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I'm Sean Fenesty.
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I'm Amanda Dobbins.
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And this is the Big Picture, a conversation show about auctioning. Chris Ryan sits between us.
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It's a big bowl of beer.
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There's no auctioning that goes on here.
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Jack is like, list. The clock is back up on the display.
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The clock will be up. We've done one auction this year.
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Got a hot lunch date back there. Who cares about the clock?
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You wanna hear Jack doing the bidding, accepting the bids in real time?
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It would be fun.
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Well, okay, maybe we'll explore that for 2027. But this is 2026. This is part two of our movie auction. And we're gonna start selecting movies right after this. This episode of the Big Picture is presented by Amazon Prime. One of the best things about streaming is that you never just pick a title, you pick a feeling. And prime makes that easy. With great entertainment and fast shipping that brings the moment to life. Prime helps you experience the feeling you're craving shows you can't wait for and deliveries you don't wait for. One click away from streaming to fast shipping. It's on Prime. Okay, we're back. Now, this is relevant to what we're going to discuss here on this auction episode since we're at the halfway mark of the year, but. Anybody watch the werewolf trailer?
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Yeah, I watched part of it and I knew we were gonna talk about it, but it's a real. It's important to me to know when things are for me and when things are not for me and things are for you and meaningful to you.
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So delete your name from the episode. You go with it right now on the schedule for December 24th.
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But you know that that's the NCR
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arm and RM on Christmas.
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You, me, and Rob as the monster. I think so, yeah.
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Monster tribe, I think. Top five werewolf movies done deal. You know, like that episode writes itself. The film Robert Eggers adaptation of the werewolf story. The trailer looks shockingly similar to the Nosferatu trailer.
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Yes.
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Now, is that a good thing or a bad thing? Because that movie is a big hit, very well reviewed, but looks iterative.
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And as someone who did actually both see Nosferatu and listened to your episode with Rob Mahoney, the villain of the Big Picture, three and a half years running, you guys walked out of it admiring but not enthusiastic at various levels. Yeah, there was a distance from. From Nosferatu. So to then remake a thing that you already felt at a remove from. I don't know. How are you feeling?
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Can I. I'll jump in and say, not to paraphrase myself from that podcast, but we discussed whether or not Eggers was Wes Anderson ing, at least in terms of the perception of him as a filmmaker that, like, he a like to work in these little dioramas. But I would say even in the marketing of his films, perhaps is now leaning into a if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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Kind of don't change it, don't cure this were man. Yeah, don't let him be a demon.
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You guys want me to dig into another classic monster?
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I did, yeah. I noted on a text chain though, of which Chris is a part of this morning, that, like, it did feel to me like the Witch, the Lighthouse and the Northrend was like a progression. Different kinds of movies, similar register, but some funnier than others, some in different time periods, some with different emotional construction. Nosferatu felt a little more like the Witch. The Werewolf looks a lot like Nosferatu.
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Yeah.
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So, you know, it's just the trailer we don't know, but Nosferatu is such a big hit that it does make sense to just try to run it back. Aaron Taylor Johnson is back. He was one of the stars of Nosferatu. Willem Dafoe, of course, is in it. He's in every movie that Eggers makes. I'm generally a big fan of Eggers. He's been on the show like nine times, absolutely miserable every time he speaks to me and I look forward to the film.
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Miserable because he doesn't want to be a part of the promotion process?
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No, because I'm just like, rob, tell me in your heart, what are the thematic core elements of Nosferatu's job here
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was to recreate, what is it, 15th century English or whatever he's doing, Much like Wes Anderson, where I think everybody looks like another father Wes Anderson movie. And then five years later, like, actually this one had a lot of pathos. It's like, I wonder if that will start to happen for Eggerns movies.
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I think it's. I think that's insightful.
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Yeah, I think it will.
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Yeah, I think that's insightful. The movies are obviously incredibly well made and beautiful and the sound design and the score and the costumes, production design, everything he does in that respect is top, top shelf.
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He's doing his thing in, like, in his room with his toys and does it very well. And then to your. As you said, Nosferatu did extremely well at the box office. So, like, if it's not broken, do not fix it. I get it.
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I just Put that on the poster
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and I shall see it. For professional reasons, but, you know, is it.
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If you shan't, you shan't, you know.
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So, yeah, you're channeling the werewolf's English there.
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Yeah.
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Okay, nice.
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Did you have to do Beowulf in Old English? In Old English.
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No, I don't.
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Middle English. Sorry. Middle English. Oh, my God, please don't. The academics don't come for me.
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That's what you think is going to incite response?
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Okay, I bring that up because I'm curious if werewolf will get picked up in this movie auction today. We are. You want to look back at the slate? Do you want to address your outstanding concerns? Can I.
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When is this episode coming out?
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July 2nd.
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Can I just say a trailer that I did think rocked. Yeah, the. Wait.
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Oh, Ethan Hawke.
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Yeah, the Ethan Hawke Russell Crowe movie.
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Yeah, yeah, sure. I have a link to that film right now.
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That looks like Treasure of Sierra Madre. That looks awesome.
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It was a Sundance film and got very nice reviews out of Sundance. So you're saying you like the idea of an adventure movie starring Ethan Hawk? Yeah. Hard to believe. I mean. Well, don't spoil what you. You may want to grab that one. You may want to acquire it.
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This is. This brings up a really great point, Sean. I think you did a wonderful job adding triggers and, like, you know, a different layer of texture to this auction this year, but nothing.
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I think you did isolate that. How would you describe the modulation and your tone of voice? Just there.
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Deep respect for a fellow podcaster and friend.
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Sure. Yeah.
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I'll give him a kidney right now.
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Fellow podcaster first, friend second.
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Of course, it did change the texture of the films that I'm considering drafting because I have things I need. I gotta do some stuff.
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That is true. Do you have any general thoughts on the first half of the movie year and how you both grabbed films? Because we didn't grab too many movies that have come out already, which I find kind of fascinating.
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I was an idiot. I think I could have. Well, I think I could have chronologically broken the year up a lot more, but then I guess it's dependent on you two as well. Yeah, but I have a lot to. I still have a. Like, I have three films that need to, like, perform basically in the second half of the year.
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What do you think?
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Well, of my feelings or of the. I guess I think I did okay. And even the choices that I made that are sort of cringeworthy to myself and to myself, you know, identity are going to work out. For example, I got the Mandalorian and Grogu for $19. Is anyone happy with what happened there? No. But did it meet the box office threshold? It did. So I'm good. And now I can get a little frisky.
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Yeah. There are upsides and downsides to that. If you've never listened to an auction episode before. Welcome. This is an odd one to start with. I would encourage you to go back to January maybe and listen to the first one that we did. But we each attempt to acquire five titles and we have $1,000 to spend on those five titles, which is an arbitrary number. That makes a lot of sense when you really think about it. That's for the first half. And then the second half.
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I don't know if I've yet to spend $1,000 correctly.
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Well. And the money does not roll over. Or did we decide last time that it could roll over?
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It doesn't.
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The money does not roll over.
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And that's notable savings for taxpayers.
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Okay.
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That's right. Cr Amanda spent $1,000 last January. I spent $1,000. And Chris somehow has $679 remaining, which will now be dispersed to the masses of this fine country.
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Happy birthday, guys.
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I'll explain those triggers really quickly first.
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And those are new. Just if people are.
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We did them last year, I think as well.
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Yeah.
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2025ish is when they came on board.
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But if people are going to start at the beginning of the auction history, things were a lot looser, a lot crazier. You really. You soared so close to the sun and it was beautiful.
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A format close to my heart.
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Yeah.
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Because it's all speculative and it's all. It's all about betting on the future.
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I'm gambling again. 30 seconds per bid. Which we never abide by. But we'll try to do that today. Movies that were previously auctioned off last year are once again eligible for future auctions. So if your movie. If you grabbed a movie last year, you can grab it again this year if it hasn't been yet taken. The category triggers are at least two films from the total slate of 10 films across the whole year must gross $100 million domestically. At least one film must receive at least two Oscar nominations. And at least one of your films must hit an 85 Metacritic score. Now, that's very hard to do. Only 13 films released in 2025 did that. No more than two sequels on your slate. And that is where taking something like the Mandalorian and Grogu is a very strategic choice with Upsides and downsides. You're almost assured $100 million domestically, but then a sequel is off the board for you. Now you've only got one left. So let's go through our slates from January. Quickly, Amanda, since you already teased one, why don't you go through yours?
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So I have dune part three, which I paid 770. $775. Sorry, I guess I forgot numbers for a minute there. That was my disclosure day project. Hail Mary for $200. Thank you. Thanks. It was, you know, that was late breaking, but thank you. The social reckoning for $1, which. Which means that you guys were just like. You left me hanging. And that's fine. I deserve it. Verity, $5. And Mandalorian and Grogu for $19.
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Okay, so so far you've hit what? What? Did you get any Metacritic?
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No, none of us have Metacritic yet.
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So you do yours and then we'll do through all the thresholds we've hit already.
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Oh, okay. I picked Wuthering Heights for $75 and also talked about my experiences romantically.
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You did? And how many land acknowledgements have you given since?
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Oh, is that what that was? Okay, I've forgotten.
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Just count it down for us.
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I tend to.
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Let's go night by night.
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Go to your journal. I tend to. Once I've done one somewhere like, Southern California is blessed.
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Do you know what I mean? Oh, you're going regionally.
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I'm looking forward. I'm possibly going to Florida in September and I can't wait to commune with my Seminole brothers, you know?
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Like you've never spread your seed in that part of the land.
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Think really carefully.
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That's really a good question. I think I actually have.
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No kidding.
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Okay.
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Yeah, yeah.
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When was that?
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Florida.
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I was young.
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I was a young kid, like six, seven.
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What are we talking here?
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Jesus, Sean, you said young.
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I was younger. I'm almost 50.
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Wow.
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Okay. Are you listening?
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Florida's a yes for. Yeah.
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What are we doing for five of them?
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No one's paying attention to me.
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A couple of yes, couple ideas.
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Miami, the Raleigh Hotel. It was a great time.
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London was in the mix for 5o. Bacchanalian dance party is in the mix.
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Where would that take place?
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Los Angeles.
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I thought we were doing London.
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I'd like to go to London for my 50th. Yeah, okay. I'd like to join my.
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I'm like. I'm trying to get side of the point where he could fly.
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You know, I thought maybe, like, you were like.
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No, just hit three so. Or I guess I could get a babysitter.
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Yeah, we. We could talk it out.
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Okay.
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I think Knox would like it so much, though. You got him so much London stuff now he knows all the. He wants to go see Big Ben, you know, It's.
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Amanda invited.
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You're the only person.
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Just me and you.
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I got Wuthering Heights, Resident Evil I took for $72, Devil Wears prodded two for $26, the Adventures of Cliff Booth for $76, and Disclosure Day for $72. I think you're $679 million.
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I think your slate is fascinating.
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It was interesting.
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My slate is a bit more lopsided financially. I got The Odyssey for $926. I won't be doing that strategy again. I'll just let you know right now. Toy story for $1, Narnia the Magician's Nephew for $18, which has now been punted to 2027 by Netflix. And I read the whole book for nothing, you know? Yeah, read the whole book because you
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think you're gonna forget everything by the time it comes out.
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Not ideal when you read it to a four year old and then you just gotta sit on your hands for a year and wait and.
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2027, like award season 2027?
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No, it's like February, March. I'm getting nervous. I'm good. Yeah, no, it's. It's. That was kind of buried because everyone was like, oh, wow, it's getting a full release and they're doing it. But yeah, it's like early April. It's. Alarm bells are going off.
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We can talk about this more over the next nine months, I guess, but Alice watched the lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe adaptation from the 2000s yesterday and enjoyed it. But it's weird. And the Narnia material, having read it, is very strange and obviously very Christian coded.
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2-12-27 in theaters April 2 on Netflix for Easter week.
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Easter weekend on Netflix, So you can
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celebrate as a part of your holy week.
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Yeah, well, we'll see where I'm at on my spiritual journey by then. I got digger for $5. Yeah, interesting gamble and jack of spades for $50. A movie that still does not yet have a release date.
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That's Joel Cohen.
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It's the Joel Cohen film, which I suspect will be a fall film festival movie, but we just don't know about that. Now you got Cliff Booth, which slid into that Greta Gerwig spot.
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Yeah.
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And it is opening on 1000 iMac screens, but I think only has a limited engagement.
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Are you surprised? There has not been a single whisper about like, man, it's really good.
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Cliff Booth.
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Yeah.
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It's been lock and key. I've not heard a single thing about it.
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Yeah.
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Not a single thing.
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Yeah. I mean, I would like to see it. I would like to know more. It seems like it's not going to be at the Venice Film Festival, even though Netflix has. Yeah.
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What makes you say that? Was there a report?
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Yeah, the most recent reports are that it was. It's not on the list. And then. But the Denzel, Robert Pattinson, Here Comes the Flood. Yes. Here Comes the Flood will be one of the Netflix selections at Venice instead.
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But that movie is on the board. That's the movie I've been pointing to the most this year where I'm like, why is this movie going straight to Netflix?
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Is that five Pattinsons this year?
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I believe so. And it'll be the drama, the Odyssey, Odd Time, Dune Part three, primetime, and Here Comes the Flood. Quite a year from the guy. Quite a year from the guy. So threshold check in sequel. I've got one.
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Okay.
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Which was Toy Story 5. Amanda's got two. So you're capped out.
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Yep.
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Chris has got two. You're capped out. Now you took Dune Part 3 and the Mandalorian and Grogu, both of which are going to cross the $100 million threshold. So wise choices on your part. If Dune Part 3 doesn't cross $100 million domestically, we've got big problems. C.R. you've got Cliff Booth and Devil Wars Prada 2. Now Devil Wars Prada 2, huge hit.
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Yeah.
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Cliff Booth gonna be tough to get to 100. Gonna be real tough.
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So Disclosure Day is currently at, I believe, $94.8 million domestic box office. And I would like to say this.
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Yeah.
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I personally guarantee it's $100 million if no one goes to see Disclosure Day for the rest of its theatrical run. I will guarantee it. That will wipe me out. I am assuring you that that will wipe me out.
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But I don't understand. So are you gonna go to a local AMC and donate $5 million on behalf of Disclosure Day? Is that something one can do?
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I don't know. I don't know. But like, did you know that Donald Trump could be president? Like, let's try.
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And those are similar acts, I would say, in terms of their life changing consequences.
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I'm not stopping Disclosure Day is what I'm saying. So I am going to be operating as if it has crossed the. It's going to make six more Million dollars, right?
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I believe so.
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Yeah. I think so. We didn't really get into where you are on the alien podcast on the. Because Van signed up immediately.
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I don't know that he's heard it, because he hasn't seen the film. Oh.
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Oh, you haven't seen the film.
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He probably didn't listen to that.
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I should probably do that for the
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monster, I was gonna say. So that's $14. Yeah. There you go.
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We're getting there.
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Steve,
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Sean is considering rededicating his life to the study of alien interactions.
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That isn't what was said.
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Okay.
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What was said was, in the event that this was revealed to be true.
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Okay.
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Which is one of the orienting ideas of the movie. I said I would transform this show into a show about aliens.
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The big picture.
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Yes.
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And what did she want to do?
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Well, I was surprised by that. I mean, that's always the answer. Do you think aliens like the beach not explored in Steven Spielberg's Disclosure Day?
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M. Night Shyamalan's aliens do not like the water. Yeah, right.
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We know that, but that's a different, you know, a race of aliens that we know.
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Did they get in the water in War with the Worlds now?
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I'm sure. Yeah. Because they're out on the boat.
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Oh, yeah. They're out on the ferry.
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And the ships come up from underneath the water. That's a very upsetting scene. Very traumatizing. You're avoiding Disclosure Day. Why?
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This is just fell right in the middle of a tremendous amount of travel and a tremendous amount of television for me, and I feel really bad about it, especially, like, when I keep knocking out things like Sheep Detective, which is just like.
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Did you like that?
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You know what? I found it quite pleasant to watch.
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It's great.
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Yeah.
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It wasn't unpleasant.
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Yeah. Those rams, they were pretty funny.
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Yeah.
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I feel bad, but I haven't seen it. I will.
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Which ram is more powerful? The ram that rams Jasper and Jackass best than Last or the rams from shadows?
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1000% team jackass in terms of the usage of rams in Cinema in 2026.
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Yeah.
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With respect to Sheep Detectives, which was
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quite nice, but I. I guess my. So, wait, do you want to do your triggers of what you did, or did you do them already?
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Well, for the $100 million threshold, you pointed out that you've already got one, and you're about to get a second. Almost certainly Disclosure day will cross $100 million.
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I. Given the way the winds are blowing, I think Resident Evil has a shot.
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It's absolutely Possible. Amanda has already got two on her slate because she also has Proud to Tell Mary, which was a very smart pickup. And I've got one right now, so I need to get one more Toy Story 5 soaring right past one.
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I just did the math, and you would need to See disclosure day 300,033 times in order to single handedly get it over the first.
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300,033 times.
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That's three three, three, three, three three.
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If anybody back behind the glass would like to do the math on how much time that would take.
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Mm.
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I would love to know how many hours. Yeah.
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Okay.
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I think it'd be long dead.
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Yeah.
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I would guess before you could clock. You haven't seen Disclosure Day once, you're gonna see it 25,000 times.
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Yeah.
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I wish you luck. Here's the sticky wicket. None of us have unlocked the Metacritz 85 score. This is always the hardest thing to do. However, I'm almost certainly gonna get $100 million threshold with the Odyssey, which means we'll all have that. You guys don't have a sequel to play with, but I still have a sequel to play with, but that's actually fine. Cause sequels very rarely hit that 85 threshold anyway. So we have a lot of open terrain here. So I think what this could be is what are you pumped about? What are you most excited about?
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Is that now that you're basically like, now we're in it for art. And that's what this whole thing is. Anyway, many people are saying, has anything gotten to 85 on Metacritic this year?
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Yes, but I don't know about any mainstream wide release.
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So, like blue heron get 85?
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I would guess it did. I would guess it did. Let's look it up right now. You guys can vamp while I look this up.
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The other complicating thing here is that a number of the films that are more likely to make it to 85 or above were screened at the Cannes Film Festival, which means that they are ineligible for two of the three people on this draft.
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So I'm gonna talk through that as well.
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You're gonna need. You're gonna. You've got some shortcuts.
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That's right.
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You have to make good decisions.
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I'll give you a quick list of films that have already crossed it, and this is very helpful for you in terms of your bidding here. Once Upon a Time in Harlem is a documentary that premiered at Sundance that Amanda and I saw at Cannes. Blue Heron, in fact, has a 92 right now. The next film with a 92 is Ross McElwee's remake. I don't know if you're familiar with him. Documentarian who famously explores his own life through these particular frameworks. And I watched this movie this weekend, and it is absolutely devastating. So I just want to recommend when it comes out in July, that people check out remake. It's a beautiful, really, really sad movie. Teenage sex and death at Camp Miasma. We've seen that. Not eligible to us.
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Oh, what. But what is.
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That's sitting at 91 right now.
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Oh, good.
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That's a little bit of a red herring because it's not wide release. And I do think that that number on that movie, because that movie, I think, is going to be a little more divisive and will come down a bit. Fatherland. We saw at Cannes Pavel Pawlikowski's new movie, Silent Friend, which is a movie starring Tony Leung that came out in April. Sound of Falling, which was a Cannes 2025 film. Magellan, which came out earlier this year. Pompeii. Below the Clouds. Our land epic. The Elvis Presley movie Blue Film, which I've not yet seen. My Father's Shadow. And coming in at number 15, the furious. The furious is sitting at 85, which I find to be fascinating. So 85 is a little trickier for us because Amanda and I have seen so many movies that we know are gonna be critically acclaimed. For example, Fjord or Paper Tiger.
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Sure, yeah.
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Or I've seen Joseph Eaton out of Sundance. So those are all off the table for us. In addition to the ones we just mentioned. How do you feel about. How much attention do you pay to festival chatter? Cause this is the first year, really ever, where a man and I get to be like, well, we saw the Cannes movies.
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That meant special. Bad for the auction. It's probably good for me. And I do pay attention to it because I think it's. I'm kind of fascinated by what's in it for the movies at this point, because it just feels like. I don't know if those festivals necessarily are making an impact outside of their bubble, but it does feel like if things go bad, it starts a snowball rolling downhill of Joker's a Turkey. Yeah, this is, you know, so it's. It feels like, to Amanda's point, about Cliff Booth's not going to be at Venice. I don't know if it's going to be in New York or whatever, but, like, why bother? You know? Like, why not just be like, yeah,
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one battle after another and sinners skipped festivals altogether. And that certainly didn't hurt them in the Oscar race.
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Yeah. I was thinking last night as a. And this is a completely self serving proposal, but like, maybe they should think about it. Someone should buy artificial and take it to Venice.
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Why?
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Why? Because all they have on their side now is noise. And this is not what you wanted to see. And like, and, and they have movie stars and they have a big premiere and this like.
C
Oh, I love this idea. I'm unfortunately a little cash poor because I have a note against my holdings.
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You're down 5.2 million, unfortunately. So you can't chip in on this.
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Now let's.
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Let's try to unpack a little bit because you would like to see the film. I would like to see the film on the Lido.
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Yes. Well, I'd like to see the film. I'm a fan of the work of Luca Guadagnino and also free speech.
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Interesting.
C
Will you be as passionate about Jonah Hill's Cut off being released?
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Good point. Where's that film?
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Sure, I would like to see that also. Just making sure you know both sides.
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How many of your pods are considered unreleasable?
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Just one, one episode has never made it off the computer.
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I was on that one too.
C
Yeah.
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We shan't speak of it again.
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Okay.
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That's a lore drop for you with no lore. Okay, so you want to see it in Venice or you want to see it in general? But Venice would be nice.
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I feel like it's a good launch pad. Like Luca makes it, you know, it's a home base for him.
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Someone should do something.
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Italy's on. But. But let's just play it out. Let's say for the sake of this conversation that the film is not strong and not received well critically.
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Right.
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And a distributor has paid $30 million or $50 million to take the movie off of Amazon's hands. And then the movie does very poorly at the festival, to Chris's point. Is that dramatically worse for it? Because that it really. I think it wounded after the hunt, it getting a very poor reception in Venice.
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I do think that's true though. I think it also like they knew ahead of time, like it was not in competition, which is. Then you just shouldn't be going. You shouldn't do it. So I guess if Venice is not willing to put it in competition. But I, I think it's a win for everybody. And I do also think that unless the critics are going to be. I think critics will probably be softer to this movie given the history and given the fact that it got pulled because of corporate reasons rather than any artistic reasons, and would be willing to forgive at faults that maybe they were not willing to forgive. And after the hunt, also, just for the record, you know, after the hunt, they just left us out in the rain for an hour in a thunderstorm, which, once again, I would encourage people to not do that. If you want a positive, critical reception, these things do matter. And also, I liked what I saw in Venice. It was when I saw the end that I maxed out.
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I.
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It. It just seems like they don't have a lot of good options, and that could be a funny one. And I do think that making a spectacle and leaning into this was, like, canceled from you and taken from you is the only way to get it off the ground.
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Okay, I agree.
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That's. That's just my pitch, but you won't
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be contributing to the fund.
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I'm just stretched in right now.
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Understandable. Any other thoughts? I mean, you know, 85 is going to be tough to hit, but, you know, you know that there are some titles out there that are critically acclaimed.
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There's pretty obvious layups there. And I also still will be auctioning from the heart. There's a couple of that's Beautiful that no one has seen yet that I am still a big believer in, and also for the sake of the auction, would love to get them out in open competition.
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Okay.
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I think it's safe to say that Amanda and I will already have the two Oscar nominations locked up between the Odyssey and Project Hail Mary and probably Dune Part three as well. I'm not sure if I can say the same yet for your slate.
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Do you think that Emily Blunt will be nominated for Disclosure Day?
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I think it's possible.
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I would really like for it to happen.
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I think the movie has a very mixed reception.
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Does she almost universally appear?
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She does not have a mixed reception, but it is a June movie. And you got to consider that Universal will probably be putting most of its energies behind the Odyssey when it comes to this sort of thing. I would encourage them to. I think people. People really like Emily Blunt. It's very obvious that she is very liked within the industry. She's very liked. She has fans. She's made not very many good movies in the last 10 years, and it doesn't really matter. She's having a huge year because devil wears Prada 2 is also massive. I think it'd be wise to, but it's not a guarantee.
C
She got nominated for Smashing Machine.
A
She did not.
C
She did not.
B
Yeah. But I do think also they can Sit tight for a while. Get through the Odyssey. And that's just a very classic. Put her back on the trail in October, November. People love to see her. It is a really good performance, you know, and it could also. She could be in Best Actress. And Odyssey is probably going to have only Supporting actress nominations when you're thinking about it in terms of the way they're putting things together. So there's a. Lane, it's interesting.
A
I mean, we're. We're. Obviously, I already have the movie on my slate, but we're having this conversation before having seen the Odyssey, and hopefully we'll see it soon. But I think that dictates a lot of the thresholds and a lot of the expectations for the rest of the year.
C
I do not anticipate Cliff Booth being an Oscar movie. I don't anticipate Resident Evil getting the weapons bump. It seems far more gory, but who knows?
A
Makeup.
C
Oh, there you go, bro.
A
Makeup is in play.
C
Do they have an intimacy coordinator? Oscar. Gotta get that for Wuthering Heights.
A
Do you think they did a good job?
C
I didn't see Wuthering Heights.
B
Did you not?
C
I just didn't. Yeah. I'm sorry. My wife didn't. She was like, I don't think you'd like it that much. I will see it, by the way. The end of the year.
A
Yeah, it's at home on hbo. Max.
C
I like going to the movie theater. It's not that with you guys.
A
Because. Written and directed by a woman. Is that the issue? No, no, no. What if I zagged on Wuthering Heights? What if I went back to it and I found something in it? That's for me?
B
That would be great. We welcome you with Open Arts.
A
I'll rewatch it.
B
Okay.
A
Emerald Fennel. I'm trying to figure it out.
B
We know. We've heard it.
A
I like that it exists.
C
What is she doing next?
A
Yeah.
C
Something crazy, right?
B
Yes. Oh, my God. What is it? Emerald Fennel. What's she doing next?
A
Transformers.
B
Honestly, I would like to see you deal with that. And I feel like they would have some pretty close.
A
Yeah, I mean, the Autobots and Decepticons fucking. I would be really intrigued by that next movie.
B
Did you find it?
C
There were rumors of a Basic Instinct
A
reboot, but she shot them down. Not totally sure.
C
Okay.
B
Okay.
C
Well, whatever she does, I'm sure it'll be.
B
She says no.
C
Received with an open mind.
A
Any. Any thoughts before we get into the auction?
C
No.
A
You ready to do it?
C
Yeah.
B
Yeah.
A
Do you have any procedural thoughts? About how we've been doing these over the last four years.
B
I honestly can't remember what. Because they do. They've evolved, and there are new kind of rules. And I didn't remember that we did the clock in January.
C
We tried. There was a lot of like, oh, I'll bid $1 so that I can keep prattling on.
B
Well, yeah, but that's part of the fun.
C
Yeah.
A
These are always great to do when I haven't seen you over a weekend. So we haven't run through any of our stuff. You know what I mean?
B
No, I'm looking forward to that. I said to you guys off mic, it was a weekend of extremes, and I'm just. I'm glad to be back with my
A
bros. Let's mix it up.
B
Okay.
A
How do we determine who goes first? Here we go. Shaking up the Dungeons and Dragons die. For the record, Chris Ryan would need to spend 92 years to get that disp. Disclosure day money.
B
You know what that is producing. Thank you, guys.
A
Well done.
C
Should this be what starts me down? My wellness journey of prolonging my.
B
How is your wellness journey going? What? What. But, like, what are the focuses these days? This is. This is my reaction. Yeah.
A
Chris Ryan is selecting first. Sean Feny second, Amanda third.
B
Okay, so interesting. Do you want to think about what you're doing or do you want to tell me about your macros?
C
I'm trying to live as healthily but also as happily as I can.
B
That's. It's important to have balance. So just kind of like a blue zone diet.
C
I think what's hard about weightlifting is you have to be consistent with it. And I've been traveling a lot.
B
Okay.
C
And so being consistent with my lifting has been difficult.
B
You don't go to the hotel gym?
C
Well, I.
B
Do you want to come to the hotel gym with me in Toronto?
A
Oh, God.
C
In some ways, I think that that would give me incredible insight into who you are.
B
We could do one of the videos together.
C
Would I be spotting you?
B
No. You would do it too. You would also do it, like, exactly what you do. Yes. We would follow a video and then,
A
you know, I'd like to see that happen again
C
anyway.
B
Okay.
C
Yeah, it's going okay.
B
Okay.
C
But, like, you go to Chicago for three days and you're like, I'm dying. It's just you leave the little kaleb cocoon here, and you see how the other half lives, and you're like, God damn, these people are so much happier.
B
But I do body weight rushes.
C
Before I ate an Entire loaf of bread. My first film that I'm gonna put up for auction. And I'm doing this because I want to get everybody involved.
B
Okay. What?
C
Such an elegant communicator is Tony Gilroy's Behemoth.
A
Okay. Okay.
C
Does not have a date as of yet, but it's going to Venice, right?
B
Is it Behemoth? Venice Film Festival. Let's see.
A
It feels like a Telluride movie to me.
C
I think it's going to be at festivals. This stars Pedro Pascal and Will Arnett, who both replaced, at various points, Oscar Isaac and David Harbour, respectively, as well as Olivia Wilde. It's about a cellist who plays in orchestras for film soundtracks for film scores. Tony Gilroy's first film theatrical feature that he's directing since the Bourne Legacy, but I think also notably, obviously, Michael Clayton. It's his first work since Andor, and it feels like an incredibly personal and idiot syncretic expression of interest in the cinematic arts, but also a guy at a crossroads. I'm really, really, really excited for it. The most notable thing to know about this is apparently nine composers worked on this film.
A
I'm looking at that right now. Among them, James Newton Howard and Alan Silvestri, two of the more seasoned and accomplished composers.
C
So let me ask you this, Sean, as I bid 30 bucks for this to start with, let me ask you
B
this on the time. Wow.
C
When you get a best original score nomination, do you think having that many different people working on it makes it more complicated, or do you think it's like a layup that this gets a nom $50?
A
I think it depends on how good the movie is. I think if the movie doesn't work at all and then you won't have to consider very much. But if it's well reviewed and you've got all of these people that are so renowned, it makes it easier. And then they'll just cut that puppy into nine ways. Right.
C
I know that casting will be like a big deal when we get to this office.
A
$70. This is number two on my list.
C
So I could see the duel of the Fates here.
B
Could be 75.
C
I'll do 90. I could see this being a nice plank for them to be like, let's talk about what an amazing contribution composers have made to cinematic history and to Hollywood at the Oscars, I think.
B
But then you also have John Williams eligible in the same category. So I'm still alive.
C
So you're going to give it to Iron Sharpens Iron.
B
Okay.
A
That could be your second Oscar nomination.
B
What's going on in House of Dragon.
C
1151-151201-30135, 140.
B
Do you want to come to Venice?
C
I won't be able to come to Venice. I'm sorry.
B
Sad.
A
What are you doing? What do you got going on that week?
C
I think I'm potting with you while she's gone and we're talking about Resident Evil for five straight episodes.
B
No, you're suing on that.
A
I'll be a Telluride. But you are joining me for quite a long time in August when she goes away.
C
Thank you, guys. Let me have my own episode of the Big Picture.
A
If you want one of those August episodes, you can take it straight to
C
Cameron, straight to Jack.
B
What are you going to do?
C
Wuthering heights. Rewatchable. Solo.
A
150. Honestly, if you want to grab an August release and you want to put your arms around it and put the CR touch on it, I would be delighted.
C
Isn't the Dog Stars perfect?
A
Michael Mann.
B
But I'm back for that.
A
That's the Scott. Sorry.
B
And listen, that's Ridley. And that's my guy.
A
Yeah. Jacob Elordi and Ridley. He's very tall. We're gonna have to rank every Ridley180. We've never done that before.
C
It would be fun if we ranked every Jacob Elordi performance. Did you watch any of Euphoria?
B
No, no. But the important parts got to me.
A
You know, Behemoth. I just. I'll be stunned if it's bad. Stunned.
B
I know there is like a little bit duplicity exists, right?
A
Yeah. But it's not, you know, my duplicity.
C
He's in the pocket for this.
B
Go ahead.
A
That's a movie that if you do it ten times then nine other times it's better than what we got.
B
Because that's my take. We've agreed on that. Because they were like, what movie do you want? One of the mailbag questions was like, what movie would you redo? And I was like, change nothing. Just try it again. I believe you're right. Guys.
A
That's your take. That's a great take.
C
200.
B
210.
A
This is a Searchlight movie. Searchlight famously did not have a film nominated for best picture last year.
C
230.
A
It broke a 14 year streak. I believe for the studio. They're betting big on this. But as you say, the movie does not have a release date. I believe production is completed.
C
Yes, I saw that it screened. There was a test screening that was received positive feedback.
B
250.
C
From whom? Where did I read that?
A
No, who gave the positive feedback?
C
The test screening audience.
A
Was Trump there?
C
No, I think it was like a bunch of people in Covina who got to see it.
A
Okay, what's the number at right now?
B
250.
A
250 for Behemoth with an exclamation point. How do you feel about putting punctuation in a film title?
C
I'm into it. I think it's cool.
A
Whatever happened to Baby Jane? Question mark.
C
Well, certainly any film that's a question deserves a question mark, right?
A
Not always.
C
I mean, maybe Disclosure Day would have done even better if they had done it.
A
How do you know? Directed by James L. Shooks does not feature a question answer.
B
Right. And that worked out.
A
It's dangerous.
C
Do you think Ella McKay would have done better if they put an exclamation point?
A
Ella McKay in Tarobang? You know, that would have been something. That would have been a new move.
B
Airplane. Exclamation point.
A
260.
B
270. Mamma Mia. Exclamation point.
A
Oh, yeah, that's a good one.
C
285.
B
Oklahoma. Exclamation point.
A
That not a good film.
B
No, a really, really boring film. That thing you do. Exclamation point.
A
That's a great one.
B
30 years this year also. I gotta. Yeah.
A
Rewatchables.
B
Well, listen, I know you don't pitch things. We don't ask, you don't mention it.
A
Yeah, we don't ask.
B
You know, it's. You just keep your head down, you do the work, you hope that the sun shines next time you're around.
A
Bill, you should just hum that wonder song.
C
I'm about to win.
B
Oh, 290, 300.
A
Are we going a little crazy for Behemoth?
B
This is a Tony Gilbert podcast. Okay, you guys, you erased me from the andor conversation because I haven't seen it yet. That's fine. But
C
do you think you're.
B
Sorry. I was watching tele. I was watching movies for a movie podcast.
C
Make time to watch all of Andor at some point.
B
I'd really like to.
A
This movie also stars David Victor, Matthew Lillard and Margarita Levieva. And if you know who Margarita Leviev is, you know that's a special guest.
C
She's currently on Cape Fear.
B
On this podcast, we believe that Michael Clayton is an underrated legal thriller. I think I did Michael Tatum.
C
Shouldn't we have a sign like that?
B
No, but.
A
315.
B
320. Was it in New York where one of the Live shows. I drafted Michael Clayton and then did like the. In, you know, in this house we believe. And I guess it was New York, where they don't have that many yard signs. And people were like, what are you talking about? And then I had to explain to the entire crowd. So there's a thing with the yard signs, la content.
C
Is it 320 or 350?
A
It's 320.
C
I'll do 335.
A
If I'm able to book Tony Gilroy to appear on this podcast, do you have to be there with me?
C
No, I mean, Tony, would you like to be there? I think that the Ringer podcast network presents, like, so many different opportunities. 340Express different parts of themselves, you know? So, like, for instance, Taylor Sheridan went on Bill's pod last night.
A
How'd that feel?
C
That felt great. I thought that was two leaders talking about how they run organizations, you know,
A
and how would you describe their leadership styles?
C
Different.
A
No other adjectives.
C
I think that Bill is a little bit more accessible than Taylor.
A
Okay.
C
Yeah.
B
From what I can gather, What's Bill's macro strategy these days?
C
I think he walks in saunas.
B
Yeah, that's true.
C
And he doesn't eat.
B
I do know about those.
A
350.
B
The informant, exclamation point.
A
One of my favorites. Yeah, that's a great one.
C
375.
B
400.
A
Do we think the titular behemoth is the man, or is it the composition? Is it the artwork?
C
I wonder if it's the thing that he is currently scoring. Although I believe this goes to several different parts of his life.
A
Some phases in the storytelling I've heard edited by John Gilroy, his brother. Yep. You look at him closely so you can try to secure this one.
C
Oh, at a certain point, it's nut cutting time, you know?
A
Can you illuminate that metaphor for Amanda? She's learned more about the human body after jackass.
C
It's one of those things that's probably.
B
I have it. I have it. 32.
C
I would say, for the record, we
A
touched like 45 multiple times.
C
Touched 45 multiple times.
B
Keep it running.
A
Go 4, 10. Let's go.
C
I'll try and do nut cutting time for four. It's a sports phrase, but it's not a sports phrase. Okay, So I know it.
B
Why would you cut your nuts?
A
Well put.
C
I don't really know. It's like.
B
Is that what a. That's not what a vasectomy is, right? It is.425. But no, you're cutting the vast deferens in a vasectomy. That's like inside the nut. Okay. Yeah. Sorry. That I know what's up.
A
That's exactly right. Have you. Have you. Some might say you cut nuts on a regular basis. That's one of your. One of your skills.
C
4:35. 4:35.
B
Is there such a thing as a nut tuck?
A
Sure. Silence of the Lambs.
B
No, no, no, no, no. Like a plastic surgery procedure. 440.
C
Oh.
A
Like it lifted.
B
Yeah.
A
To avoid a bad grandpa situation.
B
To avoid a bad grandpa situation. Why are you looking at me like that? I don't know.
A
Just tighten it up.
B
Yeah. Maybe you don't want it hanging around. Maybe it's getting in the way.
C
Oh, I guess.
B
You guys. So that's not a thing that you guys are worried about.
A
It's like bringing the yo yo back.
C
Oh. Like Robert Evans.
A
Probably walk the dog and then roll it. 450. Robert Evans.
C
I was gonna say Robert Evans seems like the kind of guy who would have gotten a nut to get the nuts. May he rest in peace.
A
What do you know about.
C
It seems like very delicate.
B
It seems like very delicate skin.
C
Penis. Shaft construction.
A
I just said shaft construction. You extrapolated that out.
C
Okay. Cause we're talking about plastic surgery on the genitalia. We are?
B
Yeah.
C
Yeah.
A
Oh, we were talking about something else.
C
I never answered your question. It's like when somebody performs in the clutch. It's like, hey, man.
A
485.
C
It's time for you to go.
B
Okay.
C
But I. I don't think it's an appropriate phrase. And I would not use it in my personal life.
B
490.
C
500. 5.
B
10.
A
Is this the only movie that all three of us really want?
C
Stupid partners. Like, I can back off and let you guys have it and then I
B
can just take a dollar. What we learned last time.
A
Stay in the mix because there are no. There are no production stills. There's no trailer for this thing.
B
I'm not hanging with me today, and I don't know why.
C
I think your energy is throwing me off. But it's also, like, brilliant. Like, I can't. It's like I feel like I'm getting tanned, but I don't know why. Like, you're just radiating today normally.
B
Like, normally you're riding with me. Is it like my time change?
C
What time change?
B
Like we're later in the. Is it because you're on your second podcast?
C
Oh, no, no, no, no. I. You can't slow me down. No, I. I'm fine.
B
Okay.
A
Interesting.
B
550 560.
C
Did you think that we're gonna be up in the fives for Behemoth? For Tony Gilroy?
A
I'm really glad you started here.
B
This was good.
A
You brought a good energy. It's a movie we're excited about. But I was saying, there's no production still. There's no trailer. There's no release date. There's nothing. We don't know anything about this movie.
B
That is what we do here on the action. We believe, you know, it's a movie
C
by Tony Gilroy about the beauty of movie music. That's your shit.
A
We don't know if that's what it's about.
C
What do you get some out, I
B
don't know, Godzilla, the cure for baldness.
A
565.
B
That's what duplicity is about.
C
Oh, right, okay. Sorry.
A
Great idea. Great idea.
B
Yeah.
C
I was like, I took that personally.
A
Got to go back and look at duplicity. That's the very powerful corporate product that the espionage is working on.
B
Can we talk about Landon Donovan? I mean, I. I think I haven't had this conversation.
C
He's having a. He's going through a journey with his hair. And he's documented it. Yeah, he's got.
A
Documented it.
C
Yeah. He had, like, transplants that didn't take.
B
Okay.
C
Or plugs or something. And then this is a wig that he's wearing.
B
Okay. Yeah, this is a wig.
C
I mean, it looked like documented. He's like, this is a wig. I. I need to do this 75 to feel good.
B
That's good.
A
Really? Yeah. Honestly, I respect it.
B
I do, too.
C
Who gives a fuck? Any more than 580?
A
If it makes you feel better, just do it. Right.
B
Agree.
A
Not hurting anybody.
C
Yeah, I like hats.
A
I tell you what. He scored one of the most electrifying goals of all time. So he'll always have that against Algeria. I remember it vividly. I was sitting at my desk while I was working at Emusic, and everyone was pretending to work that day, and they were all watching the game on their computers, and everyone collectively stood up and shouted and was like, we do. This is the United Nations.
C
Klinsmann sliding out of the office is wonderful.
A
Chris, you're.
C
I'm going to. I'm. I'm. I'm going to do 590.
B
Okay. Stay in it.
C
I'm in it. I'm in it. Emotionally, I'm in it. I just. This is between the two of you. Economically, I could honestly go up to 995 and then I can get a Bunch of movies that you guys have already seen for like a dollar. Yeah, but that seems.
A
You got to get that. Yeah, you could do that. You could do that. You could do that. So maybe we should make you do that.
C
You can make me do it.
A
I'll go to 595. As I say this is.
B
I'll go to 600.
A
600.
C
Yeah. So what trigger do you think this is gonna cross?
B
Personal happiness, which you know is it's storyline that matters. I was excited about project Hail Mary and I liked it. I'm looking forward to Dune Part three, but like I said, my self respect. When I look at this, I wasn't painting entirely my picture. Yeah.
A
You want to love your slate. I know what you mean.
B
6:15.
A
My slate is a mess right now.
C
Pedro Pascal,
A
I have some questions.
C
Leading man.
A
I have some questions. Fantastic Four. The first steps. Was not it. That was not it.
C
You will be in Doomsday.
B
Was that his fault? Because that character is just like, I'm too smart to live.
A
I think there is an opportunity for a great Reed Richards. And he's miscast. I think he's very well then.
B
Also he's the last a girl and
C
he's the smartest guy in the world.
B
Yeah. But it's like I'm too smart for my own. I can't. If you're so smart, figure out how to manage it.
A
I relate to Reed Richards. Yeah, I bet you.it's just the burden of greatness, wouldn't you say?
C
Who just got this for 6:15 as we approach 40 seconds?
A
No one did.
B
Okay.
A
6:20.
B
625.
A
I think Amanda really wants it. So what are you gonna do with that?
C
650. Best and final.
B
655. We've done this before.
A
It's too early to do best and final. My man. At 650, that's nothing. That's peanuts.
B
Yeah.
C
For Behemoth, it's gonna probably get like an 80 metacritic. Not get nominated and make $12 million.
A
But there'll be lawn signs strewn throughout Los Angeles.
B
How many selfies I'm going to take outside the premiere and send to you like it's me on the Lido. So that's great.
C
Me and him will be podcasting about Resident Evil. It's bathed in blood.
A
660.
C
I'm out.
B
665.
C
I'm out.
A
Sure you are.
C
I rolled the ball down the hill.
B
Remember when he was in Triple Frontier? That was great, Pedro.
A
Yeah, he was good playing the fifth lead well.
B
But the Magic happened. Tim Simons recently watched Triple Frontier and then had the temerity to tell me that he didn't think it was good. I don't know whether he wanted that aired on a podcast.
C
He's a brave man and he goes with his own Netflix's.
A
Tim Simon said that.
B
I listened. Now I'm like, did I get him in trouble?
A
It's at 665. I've got it.
B
No, you don't.
A
What do you mean?
C
It would be really. Amanda has it.
B
See, the A.
C
A is for 665.
A
I didn't know that that's what that was for.
B
Okay.
A
670. I don't know.
B
Read the A I've been sending.
A
I can read, thank you. No, I'm able to read.
C
I had the lion, the Witch and the World.
B
Listen, I was doing it.
A
I'm read the Magician's Nephew.
B
It was more of a checking in on the cliff and the eyesight. 675 oh.
A
You know, actually it hit me last week. Yeah, Serious. I'm dead serious.
B
I'm asking you.
C
I know your context change.
A
I don't know. But I, I, I looked down at a phone after getting out of a movie and I was like, oh, no, it's over.
C
Do you know where I'm at? I have TV glasses which are different than these glasses that I use to watch tv because I can't have my looks so bad. Yeah.
A
Yeah. Because the tv, the TV shows, they look terrible. So you gotta put on special glasses to make them look better. Because they're TV.
C
Because they suck.
B
It's good.
C
Stop buying DVDs. If you keep talking like that.
A
You know you're only hurting yourself.
C
I have to wear different glasses to watch television.
B
I did actually get a separate prescription to wear over my contacts to help screens look like glass. Yeah. But then I didn't.685 and they're just to make. I mean, they're effectively reading glasses that go with my contacts because I have famously incredibly bad vision. But then they're. I actually need different. Most of the time when I'm reading, I'm not wearing my contacts. I'm wearing my glasses. So we didn't do it right. I gotta start over. But the cliff is real.
C
A for 685.
B
Though.
A
I.
B
Just to be clear, I'm not there yet. Yeah.
C
I'm out.
B
You're out. Okay. Well, it's. It's you and me. 77 15.
C
I think I feel like you want it more than me. And I love Tony Gilroy.
B
Well, I just.
A
I'm going to tell Tony this when he's on the show. I'm going to say Chris sat here. Your friend Chris Ryan sat here.
C
Anything about what? Just translated.
A
It doesn't matter. I'll explain the whole thing.
C
He read every book there is about revolution. And he would be like, what you guys are doing contributes nothing.
A
If I have to spend the entire 37 minutes allotted from Tony Gilroy's publicist explaining this movie auction, I will do.
C
And how I betrayed him.
A
Yes.
C
Okay.
A
If I can get to that bottom one.
C
Congratulations to you.
B
Thanks so much. Thank you.
A
Behemoth.
C
Yeah.
A
Sold to Amanda Dobbins for $715.
B
We should introduce a gavel. I don't know why I didn't think of that.
A
Can we get some sort of sonic effect?
C
You should punch. Damn, son.
A
I actually meant to talk to you. Chris, I need some stuff with you
B
in the near future.
A
We can get that going.
C
Some drops.
A
Damn, son. Where'd you find Behemoth? Okay.
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Damn, son. They replaced Oscar Isaac.
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Do you think sight unseen would have been better with Isaac over Pascal?
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I think Tony knows best.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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However that worked out, you just bent the knee even though you wouldn't take the film.
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I've done the work, man.
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You have? You have.
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I've shouted from every sidewalk. Have you heard the good news about Andor?
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You have. Okay, who do I put up next? Or Amanda. Sean is up next.
C
So I assume you're not going to be nominating films that you can't bid on. That doesn't make much sense.
A
No, that's verboten in this game. If you've seen the movie, you can't put the movie up for auction, nor
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can you bid on it.
A
I guess not. Because you can't win it. Right. So that takes some critical Oscar films off the board, I would say. I haven't seen, actually, at this time of the year. Usually I've seen at least a couple of the bigger releases. I haven't seen any of the bigger releases this year. I'm in the dark. So no toe dip screenings for me on any of this stuff. I'll tell you what I'm really excited about is prime time. Of course that's what I'm gonna put up.
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Okay.
A
Cause I might need some more Oscar nominations. I'm quite curious about how this movie will be received. This is the feature fictional debut from Lance Oppenheim, documentarian. And it is a. I guess it's a portrait of To Catch a Predator. And Chris Hansen.
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Chris Hansen. Yeah.
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Movie stars. Robert Pattinson sounds like it'll be the coup de grace in his year. Buzz is best actor awaits him. This nomination. We don't know anything. We've just seen a one minute teaser of this movie. That's it. A 24 movie coming out, I guess in the fall.
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Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but can you start getting nominated for multiple films? Like, can Robert Pattinson just be nominated for being good this year?
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No, I think you can be nominated in the same category twice. That's what the rule is now. So, for example, so Robert Pattinson could
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get nominated for the Odyssey and the drama as supporting actor.
A
Correct. That is the. That I believe that was the rule change. You can check me on that, Amanda.
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But yes, actors may be nominated for multiple performances in the same category if those performances place in the top five
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votes, which is something I'm not totally sure I realized couldn't happen before. But that is true.
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Now, is that now does that nomination then only take one slot?
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No, takes two slots.
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Oh, so it's like, I mean, it's like a Soderbergh directing thing. So it used to be allowed, or it has been allowed in directing, but I guess was not allowed in acting.
A
Was he nominated twice for Brockovich and Traffic?
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Traffic, yeah.
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Okay, interesting. I'll bid 10 bucks for this movie. I don't know a lot about this movie. I know Lance a little bit.
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He's doing another voice.
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He's doing Chris Hansen. Presumably. One of my favorite docs from last year was this movie Predators, which was a kind of an investigation of what To Catch a Predator was. And it'll be interesting to see how this movie stacks up to it.
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25.
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Oh, I'll say 35.
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Are you looking forward to this? Did you ever. Have you ever watched To Catch a Predator?
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I'm sure that I did at some point at an inappropriate age as a child when like the news, news magazines were big in our house, they were always on freaking me out. But I have not seen the documentary. I'm just, I'm an R. Pats fan forever and ever. Phoebe Bridgers is acting in this film.
A
Is that a fact?
B
According to the Wikipedia page.
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Damn. Phoebe Merritt Weaver's in this?
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Yeah.
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Skyler Gozzondo is in this.
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That's true.
A
Big fan.
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Jimmy Olsen just says that. Yeah, Phoebe Bridgers. Okay.
A
I mean, you know, let me have for 35 bucks, $50. Sperm World. Sperm World. Also an incredible movie.
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What's sperm world?
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It's Lance. 55 documentaries. All of Lance Oppenheim's documentaries are worth your time.
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I thought you were still talking about testicle plastic surgery.
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Left it Vague on purpose.
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65.
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There's part of me that thinks this is going to be at Telluride and there's part of me that thinks this is going into that. Marty, we're not even announcing it for New York Film Festival and could premiere there.
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Yeah, a 24 now has that spot, you think?
A
I think so.
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What else do they have coming out that could be dividing their attention? Right. Not much. No other Oscar jams?
A
I don't believe so.
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Just taking all that getting ready for Elden Ring.
A
You know when Elden Ring is dated
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for, it better be November 17, 2027.
A
It's March 3, 2028.
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Imagine if I turn 50 and fucking Elden ring dropped. So it 300,000 times.
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Yeah, I'll do 75. Have you played Elden Ring?
C
No, but I have watched dudes play it.
B
Say more. Go ahead.
C
On video? On Instagram.
B
Okay, so it's being served to you as a live stream, like a down livestream.
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It's funny people playing Elden Ring and being like, holy shit.
A
Like, you know, damn, son, I misspoke about a 24. You got two movies that they may be spending some time on. One is Club Kid, which they picked up.
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I can.
A
Which is also not eligible to us right now.
B
Yeah.
A
And also the debut, Jesse Eisenberg's musical. No.
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Backstreet Driving.
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Sorry. I'm trying to fucking help you.
A
I wonder if Chris will like Club Kid.
B
What happened here?
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I am a club kid.
A
Are you?
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Well, in a way, yeah.
C
I've been in the clubs, in these
A
clubs, in this film.
C
Was he at Limelight and Shit?
A
Nope.
B
No, it's before. It's. It starts when you left New York. Well. So you're not.
C
I laid that down.
A
It's like Queer dance clubs in circa 2013.
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Sean is.
A
Is.
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Yeah.
A
Now I got it. I got 85. Okay, great. I'm delighted to have this. I don't know if this is touching. 85. But I do think it's. It's gonna be. It's a movie I'm excited about.
C
How come. How come the nickname Amanda Loren hasn't really stuck?
B
Because you're not.
C
How come I haven't taught your son that yet?
B
It's a great question. He does know my name is Amanda. I know I would say.
A
Well, no, your name is Amando.
B
Amando. Amando. That's. Yeah. I mean, you could do it. You can try.
C
I think anytime you Ever speak on Star War Wars? Going forward, the bottom Cryon should just be like a Mandalorian corner. Yeah.
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Hi.
A
What happened with that movie? Sucking.
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It was real. That's another one that you haven't seen, right?
C
Happily, really.
A
And you said you would not see it.
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I stuck to my guns.
B
We never talked about the like, like, polite text that you sent me, like, the Friday of. Of Memorial Day weekend being like, hey, just. We. We changed our travel plans, so I'm sorry I'm not going to be able to come see Mandalorian and Grogu with your son.
C
Yeah.
B
And you kn. Traveling and thus wasn't gonna be pissed at you, but I, you know, you left us hanging there.
C
I'm sorry. You know, I'm not a parent. I don't know what these things mean.
A
I had a conversation with Alice yesterday at dinner because we watched Ghostbusters over the weekend.
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The way you're talking, it's almost like the way you talk about when you have, like, a cool drink with a guy in the industry.
B
Yeah.
C
I was talking with Alice about where Star wars goes from here.
A
Well, she said something really interesting to me, that it's something I felt when we watched that movie, the Mandalorian Grogu. Cause we watched Ghostbusters, and she was like, that wasn't scary at all. That was so fun. And she was, you know, there's some scary stuff in Ghostbusters. It's mostly comic, but I don't know. The dogs, the librarian. The librarian in the beginning is very scary. She loves Stay Puft, Marshmallow Man.
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Did she like Slimer?
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Of course.
A
When Slimer happened, she said, that Ghost is my favorite. Same, which is, you know, we all agree about Slimer. He's a wonderful guy. Man or woman? Slimer do we know?
C
I think non binary, non binary. Primarily interested in food.
A
Right? That's right. Not a sexual being really? At all.
C
Yeah.
B
I mean, you don't know.
C
Mitoplasmic.
B
Don't exclude Slimer from the sexual narrative. Exactly. Why are you being so sexual about that?
A
What would Slimer do if he were dropped into the film? The invite? What role would he. How would he do with the menu? Yeah, he would slime. He would slime. So we're talking about the movie. She loved it. She wants to watch Ghostbusters 2. She wants to watch more spooky movies. She knows dad likes spooky movies, so we're talking about that. And Eileen is asking her, has a movie ever scared you, or is there ever a time when you were upset Watching a movie because she's really been begging for Jaws and we're trying to figure out what is the limit of something. And she was like, Mandalorian Grogu. That was the time when I was most scared because there was the most violent stuff happening, the most fighting, and that was the thing. And I felt that watching the movie, I was like, this movie is really chaotic and intense and not kid friendly, even though it's marketed directly at kids. And we talked about it a little bit on our episode.
B
I was very nervous when we saw the early footage because I was like, my four year old knows about this movie and this seems like really just way too many blasters or guns and yucky. And he was just so, you know, smooth brained about the experience that it turned out to be okay. I don't think he remembers anything of it, which is depressing in its own way. But, yeah, I found it pretty gnarly.
C
I did ask him what his favorite Star wars film was and he said Mandalorian.
B
Oh, okay.
C
Yeah. When I had him rank them recently,
B
what was number two?
C
I think it was like one of the sequels.
B
I mean, he likes Phantom Menace because he, like.
C
I think it was Phantom Menace. I think also I did this with Alice. She also had like.
A
She was like Rise of Skywalker is at least. Because she loves Ray.
B
Yeah, yeah.
A
They can't be trusted.
C
Did you select a film yet? Not to cut off.
B
Oh, no, no, no. So I'm gonna do wild horse nine.
A
20 bucks.
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This is the new Martin McDonough starring John Malkovich. Sam Rockwell, now's your time. Chris Ryan, 50 bucks.
C
Yeah, I'm eyeballing Buscemi, Supporting actor in this intriguing. It's been a while.
A
We want that for him.
B
We do.
C
I have not had him on our screens consistently for a long time.
A
Love him. We just sang his praises on the domestic disturbance.
C
We sure did.
A
Hewatchables episode.
C
But he's the best part of that.
A
Where would we be without Ray?
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This is basically in Barouche, set on Easter island with Sam Rockwell and John Malkovich as hitmen looking to upend government, seemingly. I'll do 60 and Steve Buscemi is their handler. And this looks really fucking funny. And a return to old school. McDonough. I'll do 75.
A
I feel like Banshees is way underrated.
B
It is.
A
And if it was not late stage Covid, it would have a different reputation.
C
What was the release for that? Was that on?
A
It was on HBO max after like three weeks.
B
Yeah, that's right. Cause it was 2022. Right.
A
This is a real inside baseball. But I think I've said this to you guys in the past. I remember the performance of that episode being really big. And I was like, that's weird. This is a small two hander set on Ireland. But it was because everybody watched it at home at the same time. And that was such a unique thing that was happening in the culture.
B
Carrie Condon erasure.
A
God bless her. And Barry Keoghan, of course. There goes that dream.
C
What's wrong with the dream?
A
No, that's what he says in the film.
C
Oh, I thought you were like the dream of Barry Keoghan.
A
No, that's my favorite moment is when
C
he's still writing it.
A
He's opening his. He was opening his wrist to her and he's saying, you know, could we ever.
C
I don't quite understand what's going on. I know he's playing Ringo and he seems like a lovely guy. I don't know what happened where he played. Played Tommy Shelby's son. 90 bucks in a movie and now is not doing it going forward.
A
Who?
C
Barry Keoghan played Tommy Shelby and Peaky Blunders.
B
We saw that. Yeah, Sean and I both saw it.
C
But now there's another show that's gonna. I think Jamie Bell is taking over the part.
B
Oh, it's just like a recasting Paddington
C
3 in Batman 2.
A
I don't think he is.
C
Well, that's just. That's tough. Could have been Tommy Shelby and Batman Joker. And you're not.
A
I'll be honest, I didn't really appreciate what he was doing in crime 101 either.
C
Oh, I did.
B
Yeah. Well, he didn't have much to do.
A
I thought he was doing way too much.
C
Operating on a different wavelength from everybody.
A
I think he needed to settle down a little bit.
B
Are you gonna let him have this?
C
No. $110.
B
Okay.
C
He distracted me.
A
McDonough. I love him. I love his work. I have such an uncomplicated relationship with his work. I think he is truly one of the great writers. Billboards.
C
Billboards.
A
Time to revisit. I'm a big fan. I really think it's good and I think it's. I think what it's accused of is a misunderstanding of the movie and the
B
film performance is great.
A
I would encourage people to revisit the movie.
C
It's really funny.
A
It fell a little bit victim to the moment.
C
I also really like Seven Psychopaths.
A
I do too. So I've heard that this movie is more like Seven psychopaths than it is like banshees. That it is a little bit more of a hyper violent, absurdist comedy than it is a sort of mournful treatise on relationships and friendship.
C
Or they're.
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They're moving the cursor around the clock in a way that suggests to me that they want you to know.
A
Guys have microphones.
B
Yeah, I have.
C
You want me to speak up? I have this phone.
B
So here's. Here's a great procedural. Yeah, Chris has it. Here's a great procedural question. Who's manning the dock and who's manning the clock?
A
The tag team effort back here. I'm on the clock. Lucas is on the dock.
B
That's beautiful. Okay.
A
Clock Dockers. That's it sounds like a Martin McDonough film.
C
Harmony. Koreans returned.
B
Are we doing the turn? Do I have another one?
A
No.
C
I guess we could.
B
Yeah.
A
I thought we reset. Do we not reset? I honestly don't remember. I think we reset.
B
I don't remember that.
C
You say I also open with a new title in snake fashion.
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There you go. Stand corrected.
C
So go for it.
B
Okay, great.
A
Stand corrected.
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It's international.
A
We just have a title right now
B
that was in March and you guys said nothing.
A
What do you want me to say on that day?
B
Yeah, I want you to be creative. I want you to figure out. I know. I just. I want nothing to do with it. I want you to say, I went to the AI conference instead of you, which is a real thing that happened. Do. You did not get the. Oh, so only the women got the AI Women's Month invites at Spotify.
C
That was real.
B
We like to celebrate Women's History Month, which is the email you got, which is. Yes, I'm not kidding. In March. It's March, right? We got, like. We got invited to several, like, Women in AI conferences, but the men don't get invited to that. Wow.
A
Why would I be invited to that?
C
I'd like to meet some women in AI. You know what I mean?
A
Trying to get, like, Paul Schrader. When you say that, you mean AI women?
C
Yeah, like, I'd like to get 90s Sharon Stone to talk to me about, like, the Sixers, you know, I'm still not understanding.
A
You're saying you want a woman who's composed of AI?
C
Yeah, like an AI named Sharon who's, like, chatting with me.
B
Okay.
C
And she's just like, what do you think we should do with embiid?
A
I gotta tell you, this can be done quite easily.
C
I know.
A
So what are you waiting for? You should be Charting this.
B
Yeah, I was gonna say, why are you giving that away for free?
C
I think I have a big future in AI.
B
Okay.
C
How so? I just think I have a lot of ideas for it.
B
Okay.
A
What are your thoughts? You declined this conference.
B
There were multiple conferences. Just so you know, because it's a whole month. So they were offering us lots of opportunities.
A
Is there a male voice that you would want in your life that could be generated by AI?
B
No, I would just. I would want it to silence the other men. You know what I mean? It's just a little bit, like, I hear enough.
A
Right. You want Skynet for male voices. Like, just.
B
Thank you.
C
You wouldn't want Jacob Elordi to, like, call you in the morning and be like, I had guilt. I don't want any groceries.
B
No, I. I would. I think that. That I would feel uncomfortable.
A
Yeah. He's only got one.
C
Talk about it. Just let me know.
A
Why does he talk like Paul Hogan?
C
He's Australian.
A
Right. That's all AI. This is an AI
B
he's not interested in AI. He'd rather be at the beach getting sunburned, reading a novel.
A
Jacob. But wait until somebody backs up the Brinks truck to his house and they're like, please be our AI voice consultant. Here's $85 million. Cause that keeps it happening. People are just like, absolutely.
B
All the way. It really is true. Sure. Yeah.
A
I've been. I've been. I've been asking Amanda off mic.
B
Yes. How much money.
A
What it would cost to sell her
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soul to AI at this point, I think it's bad brand management. I think that you. Because at this point, if you're taking the money, it's. Then you're stuck to it. And I, like, obviously stuck to AI
C
or stuck to that price point.
B
No, you're stuck to AI and to, like, a specific generation of AI.
A
$5 million. And the whole thing is.
B
That's. That's turning. And obviously I. I think the technology of, like, computers helping us and like, computers doing math for us and whatever else they're doing with it is going to continue. But I do sort of feel. I do feel that big AI is in a, like, kind of a bubble phase right now, and they aren't figuring everything out. And if you're stuck and some. Then if, like, if it's pets.com.
C
but it's in a matter to like, Matt Damon with crypto.com. right.
B
That's true. It didn't stick to him, but it did. Where is. Where's your girl?
C
Brie Larson?
B
No, no, no. What's the.
A
That's who you think of when someone
B
says you're girl that he was gonna propose to.
C
No, I thought she did a crypto.
A
We just got a real insight into your mind.
C
Talk to a girl.
B
Talk to a girl. Talk to a girl.
A
Haley Welch.
C
That's. She was.
A
A lot just happened. Hold on. We have to. Hold on. Slow down, slow down. There's not even a film on the board right now. Also.
B
I'll tell you want me to put one on? I, I will do the film that I'm at. The only one thing that's making me mad about my vacation dates. End of Oak Street.
A
Oh, yeah.
B
Fifteen bucks.
C
That's the only reason you're mad about your vacation.
B
I'm not mad about my vacation dates. I'm have a fucking amazing time. Thanks for filling in. But that is one that was dated after I thought those two weeks in August was, were clear.
A
And that's, that's the CR special.
B
I would enjoy it. So. Yeah. So 15 bucks. End of Oak Street. Okay. Okay.
A
You, you suggested.
B
Yeah.
A
Your girl to Chris Ryan. He said Brie Larson. Now, I don't know why he didn't say Phoebe Riley.
C
25 bucks. 25 bucks.
A
I don't. Is that even an actress you care about?
C
No. I thought she. Because she's had like an interesting like 35 bucks. She's dipped her toe into a lot of pools over the last 10 years or so. 40 since.
A
You mean literally.
C
No, she's like a YouTube content creator. She did like mental, but then she stepped back.
B
Remember, $50.
A
I'm really excited about this movie.
B
55. But she, like, she made an announcement that she was no longer. She was taking a break from Instagram and from creating. I know Khashan sent it to me,
C
so maybe you're the one.
B
Yeah. I was gonna say, you have a right.
A
She's following the industry.
B
If you told me, if you told me that Brie Larson was playing Hawk Tua in the life of like, I would believe it. Oh, you know, I, I, you could see it.
A
So I have someone says you're girl. You think Brie Larson. We all think Hawk Tua. What do you think that tells you about you?
C
I, that, that obviously, like, I see myself differently than way everybody else sees me. Well, who would your girl be? It's your girl.
B
You say 65.
A
I think I would be associated probably most specifically with either Chastain or Anne Hathaway. Yeah, those are the two gals who I pretty consistently am like, I like what they're up to. I like what they're doing. Right. Is that fair to say?
B
Yeah, that's what I would go with.
A
Probably some others on the board. You know, they're like really more my age. Unlike Hawk to a.
B
You know, she's 27, but Brie Larson is in the general.
C
He's 75.
B
Okay. You're squinting in a way that makes me nervous about your eyesight as well.
C
Oh, I can't. I just actually don't know what movie we're bidding on. I'm just trying to keep it going.
B
This is a dinosaur.
A
This is the end of Oak Street.
B
Yes. This is David Robert Mitchell's starring his girl Anne Hawkley.
C
Wonderful Delay is a little bit troubling. Although maybe they were trying to get the VFX dial. I don't know what of our triggers. It works for. For me. It's hard for me to imagine making $100 million, but I've been wrong before.
A
I agree. It's a little bit of a risky venture. $85. I just love the idea of this movie existing. The episode that I want to do around this movie is Twilight Zone movies. I love Twilight Zone premises in movies where super high concept, extravagant, more than likely metaphorical, allegorical. Maybe this isn't an allegory movie, but I suspect it is because it's from David Robert Mitchell who made it follows who made under the Silver Lake. He works with games.
C
95
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Ewan McGregor. Would you say you like him as a leading man? Now
B
I'm putting him on the spot. I'm trying to think of what he's done to sleep.
C
He was the lead season of Fargo where he played twins.
A
He was good in that.
C
He's really good in Trainspotting too. I did not care for Obi Wan Kenobi.
A
Neither did I. I'll say $105. I'm stoked for this movie. I hope it's good.
C
1:20, any movie. Got to get some movies.
A
This also raises a point I made on the blank check Jurassic park episode, which is if you go back and you look at the history of movies, especially movies since Jurassic park, there are very few dinosaur movies.
C
I'm very curious to see if the dinosaurs in this film are drastically different than the Jurassic World Rebirth movie. Like, where are we at with how shared is that dinosaur tech?
A
I was watching Alice watched, asked to watch the Jurassic park trailer and we watched it and I was just marveling just watching the trailer and being like so magical. This is 32 years, 33 years ago. 130. And they still. That combination of CGI and the practical, you know, the models that they built is still good, but they've not really iterated on it that much in our dinosaur movies. Right. Can you name 10 dinosaur movies off the top of your head made since 1990?
C
No.
B
That's because you guys don't remember any of the Jurassic movies besides Jurassic Park.
A
Those aside, name five. Set aside to the Jurassic movies.
C
Ask me a single question about Jurassic. Anything about Jurassic World or Jurassic what?
A
Park.
B
Okay. What. What is the current geopolitical status of the dinosaurs? 155 in this franchise. Where are they? Where are they living?
C
What are they doing? They're stateless creatures, are they not?
A
I think that's right. Yeah. They're. They're without nation.
C
Yeah.
A
And without ambassadorship.
B
Okay.
C
Did Mahershalan make it through that movie? No.
A
Political asylum.
C
I know these dinosaurs.
A
Who was looking after them?
B
No one.
A
I'll tell you what.
C
I'm 65.
B
That's not true. Jonathan Bailey.
A
I just bring up something really serious.
B
Jonathan Bailey. Oh, okay.
A
I can't.
B
Can't hear you.
A
No, there's actually, like, meaningful consequences in the world, and I'm not gonna make a joke about it. Okay. Jonathan Bailey.
B
He cares about the dinosaurs.
A
He died, right?
B
No, no.
C
Mahershula dies.
B
No one died.
A
Spontaneously combusted at the end of the movie.
B
No one dies in the Jurassic world.
A
That's part of. Part of the problem with the movie. You guys love him.
C
Doesn't Mahershala do battle with like a
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dinosaur with, like a land, air and sea?
A
Yeah, he survives. He survives at the end. Real shoulda killed Chewie vibes in that movie. We got to bring him all back for the sequel. Well, will a sequel to that movie happen? We're at 37. 175.
C
Yeah, it will.
A
With ScarJo and Mahershala.
B
ScarJo's doing 45 other franchises. Yeah.
A
What's next on the docket for her?
C
Well, Zari Aster, Batman and Exorcist.
A
Oh, man, that's fucking awesome. She. I'm sorry to say, she's the chosen one. That's.
C
Who are you? Why are you sorry to her about it?
A
Because she's mixed on Scarjo.
B
I admire her and I like some of her films. And sometimes I'm like, is this acting?
C
It would be great if she was still.
B
It's just one woman's movie.
C
If it was all print and Amanda just.
A
That's what they say about Elizabeth Taylor.
B
That's true.
C
Her author photo was just like. And it was like skeptical with a C about Scourgeo. And it's just like one lady's opinion. Are we sure she's good?
A
You let me have this one.
C
Yeah, yeah. No, 200.
A
Oh, shoot. We'll add it.
B
I think she's good. I think sometimes she's not used the way I would. Wait.
A
Ari Aster, Batman, Paper Tiger, Tiger and Exorcist. And that's.
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Yeah, I saw the balance.
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That's the balance we're looking for.
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That is still from Exorcist today. And I was James Gray.
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Ari Aster, superhero movie. And what's the other one that I'm forgetting? Exorcist. I hope that Access movie is superhero movie.
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She plays Gilda Dent. Well, we don't know.
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Who is Gilda Dent.
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Harvey Dent's wife.
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Oh, brother.
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Well, what are her powers where she's just wife again?
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She's the wife of the dean.
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She's the wife again.
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But I think she does.
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We gotta stop making Serjo the wife.
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She does some bad stuff or some mixed stuff.
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The thing you don't know is that this movie is not called the Batman 2. It's called Gilded Den. And it's a character piece about what
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happens if it's a remake of Gilda Gabriel starring Scarjo.
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That I would be interested.
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Is she not named after the titular Gilda from the film?
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Gilda?
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Gilda.
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I don't know.
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Okay?
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I don't know.
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2:35. I want to clarify something quickly. Chris, you said you need to get
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some movies on the board.
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Okay. I just want to make sure. Okay, great.
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I'm aware. I'm sorry.
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We all have one movie. You don't have to get greedy. I know this is out. I.
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This doesn't do anything for my triggers. I just. I can tell this is.
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I. It's not fun to see him, Rand, in like this, you know? Yeah.
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The horse.
B
It's like being at the zoo.
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We gotta start getting that lighthouse up for Brie Larson again. How do we get. How do we get back to that?
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I'm just. I'm playing. I mean, I guess, like this is. This game is turning out the way you intended because you gave me rules that I'm following.
A
Well, I liked how you played last time. Now, you probably should have spent some more money, but your selections were interesting. Amanda and I were like Dune.
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Yeah, we were being boring.
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Odyssey. We were going big. And you were being more measured.
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I was the film knower.
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No, that wasn't what I said. You're the game knower. Yeah, you were the game knower. Okay, it is your turn to put a movie up, right? Because I managed to put up the end of vote first.
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It's Sean.
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Yeah. It's your turn again.
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Fuck, my brain is fried.
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Guys, you have $690 remaining. How will you spend them?
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These are two of my most anticipated movies. So I'm really happy with what I've gotten so far, even though I don't know if they do really anything for me. Wild Horse nine. Off the board. What's another movie that we're really anticipating
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that you haven't seen?
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There's one fun one that you could do.
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Hunger Games Sunrise on retail. I'm fucking pumped for that.
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Okay.
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Who's that?
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I got one.
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Who's in?
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Jesse Plemons and Kieran Colton.
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I mean, I do like Jesse.
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No, I think that trailer's excellent. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Francis Lawrence, that first film in this
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reboot or the sequels interminable. Like Rachel Zegler.
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Like, hey, yeah.
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No, that was the longer songs and Snakes.
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Yeah.
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I watched that in a hotel room with my wife and we both felt like we were going back in time. Like, we were like, this is the fucking crazy longest movie we've ever seen.
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I like Rachel Zegler a lot. I don't know why she was asked to perform Lumineers songs for three hours. It was a really weird.
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I also, despite the title being the Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes, was not prepared for the level of performance.
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Not a songbirding. Yeah, this one does look cool.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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That's not what I'm putting up. I'm putting up.
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Do it.
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What was I going to put up? Whale Fall.
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Good. See, that's when.
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$10.
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I knew what she said.
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I knew what she. Exactly what she meant. You know about Whalefall?
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You're out on this $85. You fucking. Do you know about Whale fall? I invented Whalefall.
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It.
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It's in the sea with Austin Abrams. They don't make whale fall without my fucking say so. I greenlit that movie. I greenlit it. I was watching K Pop Towns. I was watching Austin Abrams on Euphoria.
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Yeah.
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So I'm taking this one. This is your boy's movie.
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This film was based on a novel written by Daniel Krauss, who invented this story. And you had nothing to do with green lighting the movie?
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It's all Melville. Let's go.
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Okay.
A
Oh, interesting.
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Yeah.
A
Well, have you read the book?
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I read Moby Dick.
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Did you?
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Yeah.
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To completion.
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Yeah.
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You and Brie larson I'll say $100. I.
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First of all, just 110.
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Just this whole show putting its arms around whale fall. We can't do better. We can't do better.
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150. It's entirely possible that this movie is honestly unintelligible. That it is so dark that the whale's stomach is not supporting.
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I think that you.
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What are you going to do if. When he goes into the whale stomach.
B
Yeah.
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It's all flashbacks of his trauma.
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I'll be really upset. I will feel betrayed.
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175.
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Because I do feel like I've put in a lot of work. There's actually so in my. I have a very clear mental image. And I'm like, I'm already priced out of this. So. But I'm really excited. I have a really clear mental image in my mind of what it looks like inside the whale.
C
Because you saw a little bit of footage.
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No, but we didn't see.
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We have not seen nobody's.
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Yeah, it was a funny footage.
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No, but it's not. It's not based on. I'm trying to figure out, like, what children's book or what illustration of, like, the book of Jonah or wherever.
A
The Jonah Swiss whale. Yeah.
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Well, I know, but there's. But it's a very, very specific image where it's a large. It's in brown inside the whale. And there's.
A
Sure. Nothing in Pinocchio.
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A small window. No. And then there's like a little stool. And then Jonah's in there. No, that's what. In my head.
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Okay.
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You know, if I were storyboarding it, it's just like, you know, a playset and it's. It's like a little stool and it's all brown. And then he's just hanging around. But I don't actually know what happens inside the whale. Many compartments. When is this in a whale stomach?
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September or October? October 9th.
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I think it's October. Yeah.
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October 9th.
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What are we gonna do when we're here with tears in our eyes talking about how Whale Falls is propelling Hollywood to new heights?
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We're going to be like, we told you so.
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That we told people there's a movie where a guy gets swallowed by a whale. And the people said, yes. And the people said, I know you
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don't want to relive this too much, but the image of Larry David. We're at 30 seconds. Two, 35. The image of Larry David in game four of the NBA Finals when Josh Hart misses the layup.
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I'm done reliving this.
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Well I'm not.
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Well.
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No. It's a negative moment. It's a negative moment. Josh Hart misses the layup on the breakaway in the final fourth quarter. And there's a wide shot of Larry David in the front row. And he starts to fall down and he does the full. And he's looking for someone to brace him while he's falling. 240 that was me. When the whale fall footage hit at Cinemacon. I was just like I didn't know how much I needed this.
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Yeah. And it was during an otherwise fairly grim present Disney presentation.
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Yes.
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And it was before they brought rtfield
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who is making who made whalefaw is now writing the Alien sequel.
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Very encouraging. Yeah. Very encouraging.
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Ridley meddling. That's what they say.
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Ridley's meddling with the script.
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Ridley's meddling with the franchise. Is the word on the street.
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Is that word on the street on Romulus as well.
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And then so Feddy left and then it was gonna be the Evil Dead burn guy was gonna make it.
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He had.
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We're at 30 seconds again.
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260.
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Yeah.
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There we go. Sorry.
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Sebastian Vanekak.
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I give you power of attorney. If I get two.
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Okay. Thank you so much. We're back.
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Sebastian Vanechek.
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Nature's healing it.
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And then that fell apart. And on the street I gave her power of attorney to bid me while you go here. No. That's not what I meant.
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265 I just.
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I I. I'm. I'm maxed out. I don't have Claude with me. I can't. I can't talk to you about Alien and bid on this fucking movie.
A
You mean you don't have Brie with you?
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Sharon. I want Sharon Stone.
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Oh. Sharon. Excuse me.
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Yeah.
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275 you don't like Sharon Stone's voice?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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What's wrong with it? Why do you have against women's voices?
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Nothing. I'm surrounded by them at all times. 280 what is the voice you want to hear?
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285 no.
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I want Emma Thompson.
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I mean that is a nice voice. But I don't really. I want silence is what I want in life. Yeah. We had a. As I said it was an up and down weekend. It was a life lived at the extremes this weekend for me and also for my husband. And so we were at dinner with the kids.
A
You guys went mountain climbing or something. What happened?
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We were just trying to live life.
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290Just keep your eye on it.
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Okay. Well. And so my 4 year old asked for some music at the dinner table on Saturday night. And Zach was just like, you know what, Knox? I need silence right now. I just. I need a minute. Did you say that? He actually did. And so we didn't play music.
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I don't know if I'd have the heart to do that.
B
So that's where we are right now. And then 30 minutes later, I discovered Wife Repeller. So now there's no more silence in our house.
A
Yep. Just MJ Lenderman up and down.
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I love MJ Linderman.
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No one knows what Wife Repeller is. That story was told off mic. So sure.
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Wife. Yeah, I posted about it. I guess it was on Saturday night. Maybe you were not looking at Instagram. Spending time with your family. Congratulations.
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We're at 30 seconds.
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Yeah.
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Common V, you give victory for me.
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You may take it.
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Yeah.
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Thank you.
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That's beautiful. Don't really know if it. If this. If this hits, we're fucking not ready. It's going to. 100 million will be like light work. And if it doesn't, it's just going to make like 5 million.
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I think it's going to be hard for it to.
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Josh, tomorrow is going to be like, who the fuck greenlit this morning?
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And why didn't you use AI to make it?
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Well, what's it going up against? That's a very busy time at the box office.
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Our October is really emotionally involved.
A
It really is. So it's actually October 16th is Whalefall. It will be coming off of the Social reckoning other mommy October 9th, which is a very chaotic weekend for us.
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But read the whole read. Start October 2nd.
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Digger and Verity come out on October 2nd. That's a lot.
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Colleen Hoover and Tom Cruise does Other Mommy feature farting. Did I read that correctly that the demon in Other Mommy is flatulent?
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Where did you read this? Where are you?
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I don't know.
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This is lady and Bray Larson spending your time.
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Where do we find this Other Mommy?
A
Ask Sharon.
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Okay, since you're not going to read it, then. October 9th, social reckoning. Then the next episode is Fjord. Then Whalefall and Sense and Sensibility.
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Other Mommy, flatulence.
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It's very.
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Don't forget about Street Fire.
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Well, I was more talking about myself. And obviously I will see Street Fighter and that was the best of the video game presentations that we saw at Cinemacon.
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I was thinking about maybe trying to
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grab it here, but that I just. I don't really know what I'm gonna do with myself in October. I'm gonna stay strong. I'm gonna, you know, Keep seeing the sun. Keep doing my exercises. Mindfulness. Try to keep my eye on the ball.
A
Mindfulness is something you practice. I would find that hard to believe.
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I learned.
A
I learned a little bit about mindfulness.
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I learned what mindfulness was.
B
I learned a lot about it. And then I was like, that seems unnecessary. I'm just gonna put everything in a box over here.
A
You know, mindfulness is about silence. Yeah. Which is obviously not achievement.
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Is it my turn? I won whale and I have whatchamacallit. And now we're starting to get into the like. Well, I hate to do it to you guys, but you gotta grab one
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of those huge films.
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I'm gonna go for Paper Tiger.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Because it's a personal. It represents me personally as an east coast guy. Crime film. And loves James Gray and loves Miles Teller and loves Adam Driver, loves Scarlett Johansson. And I'll bid $5 for that out of respect to pay for Tiger.
A
But why not just bid 100?
C
Well, why not bid one? You guys can't bid on it, right?
B
That's true.
A
$5 is actually more insulting than $1. $1. Somebody looks at the board and they're like, oh, he ran out of money. But there was one movie left on the board. $5 is like, no one else bid on it. I don't know.
B
I would encourage people.
A
I would say bid 500.
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No, I'm gonna bid $5. And we can talk about Paper Tiger, though.
A
Yeah. Well, it's just a terrific movie.
B
We loved it. We were there at the premiere. Scarlett Johansson was not. But they FaceTimed her during the applause. Yeah, but I mean, listen, time zones are very complicated.
A
Here's what I'll say. One of the very best Adam Driver performances of all time. And also the most. Miles Teller has tried hard to be good in a film in about a decade.
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Like, since when? When's the last time you think he did that? Spectacular now.
A
I mean, that's my favorite milestone performance. Whiplash and spectacular now, that's an amazing. That was when I was like, oh, is this guy like Jon Voight or something? And it was not that. Ultimately, John Voight. Just like a really sensitive but masculine presence on screen, you know, not Jon Voight now. Not Jon Voight advising President Trump on
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how to save some tried to reshore Hollywood production.
A
No Jon Voight from Midnight cowboy.
C
And how's ScarJo's accent? Are you allowed to say that without breaking.
A
No, it's perfectly accurate. It is exactly what people from there sound like. It sounds like my grandmother.
C
Do you Think I would like to have it voice. My AI agent.
A
I don't think you'd enjoy that.
B
Yeah.
C
My AI companion.
A
As someone who was raised with those voices very closely.
C
You don't know what I get excited by.
A
You told us Brie Larson.
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No, I didn't mean that. I just didn't know what she was talking about. Yeah. Five bucks. I love James Gray. It's gonna likely hit 85. I mean, it's currently at 85. Right.
A
Who knows? Who knows? It was very well reviewed by the French. The European critics loved it. The US critics thought it was his best in some time. I would say the US pundits that we knew that we talked to at the festival, but it did not win any prizes at K. Right. So I don't know what that means then.
B
The French newspapers were very upset about.
A
They were. Le Monde said a masterpiece.
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What did l' Equipe say?
A
Didn't catch up with that one. I also don't read French.
C
L' Equipe is the sports magazine.
B
Yeah, we know.
A
They said goal. What is the French word for goal?
B
Goal.
A
Is it?
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I think so. Goal's pretty universal, really. I mean, there might be a French word for goal, but I think when they score, they're like, goal.
A
Okay, well, congrats on Paper Tiger.
C
Damn, son.
A
Damn, son.
C
You scored a goal, so I get Paper tiger.
B
Yeah.
C
I can never tell. Like, is this podcast supposed to go on for like six hours or we.
A
Yeah, as you told me many moons ago, it's all one podcast.
C
So now I have Wild Horse 9, and I have Paper Tiger and I have Whaleful.
A
Yep, that's good. What's your ideal episode length for this?
B
As a. As a host or as listening to a podcast?
A
Oh, let's do both.
B
Good question. I do find that something magical happens at the two hour mark.
A
Me too.
B
You know, so either a focused, you know, 1 to 1:15, maybe like a focused one plus, then you have a good interview.
A
Yep.
B
And. Or two hours and things can get, like, really frisky. I will say this is how we've
A
been able to do it together for so long.
B
I agree with you, but every once in a while there are exceptions where. Where it's. Where if you and I just like have an hour and a half, but like no real structure or nothing that we have to get done, then we can get to the two hour energy at about an hour. And that's also beautiful. But that's where I'm trying to go.
A
I wonder if that's gonna get easier or Harder as I get older.
B
You mean the. The loopiness or the just conjuring that energy?
A
Cause, you know, you used to say like, five years ago, you'd be like, you guys like to go long. Yeah. You like to be a more efficient rhythm.
C
I'm more used to different rhythms. I mean, I'm more of a 55 minute.
B
Yeah, we know.
C
Hour and five minute guy.
A
And then what happens at one hour and five minutes?
C
Well, usually I have to come do another podcast. A lot of scheduling. Excuse us.
A
Yeah.
C
I like to be supportive of.
A
Where are you going after this? What show do you have to go do? Rogan.
C
I know. I have to prepare for the beautiful pod.
A
Oh, yeah. There are many matches today.
C
There are three, four, maybe. I think I have to nominate another film.
A
Please do.
C
I don't like doing this, but I do need to shore up my Oscar campaign.
B
Okay.
C
And so I will be nominating Fjord.
A
Oh, wow. Sheesh.
B
Okay.
A
Two in a row that are ineligible for Amanda.
C
And I. I'm sorry.
B
That's okay.
C
But I wasn't really sure if I had, like, great confidence like this. Oscars is yet to coalesce for me to the extent that I pay attention,
B
I would say, too.
C
And I looked at.
B
How much are you paying a dollar
A
to mirror Sean's shots fired at Christian Monju?
C
No.
A
The great Romanian filmmaker. This movie. I'm really curious to see what happens with this, because I think it's going to hit here and people are going to be like masterpiece. I could be wrong. It was mixed at Cannes. It did win the palm, and the jury loved it, but it was very mixed. And there were pushes towards other films. Minotaur, La Bola Negra that people preferred to this movie because it is in keeping with the kind of movie that he makes. But I loved it. And you liked it. You liked it a lot.
C
I really liked it. I think they will get an Oscar
B
nomination out of it. It's the best they'll get two, I think, at least for the performances and then best picture, I think.
A
So this is a movie about a couple, a Norwegian woman and a Romanian man who were living in Romania and moved to Norway to get a better life for their families. A Christian family who encounter some unusual progressive structures in place in Norway around their family. And it becomes a real cultural clash. Literally a cultural clash. And Sebastian Stan and Renata Reinzva are both amazing in the movie. It's gonna be a bit of a political time bomb, though. It's gonna reveal, I think, a lot about how people feel about this kind of thing when it is released. I guess don't wanna say more than that. I'm very curious for your take as a thoughtful consumer of political content and one of the makers of jmo.
C
That's true.
A
It's a true JMO movie.
C
Good, good, good. I think in similar ways that we were talking about ScarJo doing the right. I think shout out to Sebastian Stan, who seems to have gotten the same memo and is like, I did all the Marvel movies. And those two people probably will be ahead of the curve as I wonder whether or not less and less Hollywood actors are interested in going through what Millie Alcock just went through.
B
Yeah.
C
And they're just like, is it really worth it to. If this doesn't go right, I get blamed. And if it goes well, like, I'm locked into this for nine years.
A
Elegant segue for my next nomination, which is Brand New Day. Okay, I'll put it on the board for five bucks. I don't know if you guys care about this. I don't know if it makes sense. Even in the auction, in the aftermath of the Supergirl thing and the way the. That we talked about it and that I wrote about it and all that. It doesn't change the fact that I still remain very interested in Spider man movie.
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Do you think this will make more money than Odyssey and Dune?
A
In all likelihood, it should. I mean, based on what the subject matter is and how it's performed before, and Spider man is not really subject to the whims of Morbius and Supergirl. Spider man has always been successful.
C
15 bucks.
B
Wait, what's on the board?
C
Spider Man. Brandi Day. What do you need? What do you need?
B
I'm sorry, I want. I was focusing on what I need and, like, you know, kind of trying to plot myself. But no, you start talking about Spider man, which I like. I had a great time at the one where they pointed each other, you
A
know, no way home.
B
Sure. That was beautiful.
A
And new director.
B
Okay.
A
Destin Daniel Cretton coming in. John Watts out.
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Justin Kuritsky's writing. Doing a pass on the screenplay. Tom Holland claiming to Zach Baron that he learned a lot from the Odyssey. And that's what he. That energy brought to Brand New Day.
B
Yeah, of course. Me too.
A
Are you in the Odyssey?
B
Wouldn't that be amazing if I showed
A
up Scylla or Charybdis?
C
Or is it that you constantly tell Zack Baron that you've learned a lot from the Odyssey?
A
Yeah, we're at 36, $25 now. Five years ago, if we were doing this exercise, this movie would be fought for. Now, we also. We have all of that.
B
Do either of you need box office?
A
I do.
C
I could use some backup for disclosure day. But I was just doing this to, like, keep talking.
B
But this is. This is a sequel, so he can't even have it.
C
That's right. I shouldn't even be allowed to bid.
B
So we should go back down to your $15.
A
Wow. We should go back down to my $5. Cause I put it up. Do I get this for. I mean, you have to ask yourself. Actually, you can't do it either because you have two sequels.
B
That's right.
A
Well, that's a steal.
B
Congratulations.
A
Thank you very much.
C
Congratulations, Sean.
B
I'm gonna see this film.
C
It turns out that you're doing well at the game whose rules you wrote.
A
I would love to play a game that you create or you create.
C
I don't think you could play my games.
A
Say more.
B
Okay, so I could.
C
Have you ever seen a Saw movie?
B
So I do have some loopholes the way that Chris does because I famously left Cannes early and almost missed the Palm.
C
Do you have one movie?
B
I only have one film that I spent a lot of money on.
A
And.
B
And there are some things waiting for me, hopefully, unless you want to get in the mix. But that doesn't seem that fun to do right now. So I'm going to have a little fun right now. And then if I got to circle back or I got to start Googling movies coming out in 2026, I will do that. So.
A
Okay. This is a lot of preamble.
B
Listen, I told you I was focused. That's why I wasn't listening to you talking about Spider Man.
A
Still ambling.
B
Sorry, it's called vamping. While I decide what to do.
A
Still ambling.
B
For $10, I'll do here Comes the Flood.
A
Okay. What is the value of this film?
B
Okay. Oh, great. Okay. Me liking it. Okay, that's good. And me having a great time. Me going to the cinema and saying, yes, they still make them. Well, I will, because it's rumored to be premiering in Venice.
A
Okay.
B
So I will be at the Palais, the Palazzo. In this case, excuse me, I gotta switch my internal settings from French to Italian.
A
You know, I gotta.
C
That's a really relatable.
B
I will be there. And it will be in a large screen and seats that are slightly too small for my liking. The Europeans keep it compact, but you don't have to. That's fine. This is a heist film directed by Fernando Morales, written By Simon Kinberg. Denzel Washington, Robert Pattinson. Your girl, Daisy Edgar Jones.
C
Is she playing an American in this film?
B
Don't know. They didn't consult me on the accent work.
C
I think she does a fine American accent.
B
Okay, this is 50 nobody wants.
C
Twister was fine.
B
Tenders.
C
Yeah, Twister was fine.
A
There were multiple twisters.
C
I want to keep talking about this movie though.
B
Okay.
C
I agree with you completely that this is just a gobsmacking decision just to hide this away on Netflix. I feel like this is like Denzel Washington, Robert Pattinson.
A
I'm keeping a brat about this publicly so that they put it in the theaters. I don't understand. Why make the fucking movie? There's no way this movie costs less than $100 million. There's a 0% chance it's a Denzel Washington movie. So they had to buy out his quote and his back end. So this movie's expensive.
B
I mean, this is also. This is a movie that spans the generations at Netflix, presumably. Right. And the executives.
A
I believe so. I don't know.
B
We aren't totally sure. Could assume that it was greenlit and structured era. Yes. In a different era than the current. We don't care about spending money on movies.
A
All I know is a bank situation. Yeah, always. Which is always promising.
B
Listen, it's also. I'm just interested. I want to see it. And I said that I would try to spend some money for myself.
C
Incidentally, the.
B
Also I had no movie and only $285.
C
Is it leech or Stahelski is doing how to rob a Bank?
A
Leech. David Leitch.
C
That could either be. That will either be among my favorite movies of the year or among my least favorite. And there is no in between.
A
Interesting.
C
Because I care a lot about TikTok and I don't want them to bastardize it. As a filmmaking, that's what you've got your heart in.
B
Okay.
C
No, I just think it could be really corny or really good.
A
Yeah, I agree with you. You. Here Comes the Flood is like a couple of other movies where there's no materials right now. We don't know when it's coming out. Maybe it's at Venice, maybe not. It feels like a very commercial place. So Venice seems like a weird place to put a movie like that. I mean, I think it's just a genre movie. It's probably an elevated Denzel Washington programmer. Right. With obviously the director of City of God and the Two Popes and Fernando Morell is super accomplished. But I don't know, I'm very excited about it.
C
You think it'll be better or worse than the rest rip?
B
I'm hoping better. And that's said with love for the rip, which I enjoyed very much.
C
Not as much as Quentin Tarantino.
B
That's true. But you know you loved the film.
C
I know.
A
Loved it. Wrote about it in Sight and Sound magazine.
C
Extensively.
B
Beautiful.
A
Okay, so you've got Here comes and
B
then I have another one.
A
You have another film to put up on the board. Chris has got four movies. I've got three, you've got two.
B
Other mommy. 10 bucks.
A
Okay, 20 bucks on I.
B
25.
C
It says that the other mommy is flatulent.
A
I mean, what's more haunting than that?
C
I'm just saying it gives you an idea of the vibe of the film.
B
Sure.
A
30 bucks.
C
A rob Savage movie. I'm a big fan. Rob Savage.
A
I know you are. Jessica Chastain. A big fan. So Jessica Chad, 35. Ripping ass.
C
No, I think it's about like a little girl who finds a demon in her closet that farts. And it's like she calls it Other Mommy. I could be.
A
Yeah, but no, no, not at all. What it's about, dog.
B
The demon. The demon takes the corporeal form.
C
Other Mommy. 2026.
B
Jessica Chastain. So the. The. The demon looks just like Bella.
C
An eight year old girl living in a home with marital problems confronts a flatulent entity that comes out of her closet. That presence who she calls Other Mommy becomes increasingly threatening to her and her family.
A
$45.
B
$50 because. Because it looks just like her real mommy. Jessica Chastain. Well, listen, we all have bodies.
C
You saw.
A
Are you looking@fart.com?
C
what are you reading? IMDb look.
A
Interesting data that's not noted in the trailer.
B
Yeah, there are no farts.
A
You're done. You're walking away.
C
I can go off the dome for
A
the rest
C
now that I solved the Internet. $55 prove to you that the 60 bucks and farts.
A
Yeah. Did you not want to leave up the photos of Brie Larson you're looking at.
C
It's not cool. I. I don't objectify her.
A
What?
B
You don't.
C
She's Marvel.
A
Captain Marvel, you pig. She's a captain.
B
And did you.
C
That wasn't.
B
That wasn't even an Ms. Dot. That was a.
C
That wasn't.
A
Helen Gurley Brown is Marvel.
B
Yeah,
C
she actually does not. I was. I was about to spoil.
A
We're at 30 seconds. 65.
C
I'm gonna do that.
B
$70.
C
Spoil the bear. I was gonna Say something about the bear.
A
You know, I'm gonna watch it. I was. I was strongly encouraged by Brian Koppelman last week. He was like, you have to watch season four.
C
He's in the bear.
A
Well, we were talking about. Because of that computer.
C
Season five.
A
Season five, yeah. Season six.
B
I'm gonna watch it. And I'm gonna watch the agency, too.
C
Do the agency rocks.
B
I'm quite excited.
C
Yeah, I think you would, actually. I have to watch the thing that you would like to watch.
B
Literally 30 Diane Keaton films that she made after 2008. So that's going to be an interesting week for me.
C
Hall of Fame.
A
It's going to be a tough one.
B
Yeah. But I signed up as tribute for
A
the late face 75. The thing with Diane Keaton is the run of movies from 1970 through 1987. I don't know if there's ever been a stronger stretch. It's honestly extraordinary, especially 70 through 81. And then something happens in 2000 where I'm like, what are these films? Have not heard of this.
C
What's the movie that changes it all, that sends it in the wrong direction? What's the turning point?
A
Not sure if there's a break point. I think she just. Older women, obviously getting typecast, not getting the opportunities that they want.
C
Hate that feel.
B
There's a lot of. What's the Lily Tomlin, Jane Fonda show? Grace and Frankie.
A
Yeah.
B
90. There's a lot of things that just have, like, a Grace and Frankie vibe to them.
A
I see, you know Mac and Rita. What's that? I don't know. Movie that came out in 2022. Never heard of it until yesterday. Mac and Rita.
C
What's the movie we're bidding on?
A
Other Mommy.
C
Well, I did my work on this.
A
You don't want to get in on this.
C
I don't feel like reporters. $574 from their reporting, and I reported on this film.
A
You read a logline on a publicly available website.
C
Yeah, CAI do that.
A
That's exactly what it does. 95. Why not?
B
How much money do I have left? I have.
A
There's a lot of money on my 275.
B
A hundred dollars.
A
I'll let you have it for a hundred dollars. I need you to have some money left over so we can keep the game going here.
B
Okay.
A
Okay. So you put Other Mommy up. Yeah, that kicks it back to me.
B
I put here comes the flood and Other Mommy me.
A
Okay. Spider Man. Brand new day off the board.
B
Oh, now it's back.
A
I mean, what's the Most desirable movie that's left on the slate right here. Onslaught. You know what Onslaught is?
B
No.
C
It's Adam Wingard's return to James Cameron esque filmmaking with Simon Barrett.
A
He's.
C
He's left behind Godzilla and King Kong. And it's Adri Arjona playing a super soldier killer. Right?
A
That's exactly right. I hope it's good.
B
Okay.
A
Is October coming out this year? Jeremy Saulnier's new film?
C
I think we would have heard, and I think it would be slated for October, which would make it weird if it was just like, out of nowhere. There's a Jeremy Saulnier movie.
A
There's some stuff, but I don't know if there's anything that really connects with all three of us. And those are usually the most interesting movies.
C
Are you gonna pick the Taika Waititi movie?
A
No, it looks absolutely horrible.
B
There's a new Ishiguro book coming out next year.
C
He fucking blacked out in the Financial Times. They asked him about, like, his obsession with train movies. He seems like the most delightful guy ever.
B
Yeah. What's the new one called? I'm just gonna say, Ms. Lambert steps aboard. Danger. Look at this. Wow. An exquisite spy novel. A disarming and memorable caper in which not everything is quite as it seems.
A
Wow. Ready to go?
B
March 9, 2027.
A
Why are you yelling?
B
Because I'm fucking psyched for the new Ishiguro novel. Like I'm a hype woman, but only for literary fiction that meets my particularly interests. This is tagged literary fiction and cozy mystery.
C
Damn.
B
Penguin Random House, get at me.
C
Damn, son. Where'd that mystery get so cozy? Would you leave him if. Would you leave Sean if it was like, amanda, you've just done such amazing work for the modern, modern publishing. We just want to prop you up as a literary fiction influencer. Would you abandon Sean? And you were just like, send me a galley.
A
Why would this necessitate leaving me?
B
Why can't I have both?
C
I guess that's true. You could have it all.
B
What I am doing every day is having it all.
A
That's right. Many people are saying I don't know how to have it all for this moment. So I'm gonna put Clayface on the board.
B
Okay?
A
This is a personal project. You think that's beautiful, James Watts. I don't have to worry about that anymore because I have Spider Man.
C
I'm just asking if you think it's going to make $100 million.
A
I don't think Supergirl's going to make $100 million. I'm serious.
B
It would be funny if Supergirl didn't make $100.
C
It would be fucked up if all the guys were like, but, yes, Clayface. You know what I mean?
A
Well, yeah. I mean, do you think.
B
Where is the Clayface episode? I'm looking at the schedule. Where is it? What happened?
A
It's.
B
Oh, it's not till the end of October. It got moved. I was confusing it with something else. Okay.
C
Yeah.
A
It's October 23rd. Yeah, it is. I've got some ideas for the Clayface episode. Clayface. James Watkins adapting the DC Comics story of a Batman villain, but taking a really hard horror strain on it, so we've been told. Yeah, we saw the trailer. Yeah, very good trailer.
B
Damn. Christmas Day is the werewolf episode and it's only me on the schedule right now. That's tough.
A
That's the big release on Christmas Day right now. Unless you want to wait to cover Ebenezer the Christmas Carol Story starring Johnny Depp.
B
Remember when Johnny Depp came on stage at Cinemacon? That was so dark, deranged, and people lost their minds.
A
I loved it.
C
Special bonus Christmas episode. The Rohirrim movie.
A
The War of the Rohirrim.
C
Watch along.
B
Oh, that would be fun.
A
I couldn't get through that movie. The animated Lord of the Rings movie.
B
I thought there was a new one that's not. Is it also animated?
A
No, you're talking about the Hunt for Gollum.
C
It's the fucking Hunt for Gollum.
B
And is that coming out this year?
A
I think it's 28. Isn't the hunt for Gollum 28?
C
And who just signed up to do that?
A
It's directed by Andy Serkis.
C
Yeah, but somebody just signed on for it.
B
That I was like, hunt of Gollum.
A
I think it's Gollum. Gollum signed on. He's participating.
B
Okay, hold on. It's been delayed till December 2027, according to Reddit.
C
For information.
B
Listen, we have a bid.
C
Sean, I can't watch you browse Me not.
A
I'll save.
B
What do you want from it? What am I doing wrong?
C
I don't even know what these search results are. How do you not have it instantaneously?
B
Like, here's I have a Gollum movie because I don't let AI do the work for me. Claude, get the fuck out. You know Gemini? No bad branding.
A
$5 for Clayface.
C
10 bucks. I don't really need it.
A
But don't you want.
C
I do. I. I.
A
$575.
C
I'll bet $100 then for Clay, $105.
A
Amanda's not getting involved.
C
I'm going to let you.
B
I'm honestly reading an Esquire roundup of what's everything we know about the hunt for Gollum.
A
What's the latest? Who's hunting. Who's hunting him?
B
December 17, 2027. Okay, great. And what's happening here? What's the big. No. What's the big idea? This is incredible blogging. It will sit between the Hobbit and the Fellowship of the Ring with its main story. I don't know. I was reading ahead.
C
Do you understand that like there's like a giant autoplay video playing and she's
B
got like what a. Like what the. Do you want me to do differently?
C
It's just get a ad blocker.
B
Which one? And I'll.
C
I will do it for you. It's like. It's like watching my parents surf the web. It's crazy.
B
I don't really use the Internet that much on this computer.
A
I'm going to take this for 105.
C
Yeah, do that, do that.
B
It unfolds after Bilbo's 111th birthday party.
A
Bilbo Baggins.
B
Yeah. So happy birthday to him.
A
And before
B
he's so mad because a video about Robin Williams is playing before the fellowship reaches the minds of Moria.
C
Yeah, more ear.
B
Do you do protein milk? We've got an ad for protein. Why aren't you here?
A
Pronounce any of the words?
B
Well, I don't know.
A
What is the ration?
B
What if this. That was me reading ahead and getting too excited. What is the minds of Moria?
C
That's where the dwarves live.
B
I. If I know what that is, I don't read this. But I would do a watch along with you.
A
You say you're a classics major, meanwhile. Well, listen, stands astride history.
B
I've told you many times though that my Greek professor did like stop Greek one day and was like let's learn Elvish instead and started diagramming Elvish in the ways that it's based on Greek and Latin. She was really cool. Margaret, shout out Margaret Graves. Okay, I don't remember anything about.
A
We've got.
B
Making sure that was her name.
A
We've got a fascinating moment here now.
B
I was right.
A
I've got four movies. Chris has got four movies. Amanda's got three movies. She has the least amount of money left left. Chris and I. I have 580 and Chris has 574.
B
Margaret Graver. Margaret Graves is an art historian.
A
You gotta. So you Gotta put a movie on the board, and if you get it, it's your last movie. If you don't get it, then you could still have another chance to put another movie up.
C
A lot of the movies that I wanted, I've either gotten or they've been taken. And I don't really want to do one where you guys can't bid or can't get involved. But I'm tempted. The last one I had on my long list is Hope.
B
Okay.
A
Na Hong Jin's new film.
C
I don't know. What do you feel like that could be Best Foreign Film Oscar?
A
No, that's not a judgment on the film. But I do not think it will be in the running. And if it is, then we are ushering in a wonderful new era. Yes, then things are changing at the Oscars in exciting ways.
C
I can't nominate any sequels. I. What am I gonna do here?
B
We had a lot of fun at the Hope premiere.
A
Hope is a blast. And I think Hope is gonna be even better when they start tweaking it up a little bit before it's released. But it is a 2 hour and 40 bug hunt movie set in South Korea. Or maybe not in South Korea. Who knows where it's set? They didn't tell me that also features Michael Fassbender and Alicia Vikander and Taylor Russell. Sort of. Sort of all three of them. I mean, what about Werewolf? It's not a sequel.
C
What about Werewolf?
B
What about Werewolf? What do you know about werewolves? What is your personal relationship with that mythology?
C
I think that the silver bullet technology is a bit much. That that's what it takes to kill them.
A
Mm. I think that's a relatively recent. I think that's a cinematic invention.
C
Oh, not a. I don't think it's a literary. Well, let's. Let's. That's a great idea, Amanda. Okay, werewolf for $5.
B
That was Sean's idea. Sean, thank you for passing that to me.
A
Fucking right here. This guy's thinking about Brie Larson.
C
$5 for werewolf, $15. Okay.
A
I mean, you know, whatever. Why not?
B
Why not? Like what? You like, just let me go on vacation?
A
$25.
B
No, I'm not gonna do it. Instead, I.
A
What are you holding out for?
C
Don't you only have three movies?
B
Yeah, but I have some other ideas here, and I don't want you guys would then saddle me with Werewolf, and then I'm like, great, now I got this werewolf to be responsible for $40, you know, and I don't really.
A
I gotta raise this werewolf. How much?
C
40.
A
40 bucks.
B
Werewolves aren't real and wolverines aren't.
A
Are.
C
Yes.
A
Okay, well, we don't know about werewolves.
B
Do you feel like. Like, tell me about your. How many wolverines have you seen?
C
I think that they are in the badger and beaver family, right?
B
Yeah.
C
Slightly more feral, slightly more dangerous, but not really.
B
It's like a land seal is what.
C
Guess what I did last night.
A
Tell me how like a land seal.
C
I protected a cap from the coyote.
B
What? Give me everything. Tell me the break down, the strategy.
C
The coyotes in my neighborhood have gotten quite aggressive.
A
$55.
C
5. And they come out like at dusk, and they're really in the mix. And there's a street near. Near me that we affectionately refer to as Cat street because there's a lot of cats.
B
Okay.
C
And there is a cat on that street.
A
You and Bri, who. Who's talk.
C
Who's had this conversation? I. I call Scritches, but I don't know what its name is. And a coyote was like, coming for it and I said, stop. So you shut us.
A
Yeah.
C
You shall not pass.
B
Yes.
A
65.
B
That Lord of the Rings thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
C
You seen it?
B
Yeah, once.
A
Gandalf.
B
I did. Okay.
A
He's. He's standing before Balrog, the ancient fire demon.
B
Okay. What are the tree people's names and. No, but like
C
75.
A
Okay, 75. What movie are we bidding on? Werewolf.
B
Why can't we do a watch along to one of the Hobbit movies? That's funny.
A
Mallory would probably assassinate you, I think, if you did that.
B
That's fine.
C
I was suggesting the Rowhirim, but that's probably.
A
I don't want to watch that. I don't want to watch that. I mean, look, I want to make more content about Lord of the Rings. I'm just going to say it out loud. I just said it's a bill on the rewatchables last week. I'm trying, you know, I just. I think they're very special. Those first three films, the Hobbit films. I don't know what happened. Something happened. It isn't good. The first three. I'll say 80 bucks. I'm fascinated by Werewolf. I hope it's good. I can't shake Chris's Wes Anderson insight, but I'm one of those people who's like, you're not seeing the Wes Anderson movie.
B
I know Wes Anderson.
C
It wasn't an insult.
B
Wes Anderson is more excited to talk to you on podcasts, though. So that is one thing.
A
He was lovely to talk to on podcasts.
B
To you. To you.
A
He was a great guest, and he'd been somebody I'd always wanted to talk to. Rob Eggers is a really nice guy. It's not about that. It's more just that he's like. Like I'm clearly annoying him.
C
Do you think it would be insane if, in this auction, we started opening it up to, like, multiple years and we were, like, drafting, like, the next Scorsese movie and shit?
A
Oh, sheesh.
C
Well, I think it's, like, a 24.
B
Sorry, I was. Look, I was reading about how this movie is going to feature early modern English, so I wasn't listening. So what did you say about Scorsese?
C
Like, what if we started bidding on things that were also 27? Like, open the drafting.
A
Okay. Is what happens at night gonna be the same? Could that come out this year? It finished production.
B
It's June 30th, and they say that it's, like, smaller in scope. Right. Well.
C
And who's putting that out? Apple.
A
It's Apple. I don't know.
B
Apple has two.
A
We're over 30 seconds.
C
85. Apple has two other films coming out. They have a Sean what's Her Face, Koda, Sean Hayter.
A
That's Being Human.
C
I was just trying to get that.
B
Okay, great.
C
And Tenzing. What's that about?
A
Don't know.
C
That's what it's called.
A
Yeah. T, E N Z, I, N G. Yeah. That's been on the docket for a long time. They have more movies than that coming out. Mayday is coming out with Ryan Reynolds.
C
You know what we didn't do? And maybe we can revisit it When Amanda Goes on Vacation is into the Gray.
A
You know, I haven't seen it.
C
I think it's not that bad.
A
That's a great place to start. We're at 30 seconds, 95. Is there a garbage nomenclature that we could. In the gray.
B
Garbage Wolves.
C
Late Richie.
A
Garbage Richie.
C
What if we just did Late Richie?
A
I feel like we've done that about, like, five times. I'll do it again.
C
I'll always do it with you.
A
If I need to revisit Guy Ritchie's the Covenant, I will revisit it.
B
Wasn't there another one that came out this year that we didn't?
C
There was an Alan Ritchson movie that came out last year.
A
There's one coming out later this year, I think, called wife and dog.
C
100 bucks.
B
Okay.
A
Wife and Dog?
B
Yeah.
A
That's the name of your modern literary podcast.
C
Wife and book 105.
A
This is not a Guy Ritchie movie.
C
How much money does Sean have left? 580.
A
More than you.
C
And how much money do I have left?
A
I believe 574.
B
This is a normal way to spend it.
C
I just. You know what it is. I just, I thought I would get more out of drafting things that you guys had seen and being like, nah. But it really doesn't. It doesn't hit like. It doesn't hit the same.
B
No, it's not. Yeah, it's not as fun.
C
$200.
B
Oh, okay.
A
Wow. I'm going to think about that for a minute. Werewolf.
B
Wait, what are you saving your money for?
A
I don't know if I have a movie that's going to get it to 85.
B
Oh, and you don't think Werewolf will. You think that everyone will appreciate the technical achievements.
C
But this is the problem is he's seen too many things.
A
Yeah, that is the problem. What do you think Nosferatu's Metacritic score is?
C
72.
A
What do you think?
B
74. I think it's probably right around there.
A
78.
B
Yeah.
A
We're at 30 seconds. I think you can take it.
B
So we need just one movie with Metacritic over 85. Okay.
A
And I gotta figure out what that is.
B
Okay.
A
Now is the odyssey Getting over 85? That's the thing.
C
We don't know. Yeah, I think so.
B
I don't, I don't know.
A
I want to throw this out there. There's a chance for a backlash with the Odyssey. I'm not saying it's not going to do well. I'm not saying it's not going to be good, but there's a chance for a backlash.
C
They tried already.
B
Yeah, they tried already.
A
No, that was like a, that was like a anti woke thing.
C
Oh, you just think people are going to see it and be like, nah, try again.
A
There's just so much hype.
C
Snooze.
A
Now obviously Oppenheimer defeated that fascinatingly. Like that was a historical drama that he drove to $980 million or whatever. That was amazing that that happened. And this is not me wearing my like Nolan Hayter hat. Like, I'm actually just kind of curious
B
this A week after 6, 6 out of 10 is like an interesting test for you of like, I know you want to be right, but you also wanna, you know.
A
No, it's more like, like if I'm considering can it get to 85? He's also now it be like critically as acclaimed.
C
He would be on a what, like eight year, like undefeated run of, of commercial and Critical, I guess Tenant is looked at as like a misstep, but that was more Covid than anything. And we.
A
Right now, Variety. Variety says these are the top 10 Oscars contenders.
B
Okay.
C
Michael.
A
Michael is literally on the list. Wild Horse 9, the Social Reckoning. I don't believe that for a second project. Hail Mary, the Odyssey, La Bola negra, Fjord, Dune Part 3, Digger, and the Debut.
B
I mean, that's, you know, past performance is no indication of future performance for a couple of those. But. But it's also. It's a. At this point in the year, we're always like, there are five that we're sure of and five we have no idea. And so that's. That seems like some decent guessing. Some of those will, some of those won't. This is a fascinating podcast.
C
Do you think that it's.
B
Does he have a pick now? Do I have what's happening?
A
I have a pick because Chris doesn't need to take another spot.
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A
So. But my question is, do I. Do I take the debut as my bid for a chance at 85, which is likely to be an Oscar movie?
C
Have you heard anybody who's seen it? Do you know any word on it?
A
Nope. My gut tells me I'll see it at Telluride. I have no confirmation on that, but that's where it feels like it'll premiere.
C
Did you see Jesse Eisenberg very deftly handling?
B
He said it's what Aaron Sorkin and he was like, I do not want
C
to be associated with that character as there's a Minions poster behind him. Did you also see that Michael Mann went to the Minions premiere?
B
I didn't. Did he review it?
C
Michael Mann?
B
Yeah.
C
I don't even know where he would have gotten.
B
I don't know. I just.
C
I think he took his family, who must be Minions fans.
A
The other movie that I could take that I think he's gonna get. 85 is Wildwood.
B
Okay.
A
Which is the animated movie that. Travis Knight's second film of the year after the Masters of the Universe situation.
B
Okay.
A
I didn't realize this until I was in the bookstore. I knew that Wildwood was based on a book. I didn't realize it was written by Colin Malloy, the lead singer of the Decembrists, and he wrote this.
C
One of your favorite bands.
A
Not a band I love, but a doorstopper novel.
B
Okay.
A
That's like a 500 page novel that I bought and I started reading that to Alice last week. Very good. Maybe a little mature.
B
I was gonna say it's a graphic novel. You're just reading a 500 page novel.
A
It's a proper novel. But it's like Harry Potter though. I mean, it's the same thing.
B
Oh, I see. Okay. I didn't.
A
It's sort of like. It's sort of ya.
B
Okay.
A
Sort of in that like 8 to 14 range. And the movie looks amazing. I think it is the trailer of the year. I know you guys don't care about stop motion animation, but the trailer is just breathtaking. And I think it's going to be a great. I think it has a chance to be a great film. Okay, I know you don't care.
B
Well, do you think that people will hold Masters of the Universe and other things against Travis Knight?
A
Critically, I don't think so. I don't think people even know who Travis Knight is. Really.
B
Don't you think the critics though, who are registered on Metacritic now. I'm just trying to help you here. I'm not going to get in the mix with you on this. And you have more money than me.
A
I think they have a Brie Larson voice.
C
You're trying to decide between Wildwood and the debut.
B
Can't believe I'm in the position of defending animation critics being like, that's rude.
A
Of course they know who Travis Knight is because he led the LYCA for a long time and has directed animated features for sure. I don't know. There's got to be another movie out there like Clarissa, which was at Cannes but we didn't see it is a movie I'm curious about.
B
You mentioned Tenzing right now you're looking for 85.
A
I'm 85. Hunting. I mean, what else is out there?
C
When does your mother. Your mother, Your mother come out?
A
It's in the fall. Haven't seen that yet either. Yeah, that's Bassam Tariq.
B
Yeah.
A
It's basically Maharshwali's film. Just like let's make a movie, which I'm excited about. Yeah. Lobola Negra is exactly the movie I would have taken if I were not at Cannes.
B
You know, this is very boring. But I left and so I have two Cannes titles in my back pocket that I'm gonna do and.
C
Yeah.
A
Although I don't think I was getting 85 either.
B
No, but there's another one that I think will and you know. And away I go. As soon as you conclude and I'm trying to be supportive here for you.
C
I think that you should pick the debut
A
because I'm team Eisenberg.
C
Yeah.
B
I think I'M also team Eisenberg.
C
Jesse.
B
Yeah.
C
I want to see him continue to make films. This.
A
Out of respect to Jesse eisenberg, I'll pay $100 for the debut.
B
Okay. And then you just leave the other 480 on the table. Out of respect for Jesse Eisenberg also.
A
That's right.
B
Okay.
C
We may need to eventually address the fellow.
B
Okay. Why?
A
Well, we didn't drive each other up enough on other films.
C
I know, I know.
A
That was the move.
C
The triggers and the. You guys going to Cannes next time. Just don't go to Cannes. We'll have a more exciting pod.
A
What are we gonna do together in that time? You're gonna go somewhere else. You don't care. We'll just stay home while you go. Why don't you go to Cannes?
B
You know what was not auctioned even by you.
C
What?
B
In either auction, speaking of Cannes, was her private hell, which you skipped. And you still have not seen, like, where you're. You could have come. You could have been.
C
I really didn't appreciate his disrespect of this film. And it's actually like a sore spot. It's a little bit of a well done.
B
You could have bought it and you didn't.
C
I think that it sounds like NWR really empowered those actresses to have creative equity in the movie. And I'm surprised that you dismissed it.
A
The film is now, in my mind, part of a 10 movies we missed episode that will air later in July.
C
Fucked up.
A
Well, it's not good. I don't know what to say. I was with you on Copenhagen Cowboy.
B
Yes, you could have been there in Cannes leading the charge. You were aware.
C
I could not have.
B
Why not?
C
I went to Portland and I also. I'm on like 10 blocks.
B
There was a third bedroom, you know, there was. You would have had to share a bathroom with not me. But that's. We could have made it happen.
A
One thing I didn't know any of the can podcast discussions was the size of the bathroom that I used. Not.
B
Not large, but you got the shower.
C
Did you give any shower?
B
Yeah, I. So I took the larger bedroom and then I took the bathroom with just the bathtub and the shower head. So. Yeah, so he actually got a shower.
A
Much nicer bathroom, though.
B
Well, I'm sorry.
C
Spacious.
B
We can rearrange it next time, you know, whatever. You could not have fit into the bathtub.
A
Fucking Ren. My own chateau. That's what I'm. Great.
C
That'd be dope.
B
Okay.
A
Okay. So you believe in her private hell, but you Chose not to spend any money.
B
It was beautiful tiling in that.
C
I mean, there's plenty of films that I got. I X'd myself out of. Nobody took Avengers Doomsday thought about it. Nobody took.
A
I mean, you guys couldn't take sequels, so there were not many opportunities to take that film.
B
You did the debut for $100. Oh, okay. Shall I do mine very quickly and then we can.
A
Yeah, do yours?
B
Yeah. So with. So I've done the math. So for $88, I'm going to take Minotaur, directed by Andrey Zbashinev, which won the. What's the second one? Grand Prix. The Grand Prix at Cannes. And it's a remake of the Unfaithful Wife and then also unfaithful and. But set in the. Against the backdrop of the Russian War. What?
A
Landry Shamit signs new four year deal to remain with the New York Knicks. Come on, baby.
C
It's gonna be such a hard comedown for you.
A
Let's go.
C
I can't wait to document it.
A
I'll never come down. I'll never come down. We already won.
B
And then for $87, La Bolo Negra, which is another film that I did not see at Cannes because I went to celebrate my 10th wedding anniversary.
A
Acquired by Netflix and a sweeping Penelope magisterial film.
C
What a year for her so far.
A
She has a very small role in the movie, but unforgettable. As is Glenn Close. Less memorable.
C
Does she play a wife?
A
No, she plays a literary historian, much like myself.
C
Yeah.
B
Yeah.
A
Well, I think she's a bit more seasoned. I like La Bolo Negra.
B
Yeah. You texted me afterwards and I'm like this. It really knocked me out. And you said it wasn't perfect, but I was jealous. I was really upset that I missed both of those at Cannes spanning story.
A
So it takes place across three timelines in Spain and it's like twice in
B
2030.
A
Is it based on a rocket novel? No, it has a lot of Spanish poet history. It. And one of the timelines is sort of not present day, but maybe 2017. And it's, you know, three different queer characters, three gay men over those periods of time and how they intersect with the fascist.
B
Oh, it's based on like a unfinished Frederico Garcia Lorca. That's what I was saying.
A
Yeah. It isn't like, based on it.
B
Inspired by. Inspired.
A
Inspired.
B
Inspired.
A
Inspired by. Yes. Inspired by.
B
Sorry. So. So would it have been eligible in the 2010 redraft?
A
Oh, because of the parameters of that.
B
Sure. Yeah.
A
It's all like a tangled series, like Chicken Wire up here with the different rules that I've created for all these games.
B
Yeah.
A
And I'm doing my best. I know you guys are doing your best too, and I appreciate you playing along.
C
I think we are doing our best.
A
Can you, well, just create a game? Like, create one game?
C
I think that my value, my value proposition is to be ready to play any game, but I don't come up with the games.
A
But here's the thing. Will you create a game?
B
You want me to create a game?
A
Yeah, I just asked you that.
B
Well, there are many other games that could be played. I still think that what's. What could have been as result.
C
You know what?
B
No, no. Like, you guys are such an assholes. I think what you want to say is you don't actually like playing games. I love playing Heads Up Up. And I think Heads up is very fun. Excuse me.
C
I, I, I'm trying. I know.
B
I am visualizing whatever happened today.
C
For visualizing.
B
Let's just restart, you know, let's see.
C
Would Heads up work as a podcast?
B
I don't know. I mean, there's probably, like a video way that you could set it up where the audience could see it, but the other people can't. I think I'm our blind listeners behind Heads Up. Okay.
A
I guess that's the thing, is how many people are actually listening versus how many people are actually watching. I don't know the answer to that question.
B
Yeah.
A
If what happens at night comes out, we're gonna feel stupid.
B
We are.
C
Yeah. But who can be blamed? I mean, like, we were working with the best information we can here. Right.
B
I think we feel stupid a lot of the time when we look at our auction results six months later.
A
It's very true.
B
I think that's part of the exercise.
A
Here are the films that I listed that went undrafted.
B
Okay. Unauctioned.
A
Unauctioned. Avengers. Doomsday, you mentioned.
B
Yeah.
A
Tony. The Anthony Bourdain, Matt Johnson biography.
C
Although probably not going to hit a lot of the triggers.
A
Probably not. But in terms of movies, I'd like to potentially have my slate. I mentioned Wildwood. We talked about Street Fighter. The great beyond from J.J. abrams.
C
Did you say we talked about Street Fighter? Did we talk about Street Fighter?
A
We did. Amanda and I were discussing it while you were, I don't know, jerking off or whatever.
B
I thought that's a drive by. I thought that it was.
A
You were talking. You didn't listen.
C
Oh, you were talking about on this podcast, Street Fighter.
A
Yeah, it Came off. Amanda said that was one of the better freaking.
B
Still do that.
A
Video game trailers do.
B
I think you can still jerk off after you have a vasectomy. It just doesn't have any of the stuff in it.
A
And of course you can jerk off after you have a vasectomy. What are you talking about?
C
Nobody would get a vasectomy. How do you use that?
B
Can't you jerk off after you get your nuts cut?
A
That's not.
C
That's. That's a metaphor.
A
You're misunderst.
C
Yeah, it's a figure of speech for
B
like, we had a big conversation.
C
Nut. Cutting time. Are you going to step up?
A
Yeah. You said you made a proclamation that you understood how these things work after Jackass.
B
I said that I'm learning, and there are things that I do know and things I don't know.
A
You're the mother of sons.
B
I know. That's what I'm saying. I do. Most of the time I'm just like, hey, Zach, can you come check that? That looked normal.
A
You're gonna have a crazy next 15 years.
B
I know you.
A
It's gonna destroy you. You have no idea what these boys are capable as.
B
I think we. We learned. It is destroying me on a weekendly basis. Okay? And now, like, here I am, ready to Hank, and he's just like, no selling me everywhere because I don't have the right ad blocker installed.
C
No, I'm not. No selling. I think you. You need to start looking at us for what we are, which is your refuge.
B
That's what I was trying.
C
It's your sanctuary.
B
And I was trying to sit, suggest fun games and talk to you about your macros and your weightlifting.
C
I. I'm just in a sensitive place with it because I'm just not sticking with it enough. I'm not consistent.
B
Well, that's why I think you should come do something that's more portable with me in the hotel. You know when you were saying you watched the Hunger Games, Ballad of Song, whatever, in the hotel room. No. Do a Sodo Method instead. Buddy.
C
Did you already find the spot in Toronto in which to do it?
B
I do have several recommendations for Pilates, but you've already told me you're not open to in class. Pilates, Pilates experience. So a bunch of Canadian women and
C
me and a Pilates.
A
Do you want to come over and Google image search Brie Larson with me? Other films. So, the Great pillow, directed by J.J. abrams. That's Gracie Abrams's dad, in case you guys are wondering who he is. Your mother Your mother. Your mother. You mentioned Godzilla -0.
B
I thought about it.
C
Sequel.
A
Yeah. Yeah, I'm pretty excited about that. We also saw some stuff from that.
B
I didn't. I missed it. You missed that because that's my set. Once again, once a trip, I fuck up my alarm.
A
Oh, right.
B
And that. Because I don't like. Zach wakes me up every day.
C
Oh, my God.
B
Yeah. With coffee. And that's why I married him and not Jacob Elori. But that's the only reason it was 50.
C
50. And Zach came in with the last second offer.
B
Yeah, but so I. I always fuck up the alarm. I set up for, like, AM instead of PM or, you know, turn it off.
A
There's her private hell. And then there's a place in hell, which is Daisy Edgar Jones. Michelle Williams.
B
Oh, that's Chloe Doman's next movie, which
A
is a Christmas release as well. That looks fun. Sense and Sensibility, you got any thoughts on that?
C
That is also Daisy Edgar Jones.
A
It is Correct. Big year for her.
B
Have you seen the 1995 Sense and Sensibility?
C
For sure.
B
Okay.
A
I have.
B
Good.
C
I get them mixed up. Like a lot of the Austins, I get a little mixed up. There's Emma.
B
Yeah.
C
There's Pride and Prejudice.
B
Keep going.
C
Sense and Sensibility.
B
Yeah. There are three more. Do you know those?
C
Mansfield Park.
B
Yeah. You got two more. One's a place.
C
North Ranger Abbey.
B
Yep. And one more. And one more. Which is a classic.
C
Is it a woman's name?
A
Persuasion.
B
Yes.
C
Yeah.
B
There you go. Together, you did it. And I'm proud of what I never would have gotten.
A
North Ridge Abbey.
B
North Ranger. North Ranger. Or Northanger.
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know that one.
B
You caught up on the plot of Pride and Prejudice since we last spoke?
A
Probably not.
B
Okay.
A
Pride and prejudice is Mr. Darcy.
B
Yes.
A
Yeah, I know that one.
B
Okay.
C
Since it.
B
Sensibility is Eleanor and Marianne dashwood sisters. And Mr. Willoughby. Yeah.
C
Jane Austen. Could she come up with, like, a different plot? Doesn't it seem like she kind of ran the same one out there a couple times?
A
Boy, I wonder if this gal should get married. What do you think?
C
Let me ask my sister.
A
The cinematic universe.
B
I have a Pilates class to get to. Let's wrap this up. Hext.
A
Disney animated feature, I think. Inspired by Jane Austen. Right.
B
Cool. Yeah. She loves witches.
C
She's actually bad. Jane Austen.
B
Suffolk.
A
That was good. Some of the best stuff. Do you ever wish you had a sister?
C
Do you think it would change me?
A
I do.
B
I do. Yeah.
C
What's.
A
What do you think's Wrong with me masturbating.
C
I think
A
the young people. New Oz Perkins horror film. Also undrafted. Fatherland. We mentioned Teenage sex and death. Yeah, yeah.
B
We weren't.
C
Well, I regret it. I mean, look, I think I got distracted by Clayface. We'll go through. I wanted to ask you guys briefly, because I know you have a class, and I. I have to attend to some personal matters. Does this make you guys. Looking at all these. Looking at our remaining films, do you feel excited for the rest of the year?
B
Cannes made it harder to feel excited
A
because it took a bunch of stuff off the table that I look forward to. I catch up on a lot of the Cannes movies historically, in Telluride, So now I'm not gonna have to watch any of those movies, which makes conquering Telluride easier, but it makes the year a little bit less. Like, the Secret Agent was one of my favorite movies of last year, and I had to wait many months after that movie premiered at a festival to see it. And then I saw it, and I was able to watch it again, and I liked that. And maybe there'll be a ton of great stuff at the fall film festivals this year. I do think that there's a couple things that are kind of make or breaky on the year. Like Digger. A lot is riding on that movie. And if we don't love it, or even if only one of us likes, makes it a little less fun to talk about.
C
I think if Cliff Booth was coming out in theaters, that would make it feel a little bit different. There's something strangely not anticlimactic, but I think it's like. It'll just feel like it's gone in a weekend, no matter what it is.
A
Yeah, it's two weeks, but I know what you mean.
C
And is it going wide, or is it just in select days?
A
I think it's in a thousand IMAX screens.
C
Okay, well.
A
Which is an experiment that we'll probably spend a lot of time talking about on the show. But even cover. It's like. I guess you cover that the day it comes out. Right. Cause it's such a huge movie for all of us.
B
I think so. And also holiday weekend of it all. Yeah, I'm excited, you know, but it's great. I like it when movies come out, and I like to. And I get to see them.
A
I like it, too. Okay, Chris, you went first. Why don't you do your slate?
C
Can you scroll down a little bit? Thanks, bud. I got wild horse 9 for $110. Whale fall for $310 papered tiger for $5 and fjord for $1. And I should note that I got those for so little because they have already been seen by two of my competitors.
B
They'll definitely tell everyone on Instagram that. That. So I'll do that.
C
I'll do a forward fac. I've never done a forward facing video.
B
Okay.
C
And I will do that for.
B
That would be excellent.
A
James Gray, just to give him a heads up.
C
Yes.
A
Okay. Okay.
C
And then did you see that thing where Callum Turner was like, James Gray kept me on the phone for three hours. Yep. Werewolf for $200 is blessed.
A
Okay, I went second, so I'll go. I got Prime Time, the Robert Pattinson vehicle for $75, the end of Oak street for $235. Somehow managed to get Spider Man Brand New Day for 5 bucks, Clayface for $105 and the Debut for $100. I have $480 remaining from my sleep.
B
Okay, well, that's just bad financial planning. I got Behemoth, the new Tony gilroy movie for $715, Here Comes the Flood for $10, Other Mommy for $100, Minotaur for $88, and La Bolo Negra for $87, I believe, because I only had.
A
That is correct. Yeah. Okay.
B
And I have nothing left. Who won emotionally or financially?
A
Who won the year?
C
Uh, well, Did you win?
B
I mean, you have the Odyssey in Spider man, but.
A
I know I don't. But I don't know if I have an 85 on Metacritic. Oh.
B
And if I don't, I lose by the things. Yeah, right.
A
I've got my hundred million dollar movies.
C
I think I might have won possibly.
B
Where do you think you think Fjord will get your.
C
Fjord will get an Oscar. I think Wild Horse Nine could get an Oscar.
B
Where's your 85 coming from?
C
Fjord.
B
But I don't know. It could get mad. Yeah, people could get mad. What if it's Whalefall? What if everyone's just like, electric?
A
Best thing ever is when a movie like that gets a high critic score.
B
Well, if it's like the highest version of what it is that actually can critics can meet the moment.
A
We've really been selling Whalefall on this podcast.
B
I know. It better be the best fucking thing that ever happened.
A
I don't know if I can promise that. Okay, well, thank you both for playing another one of my games.
B
Sure.
A
I really appreciate you. I think you're both very special people.
C
Sorry for no selling you.
B
It's okay.
C
I just got distracted by the pop up ass. And just the whole not being able to jerk off after a vasectomy. I was wondering what was wrong. Now I know.
A
That was a really weird comment.
B
I said that you could.
A
I'm gonna have a bad dream about that comment.
B
It's getting nervous. Nuts cut. I don't think you'd be able to if your nuts were cut right?
A
You could say, get your nuts cut
C
a few more times.
A
Going forward, just you saying it fewer times, please. Super cut. Thank you to our producer, Jack Sanders, for his work on this episode. Thank you to Lucas Kavanaugh manning the clock and the doc. Next up, the Diane Keaton hall of Fame.
B
Yeah.
C
Okay. Not on that.
B
I gotta go watch a lot of movies.
A
Yeah. Well, we have one week.
B
Mm.
A
I've done some of my work. Fortunately, my dear wife loves herself some diankeet, and so she's been riding shotgun with me while we power through some of these films. I wish you luck with years 2008 through 2025.
B
I said I'd do it.
C
Is Tracy taking the first?
A
Tracy's not participating in this one.
C
Oh, but you've already watched the other ones.
B
Well, I mean, I've seen many Diane Keaton films, and I really thought that I knew everything, but, you know, I missed palms, so that'd be cool if
C
she had, like, a whole red box era that nobody knew about.
B
She does.
A
Kind of does.
B
She kind of does.
A
She has the Elderly Weddings and Other
B
Disasters, starring Diane Keaton, Jeremy Irons, Maggie Grace, Diego Bonetta, and Andrew Bachelor. Me either, but I'm.
A
Before we go, what are your thoughts on Woody Allen?
B
Okay.
A
Okay. Thanks for listening. We'll see you next time on the Big Picture. Sam.
Date: July 2, 2026
Host(s): Sean Fennessey and Amanda Dobbins
Guest: Chris Ryan
In this lively episode, Sean, Amanda, and Chris reunite to conduct their semi-annual fantasy movie auction for the second half of 2026. The trio debates the most anticipated upcoming releases, discusses their film draft strategies, reflects on the first half of the year, and injects plenty of signature humor and personal banter. The episode is loaded with opinions on directors, box office bets, Oscar potential, and the logistics and rules of their evolving movie auction game.
The episode encapsulates the fun, stakes, and uncertainty of forecasting movie success in a constantly-evolving industry. Each host’s tastes and tactics, filtered through the new rules and recent festival experience, make for an engaging “game of movies” and a highly entertaining listen. With fast-paced, witty banter, well-placed industry insight, and plenty of absurd tangents, this is emblematic Big Picture fare—for movie obsessives who like their punditry with a heavy dose of humor and humility.