be something if Thomas Massie ran for a special Senate seat? So do you, do you think that he is dead? Wouldn't that be something if they're keeping it on the DL so Thomas Massie can't run.

Kurt Mexican

Remember Dianne Feinstein? I mean, all these people are dead. That's one big weekend of Bernie's. But there's, like, a bunch of them.

Jimmy Dore

That's kind of amazing. Let's watch him. Let's watch this again. And a string of. He's just standing there. He's just a coat rack with a tie. He's just standing there. Are you okay?

Nicholas Holscher

Image.

Jimmy Dore

Do you want to. You want to go lay your head down?

Kurt Mexican

Sure. Let's go back to it.

Jimmy Dore

Do you want to say anything else to the press? No, No, I don't want to say anything. I'm. Go have some. Go have some soup. Go ahead, John. You got my soup for me? I'm gonna take a bath.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

There he is.

Jimmy Dore

I think Mitch McConnell might actually be dead. So this is from one hour ago. So I don't know. We'll see. We'll see. All right, we gotta go. Kurt, I'll see you. Great talking to you.

Kurt Mexican

Yep.

Jimmy Dore

I'm gonna be off. I'm gonna be doing book clubs, though. I know I supposed to do one today, but I decided I'm gonna do it at my leisure because what I like to do when I'm on my vacation is read Carl Jung. So we're gonna be. I'm not probably gonna. We're gonna finish that book for sure.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

And.

Kurt Mexican

Book is it.

Jimmy Dore

It's the memories, Dreams, Reflections.

Kurt Mexican

Hmm.

Jimmy Dore

It's fine.

Kurt Mexican

I'll see you. Well, I'll see Keaton, I guess, on Monday.

Jimmy Dore

Let me know when that, that, that. How'd that TV show turn out?

Kurt Mexican

We're still putting together. It turned out great. I mean, it looks, like, really good. I can't. It looks double the price of what they paid for it.

Jimmy Dore

Really? Because it didn't. They didn't seem like they spared much expense.

Kurt Mexican

They got good people. I told you. I got the cinematographer's name. I figured out who was doing what to keep in touch with for later when I do my hour, you know.

Jimmy Dore

Oh, really?

Kurt Mexican

Yeah. That looks great. The footage looks great. I'm blown away how. How good it looks. And now cutouts are more relevant than ever.

Jimmy Dore

CIA cutouts? Yeah, it's called the Cutout. Can't wait to see the finished product. I hope it gets picked up. I'd love to be an actor in that series.

Kurt Mexican

I bet you don't want to make it a series regardless of if it's, like, picked up, because Freda, the person in Charge is like a huge comedy fan, and she's like, we have to control it. It's funny. We have to control. I've never even heard anybody talk this way. Who was the money behind the thing? Like that. Really encouraging. I was like, oh, that's great. She's the best for that.

Jimmy Dore

Fantastic.

Kurt Mexican

Well, goodbye, guys.

Jimmy Dore

Good luck.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

Bye.

Jimmy Dore

Bye. Okay, well, I'm gonna be off until August 1st, and. But I will be doing book clubs, so if you'd like, if you're interested in that, I'll be doing those. But we're gonna have our guests. Keaton Weiss. We're gonna have Russell Dobular. We're gonna have Garland Nixon. We're gonna have Misty Putin. So we're gonna have four different guest hosts while I'm gone. So I have to enjoy. I have to take a break because I'm breaking down, and that's no good. So hopefully I come back stronger than ever in August. We'll see what happens. But August 30th, we're having that live celebrity panel show. Go to jimmy doe.com for a link for tickets in Burbank. Everybody loves those shows. And, oh, I want to say congrats to my show.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

Show. Brownie. Computer beside Jimmy, please. There we go. So that's my plain background behind you, too, Jimmy.

Jimmy Dore

Go full screen with that.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

Full screen.

Jimmy Dore

That's my nephew, Connor Dore. He won two Emmys for his reporting. So he's an investigative reporter in Bakersfield, California. Is that called the. Is that called the Valley? The Central Valley? I don't know. I don't know if that's what that's called. But anyway, he's a reporter there, and of course, he's kicking ass. He got. He won two Emmys. Two. I think they should say Emmys Award winner, not Emmy. He's Emmys award winner. Look at that. So he's 24 years old, got two Emmys already for doing reporting. Isn't that something? Great job. Very proud. I'm going to take a lot of the credit because he interned. He entered at the Jimmy Dore show for a few weeks about four or five years ago, and I'm certainly. I sure inspired him. Look at him. Looks good in a suit. Good for him. All right. Great job. Congratulations, Connor. Everybody's proud. All right. Over.

Nicholas Holscher

Steph.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

Couldn't be prouder. Oh, my gosh. All right, ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much. You know, a friend of the show sent me this link called More Than a the Spirit of1776.net. Yeah, I know. And it's about preserving human integrity into the future. And so check out my tweet at Miserable Lib.

Jimmy Dore

Miserable Lib.

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

All right, thank you, Jimmy. And I'm gonna wrap it up, ladies and gentlemen. I'm gonna go on a break, too. I am so excited about the vacation. I've been wanting a vacation, I think, since March. I think that's it. Let's see here. Okay, I've got a couple that just came in, folks. All right, my team is making their way out of here. All right, Jimmy. Thank you, team.

Nicholas Holscher

Okay,

Steph (Tech/Chat Host)

let's go here. I gotta put that. All right, let's. What do I have here? I've come to the conclusion that all Israeli translation should be read with a thick German accent. Vienticus. If they ever pass a law making Israel criticism illegal, I will put Israel signs in my yard. Sound chaser. I know. I prefer Zionism. Let's see here. And I said fake Jews. Guys, most iOS's are atheists. Like the founder of Zionism. Not my intention to conflate. Ah, Jimmy, thank you so much. Nice to hear from you again. We love you all and we'll miss you. Relax and get rest. And no Twitter. I wonder if he won't do any Twitter. And you can put camera four beside me, too. Oh, there you go. Look at Connor. Hey, that's the exact face I make when I try to take a shit in public without anyone noticing. Corn pop. What are you talking about? All right, ladies and gentlemen, that's it. When we strive to become better than we are, everything around us becomes better, too. Now go and do something nice for somebody. A foot massage. I don't know. Buy somebody some ice cream and enjoy your weekend. And our show will be back on Monday. See you later. Bye.