
It’s the ham of the family, a.k.a. Olivia Wilde. We dip into a bowl of mixed Pop Tarts: proxy film school, Tony’s mothballs, the Rockwell Technique, and of course a lil Hendrix pickleball. You’re born with it. Welcome to SmartLess.
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Olivia Wilde
Hi, I'm Olivia Wilde. I somehow got talked into being on smart lists, so I don't know. This is a disaster. Welcome to Smartless Smart Less.
Sean Hayes
Smart less. Smart less. We love our eagle. We love the ego.
Will Arnett
Can you get a small I love you. You get a nice small mustache and then start doing the.
Sean Hayes
I don't go full, like, little pointy goat.
Jason Bateman
Yeah, like.
Will Arnett
So, Sean, are those new? Are those new specs?
Jason Bateman
Oh, yeah. Do you like them?
Sean Hayes
Yeah. Nope.
Jason Bateman
No. Sorry.
Sean Hayes
I do.
Paris Hilton
Sorry.
Will Arnett
I'm sorry.
Jason Bateman
You said that so quickly.
Will Arnett
No, I do. I do.
Jason Bateman
They're nice.
Will Arnett
Wait, who made the clear horn rim frames famous? I feel like it was like a Ted McGinley or one of those handsome.
Sean Hayes
I think I did Andy Richter.
Jason Bateman
Oh, Andy Richter wears them.
Sean Hayes
Yeah.
Jason Bateman
Yeah.
Sean Hayes
For a long time.
Will Arnett
What did I just see?
Jason Bateman
Andy Richter is in, and he's an obsession.
Will Arnett
Obsession. Yes.
Jason Bateman
Yeah, he was great.
Sean Hayes
I love Andy. Can I just say that, just as a general rule, Connie is so fun.
Will Arnett
I know. What's not to love?
Sean Hayes
He's so fucking funny.
Jason Bateman
Yeah, he is funny.
Will Arnett
Well, then you can take the surprise out of your voice.
Sean Hayes
No, I'm not surprised, but it's just you have those moments where you just think about something and you go, God, Andy. God, we Used to have so much. Remember we used to play cards with Andy.
Will Arnett
Steve's still alive.
Sean Hayes
No, I know. I'm just saying. Remember we used to play cards all the time back in the day?
Will Arnett
You know, with Kyle Gass.
Sean Hayes
Yeah, with Kyle. I remember Andy one time at my old place in Venice, you remember? And he came the stairs and he had somebody. Giles had brought like fudge or something. And Andy came down and he had. There's fudge all around his mouth. And he's like, hey, I couldn't find the. I couldn't find the fudge.
Jason Bateman
I couldn't find the fudge.
Sean Hayes
I couldn't find the fudge. And it was all around his mouth. He was like. It wasn't anywhere. I couldn't find it anywhere.
Jason Bateman
Yeah. Jay, what did you think about Obsession? Wasn't it a good movie?
Will Arnett
Yeah, I really liked it. Now, is that what you were watching with my wife the other day?
Jason Bateman
I was watching it with your wife in your house, and you weren't there.
Will Arnett
So jealous.
Jason Bateman
Yeah.
Sean Hayes
Let me just.
Will Arnett
Scotty was there, too.
Jason Bateman
And Scotty was there. Yeah.
Sean Hayes
Let me just see, if I must.
Will Arnett
You're going to pay for that. I will pay for that.
Jason Bateman
I will pay for that one.
Will Arnett
No, you're going to. You're going to text the guys after this session. You're going to say, hey, guys, would you trim out the little spot where I totally forgot that Scott was sitting next to me.
Sean Hayes
Don't.
Jason Bateman
Wait, Jason, you just nodded to somebody. Is that somebody making you egg sandwich or something?
Will Arnett
Ew. Close.
Jason Bateman
Oh, Ew. Who's there?
Will Arnett
That's Morgan.
Jason Bateman
Who's Morgan?
Will Arnett
Morgan is my incredible partner here in jp.
Sean Hayes
Oh, you've got a partner now? Look at you.
Will Arnett
Yeah, she's.
Narrator/Announcer
She's.
Will Arnett
She's. Now I have two partners here. I don't like to say assistants.
Sean Hayes
Yeah.
Jason Bateman
Because I like to stay relatable.
Sean Hayes
Yeah, sure.
Will Arnett
But you know. You know who is assisting my assistant here?
Jason Bateman
Who's that?
Will Arnett
Franny, Francesca, Nora Bateman.
Jason Bateman
Is she there right now?
Will Arnett
She is.
Jason Bateman
She is a. Tell her we say hello.
Sean Hayes
Yeah, let's turn the camera.
Will Arnett
There she is out there in the production office. Can you see her?
Sean Hayes
Look at that.
Jason Bateman
Oh, yeah. Look at that. Look at her.
Narrator/Announcer
Look at.
Jason Bateman
You're just in some lonely office, you know.
Sean Hayes
You know, by the way, you know who stays relatable? People who don't say, I want to stay relatable.
Jason Bateman
Yeah.
Sean Hayes
Because they don't have to. They don't have to curate it.
Will Arnett
My insincerity is bleeding through.
Sean Hayes
Yeah, man. Why do we got it. What is the sandwich that you got, though? Are you gonna dig into it?
Narrator/Announcer
No.
Will Arnett
Do we just push forward? We don't talk about your net jets or. Let's go past that.
Narrator/Announcer
We'll go past that.
Sean Hayes
Let's talk about.
Will Arnett
Or your Long island second home.
Sean Hayes
Let's talk about nut jets. There's Scotty.
Will Arnett
Oh, look at Scotty. Don't try to make up for it.
Sean Hayes
Oh, Scotty. He's doing pray Hands, by the way. It's easy travel, you know, you call and then they're there and then they get you from where you need to go.
Will Arnett
You should try one flight. Not a paid flight's a better service.
Sean Hayes
Not a big dad.
Will Arnett
Disgusting.
Sean Hayes
It's so gross, guys. Let's not cut it, though. So, Sean, now, Sean, what did Scotty bring you? Is that just warm milk? A bowl of mixed Pop Tarts?
Jason Bateman
No, warm milk. It's tea. It's tea with sugar and cream.
Sean Hayes
Sugar and cream? What kind of. Even with the tea, you can't take your foot off the gas.
Jason Bateman
I think it's artificial sweetener today.
Sean Hayes
What kind of tea are we having?
Jason Bateman
Just regular. Regular English breakfast tea. Yeah.
Sean Hayes
Okay. Okay.
Jason Bateman
You know, there's a cake lady coming, though. Remember? The cake lady?
Sean Hayes
Well, this is not a surprise. Yeah, but. Yes, I do remember.
Will Arnett
I don't remember. What do you mean, a cake?
Sean Hayes
He's got a woman who. I've used her. She's amazing.
Jason Bateman
She's great.
Sean Hayes
And she'll make any.
Will Arnett
I mean, you've used her. What are you talking about?
Sean Hayes
For one of the kids birthdays.
Jason Bateman
Yeah, we call her. Her name is Cake Lady. But she's a real name.
Will Arnett
Pull the relatable bus over to the side for a second.
Jason Bateman
No, she's like 10 bucks.
Will Arnett
You don't go down to the fucking store and buy a cake.
Jason Bateman
No, she's like 10 bucks. And she delivers it. Yeah, she makes it. And she'll deliver it to your house. And it's the best cake you've ever had.
Will Arnett
Such a drag to go to a store and put some time in to buy your child.
Sean Hayes
By the way, if anybody gets a sighting of JB at a store, please take a pic. Please let me tell you something and post it. Let me tell you. I went to Whole Foods downtown.
Will Arnett
A few things that I like better than pushing a cart aisle by aisle by aisle and taking three hours to. To do 10 minutes of shopping under
Sean Hayes
the heading of things that never fucking happen.
Will Arnett
I do love a good market session.
Sean Hayes
When was the last time?
Will Arnett
I mean, last time I was in actually, what, two days ago, I had to run down the street to get me and my assistant's assistant some dinner.
Sean Hayes
Do you go to Whole Foods?
Will Arnett
No, I went to this. No, this place that is.
Sean Hayes
Oh, I know that upscale marketplace.
Will Arnett
Yeah, Meadow Lane, right?
Sean Hayes
Yeah, I met her like, by the way, that place you talk about relatable. That's like the most expensive market in tribe.
Jason Bateman
But hang on.
Will Arnett
But it's so convenient. What's this down the way?
Sean Hayes
And it's so nice. It's so.
Jason Bateman
Ss Wait, what's it called?
Will Arnett
It's called Meadow Lane. It's sort of. It. It's. It's the rich man's Erewhan, which is like.
Jason Bateman
Which is redundant.
Will Arnett
Yeah, it's very small, but it's incredible.
Sean Hayes
And I don't mean to. I don't mean to disparage the place. It's very nice.
Will Arnett
I know, but they've got to come down on prices. It's going to come. It's going to go out of. So you can't. You can't charge $25 for a prepackaged chicken, Chinese, whatever, salad thing.
Jason Bateman
Wait, do you know what Erewhan backwards is?
Sean Hayes
Yeah, man.
Will Arnett
Nowhere. Yeah, yeah, thanks. Okay, our next guest, guys. Today's guest.
Sean Hayes
Hey. If you fold a dollar bill into three things, then you'll be able to see that there's a message.
Jason Bateman
You know what More park is backwards?
Narrator/Announcer
More Park.
Jason Bateman
You know the street in the Valley?
Will Arnett
Sure, yeah. Tell me.
Jason Bateman
Crap room. It's Crap room.
Sean Hayes
Crap room.
Will Arnett
Wow. My 14 year old's gonna love that. She goes to school near there. Okay, thanks for bringing us down, guys. Sitting and chatting with us today is pure sunshine on feet. This actor director is a woman I have had the deep pleasure of working with twice.
Paris Hilton
Wow.
Will Arnett
As an actor, she has done fantastic work in both comedy and drama in film, stage and t director. She's one of the most exciting and sought after new voices today. And having already done three films, which no doubt there will be more, as many more as she wants, as she wishes. She's a true friend. Reveal yourself, Olivia. Your tasty ear meal. Here is Olivia Wilde.
Jason Bateman
How in the world did you get that?
Narrator/Announcer
Will?
Jason Bateman
Will, how did you get.
Sean Hayes
Because she's one of the most sought after directors out there. Well, of course. Come on.
Will Arnett
That's a layup.
Olivia Wilde
I think you could hear my heavy breathing. I think that's.
Will Arnett
Was that your small dog?
Sean Hayes
That was the last part of the intro, Jason. It says known for her heavy breathing. Right?
Will Arnett
Wild Olivia, welcome to the show.
Sean Hayes
Welcome.
Will Arnett
This is great. I Feel like it's long overdue. Can we have trouble making your deal?
Sean Hayes
Oh, God, is this overdue?
Jason Bateman
What?
Olivia Wilde
I. Well, I. Everyone. I finally did every other podcast, and this was it.
Narrator/Announcer
The last.
Will Arnett
You saved the best for last in this world, right?
Olivia Wilde
So exciting. Sitting here spying on you guys is a really weird, thrilling feeling.
Will Arnett
I apologize for all the coffee chat.
Olivia Wilde
It's so great. I want 45 minutes of that and three of me, and then we're done.
Jason Bateman
Well, you're in. Guess what.
Will Arnett
Yeah, here it comes. We're not gonna let you talk at all. Yeah, our favorite is to ask you a question and then tell you what our answer is for that question. And then whatever time remains, you can talk.
Olivia Wilde
Oh, I know. I'm a longtime listener.
Will Arnett
Are you.
Olivia Wilde
Big fan.
Will Arnett
Who's your favorite?
Olivia Wilde
Of course you're my favorite because you brought me on. Will didn't. Even though. Even though Will and I just put together.
Sean Hayes
We did.
Will Arnett
Oh, you did?
Sean Hayes
We did.
Will Arnett
That's right. Did you guys have scenes together?
Sean Hayes
We did.
Will Arnett
Really?
Olivia Wilde
Yeah.
Sean Hayes
Yeah. Sounds like a pivotal scene. We don't want to say too much this.
Will Arnett
Well, let's go ahead. Let's start with that. Let's tell them about your film coming out, y'. All.
Olivia Wilde
We're in a film called Behemoth.
Jason Bateman
You know, I'll say it's.
Olivia Wilde
It's Behemoth and directed by Tony Gilroy.
Will Arnett
The great Tony Gilroy.
Olivia Wilde
The coolest.
Sean Hayes
Is the coolest guy of all time.
Will Arnett
Hey, Will, why don't you try to book him, huh?
Jason Bateman
Yeah, why don't we get him on?
Sean Hayes
I'd love to have. I am going to get Tony. I am.
Olivia Wilde
Will, you have to.
Sean Hayes
Oh, my God, dude.
Will Arnett
I'll fan all, by the way.
Sean Hayes
Listener, listener, please look Tony Gilroy up, and you'll be amazed at just his credits alone. He's just incredible.
Olivia Wilde
Michael Clayton, his first film. Somehow.
Sean Hayes
The first film that he directed.
Olivia Wilde
Yeah, that he directed. He's an incredible writer, but that's a perfect movie.
Will Arnett
He gets Robert Elswit to be the DP on that right out of the gate.
Olivia Wilde
Crazy. It's crazy. It's like Citizen Kane. He's like, how about this? I'll try this job, and it's perfect. But he's so cool and so chill, and he makes it look so easy. I was just entirely obsessed with him and his wife. He's got a real cool thing, like you and Amanda, Jason. He's like that. They're, like, just cool and obsessed with each other.
Sean Hayes
Amanda's cool. Yeah.
Olivia Wilde
Amanda's.
Narrator/Announcer
She's Got.
Will Arnett
She cares a cool for both of us.
Narrator/Announcer
Yeah.
Sean Hayes
Yeah. The great Tony Gill, right? God, we love him.
Olivia Wilde
We love.
Sean Hayes
Can I just. Can I tell you something funny? Olivia happened to me last week.
Will Arnett
I want to listen. Let me listen.
Sean Hayes
I had.
Olivia Wilde
Well, I guess this is for us.
Sean Hayes
So I had. I had dinner with Tony like two weeks ago and. And here in L. A. And then I.
Will Arnett
Talk about reshooting yourself where I was
Olivia Wilde
here, but keep going.
Sean Hayes
We just catch you. And I. And I, we split the bill. So we both put our cards down when we signed the bill or whatever and we split.
Will Arnett
Surprised they got half out of you.
Sean Hayes
Couple days later. A couple days later. No, I did go through the bill. I kept going. You had two drinks, right?
Jason Bateman
Cause I didn't touch who had the French bite.
Sean Hayes
If I'm looking at the dessert, like I never even touched it. And so then. And then a couple days later, I go shopping to buy a few new items to get some clothes. And the bill was pretty hefty. And I give him the card. The guy gives it back and he hands me the card back. And I'm talking to my friend and I look down. It says Tony Gilroy on the credit card.
Jason Bateman
Yeah.
Sean Hayes
And then I text him, I go, hey, man, so listen, you're about to
Will Arnett
get a big thanks for the tops.
Sean Hayes
And so he goes, oh, shit. And he goes, I'm going back to Nori. He goes, all right, I'll come over and grab it from you. I'm right around the corner. And he goes. He goes, I don't. I'm trying to think if I bought anything in the last couple of days. And there's a pause in the test. And he goes, the only thing I thought, I think I bought, embarrassingly enough, are mothballs. What?
Olivia Wilde
That's relatable.
Will Arnett
So anyway, he's got. Some guy's got a lot of cashmere.
Olivia Wilde
He does. He does a lot of cashmere. I bet he sleeps in cashmere. But this movie is starring Pedro Pascal, and I have no idea when it comes to it, but it's going to be so good because there are at least seven composers on that film. It's a film about music and Pedro plays a cellist. And you also play a musician.
Sean Hayes
Yes.
Olivia Wilde
Did you get to play music in the movie?
Sean Hayes
No, no, I'm kind of.
Olivia Wilde
I read it. I think I read it. I read my scenes. No, I read it.
Will Arnett
What instrument did they say your character played?
Sean Hayes
Well, they just said it's just a bunch. Just. He's just kind of like an all around kind of whatever's available. Yeah, he's a dude kind of see often, like, I don't know if you're catching my 10. 10,000 yard stare. He's kind of a guy that's got a lot going on inside, you know?
Jason Bateman
Yeah.
Will Arnett
I love when you. I duet the reed. Hopefully it's a wind instrument.
Jason Bateman
Yeah.
Will Arnett
Yeah. So truly, it's about, it's about, it's about conductors, composers, sort of. Right.
Olivia Wilde
Yeah. And like film composition, like music for film. And it's kind of a love letter to that world. And they show that process, which is so cool.
Sean Hayes
Yeah, it's cool.
Will Arnett
Wow. Yeah. That is something that, that your average moviegoer does not get a chance to learn about that much.
Narrator/Announcer
Exactly.
Sean Hayes
It's fascinating. It's really, really fascinating. Kind of getting in and out of them, the people who, who inhabit that world and what they are. And, you know, and some of them are just the most brilliant.
Olivia Wilde
And Will plays Pedro's brother.
Sean Hayes
Yeah.
Olivia Wilde
Put that together in your head.
Will Arnett
Wow.
Olivia Wilde
Make that make sense. And it does because you're that good. It was the tan. It's the tan that you currently have.
Will Arnett
That's why he's still wearing all the makeup.
Sean Hayes
Thank you.
Will Arnett
There was no you guys. All right, well, let's talk about.
Sean Hayes
Like, I'm not here.
Will Arnett
No. All right, so we've, we've, we've got, we started at the end.
Jason Bateman
Let's go back to the beginning.
Will Arnett
Hey, Livy.
Olivia Wilde
1942.
Will Arnett
I don't think I've ever called you Livy. Now, this has gotten some press before, and I apologize to ask you about it, but here we go. Some of our listeners haven't discussed it's. But I, It's. But it's, but it's. It's cute. I like it. You had to change your name, didn't you, doll?
Olivia Wilde
I, I, you know, I didn't have to. I chose to.
Will Arnett
Oh, you kind of had to. Let's walk the audience through the original.
Jason Bateman
Yeah, I don't know this. What's the original name?
Will Arnett
It's fun.
Olivia Wilde
It's real fun.
Sean Hayes
It's.
Will Arnett
It's fun. But it's, but it's, it's, it's got some real lineage to it, too. So go, go ahead here. Guest.
Olivia Wilde
Okay, thank you so much. I was born with a different name. My family name is actually Coburn, but it's pronounced Coburn, but it's spelled. And I'm going to. I weirdly have a visual for this listener. You won't get it, but it's for these guys. But my last name is.
Will Arnett
Oh, wow.
Jason Bateman
Cockburn.
Sean Hayes
Sean, you were just talking about Cockburn, like, two days ago.
Olivia Wilde
That is. That's right.
Sean Hayes
Because were you saying.
Jason Bateman
By the way. I'm still talking about it.
Sean Hayes
When are you not forgetting in particular? It was behind a dumpster. Anyway, whatever.
Olivia Wilde
Yeah, he had a real case of the Cockburn.
Jason Bateman
I mean, if anybody has any ointment or anything. Yeah, yeah, let me know.
Will Arnett
Wait, it's really pronounced Cockburn.
Olivia Wilde
It's okay. But this is the thing that's not unusual in Scotland. It is pronounced Cockburn. I've never expected anyone in my life to ever be able to get that, to predict that. So.
Jason Bateman
From C O, C, K, by the way.
Olivia Wilde
So people can say, oh, sorry, sorry, sorry.
Jason Bateman
C, O, C, K, O, C, K, B, U, R, N. Cockburn.
Olivia Wilde
Very literally, how you would imagine it being spelled. And it's a name to grow up with, to build character, you know, to. It's a boy named Sue. And it. Yeah, my family are all amazing writers and journalists and just badass people.
Jason Bateman
And that book you just held up, is that somebody from your family that.
Olivia Wilde
Yeah, my sweet assistant has built this little tower for the microphone, and she happened to use these books that are written by my family just to intimidate me, to remind me I haven't done shit in my life. And they're very, very impressive, but they're all amazing.
Jason Bateman
Yeah.
Will Arnett
Well, then. But so, A, how early did you change the name? And B, you landed on Wild because of your affinity for Oscar.
Jason Bateman
Oh, wow.
Olivia Wilde
Yes. And so I changed it when I was 18. I write when you legally can, if you can believe it.
Will Arnett
But hang on. But you went through the toughest teasing years with that name.
Olivia Wilde
Oh, yeah.
Will Arnett
How'd that go?
Olivia Wilde
I think it's. I truly think it's good for you. I think that everyone should be given one really devastating part of their name. Just so you. I was just talking to Dax about this because he also. This was also where he wanted to start.
Will Arnett
He was like, yeah, well, we are a child of that podcast. Wait, that's true. I've never spoken to Dax about his name. What do we know about. What do we know about Dax's first name?
Olivia Wilde
It's actually Cockburn.
Sean Hayes
Yeah, but, like, what is.
Will Arnett
What is Dax is Dax.
Olivia Wilde
Dax is actually his name Dax? No, I think it's Dax.
Sean Hayes
No, he's born Dax. I forget why. His mom, Daxel. What was the deal with that?
Olivia Wilde
Daxel. Isn't that weird? I've never asked him about that Daxel.
Sean Hayes
I have, and I forget Daxton.
Jason Bateman
So wait a minute, Olivia. So did you. So when you. So 18. Why 18? Because. So you wanted to change it forever?
Olivia Wilde
Well, no, I'm. You know, I moved out here. I came right from boarding school. I came right to la, and I was a casting assistant and I was doing. I was going to auditions and I was like, I want to forge my own path. And I had. I wanted to change my name. And I had, like, great affinity for other people who had done that. I thought it was really cool when other people had done that. And I was like, I want. What would I do? And the first play I did that I really loved was the Importance of Being Earnest. And then I read everything that Oscar Wilde wrote and I just became obsessed with him. And he's Irish. My family's Irish. So that's how it happened.
Will Arnett
Yeah.
Jason Bateman
It's such a great name.
Olivia Wilde
Yeah. I didn't think it would be interpreted so, like, pornographically, like, the first 10 years of my career, every headline, every magazine was just like, get wild. Like, born to be wild. Wet and wild. And I was like, oh, fuck. I didn't. I didn't really think this could use
Sean Hayes
a little cockburn right now.
Will Arnett
She kept it as a middle name.
Olivia Wilde
Wonder what I did. Yeah.
Will Arnett
No, wait. But what about being an assistant casting director? Was that what. Now, I would imagine that would have given you some comfort as you started auditioning, that you'd kind of been on the other side of it and you kind of was. Was it less intimidating?
Olivia Wilde
It. You know, I did it because Keener had done it. I was obsessed with Katherine Keener and she had done it.
Sean Hayes
Keener.
Olivia Wilde
It's not something most casting directors will let you do. Like, they don't usually hire wannabe actors. Cause it's, like, dangerous. You have little spies in the office. But I worked for Mally Finn. Do you guys remember Mali?
Jason Bateman
Did you ever do it? Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Yeah.
Olivia Wilde
She was a legend. And so I worked for her first when I was 16, and then when I was 18. So when I was 16, I did for a summer. And then she let me come back at 18 and have a real job. And I worked there for almost a year. And it was wild. I really saw how the sausage was made.
Will Arnett
So were you outside, like, in the sort of reception area and watching everyone practice their faces and mop their brow?
Olivia Wilde
Oh, my God. And it was so many people I later worked with, and I was like, I've seen you.
Sean Hayes
No way.
Olivia Wilde
Another light when you're mad at me because it's taking too long and parking is annoying and you're late and you want coffee.
Will Arnett
Uhhuh.
Jason Bateman
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Will Arnett
All right, back to the show.
Sean Hayes
Did it help you at all, like, understand the audition process? Like, did you feel like it gave you a leg up?
Olivia Wilde
Yeah. Also, she had crazy high standards, so she would not accept anybody unprepared or not off book. Like, she would stop people and say, why don't you come back when you've done the work? And I loved that. It gave me this sense of, like, you better be really prepared. Like, I never have gone to an audition without being. Without being prepared. But she had crazy stories. And the thing that I love is that while I was working there, there was, like, this great legend. Hang on, let me drink my coffee. Because shim it right out.
Will Arnett
It was gonna be smooth as silk.
Olivia Wilde
Oh, yeah. So while I was working there, there was, like, the legend of the Sam Rockwell audition. And it was like, she would tell us, like, the best audition I've ever seen was Sam Rockwell auditioning for the Green Mile.
Jason Bateman
Jason's directing him right now.
Olivia Wilde
Let me tell you this, and please repeat this to him at work today. So she said he came in and it was the last day of the director sessions, the last possible day you could audition. And he came in and he had been given the wrong scenes. And this man, Sam Rockwell, he didn't even pause. He said, well, give me the correct scenes and I'll go learn them really quickly. And they said, that's impossible, Sam. It's ten pages of dialogue. You can't possibly. No one could do it. And he was like, just give me a chance. I don't want to miss this opportunity. So they gave him the right scenes. He goes into the hallway. They only have five minutes to give him to learn the lines. He comes back in and he nails it. And they were floored, and he got the role. And she said that that's an actor who can work that quickly. So years later, I'm working with Sam, and I'm sitting next to him in the makeup chair. And I was like, sam, it's so nice to meet you. What an honor. I have to tell you, I always heard this story when I was an assistant, and it just really inspired me. And he goes, oh, yeah. That was, like, a thing I used to do that worked every time.
Sean Hayes
Oh, really?
Olivia Wilde
And I was like, are you fucking kidding me?
Will Arnett
Oh, that's great.
Olivia Wilde
I have been brilliant. I thought that this. I revered his ability to flash memorize. He knew he had the correct Size. It was a whole performance. Oh, my God. And it's so genius because it lowers their expectations. Then if you even, like. Like, say half the things, right, they're like, God damn, this man learned this in five minutes.
Will Arnett
He's a crafty bugger operator. I better keep my knees bent.
Olivia Wilde
This is that guy. He's like. And the way it's so Sammy. He's like, oh, yeah. That was just, like, a thing I used to do. Yeah. And I was like, wow, he deserves an awesome.
Jason Bateman
I did. I don't know if I told this before, but we can cut this out if it's boring already. Too boring.
Olivia Wilde
No, no, no, we're good.
Sean Hayes
Cut. Pre cut.
Will Arnett
Pre cut.
Sean Hayes
Pre cut.
Jason Bateman
So I went to go audition for the Bucket List with the brilliant Rod Reiner, rest his soul. He was amazing. And I walk in and I had the wrong sides, right? I'd worked on a real for a long time, and I walked in and I had all, like. It wasn't even slightly wrong. It was completely rewrote, all these scenes. And I started auditioning with the scene. And he's like, what are you doing? And I'm like, what do you mean? And he's like, these are. Who gave you these signs? I go, my agent. He's like, no, there's a whole new script. And he's like. I'm like, I didn't know that. I go, great, then let me come back a week later and I'll go work on them. So I work on them, and I had this bit all ready, and I walk in, and it's just me and Rob and, like, a couple producers and a castrator. And I was like, you ready? He's like, yeah. And then I started going, why did you order the. So bad. Like, the worst acting you've ever seen on purpose. I go, why did you order the Code Red? I didn't tell you to order the Code Red. You want the truth? You can't handle the truth.
Sean Hayes
No, no.
Jason Bateman
And I stopped, and he's laughing, and I go, did I get the wrong side?
Olivia Wilde
That's really great.
Jason Bateman
I started doing the scene from A Few Good Men. That's so good.
Will Arnett
Did he give me the part?
Jason Bateman
Yeah, I got it.
Sean Hayes
Yeah, of course.
Jason Bateman
Nice.
Will Arnett
Very nice. So now, Olivia, now that you're on the other side of the table in these auditions, as you're directing these things, are you incredibly more compassionate?
Olivia Wilde
I take, like, 12 hours per session because I'm like you. I wanna hear it all, even if I know from the first moment that it's not gonna be them. I'm like, this is your time. And it's a disaster for everyone else. Cause I will milk it. It's so hard. Auditioning is a fucking nightmare. And these people, they come and it's so vulnerable. And, yeah, being on that side definitely made me a little kinder.
Sean Hayes
But there's so much more. Also self taping now, right? It's all self tape, isn't it?
Olivia Wilde
Oh, yeah.
Will Arnett
That part seems fantastic. Right. Where you can just record your aud.
Jason Bateman
The pressure's off.
Olivia Wilde
I like the room.
Sean Hayes
I like the room.
Olivia Wilde
Yeah.
Will Arnett
What if you don't do well? What if you forget your lines with the self tapes? You don't send it until you're happy
Olivia Wilde
with it, but you overthink it. And, I mean, can you imagine how much the overthinking. And also what I find is when people send me tapes, they've overthought the framing, the lighting. People have full setups now. And I'm like, you don't need that. I'd rather have someone's, like, shitty iPhone selfie video in their car on the way to their real job then. Then, like, at a red light. Yeah. Rather than, like, a full setup that I'm like, you didn't have to do that for me. I don't need all this.
Jason Bateman
But, Olivia, what made you. How did you know that you wanted to just move to Los Angeles and work in a casting director's office? Like, how old?
Olivia Wilde
Well, truly Keener.
Will Arnett
You moved from where?
Olivia Wilde
I read that Keener done it. I was at boarding school in Massachusetts.
Sean Hayes
Okay.
Olivia Wilde
Who went to boarding school here? You said somebody did. Well. Oh, you did.
Sean Hayes
Yeah. Where did you go in Canada? We don't talk about it. We had a bad break. Boarding school. And I had a bad breakup.
Olivia Wilde
Okay. Yeah. Well, mine was. It's tough, but I went to a fancy one. I can't complain. It was very bougie. But I graduated and left the suburbs of Massachusetts after growing up in New York and then D.C. and I had never spent a month much time in the West Coast. I thought LA sounded like this, like, incredible mecca of excitement. And I came out here and took, like, two city buses to work every day in the casting office, and then started auditioning and, you know, kind of, like, scraped my way up slowly. But it was really the dream from the beginning. So for me, it was very exciting even just to be here.
Will Arnett
And where'd you stay when you came out? Did you move into the Oakwoods?
Jason Bateman
No.
Olivia Wilde
That would have been fun. That sounded so fun for Those people you did.
Sean Hayes
I did a few pilot seasons.
Jason Bateman
So for Tracy, that's a place where the actors would go, stay when they came.
Sean Hayes
It was like a corporate housing. And there would be that thing. I remember pilot season. You'd have like six auditions a day, and you're not getting anything. And the back gate is on Barham over there on the way down the hill towards Warner Brothers. And on the back gate, when you leave, there's a sign on the gate and you have to wait for it to slowly open. And it said, smile, it's showtime.
Jason Bateman
Oh, so dark.
Sean Hayes
And there'd be day, and it's like February and it's raining all day. And you're like, going back for a crappy pilot and you're just feeling like, my life is worthless. I'm 31. Nothing is happening.
Jason Bateman
Smile, it's showtime.
Sean Hayes
Fuck me, man.
Olivia Wilde
Well, I had given myself a limit because I had taken a. I deferred from college. And I was like, I'm giving myself a year or like nine months, and if I don't book anything in that time, I'll go. I think that's good. I think giving yourself a little bit of a deadlock.
Will Arnett
What was the thing that you would have gone back and studied in college?
Olivia Wilde
I mean, the acting. I mean, it would have. I think I would have studied. I really probably would have become a writer like everyone else in my family, or I would have tried. But now if I went back, which I like to fantasize about, I think it would be, like, complete. I think I want to study neuroscience. I'd like to go and do it. Wouldn't that be cool? There'd be a bunch of math I'd have to catch up on though, which is.
Will Arnett
I've got a couple of friends that are doctors, and I just. They walk on water to me.
Olivia Wilde
Yes.
Will Arnett
I just, like. That's really.
Olivia Wilde
I know.
Will Arnett
Like, you certainly aren't born with any sort of natural talent to cut people's brains open and fix it. Right. Like, you could be born with talent to throw a football a hundred yards or whatever, but you don't come out with it. So it's all learned. You have to learn so much, and you don't learn it until you read it or it's explained to you.
Sean Hayes
Or Jason, he respects discipline.
Olivia Wilde
Yes.
Will Arnett
And. And. And self education. Yeah. I think it's incredible.
Olivia Wilde
I wonder if they are born, though, with something maybe you are born with.
Jason Bateman
Well, you just have. You have to. An affinity. Yeah.
Narrator/Announcer
Or.
Jason Bateman
Or learn or.
Sean Hayes
That's why I'd get into neuroscience. Because I'd want to get in there and see if they are born with it. Like, you know what I mean?
Narrator/Announcer
Yeah.
Jason Bateman
Get in, cut them open and look.
Sean Hayes
That's how we'd learn if they are born with it. Yeah. Yeah, you dummy. That's why I'm doing it.
Olivia Wilde
Yes.
Sean Hayes
You think Dr. Gary walks on water, by the way?
Will Arnett
I do. He's an emergency room physician.
Sean Hayes
He's got an emergency. I respect his golf game because he's so straight and he's always in the fairway.
Jason Bateman
But what about. I have a friend that was like, I. He. He's like, I don't trust doctors. I don't believe in them. I think, you know, statins, like, just. He goes on and on about, like, what's.
Will Arnett
You're talking about. RFK junior.
Jason Bateman
Yeah.
Will Arnett
Your top dog.
Jason Bateman
Yeah. I'm having dinner with him tonight. No, no, but. Top dog. No, but, like, what do you think about these people who don't ever. Who constantly put doctors down? I'm with you. I'm like, I've taken the two choices about someone who, you know, stuff you read online or like, self help, whatever, and somebody who studied it day in and day out. I'm gonna go with the guy who studied it.
Will Arnett
Yeah. Just assuming that those doctors must be wrong. Like, wait, what?
Sean Hayes
Also that there's a bigger conspiracy at play here that they're looking to take the. What is it? Take the.
Will Arnett
They've all organized and figured out how to trick us all.
Sean Hayes
Sean trust doctors too much. I mean, I would say that maybe
Will Arnett
he's got a punch card at Cedars. No, he's. They call him Paddles when he comes in. He's got afib and he's always getting it fired up.
Olivia Wilde
I mean, I. I had to play a doctor to be anywhere near it.
Jason Bateman
House.
Will Arnett
Let's talk about House.
Olivia Wilde
That wasn't me trying to like, segue
Will Arnett
into wild in that we appreciate the help.
Olivia Wilde
No.
Sean Hayes
And for our Canadian listeners, it's the show known as House.
Olivia Wilde
House, Created by Canadians.
Will Arnett
Wasn't that next door to us over there at. On the Fox lot for development?
Jason Bateman
I thought you meant Canada.
Olivia Wilde
Oh, man, I wish I was on your show.
Will Arnett
I wish we were all back on the 20th lot.
Olivia Wilde
Wasn't that great? Just going to Apple Pan every day for lunch. Apple Pan's in my life.
Will Arnett
Is that still there? Oh, yeah, I think it is there. I think Irving Azoff.
Jason Bateman
Yeah, I go there after therapy.
Will Arnett
Didn't Irving Azoff buy Apple Pan?
Olivia Wilde
That's right.
Will Arnett
Who am I thinking of? Nate now, you're correct, Sean.
Sean Hayes
You go there after therapy. So, like, once all the feelings come up, you go to stuff em back down.
Paris Hilton
Yes.
Olivia Wilde
With the tuna melt and the milkshake.
Jason Bateman
Yeah, it sounds so good.
Sean Hayes
Fries.
Will Arnett
All right, so now. So we're back. We go back in the time machine. What is Olivia Coburn watching when she's a wee lass that's inspiring her to become an actor?
Olivia Wilde
Okay, this is the thing. I think about this a lot now. My family, we watched a lot of comedy together. And it is my greatest memory from childhood is the sound of my parents laughing and all of us laughing. And my mom has a really funny thing. She still cries when she laughs. And it's just adorable. And she would always be, like, wiping away tears and my dad laughing so hard. All of us. And when I think about it, it was a lot of comedy that I wouldn't have been absorbing the real meaning of. I mean, a lot of. Yeah, and we watched a lot of comedy that was probably a little too adult. And then a lot of. We watched Wayne's World a thousand times. For some reason, Wayne's World was a huge movie in our family. But a lot of snl and it was a real joy to just sit and watch all the Monty Python together a lot. It was the best. And I think for me, watching comedy, even watching, like, for me, I Love Lucy, I watch a lot of old comedy television shows.
Jason Bateman
We do too. I do too. I watch Cheers a lot.
Olivia Wilde
Cheers. The best.
Sean Hayes
I love Cheers. God, I love Cheers.
Olivia Wilde
And so I think about, like, oh, of course that's where I find myself now, wanting to make comedies. Because it's just. I think it is probably the happiest memories from childhood. I think I'm trying to recreate that feeling.
Sean Hayes
But did you go like, oh, I'm gonna go and do this and I wanna be in comedy. Like, was that like a thing?
Olivia Wilde
Yes.
Sean Hayes
Yes.
Olivia Wilde
Yeah, I think probably. Cause it was. I probably at the Earl saw how happy it was making my parents, like, I think. And then I would. I was the ham of the family, and so I would make them laugh and then I would. I was the hamon of the family and I would go and like, just entertain everyone. And they always had parties. My family. My parents are very social and very good hosts. And so they had these amazing parties all the time. And it was my joy in life to go and like, perform as the little kid. So. But I really think it was from watching all these great movies together. And I think about it. Cause I'm like, am I showing my kids enough like great films. I hope so.
Sean Hayes
Jason, you're good about it with Franny. You've been so good about it.
Will Arnett
I put them in front of the TV before they could even speak. Cause that was my upbringing. I mean that because you were playing golf, you're busy. But you know, they gotta learn somehow, you know, colors and.
Sean Hayes
No, but you've talked to the last couple years. Like you and Franny talk about film and you, you sort of put a lot of good stuff in front of her. Like that's been important to you?
Will Arnett
Yeah, yeah, yeah, really important to me. It's because that's what I had with my dad. It was great subject matter and, and, and shared references and. Yeah, I just, I, I love it. Yeah, you don't want to expose your, your, your four year old to the wire, but you know, it's just like common sense. I, I'm not afraid of screens.
Olivia Wilde
And when they get it, it's so great. But sometimes they'll be like, they'll come back from their dad's house and be like, we had to watch 12 Angry Jace. I don't know if that's.
Will Arnett
Well, Suds, you know, Suds loves the 12 Angry Men.
Jason Bateman
Oh my God. What are your kids, what are your go to? What are the repeats? Like they will watch the same one movie over and over.
Olivia Wilde
Well, I miss when they were really into musical theater. I mean, Otis used to be obsessed with Singing in the Rain and it was so sweet. He would watch it over and over and over again and you know, Mary Poppins and all that stuff. And now. Oh, now it's more. Actually the thing that I love that he's into is Godzilla. The original.
Jason Bateman
The old Godzillas with like the claymation.
Olivia Wilde
Yeah, yeah, like Mothra. Have you seen that? The 1960s Godzillas are so cool and beautiful. And he and I went to Japan a couple weeks ago on like a little mom son trip. We went for a weekend.
Will Arnett
I'm so jealous.
Olivia Wilde
And it was the best. It was, it was just the greatest trip I've ever taken with another person alone. Like it was. We laughed constantly and it was, it came from our shared Godzilla obsession.
Sean Hayes
Can I just say as an aside, have you guys been to Japan before?
Paris Hilton
Shana?
Jason Bateman
No, I want to go.
Will Arnett
I've been a couple times as a kid and I have actually promised that exact trip Olivia just took to, to both girls individually just for a time. And I have not, I have not done it yet.
Sean Hayes
You gotta go with Abel. The same thing. Japan is the greatest place I Couldn't love Japan anymore. It's amazing. It's amazing.
Olivia Wilde
And it's great for kids. It's so clean. Like, Otis couldn't get over the fact that there's no trash on the street and there's no trash cans. So it's not because, like, oh, they have so many trash cans. It's that they just respect the city enough to not litter. Everything about it is interesting and beautiful. And we had the best time. We got on the Bullet Train. And I bet you love it, Bateman, because. Because it's very efficient. Everything about it. Like, the train leaves, like, literally, like, to the second at the time that it says. It's like, the opposite of Italy, even. And I love Italy, too, but it's
Jason Bateman
like, we wait for a train.
Olivia Wilde
Yeah, it is. And Otis is like, that the train will leave eventually.
Sean Hayes
Make a big deal.
Will Arnett
Have a nice coffee once a day.
Olivia Wilde
It's predictable. And I think kids really, like. They like the idea that, like, it's gonna happen when they say it's gonna happen. And there's just. So. They're just the coolest.
Jason Bateman
Well, I saw this thing about Japan where if a kid. I may have gotten this wrong. If a kid is wearing yellow, then that kid is by himself and everybody watches out for that kid.
Will Arnett
Come on.
Jason Bateman
You know, like, the kid isn't. Doesn't have a. Unchaperoned? Unseasoned.
Sean Hayes
Yeah.
Jason Bateman
Unchaperoned. Yeah.
Olivia Wilde
Wow.
Will Arnett
An orphan, perhaps. Maybe that's an orphan uniform, right?
Jason Bateman
Just walking around, looking for a home.
Will Arnett
This one's free. Just grab. You want.
Jason Bateman
No, I don't think so.
Sean Hayes
So.
Will Arnett
Come on, Sean.
Sean Hayes
Jesus.
Jason Bateman
Yeah, no, but I think. I think I saw that. I don't know if that's true, but.
Olivia Wilde
Yeah, I don't know about.
Will Arnett
Probably not.
Sean Hayes
Oh, hang on, Olivia. This is a segment we like to call. I Think I Saw that. It's just. It's really a lot of conjecture.
Will Arnett
And it's next to the other. The other segment called Scrub My Search History by Sean Hay.
Jason Bateman
Wait, we have to introduce.
Sean Hayes
I should have dreamt this.
Will Arnett
All right, so here we are.
Sean Hayes
What was the thing? What was the thing? What was the job? What was the thing that turned it all? Because you're auditioning, you're doing stuff. What was the thing? What was the first boom?
Olivia Wilde
I guess probably the O.C. the O.C.
Jason Bateman
oh, that's right.
Olivia Wilde
I was a bisexual bartender, Alex Kelly. And it was a big show, Bigger than I knew it was when I agreed to do it. And it was wild.
Will Arnett
You know, it's not it's, it's, it's being, it's being rewatched.
Olivia Wilde
Oh, I know. Because these young folks now, they come up to me and I'm like, what do you mean? It's such a deep cut. But they will say like, I love, love you on the show. And I'm like, what show? And it's the OC And I can't believe it. I mean, for them it's like Nick at night now, right?
Will Arnett
It's like, I wonder why they landed on that. As opposed to let's say 90210 or Melrose Place or it's close enough.
Olivia Wilde
And also they're obsessed with early aughts, everything fashion now too. So like it's, it is from that era that is now weirdly coming back. And so they're into that look and the music, it's, it's, it's relevant.
Sean Hayes
Sean, you're about to be in style again.
Jason Bateman
Oh yeah, it's coming.
Will Arnett
I mean, this is the payoff.
Olivia Wilde
Yeah. You're like low rise jeans and your little crop tops. Yeah, it's coming.
Will Arnett
The thing in the mirror behind you coming up. It's closer than it looks.
Jason Bateman
Yeah.
Will Arnett
We'll be right back.
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Will Arnett
All right, and then there was. Then there was Girl Next Door. There was Alpha Dog, and to Cowboys and Aliens.
Jason Bateman
I love that change up.
Olivia Wilde
When are we getting to the change up?
Will Arnett
I mean, were there more people that saw Cowboys and Aliens or Change Up?
Olivia Wilde
Oh, that's hard. It might have been the same five people. Our family.
Sean Hayes
Let's talk about the change up. Let's talk about it.
Will Arnett
Your favorite memory of a change up.
Olivia Wilde
My favorite memory is obviously sitting on your lap topless with pasties.
Sean Hayes
With pasties. No, I mean from shooting. I mean from the movie.
Olivia Wilde
Oh, okay. That was also fun. That was a good time as well. We really had the best time. I loved making that movie.
Will Arnett
Right?
Olivia Wilde
It was a blast.
Will Arnett
Ryan's the coolest. David Dobkin was so freaking awesome.
Sean Hayes
Oh, Dobkin.
Will Arnett
It was really fun down there in Atlanta. I loved it.
Jason Bateman
Remember when I stopped by on the
Sean Hayes
mall at the same time? Yeah, Sean, you were making Three Stooges at the same time.
Will Arnett
Yes, you were.
Jason Bateman
And I walked to the mall to go see Green Lantern. And there's Jason and Ryan filming Change up in the middle of the. The mall. Oh, wow. And I walked right into the middle of the scene. I was like, hey, guys.
Olivia Wilde
Oh, they should have kept that movie.
Will Arnett
Would have been better with the curly wig on.
Jason Bateman
Yeah, totally. At the fountain. I think it was the fountain right in the middle of the mall.
Olivia Wilde
Oh, right, the fountain. You guys were so good. You were so funny to me.
Sean Hayes
You got a bogey over by the fountain. Totally.
Jason Bateman
I was shuffled along very quickly.
Will Arnett
And then we do Drinking Buddies. Joe Swanberg. That was completely improvised.
Olivia Wilde
Yeah, that's like the true Swanbergian way, which is kind of that mumblecore, which. I think they hate that word, mumblecore seems very. I don't know. It was. You get. There's no script. There's a sort of outline, and then you just improvise.
Jason Bateman
And what is this for?
Olivia Wilde
Oh, this was a movie called Drinking Buddies.
Jason Bateman
Oh, Drinking Buddies.
Will Arnett
Isn't that similar to what they do on Curb youb Enthusiasm? Shauna, you've done that.
Jason Bateman
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the outline.
Will Arnett
You go, so there's no written script.
Narrator/Announcer
No.
Jason Bateman
0. You just gotta hit the beats. And then you start improvising. It's super fun.
Olivia Wilde
It's so great. And it was the first time I kind of took myself seriously as potentially being able to write something or maybe direct something one day, because we were really in control of the story, and it was a collective effort. And that shopping was so fun. It makes it very real. And it was. We kept learning from what happened and then letting that affect the next scene. So it was like, oh, now this would happen to these people. It was.
Will Arnett
So she shot it in order.
Olivia Wilde
We shot it mostly in order. And that led to then the movie that I just directed, this movie, the Invite that I did completely in order. And it was all really started in Drinking Buddies days when I was like, this is so fun. And it was a dream. I loved making that movie in Chicago, drinking beer.
Jason Bateman
I loved it. So that was. My next question is, so did Drinking Buddies inspire you to want to direct?
Olivia Wilde
Yeah.
Jason Bateman
Is that the experience?
Olivia Wilde
I wanted to before, but that was the first time that I was like, wait, I think I might know how to put a scene together. Because I was given the chance to sort of be a part of that process. And it was. I was like, this is the most fun.
Narrator/Announcer
I want that.
Jason Bateman
And now, having done both, obviously scripted and this version where it's improv through an outline, do you prefer one or the other or.
Olivia Wilde
I think there's a. What I prefer is what I ended up getting to do on this movie, which was we workshopped the script together as cast and writers, and then we were able to shoot in order. Yeah, it was like a play. And it was a very well thought out script, ultimately, but we had kind of worked it together, and not in a full, like, Mike Lee way where we spend, like, a year improvising on a cliffside or something. It's not that, but it was very. It was very organic because we had Come. We had really massaged it together, and then once we got on set, we knew exactly what we were doing. I like that.
Will Arnett
Well, so tell the audience a little bit more about that one. This is called the Invite, and it's inspired by or based on.
Olivia Wilde
It's based on a Spanish film.
Will Arnett
Okay, so, yeah, so tell me, how did it kind of get started? Who watched the film first? Who called the other person and say, you know, let's do it this way?
Olivia Wilde
Okay, so Rashida Jones and Will McCormick Love wrote. We Love wrote the English language adaptation of a Spanish film that was called the People Upstairs. And it was a small Spanish film that was based on a play that you can sort of see the origins of it as a play because it's four people in one apartment. And that's the whole. The whole thing takes with four people in one apartment over one night. And the idea is that it's a kind of a dinner party gone wrong. It's about a husband and wife. In our version, it's myself and Seth Rogen who have been kind of plagued by the sounds of our neighbors upstairs having very loud sex. And it's been driving Seth's character kind of insane. And unbeknownst to him, I've invited these people over for dinner, and he's furious because he doesn't want to have dinner with anyone. He's tired from work. But he says, fine, if you've ambushed me with this, I'm going to bring the noise from upstairs. And I'm like, over my dead body you'll bring up that noise. You will not. Please just try to be normal and have a normal night so we can have friends. And so the whole night, he's kind of threatening to bring up this thing. And they are endlessly kind of sexy and enigmatic, and they end up really blowing our minds and changing our marriage in one night. And the other couple is Penelope Cruz and Edward Norton.
Sean Hayes
What a cast. Yeah, what a great, unbelievable cast. It's insane.
Olivia Wilde
And so Rashid and Will wrote the English version, and I got that script, and I was like, this is hilarious. And it was clearly an opportunity to make something in this way that I had been obsessing over since drinking Buddy. So I was like, okay, we can shoot this in order, and we can really personalize this script together and workshop it and make it really specific to these actors. And we can shoot it on 35 millimeter, and we can make it really fun. And I'm obsessed with Mike Nichols, so I was like, this could be our Virginia Woolf. And it was the best experience of my life. So I love that. And Will, I love working with you guys. This one was great.
Will Arnett
But then. So you take this great script from Rasheeda and Will, but then the four of you get together, the cast, and do you guys start to take an even. Plus the script because of the specificity of each actor?
Olivia Wilde
Yes. And we really, the six of us, sat for two weeks. This was the thing. I was like, can we stop giving away rehearsal time immediately? When we make movies, like, it's the first thing we give up.
Sean Hayes
We were just talking about this recently.
Olivia Wilde
Impossible to convince people, really. Agents. Agents are the ones who are like, no, he's not available until the minute you start rolling the camera. And it's like, why? Why can't we consider it part of the job? Can you imagine doing that for theater if it was like, no, I'll be there for previews?
Will Arnett
Then what they do is then they prorate their salary. They say, well, so an extra two weeks of work at this number.
Sean Hayes
Jason's also an agent. I don't know if you knew that. So handsome.
Olivia Wilde
Yeah, be my agent. But it really was so fun because the six of us sat at this table and we tore through the script and Rashida and Will were so game to kind of let it evolve to what these actors were thinking.
Sean Hayes
That's fun.
Olivia Wilde
And it was so fun. And it was like, imagine. I mean, Seth and Edward and Penelope are all real filmmakers on their own. I mean, they're directors, they're writers. And so the opportunity to kind of get all of their good ideas and put them in there. And Edward. Edward is on another. First of all, Edward's maybe one of my favorite smartless guests. Maybe that episode is the greatest.
Will Arnett
I love him so much. Really good boy.
Sean Hayes
He's so smart.
Olivia Wilde
He's so funny.
Sean Hayes
Yeah, and he's so funny.
Olivia Wilde
And people don't even. People do know it, but I'm obsessed with him. And he ended up improvising like an entire monologue in the third act of this movie that is so beautiful. And it really just. It was his gift to us to just kind of like. He said to me, I'm gonna. I have a story I wanna tell in the scene. I kind of don't wanna tell you what it is. And I was like, okay, yeah. How long? Like, roughly? Just because we're rolling film and I was paying for the film and I was like, just like, how was it
Will Arnett
longer than a full mag?
Olivia Wilde
I put a thousand foot mag on the camera and I was like, go. And he used it and it was really great. But it was. Penelope Cruz came up with the funniest set piece in the movie. And it was all with the workshopping with Rashida and Will. Who would, man, just run with the punches of roll or run. Do you roll or you roll with them?
Will Arnett
They rolled and ran and ran with the ball.
Olivia Wilde
They ran with the ball. It was the best. And then I wasn't supposed to be in the movie, but the actors bullied me into playing that part, which was very sweet of them.
Will Arnett
Well, now, how do you find that? Do you find it efficient to direct yourself or do you find it distracting?
Olivia Wilde
I think in this case it was efficient because it was so intimate. It was almost like having one less body on set was actually really helpful. And I think that it allowed me to see things they were all doing. These geniuses were doing so many little things that I could see things the camera couldn't see. And so I'd be like, oh, okay, now we need to come around because Seth is doing something that I actually need us to get. And. And so in that way, it was good. I feel like it could be very difficult in a different situation. I also was playing someone who was, like, riddled with anxiety, which helped because I could just kind of be me.
Will Arnett
Were they comfortable with you directing them inside a take, or did you have to wait until you yelled cut before you gave them notes?
Olivia Wilde
I wasn't. I didn't do a like. Okay, give me a little more. Give me a little like, in this. It's still rolling. I want more. Go deeper. I didn't do that at all.
Will Arnett
Directing him in character.
Olivia Wilde
Yeah, yeah. No, I really believe in letting people kind of play and try things and then knowing that what I really can do as a director is later on prune and adjust things in the edit. So I just think it was like encouraging them to keep experimenting. And with Seth, I would have to tell him he could be meaner to me because our characters, it's a very contentious relationship and there's a lot of arguing and he's a very, very non confrontational person. So the most direction I gave Seth was like, you can fucking scream at me. Like I can take it. And angry Seth is a thing to behold because he's got it in him, it turns out.
Sean Hayes
How many days was it then?
Olivia Wilde
It must have been 23.
Sean Hayes
Amazing.
Olivia Wilde
Yeah. So fast. And like, just the best. I mean, we were on this little soundstage, Sunset, Las Palmas. It's the pink one, if you remember the opening of the Player when he drives in, it's that. And it's iconic. It's great and tiny. And we were all. We built the set on stage and we just, you know, banged it out. And then a year later went to Sundance. It was so fun.
Will Arnett
Did we get in the weeds for one second? Did you have multiple cameras?
Olivia Wilde
Oh, we had one camera. No. And then towards the last week, we brought in a second camera because we wanted to. To just be able to. There were some scenes that they benefited from two cameras, but I didn't want to. I felt like I had been inspired by, like, Tarantino saying, like, don't be a hack. Have one camera. Pick your perspective. Anytime you have two cameras, one shot is suffering. And I was like, oh, that's cool.
Will Arnett
Well, but you've got these four people talking all the time, and so you've got to do it four times at least, so that every. Everyone gets a camera pointed at them.
Olivia Wilde
Yes. You know, we did a lot of, like, shared frame. That's why it is very theatrical in that way that, like, there's a lot of times we're sharing the frame, which is why we had the best focus puller in the world who could somehow predict when someone was going to improvise a joke.
Sean Hayes
And it's also better, I think, for comedy because there's nothing worse than cutting back between, you know, from singles in comedy. Love seeing people inhabiting the same frame in a comedy.
Olivia Wilde
It's so thrilling because you're like, they really did.
Sean Hayes
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's so much better. So if you take a left on Las Palmas, like, how. Like street parking, obviously. Again, Jason, I know that you wanted it.
Will Arnett
Where'd the trucks go?
Jason Bateman
Also editing. Editing comedy, too. I just find I always think, you know, I gave you, or whoever it is, they gave you the comedy timing while you were filming it. And then the editor cuts, plays with it. It's like, no, we gave you the timing when we were filming. Filming it. Yeah, that's what it is.
Olivia Wilde
Exactly.
Will Arnett
Maintain.
Olivia Wilde
Yeah, yeah. God.
Will Arnett
That's why wonders are so good, because.
Olivia Wilde
Exactly.
Will Arnett
Fully intact. But you had. You had so much technique and know how and execution right out of the gate with Booksmart was like, just like a stunning accomplishment.
Sean Hayes
That must have felt so good. The movie's so good.
Jason Bateman
That was your first movie you directed.
Olivia Wilde
Yeah, yeah, that was my first.
Sean Hayes
It's insane.
Olivia Wilde
I think that it really was because my proxy film school. Cause I didn't go to college, didn't go to film school, and I was always insecure about that lack of education. And I think that being on so many sets as an actor, I just paid attention to everything and I just tried to absorb it. But, yeah, I think Booksmart, I think often your first movie is the one you've been building up for your entire life and you. You put all of your ideas into it, and you have so much to give, and you're lucky if it resonates with people. And I got so lucky because it happened to hit a place in a lot of people's kind of shared trauma of adolescence. That's the thing I love about high school movies,
Will Arnett
but just the making of it, Olivia, and the stuff that you wouldn't have been around to observe and to sort of cherry pick from these great directors, all this post incredibleness in that film, the. The editing style, the choice, the choice in the use of music and stuff, like, that's all shit that you. People usually need, like a handful of movies under their belt before they really kind of. I don't know, I just was so born with it.
Sean Hayes
Again, the science of it is you're born with it. You're born with it.
Paris Hilton
Yeah.
Will Arnett
We're gonna cut you open and take a look.
Jason Bateman
You're born.
Olivia Wilde
Get in there. Yeah, I love it. I'm a much better director than actor, but I love acting, too. But directing guys, tell me, am I wrong?
Narrator/Announcer
No.
Sean Hayes
I know you paused after you said that.
Olivia Wilde
Just leave room.
Jason Bateman
So, Olivia, what's going on when you're not working? Pickleball or what?
Olivia Wilde
Oh, no. Should I learn it?
Will Arnett
Fuck no.
Olivia Wilde
I was in Central park the other day and they were playing it and someone was playing like, Jimi Hendrix on the stereo and everybody was playing pickleball. And I was like, what a beautiful hobby that I don't do. But I like to watch.
Jason Bateman
Yeah.
Will Arnett
I don't know. What is the hobby? Someone would be surprised to learn that you've got. It's just us. No one's listening.
Narrator/Announcer
It's just.
Will Arnett
No.
Olivia Wilde
Between us gals.
Sean Hayes
Yeah. Or the pastime or like the guilty TV or the thing. Do you have a thing that you do? You're like, oh, my God, I can't believe I'm wasting my time doing this.
Olivia Wilde
I don't really.
Jason Bateman
I don't.
Olivia Wilde
I. I mean, hobbies. Yeah. I mean, I feel like I'm. I really recently. It's like I'm working or I'm mothering.
Paris Hilton
Yeah.
Will Arnett
It's the dumbest thing that you do because, like, you know, the directing is like. You can't stop thinking because you. There's never. You've never have it all figured out. So, like, what do you do that. That requires zero thinking? Do you ever just stare at the television and, oh, my God, yeah. Talk to you?
Jason Bateman
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Will Arnett
Will you get wrapped up in crap?
Jason Bateman
Yeah.
Olivia Wilde
Oh, yeah.
Jason Bateman
I just watched Love is Blind. Love is blind.
Will Arnett
I did four hours of Below Deck yesterday.
Jason Bateman
You did?
Will Arnett
I did four full hours of Below Deck yesterday.
Sean Hayes
I did that 90 Day Fiance. Before the 90 days. I've done a bunch of episodes.
Olivia Wilde
Wow.
Jason Bateman
Olivia.
Will Arnett
What?
Jason Bateman
What? Any reality at all.
Olivia Wilde
I mean, I love Love on the Spectrum that. That makes me cry. And I love it so much.
Jason Bateman
Incredible.
Olivia Wilde
And, no, I mean, I love a housewife, but I. I think that for
Will Arnett
me, it's like, oh, any city on Housewives.
Olivia Wilde
I mean, I like Beverly Hills, but any city will do it for me. Yeah. But I think that, like, I just watched all of Love Story, and I got really into. That's the Ryan Murphy. That's the Carolyn Sarah.
Jason Bateman
Right, right, right.
Olivia Wilde
Got really into that. And it's not quite reality tv, but you still feel like a little. There's something a little guilty pleasure about it.
Sean Hayes
I haven't watched that, but the only bummer about that love story, to me is that it's made.
Olivia Wilde
They die in the end.
Sean Hayes
No, it's made Odion really busy again in Tribeca.
Olivia Wilde
Oh, my God. That's.
Sean Hayes
All these people are coming. What the fuck?
Olivia Wilde
Get out of here.
Jason Bateman
Oh, that's the restaurant we ate at.
Sean Hayes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Will Arnett
Before we let you go, because we're coming up on the end here.
Olivia Wilde
No, fast.
Sean Hayes
This is crazy.
Will Arnett
I know. Holy shit. Talk to us about another new thing coming up called I. I want your sex.
Olivia Wilde
I do. I want your sex.
Will Arnett
Right?
Jason Bateman
All right.
Olivia Wilde
That is. I want it. That is Greg Araki, who is a very cool filmmaker, who is a real LA filmmaker. He is. Or an auteur and wild. I mean, very, very much an individual. And I play a dominatrix. And of course. And I.
Will Arnett
Who are you dominating? You're dominating. Sweet Cooper Hoffman. You know, he doesn't deserve to get whipped.
Olivia Wilde
He loved it. And it is a very, very campy, fun movie. And it was really cool because when we were at Sundance with the Invite, I Want yout Sex premiered on Friday, and the invite was Saturday. And I just felt so lucky to be able to, like, be a part of this fun business where we get to tell all these crazy stories. And they both got bought magically. And so. And they're coming out right after each other, and no way. It's so fun. Yeah, it's like invite.
Will Arnett
So. Yeah. So I Want yout Sex comes out July 23, which is in about 10 days from this air date here.
Olivia Wilde
And the invite is out.
Will Arnett
Invite's already out. Yeah, it came out June 26th, so.
Jason Bateman
June 26th, my birthday. Came out on my birthday, guys.
Olivia Wilde
Now you have plans that.
Jason Bateman
No, we have.
Olivia Wilde
I mean, you did.
Jason Bateman
We saw it. Yeah. On my birthday. That was my birthday, kid.
Olivia Wilde
And you had the best time. And everyone loved. I love the invite.
Jason Bateman
Yes.
Olivia Wilde
I loved it. Oh, I'm glad you loved it. Your favorite film.
Will Arnett
Come on.
Sean Hayes
Of all three, you liked the beginning and you loved the middle, but you really. It was the end that got you.
Jason Bateman
Yeah. Yeah.
Olivia Wilde
Really shed a tear.
Jason Bateman
Yeah. I walked out, not dry.
Will Arnett
And then we're gonna all look forward to the Behemoth with sweet, sweet Willie Arnett coming out sometime next year, right?
Sean Hayes
Yeah.
Olivia Wilde
At some point.
Will Arnett
Meanwhile, you're probably hard at work. Work. Getting ready to direct your next incredible movie. We're all waiting for it. Keep jamming.
Olivia Wilde
Please be in it.
Will Arnett
You're the best.
Sean Hayes
Can you. Can you just give us a hint of what you're working on or area or.
Olivia Wilde
No, it's a comedy. It's a. It's a Christmas comedy.
Jason Bateman
I'm in. I'm already in.
Sean Hayes
I love a Christmas comedy.
Will Arnett
You should see Sean playing elf. He did it with Kenny Rogers.
Sean Hayes
He was on the road with Kenny Rogers.
Olivia Wilde
Please come be.
Jason Bateman
I'll send my self tape over with real good lighting. I'll actually put myself in a winter wonderland just so you really get.
Olivia Wilde
Olivia, please. Great.
Sean Hayes
What was your line, Santa? I don't know when to hold them or when to fold them.
Jason Bateman
Fold them.
Sean Hayes
What was your line?
Jason Bateman
That's what it was. That's what it was.
Will Arnett
We love you, Olivia. Thank you for doing this.
Olivia Wilde
Thank you for having me. What a dream.
Jason Bateman
And congrats on everything.
Sean Hayes
Yeah, super, super congrats.
Olivia Wilde
Thank you.
Will Arnett
Keep going, girl.
Jason Bateman
Thanks. Bye.
Olivia Wilde
Bye, guys.
Will Arnett
See you soon. Bye. Bye.
Jason Bateman
Bye, man.
Sean Hayes
Wow.
Will Arnett
That's the incredibly charming Olivia Wild. Love her talent match.
Jason Bateman
You can tell she's funny, you know?
Sean Hayes
She's super funny. Super funny. So smart. So, so smart and. And so cool.
Will Arnett
I'm just so excited that she's directing and that and that. It's. It's like she could like just do it forever, you know, like. Yeah, she's incredible at every gear.
Sean Hayes
She's got every gear. Writer, director, actor, all working.
Jason Bateman
They're all working. Yeah, I know. All the. All.
Sean Hayes
I'd love to have a. A gear would be nice. A gear. She's small, you know, what are you doing?
Paris Hilton
What.
Will Arnett
What are you doing with your life? Well, I don't know, man.
Sean Hayes
I tell you what I am doing on October 17.
Jason Bateman
What do you.
Will Arnett
What's that? Huh?
Sean Hayes
Well, if you go to smart.com live, you'll find out what I'm doing and it has to do with the Hollywood. Just say that. I'll just say that. What's happening with the Hollywood Bowl?
Jason Bateman
What do you.
Sean Hayes
And you know what? I'm going to invite you guys. Join me.
Will Arnett
I'm available.
Sean Hayes
Yeah.
Will Arnett
What are we going to be doing?
Sean Hayes
We're going to do a live Smartless show at the Hollywood Bowl. Smart.com live on October 17th. It's going to be so it's going to be off Hollywood bug. Oh,
Will Arnett
wow. Listen, what we're going to do is we're going to, you know, the New York
Jason Bateman
finally. Jason's got one.
Will Arnett
New York's got the apple. LA's got the orange. And so what we're going to do is since, you know, the Hollywood bowl is such a big part of la, we're going to go ahead and take a out of the orange. We're going to take a big bite. That was the worst ever.
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In this episode of SmartLess, hosts Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, and Will Arnett welcome actress and director Olivia Wilde. The conversation effortlessly bounces from Wilde’s impressive career (both in front of and behind the camera), her early days in Hollywood, stories from set, the evolution of her name, parenting, comedy influences, and her approach to directing. Packed with humor and insight, the episode offers listeners a candid look at Wilde’s journey, creative process, and new projects, all filtered through the irreverent and genuine banter the show is known for.
On growing up with the last name Cockburn:
Olivia Wilde (16:16): “It's a name to grow up with, to build character, you know—it's a boy named Sue.”
On the joys and pitfalls of creating a screen persona:
Olivia Wilde (19:56): “I didn’t think [Wilde] would be interpreted so, like, pornographically. The first ten years of my career, every headline… was just like ‘Get Wild!’”
On directing compassion:
Olivia Wilde (28:25): “Auditioning is a fucking nightmare. These people… it's so vulnerable. And yeah, being on that side definitely made me a little kinder.”
On process and rehearsal:
Olivia Wilde (53:05): “Why can't we consider [rehearsal] part of the job? Can you imagine doing that for theater, if it was like, ‘No, I’ll be there for previews?’”
On directing versus acting:
Olivia Wilde (61:04): “I'm a much better director than actor, but I love acting too. But directing—guys, tell me, am I wrong?”
…you’re passionate about film and TV, curious about the actor-to-director pipeline, want a behind-the-scenes peek at Hollywood improv and casting, or just love honest, funny conversations about creativity, resilience, and taking big swings in life.
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