The 2010 Mega-Movie Re-Draft

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I'm Amanda Daven.

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And this is the Big Picture 8 conversation show about 2010 again. That's right. It's our first ever redraft. So C. Dr. Is here. He's always here. Drafting.

C

We've done this draft before.

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We have done this draft. Just us. Just the three of us.

B

Yes, it was the first one.

A

It was the first ever draft which was conceived, created and executed amidst the COVID 19 pandemic. And the three of us did a very good job. That's a very weird podcast when you go back and listen, because we're like, oh, hey, good choice.

D

Nice job.

A

Terrific job by you.

C

The drafts were where our sense of hostility.

B

No, that was Deacons hall of fame.

C

Oh, okay.

B

But then we were banished to our separate screens for the COVID 19 pandemic and we were kind to each other for like three to four months. And then you drafted Ironman 3 and the gloves came off.

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That's true. Every June, we bring together a sacred quartet of contributors to the draft. This is the third consecutive June I'm really happy. Van Lathan is here. Mallory Rubin is here. Joanna Robinson is here. Rob Mahoney is here. Four of the most elite podcasters that work at the ringer in the office today and 2010. You guys were not a part of 2010. Rob, why don't we start with you, young buck that you are 2010. What was going on? What was cooking for you? Who were you?

E

I was in college.

A

Okay.

E

I was flying a lot of basketball. I was blogging a lot of basketball and I was going to see a lot of these movies at an Austin based movie theater chain that we no longer talk about because we were horns up. I mean, we're always horn Southern.

C

Yeah.

A

Okay, so you were. You were an Alamo attendee on the reg back when.

E

That used to be an okay thing. Back when that was something I was proud of.

A

You were basket blogging in college.

E

Oh yeah. That's how you do it. What was the on your parents dime while they're paying for school? Parlay it into a blogging job.

C

Post graduation mavs.

E

Stuff like general MBA back then. Yeah, just kind of all over the place. I was league. I was a junior in college with league pass. That was a normal thing to do.

B

How much did it cost then?

E

Honestly? A reasonable amount.

B

Okay, so yeah, 70 bucks or something.

E

It was like $70, $80.

F

Yeah.

B

That's good.

A

Affordable. Joanna 2010, what was cooking with you?

G

I was living in San Francisco, looking at the list of movies that we have here today. I think I was deep in my art house cinema only phase. So I had to catch up on some of these big blockbusters. We're here to talk about today. A real franchise year that I was not involved in in 2010.

A

Interesting. And look at how the world turned on you. Turned you into a franchise queen.

G

Yeah.

E

You hate art now.

G

Yeah, I do hate art.

A

Van 2010, unemployed.

D

I had been in Los Angeles. I got to LA in 2006. I worked at this place for a couple of years, couple of three years or something like that. And then it went under and that was it. And so then I got on unemployment. This was during the times of the financial crisis. And we were all just riding out. I too was playing a lot of basketball. Dominant.

E

What's the scout?

A

What were you doing?

D

Everything.

G

Yeah.

A

Inside, outside.

D

Three level score. Like three level score. But legitimately, we were hooping all day

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long against first graders, second graders and third graders.

D

Against whoever wanted it. 75 and up.

E

75 and up.

D

Retirees. I was busting anybody ass that was out there. And then the next year was with the year my career would essentially start. I'd go to TMZ the next year. But at that point, unemployed, seeing all of these movies.

G

It's like a Prequel.

D

the ArcLight. This is the year 2009. 2010 is the year that I fall in love with the Arc Light. Because I start going to a lot of movies at the arclight. Walking gets nice.

A

Six years gone. We are from the arclight.

B

Really painful, inexplicable.

A

And you guys just never got to be a part of that.

G

I saw some things at the. At the Cinerama Dome in my time.

E

I heard tell, you know, I was in a cave. My elders were telling me about it.

A

You know, stories, the legends.

F

Okay, Mel 2010, I was living in New York City. I was editing college football at Sports Illustrated. And I was Seeing movies in the city. You know, you would, like, live in New York. You'd go to your job during the day, then you'd go to a bar or a movie after work.

D

Hell, yeah.

F

It was nice, fun to live in the city for those five years.

B

What movie theaters were you frequenting?

F

The Time and Life Building. You know, midtown Manhattan.

B

So

F

various locations. Either like Lincoln Square, Times Square. Not ideal.

A

I was gonna say Amesquare.

F

Yeah. Convenient. Which certainly. Battery park girl. I moved to Battery Park City later.

C

Yeah.

E

I don't.

C

Battery park girl.

E

Like

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lady of the night.

F

But I lived in Hell's Kitchen at that point, so I was like, walk into work. That was just sort of the general vicin vicinity, but, you know, like a young Matt Murdock.

G

Yeah, Matt Murdock, exactly.

F

Fighting crime at night. Putting on my athleisure and going out to fight crime.

B

I was gonna say Deadpool.

F

I did not have a nice brick loft apartment.

B

Like, it's not close, but I didn't have them there to be like, that's Daredevil, you know.

A

You're going to. Going to the cinema regularly.

F

Yeah. Adam and I were seeing movies at this point, and we were watching a lot of movies at home. And we would go to the movies. Cause we've been together for an eternity. Cause we're fucking ancient.

A

So imagine how I feel. C.R.

C

well, this is hard because I don't want to contradict what I said on the first one.

A

Oh, interesting. We have evidence.

B

You're trying to go for consistency and continuity.

C

I'll just say two truths and a lie. I worked at an advertising agency as a copywriter. I was still smoking.

A

Those, I think are truths.

C

And I saw Tron Legacy in the theaters.

F

I will tell you a large portion of that podcast, which I believe in total is like an hour and 14 minutes. And I'd say 30 of those minutes. Are you shitting on Tron Legacy?

C

Was it really, like, I've grown up. I have a lot more effects, by the way.

G

Can I say, in the interest of, like, Mallory, competitive drafter on Friday, Very chill today. On Friday, we said no prep.

F

Well, I made my spreadsheet, but I didn't rewatch.

B

You listened.

G

You listened to the other episode.

E

Why wouldn't you listen to this?

B

You all listened to.

C

It's like you've revealed your draft.

F

I'm not going to be able to revisit all the films like I typically like to do. Like, it was a. Rob and I were talking about this earlier. It's a great pleasure. In 99 in 2000 to just say, you don't need the excuse to pop on Almost Famous, but if you have one, you're not going to pass on it. If you have an excuse to watch Ripley, you're going to do it this year. It's a little. It was a little challenging to do that, but I couldn't miss the opportunity to listen to the first draft. You ever did the podcast that birthed one of the defining series here at the Ringer. Come on. Also, it was structured completely differently. Like, the drafts were set, the rounds were set.

G

Like you had.

F

It was like round one drama.

C

It was very different.

F

It was very different.

A

That's true.

F

Yeah.

C

And we were all just like, great job, Amanda.

F

Yeah.

B

I don't remember any of it. I don't remember what I picked. I didn't go and look back.

A

I'm happy to recount that.

B

No, no, don't do it now.

C

Let's.

B

I want to do it at the end. Yeah. So make sure it's at the bottom.

A

It's at the bottom.

B

Okay. I won't scroll because I'm curious how much. How much I've changed and how much I've stayed the same.

A

Well, you're always changing.

C

That's actually why we've all gathered.

A

This is an intervention. You've seen it in the intervention seat, actually.

B

It's very hard for me to tell you this, Chris.

A

You and I, we spent a lot of time together. We were really hanging pretty tough back then. Is this.

B

This meeting? 11 is when 2011 is when we meet outside the. Well, I met Zach, my husband, outside of the Lincoln Square. Amc. Speaking of. And then you guys at the Woolie. Is that right?

A

Nope. I thought it was after the Avengers.

B

No, that is. No, that's the first movie that we saw. And that's where I met Andy Greenwald. But I knew you before that.

D

Y' all been fucking with each other. Y' all all have been friends this long.

B

Yeah, but I know.

D

I know you and him.

B

But like, Avengers is 2012.

A

Right, right.

C

I accompanied Zach to a Christmas party that she was at, where he was like, I'm going to meet this girl Amanda.

D

Wow.

B

Yeah. At Botanica. It was the after party of the New York magazine.

C

I was like, good luck with that.

D

Look at everyone.

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Old, deteriorating.

B

So we didn't know each other in 2010.

A

Okay. You think we would have gotten along?

B

I don't know.

A

Why start now?

B

Yeah.

A

In 2010, I was working@emusic.com, which was a digital music retailer. It was an attempted itunes competitor and the Scuttlebutt had Emusic when I was working there as a merchandising manager, which was basically an editorial job. Just basically like writing reviews and putting together exciting collections of potential albums you could spend your money on. Was there's this company coming that is currently operating in Europe called Spotify and we are fucked. That was the vibe when I was working at Emusic because as soon as Spotify comes to America, it's curtains for E Music and everyone who was saying that was 100% right. And here we are in a Spotify owned studio in 2026.

D

Yeah, I'm so cynical listening to you tell the story of the emerging behemoth. Spotify just feels. It feels like you just did a little commercial there for the commercial.

A

Well, you know, I gu. At least we get to be together. When I say 2010 movies, what springs to mind? I mean I picked this year back then when we did it in 2020 just because it was 10 years later. That was the only reason that we started there. We were like we have enough time to look back on this period of film and see what it means. Not because it was a particularly great year though. It did have a couple of favorites from the show and some interesting movies to pull apart. But I don't. What do you think when you look at it, Rob?

E

I think it's big before times energy. I think the easy demarcation point is the Marvel machine is not up and running yet, but also fast. 5 hasn't happened. Jurassic World hasn't happened yet. All the things that are going to take up all the oxygen in the room are just non existent at this point. So there's a lot of stuff I don't know that it's all good.

G

So you're saying it's a great time for little movies like Toy Story 3, Iron Man 2, Twilight songs.

E

But Iron Man 2 is not Harry

G

Potter and the Deathly Hollow.

D

Dude, we were going crazy is there

F

on midnight at midnight.

D

Iron Man 2. We were going.

B

I saw Iron Man.

E

I was there.

G

But it's not the Marvel machine was in effect because what I needed is

B

premium projection shout out. Actually shout out Cobble Hill senwas. I love it forever.

A

Well you chuckled because you feel like we were already in slop town.

G

No, I mean he said the Marvel machine wasn't in effect then Mallory and I just had like a.

F

We just said Boyd like you know Mickey Rourke and Iron Man 2 mentally to each other via telepathic link. Then we laughed into the microphones out loud. We did do that.

G

Um, it's just. Yeah, it's. It's franchise city here in 2010 and actually some of the worst I think, that franchise Cinema has to offer.

C

So we're going to be celebrating that.

B

There's a lot of other movies.

D

It was an odd year.

G

There's a lot of other fantastic movies, but I think the top. I would not say these stand the test of time.

D

It was an odd year also because it was like. It's like kind of transitional time. Like there are new people barking up the tree. Like, I was all about Nolan at this point. I thought Nolan was the greatest fucking guy. Like, did he have a movie this year? Yeah, like, yeah, I was about to say I'm on the wrong year, but, like, I just also remember having hopes for films and then just being dramatically let down by some of the. By some of the. Like, the. Like, watching Tim Burton make an uninteresting movie was like, crazy to me with that many resources and stuff like that.

A

Yeah.

C

Did movie Twitter exist back at this point? Were you on it?

A

I was on Twitter, yeah.

C

Twitter was good back then.

A

Joined Twitter in 2009 and that's when you could frequently send out a tweet that was just like. Just had a burrito. Shit was fire. That was considered. It was like, good job. You know, that retweet.

C

You're good.

E

Thank you.

A

Yeah.

E

Why don't you take it back?

A

Banging that, like, button. You want to go back to that?

E

I want you to take it back.

F

Yeah, that's what he's doing on threads.

A

I'm not really on threads anymore. No, I don't think we can ever go back, unfortunately, because immediately when you do that, it's just like AICR in a Nazi costume, like, saluting a bag of Cheez.

C

Its Nazi cr.

A

Oh, my God.

F

All the replies are AI.

G

Nazi CR is like a real speed skating Hitler from snl, sort of like character.

A

Just think of that.

G

AI and Nazi cr.

A

You in a Nazi costume saluting a bag of cheeses.

C

Am I on the Friedland pod right now?

A

Do you have any big 2010 thoughts movie wise, Amanda?

B

Oh, me, you know, not off the top of my head, and I don't want to spoil my draft prep, but when I was trying to, you know, the essential. What will your first pick be? If you get the first pick, what are you going to do? One movie I remembered as a 2010 movie and then I read the list and I was like, oh, actually, probably I should choose this other one. So it doesn't stand out as like a hallowed year where I was like going to the cinema. 2009 honestly is a lot more memorable. I remember the specific places and the specific theaters where I saw all of these movies. And I think there was just a better mix of non franchise stuff. I mean that's Inglourious Basterds.

F

You're a big Avatar head.

B

Well, I remember I went to see Avatar and of course at the now departed Brooklyn Heights, you know, the Court Street. Was that a Regal?

A

Yeah. I'll never forget where I saw Avatar. AMC Lincoln Square.

B

Yeah.

A

IMAX screen. And I.

F

Your life was changed forever.

A

It was just like one of the greatest movie theater experience ever. I loved it.

F

You grabbed it. I've never seen it cannot be me.

C

I definitely didn't see it in a theater. It's not like 20 minutes of a plane.

G

Yeah, that sounds right.

A

I think that's actually useful to this conversation because, you know, Avatar made a shitload of money in 2010.

F

Yeah.

A

You know, it was like, it was such a carryover.

B

I think. I think I might have seen it like a blizzard hit in January and I was like, okay, I guess I'll go on like a day two. Yeah. Or it was even still in theaters, but. So I guess there's not a defining narrative of 2010, except for the Oscars narrative of they picked the wrong one.

C

Yeah.

A

You've got a couple things kind of winding down.

B

Exactly.

A

A couple things kind of like trying to squeeze out some life. You know, you got Shrek 4 and Toy Story 3.

C

I just remember this period.

A

Harry Potter's near the end more than any movie.

C

I mean, I had one of my favorite moviegoing experiences of my life was going to see Inception with Zack.

B

Oh, yeah.

C

This year.

B

Prospect Parkland.

G

Right.

C

We both walked out, we were like, fuck, what can we do with our minds that we're not doing?

A

I think you're thinking of limitless, number 16.

C

The thing I remember when I went through this list was not only just the movies that came out, but the specificity of how I was receiving films, which was I think almost entirely as a theater going experience. So the streaming services had yet to really ramp up. Yet you could get the red letter Netflix movies, but you had to be an active participant in like getting and sending them back and everything. I think I had like an Ingmar Bergman movie for three years.

G

I was gonna say there are two movies on this list that I definitely had those envelopes for like six months.

A

Did you ever watch them?

G

No.

C

And Then, you know, I just. Home media or physical media was not a reality for me yet. So it was really like my film going experience was all theater, which is kind of an interesting little snapshot until the moment before.

G

Yeah.

A

Any other stray thoughts before we describe our categories and get a draft order?

F

I think the Oscar note that Amanda already made obviously feels like very present in the year, but I am curious to see if in the flow of the draft, in part just because there are so many picks, it's seven drafters and seven rounds. If we'll be in a position where like a lot of the films that were like, you fucked Social Network, how dare you at the time are actually now in a. Like, this movie's actually pretty good.

B

So you're just trying to lay the groundwork for when you have your beloved college.

F

It's always a Colin first pod for me. One of my favorite ringer memories genuinely did this air. I don't even know probably when we were first doing hottest take at Sunset Gower and we did a King's Speech episode and I just remember you looking at me across the table in podcast studio one in the courtyard and saying, you can't say a movie's good just because you want to fuck the lead and nothing is changed. All this time later, you can make

E

a whole career out of it.

B

You can't make a whole career. Here we are, folks.

G

You can make a beloved media figure doing just that.

B

It's still the best Tom Hooper movie I've ever seen.

G

Little the bars in hell, Amanda's first round.

F

There you go.

C

Established soccer movie.

B

He made Damned United.

A

Yeah, Never saw that.

F

Oh, I like that movie better.

B

You haven't seen Les Mis?

A

I haven't seen Les Mis, no.

F

I like Damn United.

A

Still working up to it.

B

It's not good.

C

I feel like I need to get

A

more cinema history under my narration. I've always said that about Arrive at the mountaintop.

G

Pretty shallow when it comes to that.

A

I'm just trying to catch up a little bit.

C

Side conversations.

A

Okay, so let's talk about the categories because they're a little bit unusual. I've been trying to get expand. You're iterating the parameters of categorical strategy and it worked out really well in the Star Wars.

C

We have some exciting things we're testing for the fall, you and I.

A

We do. No spoilers, please.

G

Categorical strategy wise.

A

Okay. The first category to Joanna's point and maybe to Rob's as well, is franchise film. Now, this is a film that is part of a franchise it can be the first film, it can be the last film, but if it's part of a franchise, it's eligible. Next category is original. Now this requires a lot of specificity. This is not based on any pre existing source material, as in this is

G

when Rob got really annoying last time.

A

As in a novel, as in a real life event, as in another film, a television series. This has to be from the mind of the screenwriter.

C

What happens if it's for our listeners? What happens if it is a movie based on a book but is not part of a franchise?

B

Where does it go in another kind of wild card?

A

Not in either Joey Wildcard.

G

What if it takes inspiration?

F

That's what I was gonna ask. How strict are we being about real life rules? Cause like, no, there's no such thing as an original idea. Not really. Everything is influenced Dream Heights by the stimuli all the time. Like if someone's like the house of

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our podcast host would say, wouldn't they?

F

If someone's like, my neighbor whispered to a mailman a tale of their nanny and it planted a seed that 30 years later I realized inspired this text, like, that's. That's still original. Right, but if you're like, these people are real people, that's not eligible. Is that a fair distinction to draw?

A

I think the best way to think about it is if this film can be nominated for Best Original Screenplay, but

F

a lot of the Best Original screenplay nominees wouldn't be eligible by your rule.

B

That's a terrible idea.

F

Because they're not.

B

Because they make that shit up all the time. The time. That's the most loosey goosey category in history. And it's just, I guess that's probably.

F

Wait, like, King's Speech was Best Original Screenplay, but that's a. That's based on a real.

A

Yeah, that's not eligible.

F

So by your rule, like, that's so

A

that minus real events.

F

Oh, boy. Okay.

B

Okay.

F

Who sent you the most questions about the pod heading into.

A

Who do you think sent the most questions? You sent six questions just last night.

G

I at least sent it to the group so that we could address them.

C

Oh, you were side channeling with him. You're like, always.

F

Well, I had as you, as some of you will remember, a very public scarring experience where Sean looked at me in the Star wars drafted and said, maybe if you had asked me, and so I won't be making that mistake again.

C

Is this when you tried to do like the Force was like a different character or something like that?

D

She tried to drive. She tried to say that R2D2 was a. Was a Skywalker.

G

She's only talked about it.

B

And then the.

G

The little.

A

Where did you land on that?

F

Stand by it on what I really

G

like the midichlorian one. That one I would support.

D

I didn't dig either one.

F

You famously hate droids.

G

I scooped you on the droid pick

F

on our Star wars because I was experiencing ptsd.

D

I will say this. She did have. Mal does have a constituency online of people who argue very, very passionately.

A

Those are clear.

D

The R2D2 is a Skywalker. People were very upset about it.

G

They thought they were Probain army as well.

F

The Bane lovers are everywhere. There are dozens of us.

A

The third category is comedy. That requires no further delineation.

G

I don't know what is funny.

B

Yeah, sorry.

A

I'll let you.

D

I'll tell you what. In comedy, I look funny.

G

Ha ha.

D

I'm looking at a lot of movies that I thought were really funny at the time, that I've really aged.

G

What about the ending of Remember Me? Can that count as comedy?

B

Hey, please do not spoil my first round.

A

I think finding something funny doesn't make it a comedy.

G

Unintentional comedy.

B

Okay, have you. Has everyone here seen Remember Me?

E

Only the end.

A

I don't think I've seen it, but I know the end.

B

Oh, wow. I was there. That I saw at Prospect Park Cinema. And did you laugh when she writes September 11, 2001, on the chalkboard? I, like, fell into the aisle. I was like, I cannot believe this is gonna happen. And it had not been spoiled for me by whoever that critic was.

A

What happened on that day?

B

Well, it happened in the reflection of somebody's eyes. Yeah.

A

Okay, the next category is foreign language film or animated.

C

Two of my faves.

F

Okay.

A

Now, CR Asked me this yesterday. Why foreign language film, xenophobe that he is.

C

No, I said, it's such a robust category. It could have been its own international feature this year.

A

You can treat it as such.

C

I am.

A

You can ignore animated.

G

I will.

A

Or, you know, Sean.

F

He definitely will.

A

There's an. There are a few animated foreign language films that are eligible. And I'll say to the voters at large, I think you should be rewarded if you're able to fuse the category.

F

Well, you people, somebody could take three animated films in this draft. Someone could take four, someone take five.

A

That was part of my thinking, was there is an inordinate number of animated movies this year, both at the top of the box office and for.

G

If I select the 2010 film, Frozen

F

will You allow us to pretend it's the end.

G

Not that one.

A

I tell you what, I have some affection for that film Frozen that you're talking about. Maybe it'll come up later. The next category is Oscar nominee, which we often do. The next category is blockbuster. The Threshold here is 125 million domestic.

D

Domestic.

A

Domestic, not 100 million, which is what we usually do around this time. The reason for that is the box office was very healthy in 2010, and there were a lot of movies that crossed the 125 threshold. And then the last category, of course, is Wild Card. So we've got 20 eligible movies in box office. We've got well over 50 in Oscars. Gotta do draft order. Everybody feeling good?

C

Yeah.

A

Any category questions?

D

Hell no.

A

Get into that moment. No fan doesn't give a shit. He doesn't care. Rob, you're ready to steal people's hearts and dreams, I hope.

G

Okay.

A

You're developing quite a reputation around these parts.

B

You have a letterbox list up here and you're already not following US release.

A

I'm sure that that's true.

B

Okay, so. But that's important, right? It's US Release.

E

US non festival release.

A

Us non festival. Yes. US Theatrical release.

D

Theatrical festivals.

G

Van did all the prep for this. Don't worry about it. The thing is, like, Van doesn't do any prep. And then he comes in and he kills.

F

Dominates.

D

Unbelievable.

F

A genius who's also beloved. Deeply annoyed. Tough to compete.

A

Jack Sanders.

E

Let's do it.

A

We need a draft order.

F

I'm scared about the order for this one, so.

E

Well, what do you want?

F

I personally feel that having a top pick is important in this draft.

E

You have the first overall pick.

F

Wow.

B

What just happened?

D

It's like the worst possible outcome. Like legitimately the worst possible outcome.

B

Okay, no, but then I have to

F

wait so long for the second pick. That's.

G

I have.

F

I am prepared to say. I think actually there's a case that the second pick is even better. This. This draft. I'll explain why.

E

Momy selecting second overall is Sean.

B

Oh, good.

F

Well, that's just. What? You don't want to take the movie. That should go second.

E

Third is Amanda Dobbins. But she does fourth is super villain Rob Mahoney.

B

Okay.

A

Wow.

C

Tough.

E

Fifth, Van Lathan.

F

Oh, Amanda and Rob are picking next to each other. That's always fun.

E

Christopher Ryan with Joe last.

G

Damn.

C

Oh, Joe.

F

You're on the turn, though. That's a strong pick.

B

Don't. I had a great time on the. On the turn last year. Okay. Paint Your own picture.

A

Wow. This is historical.

F

Boy, I mean, you. You're in probably the spot you want at least. Is that fair to say? At 2?

C

What?

A

I'm in an incredible spot.

B

All right, somebody pick.

F

Oh, are we starting?

B

Yeah. Why would we not start?

F

I don't know. You guys are hosting. You decide.

A

Mallory, then me, then me, then Amanda, then Rob, then Van, then CR, Then Joe.

E

That's cool.

F

Can we set you over under on how many times Rob will piss Amanda off taking something that she wanted to take? Because that's a fun.

G

Him.

F

Yeah, but then he's in first.

E

She has all the control here.

A

Well, it'll circle back.

C

Yeah, you have the most control.

A

I encourage everyone to make some fireworks today.

C

You know, honestly, I guess you can

F

get pretty weird in this.

G

I would wisely said paint your own picture.

F

Yeah.

B

You know, but also I've done marginal prep, so. I did prep. But, you know, I also have already drafted.

C

Do you feel like this is a

B

no brainer this year?

F

Yes, I do.

G

Okay.

F

I thought that was a clear, clear top pick.

B

All right, what is it now?

F

Let me just say quickly, the reason I thought there was a case that two was better is because I do think original is the hardest category.

D

Okay.

F

And I think there's a clear. For me, it's the category that makes me most anxious. Like, that I'm going to be in the like, sixth round and be like, did I fuck this up right now? Obviously it's a very deep field. It'll be fine. But. And that's also a movie I adore. I think there's just a clear number one, and it's the Social Network. So I will be selecting it first overall. I will do that in. Technically, it's a franchise film. Now I'm going to do that in a su. You know what I am going to do? Do it in franchise film. I'm gonna do it in franchise film.

A

I think that's the correct category.

F

I'm gonna do it in franchise film because it is. It is eligible now, right. As a franchise film. So that's where I'll be taking Social Network first overall. Thanks, guys.

G

Okay.

F

Yeah. I just want to say thank you and I want you to know that I've always thought you were wonderful.

E

I'm already regretting the decision.

A

What would you like to say about the Social Network?

C

There was also no shaking of a.

E

I left the Dungeons and Dragons die at the old place.

H

That's on me.

A

What was the goblet on a piece of paper? Number one, we do have like 20 of those.

E

I'll show you right here.

F

This is what it is.

E

It's like a little goblet. All the people that are hanging chads

A

saltiness already Patreon picture.

F

It's the best movie of the year and it's one of the five best movies of the century so far.

A

It's some would say number one.

F

Yeah.

B

I mean, you know, anyone here in the room with us?

F

Someone.

D

Someone.

F

Some. Other lists might say some.

C

But you take care about other movies though.

B

Yeah. You have a discussion.

C

Except for five first round picks.

B

Except for Social Reckoning, which I don't want to take.

A

4 for 106 for Jalen Brunson. We'll take it. We'll take the phone call.

F

The shirt is fantastic.

G

It's longer than I thought it would

F

obviously by the laptop, but it's a wonderful shirt. Let everyone see that. Beautiful.

A

Thank you.

F

Beautiful shirt. Incredible Fincher movie. It's a great Sorkin script. The performances are iconic. It's a movie in the moment that felt incredible, urgent, perfect reflective of the time. And that has only been truer as we've aged. So it's sensational.

C

What's your.

A

You watched the Social Network trailer?

C

Social recognition, Social Reckoning.

F

I did. I sure did. Booted that up on the 75 inch. What do you think of the screen? I have some concerns, but I will be there. Day one. I will be there. Day one.

B

I will be there. It's allegedly gonna be at the Venice Film Festival. So I'm gonna be seeing it alone, jet lagged in Venice. I don't. I'm gonna.

F

Then I'll drop some takes into the group chat.

B

Yeah, no, then I'll do like a video blog of me dying and then. But of happiness or sadness.

G

Yeah, it feels great.

F

It could be great.

G

It could be great.

D

So you start your alien pod now.

G

Yeah, that's right.

B

Are you gonna go on his alien pod?

D

I thought it was a phenomenal idea.

B

Yeah.

D

Couldn't believe you.

A

I feel like we could do a great job.

B

If you want to lay down. Listen, I thought it was a great idea. So disclosure. Disclosure day happens and we see all

F

of that footage on the local news, which you're definitely watching.

B

They take it national and they don't put the NBC bug on it.

G

Right.

B

They have that conversation. And also, you know, they run it through the AI ch. So everything. That's right.

F

I use ground truth pixels.

D

Every black woman kind of gets everybody into it. Phenomenal.

B

And then they. Okay. And so then they.

G

And then they have the Reception on their phone in the subway.

B

And then they roll the real alien out.

D

I almost lost it.

E

That was where you lost it?

D

I almost lost it at that point. Guys, hold on.

B

In New York, at least we have reception. They have tremendous reception on the subway.

F

I purchased 11. It was less plausible that everyone acted

B

like on the subway my last time I was there.

D

Ok. Shout out to them.

E

I'm done.

B

Okay.

A

In some spirits. Dark spots.

B

So they're broadcasting the tapes. The old alien rolls out.

G

Okay.

B

And then. And then you do what?

D

So I have two choices.

B

Yeah.

D

I either.

B

So we're not drafting $2,000.

D

I have two choices. I either go native or ipod.

A

I was gonna say, okay, you come over to my house.

D

Like, I either got two choices. Either I go native. I do the whole thing. Cause it's gonna be a run on. Everything's going to shit.

A

Highest learning.

D

Either go native or ipod. That's it.

B

But. So you are rededicating your life to your alien stuff.

D

I have to find the truth.

B

Okay, but they've just told you the truth.

D

I got more truth.

B

Okay. All right.

F

If you want aliens to understand our society, which big pick movie draft would you have them listen to?

G

First 99?

A

I probably would just cut out the snatch portion.

G

Yeah.

F

2009.

A

This is. What's more human? This is like we're lagging podcasts I've

D

ever been of in any pot. Yeah.

F

It's a lot trying to think, were any of these movies paired with blowjobs. I'll get back to you. We'll see how the draft goes.

D

Can I say one more thing about.

A

You can say, like, a wine pairing.

D

Can I say one more thing about the Social Network before we move on?

B

Yeah.

D

For anybody else, was the Social Network like, a complete revelation in that you knew nothing about any of that shit? Like, I legitimately. MySpace comes along, everybody's on MySpace. And then all of a sudden, everybody kind of, like, just makes this psychic decision to go to Facebook. Facebook is just better. I'm like, okay, well, shit, we're on Facebook now. We're on Facebook. I know nothing about startups. I know nothing about Peter Thiel. I know nothing about any of that stuff. That movie wasn't just, I'm 30 at this point. Right. But that movie wasn't just, like, a awesome movie. It also, like, was almost like an encyclopedic map to, like, how you get your idea off the ground and, like, what it costs you.

G

Well, it was really funny. As someone who grew up in the Bay Area and it Was like, it felt like a real, like, is this fucking play about us? And then we didn't yet know how much that culture would just take over everything, you know, so it felt like a local sort of exploration of our culture. And then it just became.

D

And it was so early in his career, it wasn't like he was a 50 or 60 year old guy and they were doing a retrospective. The shit had just started. And they just almost like they wanted you to know how this is done because this is about to be such a big part of your life.

A

Yeah, I've said many times on the show, I really love recent history period pieces and they're really hard to do. Well, I mean, it's basically a seven or eight year period of time that has transpired from when Facebook launches to arriving at the release of the movie, which is, you know, to have the perception and the foresight as to, like, what this is going to do to people. And the way that it kind of like instantaneously changed the way that we interact with each other. Even just the face mash thing at the very beginning of the film where you can like, like, oh, wow, we're in the dark time now where like, we think of, we. We think of each other as commodities instead of as people, where we're being told that this is the opposite, this is going to connect us, but what it's obviously gonna do is divide us. And, you know, it sounds like Sorkin is obviously trying to follow that up in a way that maybe we don't need explicated to us in the same way. But I do think it kind of put words and images to a feeling that was starting to rise. And that's why one of the reasons why I think the movie is so effective and still it holds up to

E

this day is that what lasts like 30 years from now is what we remember about the Social network, that it is kind of the defining public account of what happened with this man in this company. Or is it the Eisenberg performance? Is it the score? Like, what is it that lasts?

G

It's a harbinger of something to come.

A

Yeah, yeah.

D

Also let us.

B

And how right it was and how prescient it was even in the moment of not specifically how we use Facebook, but just people's relationship to the Internet and quote unquote, social media, at least our generation. I mean, a common thing on this podcast is that all their young listeners are just like, guys, that movie's not that good. What's wrong with you? But so everyone. Well, but I think if you're 30 or younger, you have experienced a different Internet, a different social media.

C

And Facebook wasn't really.

B

Yeah. And it doesn't like speak to you in the same way.

G

Like, it's a psychological profile of a kind of person, the kind of people who will.

F

Who now run the world.

D

And that's exactly the tech. That to me was the most subversive thing about the movie. Because growing up, the nerds were always the good guys. You saw like, remember Lucas, where he gets piled upon the football? And then all the nerds in the 80s and the 90s were the people that had these hidden virtues. That people were like, oh my God, in high school, you don't have biceps, you have brains. Eventually this guy's gonna be running your company. But you didn't think that perhaps that guy would be corrupted by all of his experiences and go on to use his prodigious intellect to dominate people and like fuck them over. And I remember watching that movie going, shit, if we have 10 or 15 years of these dudes who learned to code just fucking us, we might be in for it.

F

Well, guess what?

D

We were.

F

Yeah.

G

Yeah, we still are.

A

It's also just a very, I think, clear headed movie about the voracious nature of capital that just like getting bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger is the goal of everything. And that once forces come in with people who have those ideas, that their entire idea is growth at all costs, no matter the expense of humanity, personal friendship, whatever. And you know, most movies are not brave enough to be as kind of like sharp and mean as that movie is. I mean, that's a really tough movie. It's a really embittered movie. But I really, really agree with what you're saying, which is that younger people don't esteem the movie as highly. Not just because they didn't experience Facebook, but because I feel like pretty much all of us here have realized in the last five years that the most powerful people for this portion of our lives are rooted in the experience of the movie that we didn't necessarily know. And that when you're younger, you're like, I'm being held down by the president or the Senate or CEOs of Nabisco or whatever, massive company. But now these are the real domineering figures in society.

D

So many things about that movie surprise us. Like the wildly competent Justin Timberlake performance. Yeah, I was gonna say like surprise.

A

Now it seems like a comedy.

D

Now it's. Yeah, it's like we were like, oh my God, everything you look at the movie now. It just. It probably doesn't resonate the same way with you.

A

Yeah.

D

Yeah.

A

Well, great pick. That's some of the more trenchant analysis we've gotten on a pick on show. I wonder if my pick will engender similar analysis in original. I'll be taking Inception.

F

There you go. A movie you famously hate and shit on on pods all the time.

A

Yeah.

E

So have you just dedicated your life to convincing people you don't hate this movie?

A

I don't hate it, but I don't.

G

Cause it's powerful.

C

I don't love it.

F

It's a great pick.

A

This is the only pick to make. Are there other films that game?

D

Can I just ask you, are there

A

other Nolan films I like more?

C

No other movie. 2010 movies that you like more than Inception left on the board.

A

Yeah.

D

Can I just ask a dumb ass question? How the fuck you don't like Inception?

A

Wonderful film. I think it's very flawed.

B

Okay, say more. What are the flaws?

A

Well, there's a whole podcast where.

D

I know, but like just get. I haven't heard that motherfucker. So, like, give me just a little bit of. You go to Inception. You just leave. You don't like Inception. What happens? How's like, how's that? How did that happen?

C

Yeah, what do you do next? What do you do next?

A

I mean, I didn't do what Chris did, which is seek out the limitless drug so you could further expand your mind.

C

I know. I was already on the limitless drug. That's why Inception hit so hard.

D

I had a magical time.

A

I'll tell you one of my issues with it. It's the beginning of something that I think Nolan pursued over the next series of movies, which is his desire to over explain the premise of his movie and try to convince you that the naughty plotting makes sense. Because of his concerns that he has maybe gone too far. I find when he has a yet

G

you love tenet, but the whole point

A

of tenet is him unpacking that idea. It's him literally saying, don't think about it, just feel it. Which is. It's him responding to himself and the criticisms that he's received, which I found to be a very self aware and interesting idea. This movie, I think really bends over backwards to justify its structure and plotting in ways that I don't think is very impactful. That's just me. I am selecting it here. It has many merits. It looks incredible. It has an amazing score. It has good performances. My favorite movie star right at the center of It.

B

I live with this every day.

A

There's a lot of things I like about it.

F

Why not pick a movie you love?

A

Well, because we're playing a game. This isn't a make movie. My favorite movies podcast, if you want to.

F

When you guys did this podcast the first time, the second overall pick in the draft Chris took. Never let me go, did I?

A

You did, but that's because it was a beautiful.

B

Look. Hey, new Oshiguro next year.

D

Oh, my God.

F

I can't wait.

D

I almost texted you about that in recognization of this recognition.

A

Sorry, guys.

D

I'm fucked. Like, it's. I'm just gonna pick movies I like.

F

Yeah, great.

B

Okay.

A

Some people choose to play that way.

F

Inception is my favorite Nolan movie. So I think this is the right pick. But we all know you hate it, and so does everyone listening to this podc.

G

Yeah.

A

Hate is such a strong word, and it's just not true. I don't know what to tell you. It's like a 6 out of 10. I think it has a lot of cool stuff out.

E

Six out of ten.

D

Get the out of here.

B

Sean, you never sitting here letting this happen. Don't away, bro.

C

I've been here for years actually talk about these movies for as long as we are, because then we watch up saying things like, inception is a 6 out of 10.

E

Just torching your own draft in real terms.

C

Is it like 27 meters, 47 meters down? A six out of ten?

E

Yeah.

B

Oh, my God.

E

Holy.

A

I have a very discreet point of view, you know, I have one more. Is this a magical podcast?

C

I have one more question.

B

Okay.

C

Which is in 2010, you see inception, you.

A

You say what?

C

No, you.

A

The second person interview style.

C

How shocked would 2010 you be to know where Christopher Nolan stands in filmmaking right now?

A

I already really, really liked him. This is the thing I've been trying to say since Inception podcast. No, no. From Memento, which I saw in theaters and absolutely loved. And I've been saying this for years because people are just like, anti Nolan pilled because of the Inception pod that we did so many years ago. But I always loved Memento. I think Insomnia is not bad. I think it's pretty good. I'm not crazy about Batman Begins, but I loved the Dark Knight. Loved.

D

What about the Prestige?

A

And the Prestige? I love too. I liked all of those movies. So to me, it's not about a grudge. To me, it's Inception in Interstellar is a downswing for me in his career. And I know for many people It's a huge upswing. It's like the realization of something. I totally respect that.

G

I don't know if you agree with me. I think following might be his best work.

F

It's the skeleton key.

G

It really is a skeleton key to his entire filmography.

C

Who's third?

F

It's me, Dub Dub.

B

I'm very clear.

C

Did you think that you were gonna get Inception? Because he was gonna say, like, I couldn't possibly draft it.

B

I was prepared. I had two possibilities. And I knew that if he didn't take it, I had to take it logically, you know, in terms of playing a game to win.

G

I think it had to be Social Network, Inception, or vice versa.

F

And I think, because it's the ringer, the number three movie is also.

B

Well, I'm sure. And here I go in Oscar nominee. I will be taking the towel.

F

There she is.

B

Which, when we said 2010, was the first movie that popped into my head.

C

There goes college soccer.

B

This movie is directed and stars Ben Affleck, a patron saint of this podcast and my personal life. It's cool, this movie. Love this movie. This movie is so good. This went last night when I needed to prep and I wanted to put something on that I was familiar with while I was, like, looking at my computer.

G

But look at the dulcet tones of Blake Lively. That's what I gotta hear.

B

Listen, she's just. And I did stay watching through that scene. But come on. The opening of it with the. You know, I understand that it rips off your beloved heat, but I like to think of it as more of an homage.

C

It's all. It's in conversation with one another. Men in different cities doing the same thing.

B

I still. And that's exactly right. With flair.

D

The.

B

The title card of I'm proud to be from Charlestown. It ruined my life, literally, but I'm proud. Makes me laugh every single time. But it's also really fucked up. Ben Affleck, pretty good in this. Jeremy Renner, obviously. Whose car are we gonna take?

C

Yep.

B

And then also, you know, Ham doesn't get a lot of credit, but this is the not fucking around crew.

C

Him and Titus Welliver really used that

B

a lot in my own life.

A

You said it to your sons.

B

It was. I finally got to go to Fenway last year, I think. Or was it two years ago? Anyway, only thing I thought about was being in the town. I love this movie. It's very, very well made, crowd pleasing entertainment. So thank you, Ben Affleck.

F

Is it fair to say that no matter what the draft order had been. Those would have been the top three movies.

G

Or would someone have really. The reason I didn't. Because it felt unfair to take it from the people who care about it so much.

F

Is that the editor you want to

B

bring to a draft that isn't the one I brought?

A

I think a very logical pick.

G

Yeah.

B

What are their wives names? Janet's. The Janet's want you to open the door. Really good stuff.

A

I want to do a little Fergie.

B

I love it.

E

Yeah.

B

Please.

F

Rebecca Hall.

C

What do you think? What 2010 movie do you think Fergie would have worked best in Outside of

A

The Toy Story 3?

C

Gonna send you to the moon.

A

That's good.

C

Does that happen in Toy Story? He goes up. No. Okay.

A

No. Van, you're up.

C

Rob.

D

Rob.

E

I will be selecting Toy Story 3.

F

God damn it.

D

Okay.

E

Amazing movie to me. The best Toy Story movie.

G

Whoa.

E

And I am. I am really spooked about Blockbuster. So I'm actually going to take it in Blockbuster.

B

Oh, Okay.

E

I think you're not going to get a better high from franchise filmmaking than the end of Toy Story 3. Andy giving away all of the toys in which I am a wreck. As he says. Just some nice little affectionate thing about like, here's Woody, my guy. You know. Here's Slinky Dog. That's peak to me.

A

Did you see five yet?

E

Have not seen five yet. I'm saving it to see with some friends. Very excited about it.

D

Though. The end of the movie was so devastating. I did not think they could make another one.

G

Did they really?

D

But apparently I get it. But I did. At the end of the movie. This was in my.

C

This is the.

F

The trash compactor. Yes. It's the most devastating scene in movie history.

C

It is.

D

Wait.

E

The trash compactor is the devastating one?

G

Oh, my God.

B

God.

E

It's definitely Andy giving away the toys.

B

I think it's great.

E

You thought they were gonna die.

F

It's just. It's not even about whether you think they're. They're gonna die. It's them confronting the end of something so monumental. It is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen in my life. My top four has gone in order here. This is really fun. Also scary in terms of some movies being available when it comes back to me on the turn. But this is my favorite Toy Story movie as well.

B

I. I just.

E

It's wonderful.

A

Love couldn't be me. Toy Story 1. You seen it?

F

That's the second on my power ranking.

A

Incredible creation.

E

You do remind me a lot Of.

B

Have you seen any Toy Story movies?

C

I haven't.

B

You haven't?

E

Not you, Sean.

D

I don't watch cartoons.

B

No, I just haven't seen GI Joes or like my early. Yeah, like what?

C

We were Transformers mask, GI Joe and then Star wars stuff.

B

And did you have like a special toy or like lovey. Like a person that you took everywhere.

G

Stuffy.

B

Not a blankie.

C

Not after like five.

A

The line of De Shields baseball card.

B

Probably.

A

Okay. I do think that that's probably the consensus. Top four.

C

Yeah.

F

Yeah.

A

least amongst us.

C

And then Van comes.

A

Now Van Lathan has a selection to make.

E

Yeah.

D

Scott Pilgrim versus the World coming.

A

Yeah. Fucking hell.

E

Damn amazing movie.

D

Yeah.

A

Was that the first pod we ever did?

D

We did, yeah.

A

It was either that or Mr. Holland's opus Rewatchables, which is one of my favorite pods of all time.

C

Scott Pilgrim has not been a rewatchable. Right?

A

It has not.

D

He took comedy, comedy, comedy. Scott Pilgrim versus World.

G

I thought they did do.

E

I don't think it's been a proper rewatchable, has it?

D

No, no, no. We did.

A

We did a big picture.

D

We did a big picture 10 year anniversary. 10 year anniversary on it.

A

Me, you and Jason Concepcion.

G

Yeah.

D

Rarely say the term because I think it's overused, but a perfect movie.

E

Genuine love it.

D

Perfect movie, perfectly cast. Like a fantasy world that you want to be a part of. You wish these were your friends. You wish these were the happenings. The movie is just completely brilliant in every way to me.

E

It also knows how ridiculous it is and how much of a piece of shit Scott is. Those two things are so important. A lesser adaptation would be like, hey, let's do the fun video game stuff. Hey, let's do the Evil Exes. And we just lose track of what it's actually trying to say. This one is.

D

Well, let's stay away from how much of an asshole he is and not give you that.

E

Let's smooth it out.

D

Right?

A

Yeah. Music is incredible in it. The Beck songs also.

C

Incredible draft class cast.

A

Yeah. Early Bernard Army, Aubrey Plaza. Early Brandon Routh, Winstead, Mary Elizabeth, Winston Schwartzman.

G

Chris Evans.

D

Chris Evans is in there. And by the way, Kendrick, like some of those people in that movie aren't like always super cool when they're in other movies, but if a movie has three of the coolest performances ever, you know that motherfucker. That's another thing about the title down like Ben, Jeremy Renner and like these guys. Those guys have never been cooler in another movie. Yeah. And Blake Live.

E

But she really Is though, like, Age of Adeline. Eraser Up.

D

I love that movie. Incredible. I think that is underrated. I love that.

E

You just love a historical baddy, you

D

know, crossing time and place. Like, I showed that movie to my mom. My mom was a basket case. She was like, oh, my God, they were in love before. I'm like, yeah, it's his son. It's kind of weird, but whatever. I love that fucking movie. I know y' all don't take it seriously, but that's the type of shit I get into. Saturday Afternoon with Mama, but Mama, let me put some on and blow your fucking mind. Watch what happened to Han Solo.

C

Did you start crying for a second?

E

I love.

A

It's fun. Scott Pilgrim vs the World's a great pick. Okay, okay. Now it is Ciara's turn.

C

Shutter Island. Blockbuster.

B

Damn, it gotta be.

G

I was like, it's gonna make it all the way to me if I didn't do the.

A

This is what I was doing.

C

I can't remember if you. I think you said when you were talking about 2010 in general, about, like, expectations versus what you got in the theater. I think Shutter island was a minor letdown when I saw it. So. I was such a huge fan of the Dennis Lehane book. And then it is something that stands up to such thorough interrogation on repeat viewing. It is so well made. The performances are so good in this. Ruffalo and DiCaprio are incredible. Michelle Williams is heartbreaking in this. That's all she did back in 2010, just break people's hearts. And it's just such an awesome genre exercise by Scorsese that actually then breaks through whatever walls of, like, this is a cool thriller, cool psychological Hitchcock homage, and become something, like, incredibly profound and sad. But I highly recommend the book as well. If anybody's ever looking for a beach read, Dennis Lehane always delivers Mystic River.

F

There you go.

D

On the beach.

A

Pop one and just relax a little bit. Check out Shutter Island.

C

Shutter Island. It's like a mystery, but it's like, there's water, you know, like, if you're on the beach, maybe you're just, like,

B

for, like, game reading. Sure, yeah.

C

Sometimes.

B

I did that once. My mom took me to Florence before I went to college, and I read. What's that book? Charles Whip, Agony and the Ecstasy. No one. Anyway, it was good, but I haven't.

F

It's.

B

Maybe I'll do some water themes.

C

But this remains one of my favorite 21st century Scorsese's.

A

So I would encourage people if they haven't seen it. To check out A personal journey with Martin Scorsese through American Movies, which is a documentary he did some years ago where he talks through a lot of different kinds of American movies he loves. And he talks a lot about noir in that documentary. And you can see him, like, 10 years later doing all the stuff he always wanted to do in that movie, which is really great.

C

Your turn, Joe.

G

Okay.

A

Joanne.

G

It's really tough for me.

F

You wanted Shutter Island. Yeah.

G

Blockbuster, I think, is by far and away the hardest category for me, because I think a lot of these films absolutely blow. And I was really hoping for either Inception or Shutter Island. However, there's still a great one here. There's a good one right left for me, and it's called True Grit. And that is when I'm taking a blockbuster.

B

It's tough.

G

This is Jeff Bridges. Crazy Heart was really the beginning of it, but in full coot mode, and it's just all coot from there on out. But this is. Yeah, just like roostering and cootin and

C

hell or high water in and.

A

Yeah, I'd like to explore more about coot mode.

G

Yeah.

E

You know, when's Chris entering his coot mode?

C

I think I've been in it for.

G

I think you need to, like, lose a tooth in order to, like, get really good there. You have great teeth.

C

They're British. They'll fall out eventually.

G

An incredible intro to Hailee Seinfeld. Great David performance. My guy Barry Pep is here. Donald Gleason's here. It's a fantastic movie and a remake that no one was clamoring for because John Wayne's version is so iconic. And then they just really did it with Drew Gray.

F

Really?

G

And how is it a blockbuster?

B

I was gonna say shout out 2010, when this made $171 million at the

A

box office domestic, I do believe the primary producer of the film who helped to get it made was a young man named David Ellison. Oh, interesting.

C

Interesting.

A

In his earliest days of trying to get Skydance off the ground, he was getting involved in active projects about developing them himself.

C

And if the Coen brothers have been like, we're good, it's okay.

G

Are you trying to besmirch my one remaining good option that I had in Blockbuster?

A

I'm nearly elevating an important fact about one of the incoming leading seasons in some ways in media.

C

And Drew Grit laid the path to get to Lioness.

A

That's right.

F

That's really why Joe picked it.

G

As you know, I'm a huge lion.

D

Lioness is Fucking strong women.

A

That's what you like.

C

So you have two picks here.

A

Yes. You have another pick.

G

I think the other tough for me category is franchise film. So I am taking the American release of the Swedish film the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.

F

Great pick. I think that's franchise.

A

This was a question that Mallory asked me yesterday.

F

Yeah.

A

Would this be a lot? It would be, yeah, of course.

G

No, this is Noomi Rapace's and then Michael Nyquist.

D

I never saw that one.

B

And then Fincher remakes it the next year.

F

You took that in French.

D

That one I saw, yeah.

B

It's good.

G

They released all three, the entire trilogy in 2010.

B

Did you read those books?

F

I did, yes.

B

They really like an open faced sandwich. I just like everything. She's just always eating an oat. Open faced sandwich or frozen pizza.

A

Just eating a few other things.

B

Okay.

G

There you go.

A

Shaman.

B

Okay.

G

But yeah, I feel really good about that in franchise film. That's all I have to say about that.

B

Okay.

A

Those are sterling picks. We're back to you, Sierra.

C

An original look at you.

B

No phone, no computer.

C

I'm taking Unstoppable.

B

Oh, beautiful. Okay.

C

The platonic ideal of the movie. Two men on a train.

F

Wait, in original?

B

Yeah.

C

Is it based on something?

D

I think there's a book.

F

I think so.

A

Isn't it what it is based on the real life CSX88B?

C

I'll pick it in another category if I have to. Are you really telling me that that's

A

based on the real life CSX888 but

G

seeing it off of Wikipedia and we've

B

never been wrong source material that in

E

other categories it's Oscar eligible.

F

It's Oscar eligible. Yeah. And certainly wild.

A

This incident has its own Wikipedia page. And in the first paragraph of that page it says the incident is.

C

This must be great to just be able to write the constit as you go. Let's just be like Amendment 4 if it has a Wikipedia appearance.

A

That's my advice to you. Start your own movie podcast. Crazy.

C

I guess I'll put it at Oscar.

A

Sure.

F

Love it.

A

Oscar. Good.

G

That's good. That's great.

B

Incredible.

C

This like I was gonna say just the platonic ideal of a movie. Two men on a train. That train won't stop.

B

I mean guys sitting, doing their thing

C

and then the executive is like, I don't know. And they're like, like Denzel, Chris Pine, Tony Scott. Get the fuck out of. Write the check and don't talk to me for a year. That's how this movie worked. And it was perfect. And Quentin Tarantino agrees with us. In fact, he illuminated this movie to me. I always liked it very much. And then talking about it with him on Rewatchables, I was like, I have been converted. This is what the guy on the Road to Damascus was. Happened to him.

A

You know what happened to him?

C

Converted. Yeah.

G

You and Paul were just sort of like, I've seen the light.

C

Wonderful, wonderful movie. And a great snapshot of Pennsylvania.

A

How wonderful.

G

It's just guys in different cities doing things.

C

Yeah, it is.

E

But this time they're yelling like luck doesn't exist at a rail yard. Just back and forth to each other

A

over and over, riding on a train.

B

I love trains.

A

You like train travel?

F

Oh, I love trains.

C

How could you not? You grew up in the Northeast, Coral.

F

That's one of the things I miss about these.

A

I spent a lot of time on trains. I think. I think I feel like I.

F

The Acela Express between the Long Island

A

Railroad, the subway, the PATH train. I kind of. I've done my time.

C

You do a lot of PATH training in your life?

A

Sure, plenty. I worked in Weehawken, New Jersey.

B

Oh, wow.

C

There's always a hidden chapter with you, man.

B

It's true.

D

I took the train from New Orleans to LA to get out here.

A

Oh, wow.

D

Yeah.

A

New Orleans. How long did that take?

D

48 hours with, like, a bindle and, like, hanging out.

A

No sleep car.

D

No sleep car. Didn't have the money to sleep car.

A

Was this in 1902? When did you do this?

D

This was when I came out to la.

C

I could see you doing very well on the train.

D

Yep.

C

A lot of conversations, a lot of convers.

G

You love to ride the rails.

D

Observation car. We would get off so that when the train stops and it connects in Texas, you're in San Antonio, so you gotta stay there for, like, four hours. It's always like on a Monday. You watch Monday Night Football. It's great.

A

Was Wemby there?

D

Wemby was not there. Okay, good. I don't know if he was born.

C

It's your pick, brother.

D

It's my pick. An original. I'm gonna take a movie that's off the beaten path, so I don't need to think about that. I don't care. In franchise film. I'm going to go Iron Man 2.

E

You know, there are many rounds left.

F

This is incredible.

D

You know what?

G

Because I think I love Mickey Rourke.

D

I think it's unfairly maligned.

A

Do you?

D

I do. I think the Iron Man. I think the first three. Iron Man. I don't care about winning this fucking draft. I want to talk about Mickey Rourke as whiplash.

G

I will say in retrospect, like when Marvel films got worse, you look back on Iron Man 2. You're like, oh, yeah, not that bad.

F

Or Blockbuster.

D

I did it in franchise.

C

Isn't this Natasha's introduction to the.

D

Introduces us to Natasha.

F

Yeah. Happy's watching her change in the rearview mirror.

A

The original. Not the original. The Second War Machine.

D

I remember the second War Machine. Well, the second. No, kind of the original Justin.

F

Happy.

D

So the second Rhodey. The original War Machine.

A

He wasn't War Machine in the first one, right?

D

He wasn't War Machine in the original one. I recently caught it and I was delighted to do so.

A

I genuinely caught it the way you might catch chlamydia.

D

I recently caught the movie, damn it. And I thought the movie was. I like it also.

G

This reminds me, is that true? Is this their origin story?

D

I think he's funny. This also is when indicative of the time where Hollywood went, Mickey Rourke, maybe we'll do it again.

G

And then they were like, no, nah.

A

Yeah, they tried.

D

Yeah, they tried. The wrestler comes out. It's like, oh, let's do Mickey again. He's fucking crazy talented. Which he is. But just also crazy. Also crazy.

F

I have a lot of notes on the Monaco Grand Prix sequence now that I'm an F1 fan.

A

Just gonna throw that out here. This is a real Jon Favreau. We sure he's good situation for. I've got more than a few of these on the ledger.

G

Well, this was a whole. Jon Favreau did not want to make this movie so quickly, but they like locked him down right as like the first Iron man comes out. It's this massive success and they just like lock him down for Iron Man 2 and try to get it out as fast as possible. And like when you see the behind the scenes footage of Favreau on set, he just looks so tired and sad and he's just sort of like, I've made a real devil's bargain.

A

Two great below the line contributors to this film. Do you know who the screenwriter of this movie is?

D

No.

A

Who's the sole credited screenwriter of Iron Man 2? No one knows who it is.

G

Justin Theroux.

A

Justin Theroux, Wow.

G

I wrote a book.

A

If you didn't know, that would have been a problem. The cinematographer of the film is Matthew Libatique, longtime Spike Lee collaborator.

D

Was this Disney era or no? Yeah, Disney had come in at this point.

G

They were. Yeah, interesting.

A

That was a choice Is Rob up now?

F

Yeah, Rob's up. I'm scared you're going to pick what I want.

E

I came here to win the draft and to experience ennui. And I am out of ennui. I will be selecting somewhere in.

B

I knew this was going to happen right away.

F

You're fucking rude.

B

I mean, I was planning to do it next.

F

Feels spiteful and rude.

A

I don't know how I didn't see.

D

It's a bit.

F

This is why I asked everyone to set me over under no.

B

1 engaged.

E

I just.

G

He doesn't know how to be any other way.

D

It's a bit.

G

He doesn't know how to be any other way.

E

I love this movie.

B

Me too.

E

And I have to say you're partially to blame. If you weren't such a strong advocate for your perspective on cinema.

B

You're so welcome.

E

You know, it really is a joke.

B

What do you love about it, Robin?

E

Which category, Honestly? First of all, is it weird that this movie makes me want to be a dad? Is that a weird takeaway from they find each other? I am a father of several kids.

A

One of the girl dad movies.

E

Incredible girl dad movie. Honestly, incredible Hollywood movie and more my speed. I find a lot of, like, movies about movies to be a lot, frankly. This one is so subdued. It is so, like, rolling its eyes at the whole process. It's a lot of, like, boring junkets and existential crises. And that's where I like to live personally.

B

Sure.

F

Which category did you pick it?

C

I'm going to take it in.

E

I'm taking in comedy.

C

Who plays the kid in this?

E

Somewhere, I don't think, like, absolute star making.

C

I wouldn't get you, like, with a challenge.

F

Him.

B

Yeah, I.

E

You don't think it's a comedy?

B

No.

E

Okay.

B

This movie. Parts of it are like this. This twin strippers are very funny.

D

Hey, do you know who those strippers are? Those are the Shannon twins.

B

Okay.

D

And that's. And like. And that's. And that movie. Hold on, hold on.

G

Go ahead.

D

So those are so. Look, I'm watching that movie.

G

I'm set.

D

Those are the Shannon twins. Those are the first time I had ever seen the Shannon twins before. And I was like, whoa, that's the LA shit that I'm talking about now. They went on to. Do you know who the Shannon twins are?

A

Tell us more.

D

You guys don't know about the Shannon. This is TMZ shit they went on to. So you know the boom.

F

It's not porn addict shit. It's TMZ shit.

D

It could be both.

G

I don't think Sean denied it. He just deflected it.

D

He knows who they are.

B

There's a quit.

C

Don't be a coinboy at first.

D

Then you know Sam Jones from Blue Mountain State?

A

Yeah.

D

Okay. He went on to do a sex tape with one of the Shannon twins. So he got even more later on.

B

Okay.

D

Yeah. So anyway, this is the first time I ever saw him.

B

And where are they now? The Shannon twins?

D

They ended up getting bbls.

G

Oh, okay.

D

And so they changed a little bit, but that's the first time I ever. That's the first time I ever saw them was in that movie.

B

Did everyone. Did everyone have.

G

They ended up getting bbls on their bingo card of what we were talking

B

about in this group. But they haven't had them on.

D

They hadn't had them when they were in that movie?

G

No, no, no.

B

In that movie. But people are undoing the BBL now.

D

Oh, then I don't know. They've got. I haven't seen them in a while.

G

Does one dissolve a baby?

B

L. I don't actually know about the exterior.

D

I think they go. It depends on what kind of baby

G

I'm backing. Amanda, this is not a comedy.

D

That's not a comedy in any way.

E

The movie opens with them doing a dual strip dance to my hero. There goes my hero Somewhere. What?

A

According to Wikipedia, somewhere is a 2010 drama of film.

F

So you're taking it in wild.

E

I will take it in original instead.

A

Original.

C

I'm sure that there's nobody in this movie that is based on something.

A

It says it is based on the real life adventures of the Shannon twins.

F

Isn't this, like, at least semi autobiographical? But not enough.

B

Not enough.

A

I agree.

B

All right, Points.

A

Inspired by.

F

But that's actually helpful for another book.

B

It was in the Mickey Rourke era and they were like, it's gonna. It's gonna happen for Dork was right there. I know.

D

And he just never, like, had the

B

teacup scene under the water at the chateau

G

season.

B

It's really good.

D

Like, Dorf has been.

B

You know what?

A

I think he's a little self defense season three.

B

Not 11 to mention. What's the other. What's the really good song? So how could it be very talented? You know that song. It came on the other day and I thought of you because it's a dynamite song.

A

What was happening there?

B

Because Rob and I believe in Julian Casablancis solo projects. Not voids, just the solo album.

E

It's like a six track, all bangers,

B

no singers and I should have known because I know he also loves Julian

A

Casablancis is a former music journalist.

B

You asked a question and I'm giving you the answer.

A

So that's why just hit me with a robin eye. All right. I'm glad you guys found union. We did just shanked you in the chest.

E

Okay.

B

No, I was saying I should have known because she loves. I'll try anything else.

C

If you had done it, it would have just been.

B

I mean, you guys have had it. You guys were a little cold on somewhere which is you like last time.

A

It's not my favorite.

F

I know.

E

You're just like I've seen an Antonioni

B

film before which like. Okay, congratulations. So I appreciate know each other back then.

C

How do you know?

A

We've had many of Sophia's conversations.

B

I appreciate that, Rob.

A

I like it. It's not bad.

B

Sees her work.

C

True.

E

Plus I am a man of a certain age wandering around la.

D

What am I to do to pick this? It looks like the Shannon twins got the bbls.

B

Well, I was gonna paint that picture but luckily I have.

D

I didn't realize this

A

guy's cross talk.

B

Yeah.

A

Complicated.

D

I'm sorry.

B

Sorry.

G

We were getting an update on bbls. They've been.

D

It looks like they got the bbls taken out the Shannon.

B

See, I told you that's happening. That's what right now.

D

That's what they're doing in certain parts of the culture.

B

Yeah. Right.

A

There's a camera literally over your shoulder.

G

Okay.

A

So be careful with what you're pulling up.

G

Oh, you cannot dissolve a bbl.

B

It's an extraction. Okay. Because what is it depends on what kind of bbl.

D

Yeah, the fat transferred and like, you know, that's like kind of not. Then there's this implants. But like the Shantoins look like they.

B

They got the implants removed.

D

Yeah.

B

Okay. All right.

E

So what category did you just take that? I took it in original.

D

Yes.

C

Okay. Because you got bullied out of comedy. Just like I got bullied.

E

It's an extremely funny movie. I don't know what to say.

A

What was this bullied?

C

Let's. We'll find out when we get to your. It's funny, but not a comedy.

B

Unless it's about the comedy of the movie. He emptied just occurrence.

A

So hated.

B

Okay. So I obviously was going to take somewhere in original next and I was going to do it next because I knew Rob would be lurking. I just didn't think he would have the guts. And I kind of salute you. So what we learn from this Is go with your heart.

F

Oh, no.

B

So but, oh, no. Oh, I didn't even think about that. But then you just started whining, oh, so now I have to go with my other heart. Okay.

F

This is an incredible experience in comedy.

B

Are we making a frittata? I'm taking Morning Glory. Yeah, we're making a frittata.

G

You know what?

B

I was not gonna do it until you said, oh, no. So I just want you to learn a lesson from this, which is keep

C

it tight, poker face.

A

Anyway, that's a good lesson.

B

Morning will, an incredible 2010 romantic comedy written by Aline Brosh McKenna, who also wrote Devil Wears Prada 27 Dresses. This stars Rachel McAdams as a aspiring. Well, she is a national news producer.

F

Who else is in this movie?

B

The third ranked morning show. And this is at a time unlike in Disclosure Day, where broadcast news still mattered.

G

Diane Keaton.

B

And she's producing a morning show starring Diane Keaton. She recruits Harrison Ford, the old anchor back. He is curmudgeonly and then ultimately he's not. And he makes a frittata and then also exposes some local corruption. And Patrick Wilson is there being very handsome. Really, really good movie. That is undersung.

G

So it's like, it's sort of of huffing working girls, like, you know, but it works.

B

It's really good. Even though I rewatched it recently, I just watched the frittata scene recently and he says it that way the most. And she is wearing a ball gown. Not a ball gown. I'm sorry, it's a cocktail dress. Because it is just below the knee to her job interview at the Today show.

G

It's tough.

B

Which she wears a little cardigan over it, but she has to run in it. Right.

F

Well.

B

And you understand that they've chosen this dress. So they have the montage of her running in real New York where it is fake with the dress swishing, and she looks very pretty. This is also one of the reasons that then Rachel McAdams gave that lovely tribute to Diane Keaton at the Academy Awards this year, which was very nice because they worked together. They also worked together on Family Stone, which I had forgotten. Underrated in its own way, but not released in 2010. So Morning Glory and comedy, it is great.

F

That's not what I had in mind.

B

Okay, it's fine.

E

No frittatas for you.

F

But I always welcome a Harrison Ford selection.

G

Deny, deny.

A

I'm off now.

F

I am scared that Sean's gonna take what I want, though, actually, genuinely, I

A

have no Idea what you're gonna take. I'm not quite sure where to go.

F

Is it cause you can't take a movie you hate and would give 6 out of 10 to.

A

I'm using the word hate. You're like Palpatine. You know it's flowing through you.

F

Not me. Limited power.

A

I do that to Alice all the time now, and she loves it.

D

Incredible.

A

Unlimited power.

F

Incredible.

D

It's very scary.

A

It is very. She thinks it's hysterical. Okay. In comedy, I will be taking the other guys.

C

Fucker.

A

Which is.

F

That hurts. Chris.

A

The last true Adam McKay comedy. This is right before the big pivot to the socially minded. I would argue, though, this is the beginning of the socially minded movies that he makes. This is a comedy starring Will Ferrell and Mark Wahlberg and historical performances also showing us the hideous nature of capitalism, thanks to Steve Coogan's character, who is an evil banker. Incredible Michael Keaton performance in this movie. Five of the best minutes you'll ever see from the Rock and Sam Jackson. To jump off the building is legitimate.

C

It's hard to. The outtakes of Eva Mendes scenes are just some of the best.

A

Who is. Is that?

E

Who is she?

B

Are you.

F

Are you allowed to talk about her into a microphone? She's one of your Alzheimer's.

C

She's. She's a goat.

F

Yeah.

G

Yeah.

A

She's like. This is one of her very last screen performances. She doesn't do a lot of movies,

C

but, like, she's like. When she's like. He's like, honey, I can't believe you're dressed in, like, that slop.

A

Yeah.

D

That scene might be some of Mark Wahlberg's best acting.

A

He's so funny. Reacting to her. Entering the room is some of the best stuff you've ever done.

C

No, it's going on.

E

I don't understand.

A

Who is that?

D

No, seriously, who is that?

C

It's the old fallen chain.

D

Yeah.

A

And this does feel like kind of getting close to the end of this era of movies, not just for McKay, but for this whole cohort of Yaptow guys.

D

What was the last one? Was it 22 Jump Street?

C

Get him to the Greeks. The tombstone. Right.

D

22 Jump Street. Get him to the Greek. You could argue Neighbors, maybe.

A

Like Neighbors is a good one.

D

All of that stuff starts to fade away, and those guys are gone.

A

After Neighbors is what I like.

B

Neighbors.

D

13 neighbors is neighbors too. Oh, with the sorority girls. Yeah.

C

Yeah.

A

You wanted it to center women. You thought Neighbors should center the female perspective.

G

Definitely.

D

You like it?

G

I definitely want to go to Neighbors. Two for.

A

Yeah, so yeah, that's it. The other. What? That's not what you were worried about?

F

No, I'm gonna. I get to pick both the movies I wanted to pick here. I'm excited.

C

Cool.

E

Okay.

G

Okay.

A

We're normal about it. You said we. We recorded with you an hour ago and you were like, I'm going to be totally chill.

C

She says that before every draft. Remember when you said a section is

B

a 6 out of 10?

F

I picked social Network. Everyone agreed it was cameras.

A

Stand by it.

F

I've waited an hour to make my second pick and now I'll do so. Okay, go ahead. With my second pick, I will be selecting my original. I'm thrilled to select Blue Valentine. I will be celebrating Cunningus here in the second round. One of the most memorable scenes in movie history. And also what I take away from Blue Valentine about how falling in love and lust is exciting and being married is often quite hard.

G

This is a movie that I think about often. You love divorce.

F

I really do love this movie. This is one of my favorite movies of the year. Just incredible performances from Michelle Williams and Ryan Gosling. And then I'm really excited to pick another one of my genuinely favorite movies from this year. I'm gonna take Kick Ass as my comedy on the turn here.

B

I love Kick Ass. Ass.

F

That movie rules. It is incredibly, incredibly violent. Incredibly chaotic, heightened, disturbing, riveting. It's a great genre film that is not actually eligible in original, to be clear, but is very original in its spirit, even though it is part of a franchise. And I love that film.

C

Probably very influential and like James Gunn stuff.

F

The boys.

A

Deadpool.

C

Deadpool.

F

Definitely hyper violent, kind of like rude, graphic. Forget the R rating. Let's go into NC17 territory and one of many.

B

Nick Cage.

D

Oh.

G

Oh.

D

He never leaves us. He pops back. He pops back in to check in on us.

B

Oh, yeah, Nick Cage.

D

He can do it.

E

Don't act so surprised. I feel like you're being very rude about it.

G

No, it's just sometimes you're like, huh, you take enough.

E

I'm here for all caged. Sorcerer's Apprentice. Whatever. Let's do it.

F

Let's do it.

G

Than occasion movies I've seen.

F

Still waiting for your spider noir thoughts, by the way.

E

Look, it's a busy time. I've had many 10 movies to watch.

D

Yeah, I think it's a good show. By the way, this guy that Ryan Gosling was during this time, I thought that he would be that guy forever.

A

This was my favorite actor in the universe.

D

Like I thought that the place beyond the pines. Blue Valentine drive version of Ryan Gosling. I thought that was gonna be Ryan Gosling. And then Ryan went, nah, not too much. Let me sun it up a little bit. And he's been kind of drifting back and forth.

A

He did nice guys, and then he took a lot of time off.

D

Yeah, yeah. But, like, that was deadly coolest. The coolest motherfucker in the entire time. Yeah.

G

This was also the fillers now.

B

This was, like, Internet boyfriend. This was hey girl era, right? Yeah. Do you remember this?

D

Yeah.

B

It was really powerful stuff.

E

The fact that Blue Valentine might have inspired. Hey girl.

A

Girl. We were.

E

We were adrift.

G

No, it was Lars and the real Girl.

D

Lars and the real girl. Yeah.

A

Yeah. But I. I'm holding my Derek Scene France stock, and I will be holding it in perpetuity. One of my. One of my favorite.

C

I got you, brother.

A

He's just.

C

I'm backstopping you. Investment.

A

If we. If we just put Gosling in Roofman, what does. Roofman goes crazy.

C

But you know what? Everybody. Nobody even knows. He. He's still cooking off those dick sporting goods ads. Remember how goated those were?

A

I do.

F

Hell, yeah.

A

See, in France.

C

Yeah.

A

Yeah. I had breakfast to see in France once. Just magical shit. He was just like, it's all about the soul. Just looking me right in the eyes, dead serious. Like, I was like, don't you know I'm an irony poisoned millennial weirdo? And he was like, no, listen.

G

Did he make you live in a house with him for a month before you had breakfast?

A

He got married. Divorced.

H

Married.

A

Remarried. So I'm currently a bigamist.

D

I love him, too.

G

Fassbender recently told a story about how he, you know, he and Alicia Vikander, like, hooked up on the Derek CN France set and how he used to, like, Derek put his trailer here, Michael Fassbenders was here, and Alicia Vikander was here, and he just used to sneak out at night to, like, fuck her wildly and then go back to his trailer.

F

Wildly.

G

Wildly.

B

Good for him.

A

Some light between oceans.

B

Oh, that was the lighthouse.

G

Yeah. They all had to live together for that one, too.

B

Yeah, well, that one, that is sort of. You're on a remote location. That's the whole gist of the movie. Good sweaters in that one.

A

Who wouldn't fall in love and create a family and stay together forever after making the Light Between Oceans, a film for our time. Yep. My turn.

F

Yeah.

A

You went Blue Valentine. And what was the second pick?

F

Kick ass.

A

Kick ass. Of course.

F

So I Have. Yeah. I took Blue Valentine as original and Kick Ass as comedy.

G

Okay.

F

Long time until it comes back to me.

G

So, yeah, that's how I feel. I'm halfway between that point.

F

I feel great about my first three, but round four is a. I think

A

I'm going to take an Oscar nominee. The Australian crime drama Animal Kingdom.

F

I almost took this.

C

Come on, Sean.

F

I almost took this.

E

This is a sick movie.

A

Written and directed by David Michaud, starring Joel Edgerton, Ben Mendelsohn, Guy Pearce, and the Oscar nominated Jackie Weaver for best supporting actress.

C

Do you know what I was gonna. Can I just tell you what I was gonna do with this? This was gonna be my franchise.

F

That's what this is. One of the questions I texted him about, could it be a franchise?

A

Part of the reason why I'm taking it is because I knew there would be some interest in it in multiple categories, but it's also. It's an awesome. It's one of the great crime movies of the 21st century. So it's fantastic.

E

Can we clarify the franchise point? Like, is this eligible for franchise?

A

I think so, yeah.

E

Okay.

A

Did I say yes?

C

It's ip. They made like a long running TNT series off this.

A

They did, yes.

E

I just know the big picture can be very small minded about television and I just want to respect it as a big picture.

C

But big screen mind, yes.

F

Wait, which category did you take it in?

A

I'm taking an Oscar nominee.

C

Jackie Weaver.

A

Because of Jackie Weaver.

F

Great movie.

A

Shot by Adam Arkhipaw. This is a great, great movie. I think it's like a little kind of going under the radar now, I think because Michaud maybe has not elevated the way that some people thought he would as a filmmaker. But huge fan of this movie.

C

Mendelson's out of his mind in this. He's so good.

G

This was like a big, like Ben Mendelson, Joel Ederson, like that generation of

A

Australian filmmakers kind of coming to the fore at this time. Yeah, for sure. And Nash, his brother and a bunch of other people popping at this time. Okay.

B

Damn it.

F

That was tough for me.

A

Amanda, you ready?

B

And Rob Mahoney is lurking. So I will now do my other Heart as previously referenced in original. I'm gonna take Greenberg, the Noah Baumbach film about a very angry man who writes letters because he can't connect with other people. I referenced this movie both in terms of I don't actually write the letters. Some compose them in my head. I'm just like, if I were gonna do this. And it also brings Me back from the edge. You know, like, you don't want to be the Greenberg writing the letter.

A

You got a little Greenberg in you.

E

Yeah. Of course, you're now a newsletter author, so.

B

And then. And then. That's true one.

A

That would be a nice, good alternate.

C

The Greenberg Diaries to the management of Albertsons. Your aisles must be bigger.

F

Amanda, did Greenberg inspire the Correspondent? What do you think? Have you read the Correspondent?

B

I haven't read the Correct. It's on your list.

G

I know.

B

Well, everyone recommended it.

F

It's quite good.

B

But I heard that it was very. It did a lot of crying.

F

You will be sobbing.

B

And I'm not looking for that experience.

F

But it's also uplifting and affirming, but incredibly fun.

B

So I'm gonna do it. The other reason I reference this. I think of this movie all the time, is there's a scene when they're taking the Greta Gerwig character to get the abortion and she says, can we go to In N Out afterwards? And Ben Stiller says, it's your day. And I once a week. And like, I say it's your day a lot to other people. And I don't think they know that I'm referencing that scene in Greenberg Greenberg, but I am. I fully am.

G

Always be Greenberg.

B

Yeah. Anyway, Baumbach is one of my favorite filmmakers. It's been, you know, an up and down and interesting journey.

A

On a text message between me, you, and Tracy this week, I said, I will never, ever sell my bomb.

B

And I will never sell it either. But I have found myself walking. I mean, I walked out of J. Kelly and was like, I miss Greenberg Bombach. And this is. This and Margot at the wedding are kind of the other end of the spectrum. There's like the very. You know, he's softened and opened his heart. And that's great in life and maybe not in movies or. Or at least not what I'm looking for in movies. It is his day, but I find myself missing the Greenberg element.

C

Does Jennifer Jason Leigh have a story credit on this movie? I believe she does.

B

I mean, yeah, that one. I was dancing around that part a little bit. She does, yeah. Yeah.

A

It's an incredible movie about hating Los Angeles too. This guy fucking hates Los Angeles.

B

He does. And lives in the most incredible house.

A

Yeah.

D

Yeah.

B

Which, you know, I get it.

A

Still are making a new.

B

Except they don't.

A

Did you guys hear about that?

F

Yeah.

B

Congratulations.

C

But you guys are just a team of the people, you know.

G

Do you think that's coming out before the next season of Severance or after Nixon 5.

B

Also, this trailer is not as big as the Social Network trailer for me, but this was with all my friends on SBA sound system. And I still think about that.

A

Oh, yeah.

B

Anyway, Very, very formative. Anyway.

G

Incredible.

C

Were you taking Greenberg?

E

I was not gonna take Greenberg. This is not one for me. It just kind of missed me for some reason.

B

Yeah, well, you know, you're younger and full of hope, so that's good.

A

I don't know.

E

I did just take somewhere, so how full of hope could I be?

G

Comedy.

A

Rob, you're up.

E

I will be selecting a movie that. I don't know if any of you care about this movie, but it means a lot to me, personally, to me. One of the funniest movies ever made. I will be selecting MacGruber.

F

Oh, my God, I love this movie. I do, Rob. I had this really high amount.

E

It is. I mean, speaking of perfect movies.

G

Incredible.

E

Show me a movie that has a better getting the gang together montage. Better use of celery. Better. Dude plowing his wife's ghost on her gravestone.

B

Yes.

E

I dare you to provide one.

D

So I had never seen this.

E

Yeah.

D

And Jeomie was like, man, you've never seen MacGruber. I can't believe you've never seen MacGruber. So we put it on. I thought that movie was absolutely fucking terrible, man.

C

What?

G

How dare.

D

Dare you not believe how bad. Like, so when you say get the.

E

Val Kilmer plays a villain named Dieter von Kunst, and you're telling me this is a bad movie.

D

When you were talking about getting the gang, that's like the wrestler's part, right?

E

No, there's like a getting. I mean, I don't want to spoil the bit, but.

C

Yeah.

E

And they all get his elite team.

G

Spoil MacGruber.

E

I would never.

D

And they all get to me. I try. Like, I had never seen MacGruber before. I had obviously seen the Saturday Night Live sketches. And I sat down like, okay, MacGruber, this is gonna be funny. Jeremy said, van, I cannot believe you haven't seen MacGruber. I tried to watch it. That shit was fucking ass to me. It was so terrible. I'm like, what did I miss about grouper? It's really not that funny.

F

I stand by you, Rob.

E

Mal, thank you so much.

F

Didn't they make a.

E

They made a spin off television show.

C

That's right.

F

I guess it wasn't covered in franchise.

E

I actually would like to select it in franchise.

D

Oh, there you go.

F

Comedy franchise.

A

Hey, never saw that coming. But I will allow It.

E

But, Van, this is hurtful. Every movie you have ever recommended to me is the most Inception 6 out of 10 movie I've ever seen in my life, and you're telling me MacGruber is bad.

D

So the movies. The movies that I like, I tell you that they're bad. And the reason. But he knows.

E

Van knows.

D

Well, I like movies for my own. Like, so when someone see this deal, when someone suggests a movie to me and it's a movie that they love, I kind of expect to love it. When someone tells me, oh, this is the most important movie you've ever seen before.

C

And you're like, I'm gonna write a

D

blog post about how I hate it. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, whatever, but. And so Jomi did this.

A

You don't have a vendetta or anything. You just. You're just an honest commentator is what you're saying.

D

I never have vendetta, okay? I'm not a vendetta guy.

B

He just told me, just tell the truth teller.

D

And then, like, when I. When I watch that, I'm like, this is just not that funny. Like, I just. I. I really wish that I would have thought that movie.

E

It's okay. It's for us.

A

This is the magic of cinema.

F

Guys, good time to remind him that he took Iron Man 2 in the second.

E

I feel great about it. We can do franchise battle anytime you want.

B

Fan, fan.

G

Where are you on Jackass?

D

I like it. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

H

Look at you.

E

Don't.

G

Don't.

D

It's funny to me, but once again, I'm real early with the Jackass guys. Those are my guys, you know, have

F

to pick this round.

A

You have a pick, right?

C

It's my turn.

F

No, Van's up.

A

Van's up. Sorry, Van.

F

Your turn.

B

Do we need.

G

Does Van help with this?

B

I just thought of a good Greenberg letter that I want to write to the. The parking structure here. Because I keep getting locked in the door, the doorways, like, in the hall. That's perfect. And it's like a real fire hazard. Like, I have been. I don't have a fire. Why? Because I don't come here. Yeah, well, how am I. How am I getting out of the parking structure?

A

Dearest parking structure.

D

They're gonna come.

B

That's what I'm saying.

F

I am without

B

five times.

F

I think we need to.

A

Okay, let's take a bathroom break.

H

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D

I'm going in original. All right. And it's an easy choice for me.

C

Okay.

A

Shannon. Twin sex tape.

D

That was also very good. Certainly some original content. It's directed by the Hughes brothers, starring Denzel Washington. The Book of Eli.

F

Amazing.

C

That's not based on a graphic novel.

G

No, it's not based on the Bible.

D

Damn.

F

Just pivot to a different category.

G

It's fine.

F

You can stick with the pick.

D

No, because I don't think it's actually based on a Bible. It's not. Yeah. I like the Book of Eli, man. Like, the Book of Eli is one of those movies that when I walked out of it, I was like, yo, that shit was crazy. And my boys was like, you being serious right now? He's like, you. I thought it was.

C

I loved it was your MacGruber.

D

It's my MacGruber. A lot of people like MacGruber, but I liked the Book of Eli. I thought it was a weirdly serious movie with great actors and the girl from that 70s show. They had Mila Kunis. Mila Kunis, Yeah. You have. You have Gary Oldman. Gary Oldman and Denzel Washington in the movie. In a post apocalyptic movie about a blind man who's trying to get a Bible to the West Coast. I like it. I watch it every time.

C

And he has a dog, right in that movie.

D

I don't think he has a dog.

B

Or is.

E

He might think you're thinking of I am Legend.

D

Yeah, I don't think he does have a dog.

F

Boy. Brutal.

A

There's an incredible vanism that I've come to understand very clearly.

D

What.

A

Which is every time you are asked your opinion of a movie and you go, I liked it. That means everybody else hated it. But you liked it.

C

I didn't hate it. I don't see how you can hate vocabulary.

B

Or you were like.

A

Most people are like, eh. And you've come to defend.

D

It's funny.

G

That's when. Hey, what'd you think of Masters of the Universe?

D

Loved it.

A

That isn't what you said after the screening.

D

It's not.

A

That isn't. You were like, I liked it.

G

I liked it.

D

So this is the. There are certain times with me where I just surrender to the narrative of a movie. And Book of Eli is. For some reason I just took the movie seriously. Everyone's dead. They fucking trading ketchup packets in a post apocalyptic town. And Gary Oldman wants to get a bible so he can control everybody's minds. I just thought, we don't want him to get the Bible. I love the movie, so I'm taking it. Only movies I like.

A

Wonderful pick.

F

I'm gonna share a very quick story for. For Van's appreciation and benefit, my husband Adam knew this draft was today. He knew the year. And when Joanna and I finished a podcast this morning, I looked at my phone and I had a text from Adam and it said this. Just want to make one last pitch. He had not made a previous one for a couple movies. I really love the Book of Eli and Tron legacy.

D

This is why.

B

This is why.

D

He is my motherfucker.

C

Yes.

D

This is why. This is why. By the way, I know that y' all not gonna draft Tron. I'mma take that.

C

Like, I'm gonna be so sure.

D

Like, I'm telling you, this is why he's my guy.

A

I'm gonna have to take based on how these categories are shaping.

D

I know.

F

God, it's getting thin.

A

Okay, Book of Eli, off the board. C.R. you're up.

C

All right. Do you want to talk about the possible Trade.

F

Are you guys really going to do this? Trade.

C

Let's at least talk. Let's talk it out.

F

So.

C

So Shutter island for Inception. What do I have to do to sweeten it? Since you took Inception. Second.

F

You have to flip.

G

Wow.

F

You have to flip your order in like multiple rounds. Second overall pick is.

A

What?

D

What if.

C

I'm asking him.

D

What if you're not talk to a lady like that. You don't speak to her like that. Are you crazy?

E

Why?

B

You can't be.

C

However I want

D

100%

F

like that.

A

You've become a little too familiar on this show.

D

Don't talk to my sister that way.

A

I'm not gonna. Let's just discuss this idea. I'm not. This isn't a pure offer. Animal Kingdom and Inception for Shutter Island And Unstoppable. Straight up.

C

And can I move the categories that they were drafted in? So I have to take Animal Kingdom and Optimize And I would have to take Inception in original or in Blockbuster.

B

Is that clean? Do you have.

C

So you just want to go two for two? Basically Our drafts against one another.

F

But you're first and second for his first and third. Because he has a higher overall first. Interesting.

B

I don't think we've ever.

E

Not since I've been here.

C

Wow. What's that?

B

I don't think we've ever successfully traded because there's too much spite now.

A

We don't have to do it now. We can wait to see how the rest of the draft shakes out.

C

I'm just surprised we don't want it.

B

I actually don't think that. That you do have to do it now.

C

I think this is just you and me. This is all noise.

A

It's just based on what I invented. The rules of this game.

B

Yeah.

D

I've never seen this side of Chris before. I've never seen this side of Chris

A

speak to her that way.

E

Chris are shouting down every woman on this.

D

Quiet. The man are talking specifically right now.

F

I.

C

Don't. Tell me. Don't talk to.

G

There's.

F

There's a draft card. The value of each picks.

C

So much space for Mal to. To. To just.

F

I support you endlessly. The picks can't just be swapped. There has to be value elsewhere. That's all I.

C

She's going to do. She's going to be the gatekeeper. Dungeon Master. Key master.

F

Not at all.

C

I think trainers are very interesting. I'm telling you. I don't know how interested I am in doing full scale swaps. For as. For as jealous as I am about Animal Kingdom. Y. I think.

A

And you love Inception.

C

Shutter for Inception. And would.

E

That's a bad.

A

That's not a good value.

D

You trade Inception for Shutter Island.

A

I could have just taken Shutter Island. That doesn't make sense.

D

Pick swap is.

A

Oh, pick swap.

C

Yeah.

G

Oh, Mallory likes that less.

A

Oh, well, there's not as much value here at this point.

E

What about future draft capital?

D

Yeah.

A

Inception for Shutter island and a pick swap. At this point in round four or

C

the next time I get the number one pick, I automatically give it to you.

A

No, we're not doing future swaps. That's not eligible.

D

I think that's awesome that now we have a little. Now we got something cooking. I think, Sean, it will be so awesome if in the next draw draft, like, I held your number one from. From Sean, that now we're having fun.

A

But then it makes the unpredetermined draft order a little bit more challenging. I. I don't want to go into the future. I want to stick in this draft. I want to. I want to do it like Leon Rose does it. You know, player for player.

C

Yeah.

A

How do we get OG here?

E

He gave up five picks from Mikhail Bridges.

C

Financial doping based on secret payments made to Rick Brunson. Right.

A

No, I mean Pablo.

B

Oh, that happened. Oh, dear.

G

Okay.

C

It's food for thought. It's food for thought. And you know what? I just want to say I love you. And anytime you want to chime in

F

a lot of feedback from other people with no commentary from you on their responses, just observe with interest.

C

I'm going to take Jackass 3D in comedy.

D

That's a great fun.

C

The other night, as I was preparing for this incredible draft, I. My wife heard me crying with laughter, and she said, husband.

G

And you're like, I'm watching somewhere.

C

Husband. What is. And I said, wife. I am watching Bam Margera fall through the floor into a pit of plastic snakes. And when he tries to climb out of this hole, a guy comes and starts dumping real snakes on him. And Bam Margera has a full scale panic attack and starts crying.

A

Great news. You're sitting on top of a trap door. And below you.

C

That's the next level for all of our pods.

F

I know.

B

It's.

C

Do you think that Amanda would react well if we did the giant hand hitting her?

E

How do we not have that in the office already? Or the hall of Tasers? One of the two.

C

I know. Seriously, this. This movie also features.

B

Are you afraid of snakes?

C

I've never tested that theory.

B

How would you do.

C

I don't find them scary.

B

Do you like it when someone brings a snake out as like.

C

Gotta admit that's never happened.

F

Like a snake handling out the photo

B

of Alice meeting the snake.

G

Yeah.

B

Oh, she. So at our preschool end of year event last week, the. The. The preschool family keeps some snakes and they show up late at the event every year.

C

Friday.

B

I love.

A

I held a snake on Friday.

G

We had snakes as classroom pets growing up.

B

Yeah, I saw these are bigger snakes.

G

Oh, I just.

B

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're like. They're sort of like Britney Spears reminiscent.

F

You know, like the season three.

C

I think Raiders of the Lost Ark actually did a lot of damage. Worked against snakes. Yeah. And anyway, this film also features Chris Pontius tying his penis to a remote control helicopter and Knoxville bullfighting while wearing camouflage.

A

My favorite piece of content from 2026 is Knoxville being interviewed and very sincerely talking about his relationship with bulls and how he's no longer allowed to be near bulls because he loves them so much and loves the potentiality of being gored by them. So to protect his mind, he can't go in the ring anymore.

C

Yeah.

D

What's wrong with those guys?

E

They have a lot of problems.

D

They're just saying like. What I'm saying is, like, obviously they made. But like they are really.

C

So many of them are quite broken.

A

They're great artists.

C

Their bodies are.

E

And they do it for us.

F

A lot of cte.

D

No, they are.

B

But like, I forgot about the helicopter penis.

A

So underrated.

E

You're talking about one of the co stars of Somewhere Not a comedy.

A

That's exactly right.

D

This is what I'm saying.

A

What a year to Paul.

C

He apexed this year, so I'll take Jackass. So it goes to Joy.

D

Party boy is funny man.

A

Okay, so you have another pick or.

C

No, no, it goes to Joanna too.

A

Oh, I'm sorry.

F

Five people have taken comedies already. Sheesh. Not Rob, though.

A

Great comedy year.

C

He tried to take it in.

F

Subordinate.

C

They took it away from me.

B

It did.

F

Denied.

C

Joanna Robinson in original.

G

This is a question I have in an original.

A

Uh.

F

Oh.

G

I like to take the comedy easy. A.

B

No, absolutely not Scarlet Letter. It's not Scarlet Letter.

G

It's not, but it's.

B

You're right, sorry. Inspired by.

G

That's why I asked at the beginning. It's not the Scarlet Letter. I think Scarlet Letter is referenced in the.

F

I think they say too much that that's like connected text.

G

It's not based on the Scarlet Letter. It's not. Because you can take it as your

F

father the priest take it as your comedy.

G

It's not the story of the Scarlet Letter at all.

A

All it is.

B

It is.

E

It's iterative of the Scarlet Letter and that's also.

B

And that's like sets Will Gluck's whole career of just updating stuff until I hear you.

A

You've mounted a very reasonable defense once again. Look at the Wikipedia and see how quickly the Scarlet Letter is mentioned. There it is like.

D

Let's look at it right now.

A

The movie does not exist without the Scarlet Letter.

D

Partially inspired by the 1850 novel.

F

Very Wikipedia centric as well.

C

Scarlet Popper.

E

Pimper.

B

Scarlet Pimpernel.

A

I love him, I'm sorry to say.

C

So you're going to put it in comedy?

F

You get your comedy. Yeah. It's a great pick here.

G

I'm just going to think about it. Okay.

D

I don't want to do it now. You don't want to.

A

Chris can speak more about his penis if you'd like.

E

Yeah, I would, frankly.

F

I would like do the sound again.

A

You did ask me this. Or yesterday.

F

No, did not. But I love that movie.

B

Incredible Emma Stone performance. It is incredible. It's also eligible an Oscar.

G

Yeah.

B

For that reason.

G

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

B

All right, listen. We're trying to support you while enforcing safe boundaries, you know, which is.