Red Light Therapy, the Best Morning Routine, and Why Peptides are "Big Pharma's Worst Nightmare," with Gary Brecka | Ep. 1361

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Welcome to the Megyn Kelly show live on Sirius XM channel 111 every weekday at noon East. Hey, everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to the Megyn Kelly Show. Today we have one of the most preeminent health and wellness experts in the world. Gary Brecke is a human biologist, biohacker and influencer who sits at the helm of RFKJ's MAHA Action Committee. The that's Make America Healthy again. Once upon a time, he worked for insurance companies tabulating the expected lifespan of their customers. Now he uses those same skills to help you beat the odds. He has millions of followers on social media. He has a hit podcast, and he is in demand worldwide as an expert in the longevity space. He's founder of the Ultimate Human, a movement designed to help you feel better, look better, and live longer. Naturally. He has many, many prominent fans, including Joe Rogan and UFC president Dana White, who said that quote. To say Gary Breca saved my life is the understatement of the century. When you sign your insurance policy, for some brokers, that's the finish line handshake. They get their commission, and then they're kind of done with you. You may not hear from them again until it's time for renewal, in which case, once again, they're your best friend. That's. That's annoying. But your business runs all year, and so do the gaps and the risk, and things happen. And this is why I want to tell you about Super Sure. If your company has more than 25 employees, whether you're the owner, the CFO or the HR manager. It can be too complex to just buy a policy online. Super sure is the super agency built just for you. It's licensed in every state for your business, insurance and employee benefits with year round support for you and your team. At supersure.com, you can access tools like Fine Print facts, which translate your current policy into plain English so you see what's covered and what's not. Plus a business value calculator so that you can estimate what your business is worth and know what actually needs protecting. Go to supersure.comMegan1 Super Agency1 powerful platform. All your policies in one place. Supersure.comMegan paid for by Super Sure Insurance Agency, LLC, a licensed insurance agency. Gary Brecka, welcome back to the show. Great to see you.

Gary Brecka

I'm so excited to be back. Megan. We had such a great time last time. I felt like our time got cut too short. So maybe we'll have time to take a deep dive on some things today.

Megyn Kelly

Same. There is so much I want to ask you about. Let's just start at the beginning. And by that I mean this morning, the Gary Breckham morning routine. Go.

Gary Brecka

Yeah. You want me to just rip it?

Megyn Kelly

Yeah, let's rip it.

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Gary Brecka

So I have a, I call it bookending your sleep. You know, so I have specific sleep hygiene that I use to go to bed and the same thing to wake up. The thing about this routine is that it's easy, it's portable, you can do it anywhere in the world. I've proven it number of times by sharing my sleep scores onto Instagram. You know, last year, I think when I did 14 cities in 18 days and was able to maintain 88% and higher sleep scores, even though I was changing time zones every day for 14 days, people's ears perked up and they started to listen. Because the truth is that sleep is our human superpower. And so I bookend it by using the same routine to go to bed and the same routine to wake up. So morning routine is within 30 minutes of waking. Every day I find my way outside into natural sunlight. You know what's fascinating about natural sunlight is that it doesn't get the credence that it deserves. Sunlight. Certain wavelengths that are only in natural sunlight that are constant on, they're flicker free. I'm not talking about through a window. I'm not talking about through your drapes. I'm talking about exposing your eyes to natural sunlight. This helps set your circadian cycle. So we actually have a clock in Our brain, it's called the suprachiasmatic nucleus. It's a very sophisticated name for basically the puppeteer in your brain that is setting your circadian rhythm. And what's so important about circadian rhythm is that this is what governs your menstrual cycle in a female. This is what governs your sleep and wake cycle in all human beings. When your cortisol rises, when your melatonin calms down, this actually governs your digestive tract. It actually sends signals to your digestive tract that you're awake and peristalsis can begin, which is why most people don't use the restroom and have a bowel movement at night. They usually have it first thing in the morning. And so their circadian clock is so important not just to longevity, but it's very important to how well we sleep that night. The one thing that you can do that is absolutely free to ensure that you get a good night's sleep tonight is get sunlight in your eyes this morning. So within 30 minutes of waking, I'm outside, I'm in natural sunlight. I realize people live in cold climates, they live in dark climates. This light does penetrate through the clouds, so it doesn't matter if it's overcast. Get outside in sunlight. And I do three rounds of 30 obnoxiously deep breaths. And at the end of each round of deep breaths, I. I do a prolonged breath hold. And the science behind this is very valid. In fact, if you really want to be blown away by what breath work can do to the human body, regulate the immune system, tap into our autonomic nervous system, just watch the documentary on Wim Hof called the Iceman, and you will become a believer in breath work. I think because sunlight and breath work are free, people don't allocate it the same level of validity that it deserves. So I'll do three rounds of 30 breaths at the end of my 30th breath. And I would encourage you, if you're a novice, to breathwork, just start with five breaths. I do an extended breath hold. And the reason for that is it allows the carbon dioxide to build up in my bloodstream. Carbon dioxide is the main vasodilator in the human body. The reason why we get vascular when we go to the gym and exercise is because of the CO2 going back to the lung. And so we want to dilate that vasculature first thing in the morning. This is a very simple way for us to wake up. And our bodies are creatures of habit. They crave routine, you know, when you want your body to trust you, you do the same thing at the same time every day. Give it some consistency. Something that when you're traveling or when you're in a different time zone or when you're staying in a different environment, sleep environment, you're at a hotel, you're at an in laws house, something that your body can cue into to know this is time to wake up. And if you make yourself get into sunlight within 30 minutes of waking, do three rounds of five to 10 to, to 30 deep breaths with an extended breath hold in between. If you do that consistently for seven days, you will never miss another day. It will become your new drug of choice because nothing will make you feel better for longer. It improves your mood, improves your emotional state, gets oxygen to our tissues, gets our digestive tract going, spikes our cortisol, reduces our melatonin and sets us up for a great night's sleep that night. You know, it's really fascinating too and we can get into more detail on this. But if you look at autoimmune disease as a category 85% of all autoimmune disease is found in females. And why is that? It's not because autoimmune disease is selective by sex, it's selective by weakness. And very often women especially do not feel safe in their own bodies. And by safety, I mean out of the fight or flight response. Our nervous system, which is regulating everything, not the least of which is cycling in women. Our nervous system has two states. One is called the sympathetic state, the fight or flight state. One is called the parasympathetic state, the rest and digest state. You want to be in a parasympathetic state to wake up, to go to bed, to digest food, to regulate your hormone cycle. So some of these things that we do tell our body that it's safe things are okay. This is a routine that you can rely on, that you can learn to trust. And those habitual patterns are something that if you build over a lifetime will pay tremendous dividends.

Megyn Kelly

Oh, that's fascinating. Now tell me about you. You mentioned it doesn't matter if you live in a cold environment or an environment where it's dark. You know, our friends in Alaska, for example. But you know, typically during the school year, most parents wake up at 6am in that hour because they have kids that they have to get off to school and, and it's dark everywhere. Pretty much everywhere. It's dark at 6am you're not really getting sunlight. Is the rule the same the rule

Gary Brecka

is the same if you can't get into sunlight within the first half hour because you're waking up too early. Then after you drop the kids off at school, spend eight minutes outside facing the sun. You know, allow the sunlight to hit your skin. I don't know if you've seen the recent research that's come out on sunscreen and exposure to sunlight, but the incidence of skin cancer is significantly lower in groups that do not consistently use sunscreen. Now, I'm not talking about bathing in the sun for hours. I'm talking about eight to 12 minutes of direct sunlight. Sunlight has wavelengths. They're constant on wavelengths that pass through your eyes. And they trigger very specific activities in the brain, one of which is to tell the suprachiasmatic nucleus, this master puppeteer, that it's morning, it's time to raise my cortisol.

Megyn Kelly

It.

Gary Brecka

It's time to drop my melatonin. And it puts it onto a very good cycle. You know, we used to sleep and wake with. With the sun. We are so disconnected from the cycle of Mother Earth now. And our schedules are so discombobulated. Sometimes we get up at 6am, sometimes 9am, sometimes 4:30, depending on whether or not we have a flight, we got to get the kids to school, or it's a weekend and we're going to catch up on our sleep. So that consistency gives your body a routine it can rely on. And when you are in dark environments, if you take the kids to school, let's say before the sun rises, when you get back to the house, spend a few minutes outside, do a few rounds of breath work, very simple, go back inside and tell me how good you feel when you start your day.

Megyn Kelly

Can I ask you about the. The studies you mentioned? I thought it was observational, but the. On the sunscreens, because as somebody who's very fair, you know, I'm. I am part Italian. I'm more Irish than I am Italian. Okay, but there's no evidence of the Italian at all.

Gary Brecka

I don't see the Italian in there.

Megyn Kelly

No. My grandfather's name was Angelo di Mayo. I mean, fresh off the boat from Italy. Okay, but nothing. Anyway, nothing. But the temper, that's. I got the temper, the fire, but I didn't get the skin.

Gary Brecka

Yeah, three.

Megyn Kelly

But, you know, everyone in my family has had some form of skin cancer, thank God. No melanoma, but like the basal cells and the squamous and all that stuff. And I actually asked my dermatologist. I'm very, very tuned into skin. She was you know, is this possibly true? Like, should I be not wearing sunscreen and my kids. And she was like, absolutely not. You, you do need to wear the sunscreen and your kids need to wear the sunscreen. And her take on that study was that it's. I don't know how to phrase it, but basically the people who aren't wearing sunscreen tend to be darker skinned people, people who aren't like me, who can tolerate the sun much, much better than the likes of me can. And so, yeah, of course they're not going to over long term. If you study those people, they're going to say, nope, I don't use sunscreen and they're not going to have skin cancer. Whereas if you took a bunch of Irish people like me and put us out there for 30 years without wearing sunblock, our cancer rate would be through the roof. So what do you make of that?

Gary Brecka

That's actually not true. If you actually look at population data, I used to be a mortality expert for a large life insurance company. So study population data, mortality data. I mean, you can make some broad analogies. For example, some of the longest life expectancies in the world are centered right around the equator, 20 degrees. Is it longitude or latitude? Latitude from the equator. It used to be. It's not this way anymore. But historically, as you got closer to the poles, life expectancy was precipitously lower. In fact, when I started my career about 25 years ago, Eskimos, true Eskimos, had the shortest life expectancy of any race on earth. And when you got closer to the equator, you extended life expectancy. So it's not whether or not you can use sunscreen, it's the type of sunscreen that you use. So if you were to actually look at skin cancer trends, because we've known about skin cancer for decades, before the advent of aerosol sunscreens and topical sunscreens, we knew that there were skin cancer existed. Look at skin cancer rates in the 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s. What you'll find is if you, if you superimpose a chart. Now this is correlated, not causal. So you could call it anecdotal. But if you were to superimpose a chart of the parabolic horizon, skin cancer, it would be superimposable with the parabolic use of sunscreen. Does that mean that you shouldn't be using sunscreen? No, it means that you should be using a type of sunscreen that has titanium dioxide or what's called non nano zinc. You want things that sit on the surface of the skin and reflect sunlight what you don't want. Because the skin is not just a barrier, it is a gate, gateway. It is a gateway directly into the bloodstream. It's the largest organ in our body. And so we eliminate waste through the skin. One of the reasons why sauna is one of the best ways to reduce all cause mortality and cardiovascular disease is because we use the skin to eliminate waste. But it is not just a barrier, it is a gateway. We transmit medications through the skin, patches, creams, sprays. So when you apply sunscreens, para amino benzolic acid and other binders, fillers, agents that are meant to create aerosols, aerosol sprays, those chemicals. And it's not the sunscreen that is the issue itself. It is the chemical carriers in the sunscreen that show up in the, in the bloodstream. And if you look at that study, some of the concentrations of these chemicals, paramino benzoic acid being one of them, PAVA were 400 times the safe allowable limit. And the FDA safe allowable limit. And you would think that if I'm spraying it on my skin, it's not transmissible and, and can't be picked up in the serum of the blood. But that's actually not true. The skin actually transmits a lot of these molecules right through the skin into the bloodstream. So it's the carriers that are taking the sunscreen and making it into an aerosol or making it into a gel that's very easy to spread on your skin. Those carriers, those chemicals transmit right through the skin. They get embedded in the dermal layer of the skin, they also enter the blood. And this is where you have issues with skin cancer. Because all cancer, regardless of its form or its origin, was at one time a healthy cell. So there is no form of cancer that was not initially a healthy cell. So what happened to that cell? It became metabolically sick. It shifted its metabolism. If it happens in the liver, you have liver cancer. If it happens in a lymph node, you have lymphatic cancer. If it happens in the spleen, you have splenic cancer. What causes healthy cells to become sick? Well, very often what causes a healthy cell to become sick? We know radiation can do this, which comes from sun. We also know that chemicals can do this. When we apply harsh chemicals to the skin, we can very often cause an accelerated shift in that cell's metabolism, which is the genesis of cancer. So if you're going to apply sunscreen, and I am actually a fan of sunscreen, there are a lot of Tallow based sunscreens that use non nano zinc. There are sunscreens that use titanium dioxide. These are extraordinarily safe. When I was 19 years old, I was a lifeguard in Ocean City, Maryland. Remember everybody had the white noses and then they came out with colored zinc oxide.

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Gary Brecka

So a lot of us had blue noses, pink noses, whatever. Those sunscreens are extraordinarily safe. You can get them clear now. You can get them in, in gel format and you can get them in pace. So if you're gonna apply sunscreen.

Megyn Kelly

Yeah, because that's the downside of the zinc, is it just. It's so. You're so white. You go from white to even whiter.

Gary Brecka

Yeah, you do look like Casper the friendly Ghost. And just by saying Casper the friendly Ghost, I'm dating myself. I think that show went on 30 years ago.

Megyn Kelly

I'm right there with you.

Gary Brecka

And if you remember it, you're as old as I am. But so these topical sunscreens that have titanium dioxide and zinc oxide, that's the direction you want to go.

Megyn Kelly

Okay. All right, well, got it. That's good to know. But now I'm getting concerned that my long term editorial producer, Debbie Murphy, she lives in Canada, Damn Canada, as we call it. And she's been warning me against putting on the self tanner Gary. For a long time. A long time. You know, when you're pasty though, especially as a woman like, you do tend to want to fight it somehow. What's the solution? We just get a tan or. No, there's a. I never really considered. I never really considered.

Gary Brecka

There's a peptide called melanotanin which will do it naturally and it will activate melanocytes in your skin. Systemically, you'll get an even tan. If you do go in the sun, you will accelerate you're tan. So you'll be the darkest you you've ever.

Megyn Kelly

Stop it right now. This is sci fi.

Gary Brecka

No. Milano tannin. Look it up. Milano tannin. It is a very.

Megyn Kelly

People are taking this and it's where it's making them tan.

Gary Brecka

Oh, no question. And it has a bunch of other positive effects in the body.

Megyn Kelly

But I'm doing this on the air. People are going to watch me tan. How long does it take?

Gary Brecka

And do a follow up Show. In 45 days you're going to look like you're Italian. So now you'll start to fit your heritage.

Megyn Kelly

Yeah, that's amazing. Is it over the counter?

Gary Brecka

Technically you could get it over the counter. It's considered a supplement. But you want to get it from a licensed compound pharmacy. What's called a 503.

Megyn Kelly

That's spectacular.

Gary Brecka

Yeah.

Megyn Kelly

Okay, great. I wish I had invented that. That's very good to know. All right, so wait. A couple of other questions on the morning routine. So the. You get the sunlight, you wake up. Now, here's a question I have for you. A lot of women my age, we don't sleep well. You know, it's like the menopausal process, which I've now found out takes forever.

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Megyn Kelly

Like, the.

Gary Brecka

Can start in your late perimenopause.

Megyn Kelly

Yes. Like 15 years. You're stuck in, like, whatever. Perimenopause or menopause. I don't even know what it is anymore. But you don't sleep well. I don't know anyone my age, female, who sleeps well. So I've told the audience before I did start hrt, which I really like.

Gary Brecka

Good for you.

Megyn Kelly

It's been actually kind of miraculous. And that I do do the estrogen. I do the cream. It's great.

Gary Brecka

Yes.

Megyn Kelly

And I'm so dumb to think, like, of course those hormones can pass through my skin, but I'm fine with a self tanner. Okay, I needed this conversation anyway. So the progesterone, though, it's a problem for me and a lot of my girlfriends. Like, not everybody tolerates progesterone well. It makes me, for example, super bloated. Like, uncomfortably bloated, and I hate it.

Gary Brecka

Right.

Megyn Kelly

So then the doctors are like, well, you can do it iud. I'm like, I don't want to do an iud. I don't want to do any. I'm not sure I want to do any of that crap. But the problem is, if you don't, you have to do progesterone if you're taking estrogen to protect against uterine cancer. That's what the doctors say. But the problem is progesterone makes you uncomfortable. And yet it's the key part of HRT that helps women like me sleep. It's what makes you sleep. It gets you through these menopausal weirdnesses. And I wonder if you have any thoughts on that. Like, is there any solution for women who are between 40 and 60 having sleeping difficulty but who either don't tolerate progesterone well or who just don't want to do hrt?

Gary Brecka

Yes. So first of all, let me back up. This happens to be a core competency of mine, and I think it's one of the most underserved areas of all of modern medicine, is Female hormone therapy, perimenopause, premenopause, and menopause. As you know, the US Food and Drug Administration just recently removed the black box warnings from female hormone therapy because nearly 50 million women suffered for decades because they thought that hormone therapy and specifically estrogen led to an increased risk of breast cancer. We know that that is patently false. You know, if you look at the study that that came from, which was called the Women's Health Initiative, one of the largest hormone studies ever done, it was bastardized and misreported. And essentially what came out of that study was not that there was a 20% concomitant increase in, in breast cancer, there was a 20 relative risk reduction in breast cancer. And that's why I applaud the FDA for that. Marty McCary did that before his tenure ended.

Megyn Kelly

Yes, God bless him.

Gary Brecka

And they removed the black box warnings from female hormone therapy. So let's just back up a little bit and, and let's just talk about what pre menopause and menopause actually is, right? I mean, when you're in menopause, you still have a cycle. It's just that your amplitude is lower. So you have a very high amplitude cycle, very definitive cycles between follicular ovulation and luteal. As you are a menstruating female and as you get older, this amplitude begins to drop. Still have a cycle in menopause, it's just very, very low. So it's important to understand, first of all that this, this cycling decline can begin in your late 30s. And the signs are not things that drive you to the emergency room or take you to the ER or get you over to the urgent care. They are signs like brain fog, weight gain, water retention, poor focus, poor concentration. The hallmark sign is exhaustion upon waking in the morning, which is an inverted cortisol and melatonin cycle, which I'm going to talk about in a second. There is a gold standard test for women. And if your female audience is listening, I think they should write this down because it may completely change their life. There's a gold standard test called a Dutch test. One of the most dangerous things to do in female hormone therapy is to prescribe your entire complement of hormones based on a blood test. Just a simple one time blood test. A blood test is a snapshot in time. A menstruating female, it's perfectly normal for her estrogen to be in the 400s. It's perfectly normal for estrogen to be in the teens. So who's to say that 172 or 210 or 68 or 99 is high or low. Well, you don't know unless you know exactly what stage of her cycle she's in. Follicular ovulation, luteal. And you know whether or not all of those hormones are entering or exiting the cycle together. What happens in these different stages of menopause is that all the hormones in a women's body don't get together in a conference room one day and go, okay, girls, it's been a great run. We're all out of here, right? They get together in the conference room, and estrogen goes, no, no, no, I'm going to stick around a while. Progesterone says, I'm out. Pregnenolone says, I think I'm going to hang out for a few months, and then I'm going to leave. Testosterone's like, I'm totally out of here. I've been in here long enough. So you get this weird cascade of everything from lack of libido to brain fog to weight gain to water retention to mood changes to emotional changes. A female's attraction to their spouse can shift during this period of time. Does it mean that they don't love their spouse? It means that. And very often, sadly, in. In relationships, we. We couple libido and arousal with love and attraction. You can be deeply in love with your spouse, you can be very attracted to your spouse, and you can have no ability to be aroused and no libido. That's usually because free testosterone is low. So these strange things happen where you're like, well, I'm still in love with my significant other. I'm still attracted my significant other. I'm just not aroused. I am. No libido, or you wake up in the morning more exhausted than when you went to bed. Or someone that is extraordinarily organized. This is what happened to my wife. I'd encourage you to go watch the podcast that I did with my wife, Sage, working her, because we went through menopause together. We did the Dutch test, and then she was very transparent, put her entire cascade of hormones. She had every symptom that a female could have all the way through to frozen shoulder, something called adhesive capsule.

Megyn Kelly

I have a friend who has that right now.

Gary Brecka

It's menopause. I will tell you, your friend is between 42 and probably 54 years old. And yes, it's very painful for her to lay it on her shoulder. She probably has a difficult time raising it above level.

Megyn Kelly

Okay, yeah, she just got a shot

Gary Brecka

in it oh boy. She got cortisone. And next recommendation tell her to be very careful, is they're going to recommend manipulation under anesthesia, which is where they actually put her to sleep. And they break those adhesions while she's sleeping. They physically break those.

Megyn Kelly

Oh my gosh.

Gary Brecka

It's called adhesive capsulitis. Within three weeks of starting hormone therapy, her frozen shoulder will be gone. My wife's shoulder went from being raised to here to straight up in the air, no pain. Your friend will also tell you that it's very painful to lay on that shoulder. If she rolls on over on it at night, it will just wake her up and she'll tell you that it's restricted. And then she'll do simple things like she'll bend down the entire shoe and forget that she has this and it will take her to the floor. It's very, very painful. This adhesive capsulitis.

Gary Brecka's Wife or Associate

Wow.

Gary Brecka

This is a byproduct of estrogen metabolism. And if you wanted to have one lever to torture a woman, it would be estrogen. Right? Because as you and, and estrogen is a category of hormones. There's E1, E2, E3, it's called estradiol, estreon, there. These different hormones are high and low at different times in a woman's cycle, in her life cycle, of her menstrual cycle, until she goes into menopause. By moving these estrogen levers, you affect skin elasticity. So all of a sudden they look in here and they're like, I feel like I've aged 10 years and six months. So the elasticity is leaving their skin. Libido crashes, the, the exhaustion. In the morning, they start to retain water. Because remember, the primary role of estrogen is to retain water in the interstitial space. The reason why estrogen goes from a high of about 400 in a menstruating female to a high of about 4, 500 is because when they, when they get pregnant is so that you can retain water, pad the uterus, protect the fetus. So. But when we're older, we don't want to retain water. These women think that they're getting fat and they're not getting fat, they're getting water retensive. This also happens to women that eat in a very narrow feeding women window, which is why one of the most dangerous things that menstruating women can do is intermittent fasting in a very, very narrow feeding window. And you want to frustrate a female when they start intermittent fasting with their spouse, husband's, got all the energy in the world. He's putting on lean muscle, sleeping like a bear, wakes up like a tiger, doing great in the gym. A woman's eating in the same narrow feeding window, can't get out of bed, is starting to get bloated, is also exercising, is barely eating and is gaining weight. You know, that's because you throw off the estrogen cycle and the body starts to retain water. So. So let me walk you through what the solution to this is. The Solution is a 24 hour urine test called a Dutch test. And you do this test once and what it shows is the entire complement of hormones. And don't assume that because some of the hormones are tanking heading into menopause that all of the hormones are tanking. In fact, I'd be very surprised if the reason why you react poorly to progesterone is because your progesterone in its cycle is probably normal. And you may be low on pregnenolone, you may be low on one of the three estradiols, the estrogen hormones. You're almost certainly low on testosterone and free testosterone. So when you treat women for hormone therapy, you replace the entire complement of hormones. We do not shoot women with rifles. In other words, you don't take darts and throw them at hormones. You replace the entire complement of hormones. And the reason for that is because it's called hormone replacement therapy, is that hormones are not cumulative. So I often will open some of my hormone lectures by asking a room full of physicians. Let's say you have two men. One has a testosterone of 200, one has a testosterone of 600, and you're going to put them on hormone therapy. Who gets more testosterone, the guy with 200 or the guy with 600? And the answer is, they get exactly the same amount. Reason for that is as soon as I replace their testosterone, both of their production is going to zero or near zero. Oh, so if I give each of them 200 milligrams of testosterone, they will end in the same place, because hormones.

Megyn Kelly

If a man stops taking testosterone, will his body kick back in and make the testosterone again?

Gary Brecka

Depending on how long he's been taking it. Which is why I'm a much bigger fan of peptides like his peptin, ganatirelin. I'm a big fan of something called enclomophene. These will signal the testicles to increase their production, so then they're high on their own supply. And no matter what anyone tells you, there is no better hormone than one the body makes on its own. So as men age, they can develop something called primary hypogonadism, where they cannot produce their own testosterone. And in that case, absolutely replace testosterone. The evidence is clear. 2018, the Journal of American Urology updated all of their clinical guidelines on male hormone therapy. Having low testosterone is a risk factor for cardiovascular disease. Replacing testosterone does not increase your risk of cardiovascular disease. In fact, it reduces it. There are 10,000 receptors for testosterone in the male heart, one of the highest. It's the highest of any organ in the body. So you don't want to deprive it of testosterone if you're a man. There is not an increased risk of, of prostate cancer, there's not an increased risk of prostate enlargement, and there is not a correlated risk or a causal risk for cardiovascular disease. So you replace it. If you can't produce it, you stimulate.

Megyn Kelly

Got it?

Gary Brecka

If you can produce it. So I want to go back to women for a second and close that loop. A Dutch test will give your ob gyn, hopefully a functional ob gyn, everything that he or she needs to say, okay, here are the hormones that are deficient. I am going to bring those back into the normal level. Here are the hormones I'm going to leave alone or I'm going to replace. And then you replace that entire complement of hormones. And it is a game changer for women because no woman only suffers from the classic signs of menopause. Classic signs are the hot flashes. Classic sign is low libido. Classic sign is sleep disruption. They usually have this myriad of other symptoms that they don't attribute back to, you know, the poor focus or concentration, lack of waking energy, you know, brain fog. These are things. Crushing fatigue for no reason. Waking, exhausted, and then having what they call crushing fatigue during the day, where they just feel like they really have to take a nap. Your listeners do not have to suffer. Get that Dutch test, get it to a functional medicine doctor and get those hormones replaced. You're not increasing risk of breath.

Megyn Kelly

So now, not to beat a dead horse, but if you don't sleep well, notwithstanding, because I am doing the HRT and I love it, there are some out there who are saying like, 20 milligrams, I don't know if that's a unit of creatine and you're going to feel a lot better. And I've never taken creatine. I don't know whether that's something we should be considering, but is there any, like, bounce back tool?

Gary Brecka

Yes. So there are a bunch of things that can mitigate the Effects of poor sleep. So first of all, why sleep important? There's two phases of sleep. They're extraordinarily important. One is called REM phase. This is where we are assembling memory, right? Learned memory. So maybe you learned something on this podcast today. And when you go to sleep tonight, your subconscious, your hippocampus and your prefrontal cortex, these two will connect and this will become a learned memory. You'll remember what maybe that you learned during this podcast or a lecture or an interview or another guest that you had on. So that is called learned memory. That's assembled during REM phases of sleep. During the deep phase of sleep, something called the glymphatic system is active. So we have lymph nodes in the body, right? The lymph nodes that swell when you get a sore throat. We have a glymph fatic system in the brain which drains waste from the brain. And by waste, I mean inflammatory proteins, cytokines, histamines, these inflammatory proteins that if they are not drained from the brain, will stay in the brain. And these are the genesis of a lot of things. Alzheimer's, dementia, early onset cognitive decline, which, by the way, are not conditions of you losing your memory. It is a fallacy that people that have Alzheimer's are losing their memory. They are losing.

Megyn Kelly

You can't access your memory.

Gary Brecka

Your memory is. I am sitting right now, physically sitting in a memory care facility. It is called Regentra. I have, I'm checking my, my mother and my father in today into assisted care. It's actually independent and assisted care living because there is a project here called Regentra where they're using red light therapy, hydrogen gas vibration shake plates, to dramatically improve cognitive outcomes in the elderly. And what we are seeing coming out of these studies is absolutely mind numbing, controlling their glycemic profile, their blood sugar, and reducing these inflammatory compounds. So let's get back to sleep, because that's what you asked about. So creatine is one of those things in high doses that crosses the blood brain barrier. And what it does is creatine can actually mitigate the effects of sleep deprivation. So my wife, going through menopause, was having a very difficult time sleeping. I mean, if she slept more than two or three hours at a stretch without a long period of waking, that was a good night for her. So she was taking 20 milligrams of creatine daily. Because in high doses, it does cross the blood brain barrier. And there is evidence that it can mitigate the effects of, of sleep deprivation. So if you are a female over 42 to 44 years old, I would insist that you are on a minimum of 5 milligrams of creatine a day, full stop.

Megyn Kelly

Is it something you have to build up, you know, like 5 milligrams for a week, 10 milligrams for two weeks and then graduate to 20?

Gary Brecka

No, the loading dose was sort of a bodybuilder holdover where you did a loading dose of creatine for a week and then you actually went down to 5 milligrams. That's, that's, that's. Those studies are related to muscle hypertrophy. Growing lean muscle, tearing a muscle, having the muscle grow back larger. When we're talking about the cognitive benefits in the inflammatory benefits, anti inflammatory benefits, 20 milligrams of creatine split into two 10 milligram doses is very safe.

Megyn Kelly

And okay, you just put it in like a glass of water.

Gary Brecka

Put it in a glass of water. Now here's, here's the difference between the two creatines. Monohydrate. There's more clinical evidence on, on monohydrate. I am actually a fan of both monohydrate and creatine hydrochloride. Hcl women sometimes will find that they bloat less on HCL hydrochloride because it is 40% more water soluble. One of the things that creatine does, which is why bodybuilders love it, is it holds water in the muscle, but it also holds water in the gut. And so dissolve your creatine completely or use a, a form that has other carriers, like a symbiotic, a gel pack creatine. Very, very good form monohydrate. Start with 5mg and then work your way up. Don't do a loading dose at first 5mg week one and week two, you can switch all the way to 20mg a day. You will notice the difference in cognitive function in 24 hours. Some people even say the same day because sleep deprivation doesn't. It leaves these inflammatory proteins in the brain. So you want something to cross the blood brain barrier and help get them out.

Megyn Kelly

The other thing, you could do that every day regularly, or just save that for when you've had a bad night's sleep.

Gary Brecka

So if you don't have consistently poor sleep, if poor sleep is something that is not common to you, so it only happens when you travel, only happens when you're stressed, only happens when you change time zones, then you can save those large doses of creatine for that period of time. If you're going through menopause or you are a chronically poor sleeper, I would, I would recommend that you take the 20 minutes of 20 milligrams of creatine daily. It is a game changer for cognitive function in this memory care facility. I'm in Coconut Creek, Florida. These 80, 85, 90 year old patients are on high doses of creatine, 20 milligrams of creatine a day. My mother is on 20 milligrams of creatine a day. And it is having very, very positive outcomes on learned memory, short term recall, focus, concentration.

Megyn Kelly

You said there's, what was that thing you mentioned? Red light therapy. I know that sounded familiar. Then there were two other things in the second of it of them was something about a shake, a shake, bed shake.

Gary Brecka

What? It's low vibration therapy. So what happens in, in the elderly and deconditioned people is, you know, they can't get into zone two cardio and they can't exercise. We all know the benefits of exercise, right? Maybe we can go down that road. But if you don't, you know, exercise is probably the single best hallmark activity to ward off aging. All cause mortality, mortality, cardiovascular disease. You see this in blue zone studies, you see this in meta analyses.

Megyn Kelly

You see this in all the big Alzheimer's.

Gary Brecka

Alzheimer's, which is now also being called type 3 diabetes. If you Google type 3 diabetes you'll see that type 3 diabetes is Alzheimer's. We used to think that Alzheimer's was the presence of neurofibrillary tangles and amyloid plaques. That is the byproduct of Alzheimer's. The genesis of Alzheimer's is insulin resistance. So if you only had one biomarker that you were tracking and you said I'm only going to choose one biomarker that I'm going to manage for the rest of my life. And if you managed your, your insulin level and what's called your hemoglobin A1C, the three month average of your blood sugar, that would probably do more to ward off all cause mortality than anything else that you do, which is why exercise is so beneficial. But they're doing a few things here. One, they're using low impact vibration. So these, these vibration plates put several GS of force through the body in very short bursts, vertical bursts. The reason why that's important is it helps the bones to strengthen and remineralize. You know, for decades we always thought that brittle bones was low calcium, but that is Patently false. Our bones are not even calcium. Our bones are calcium bound to something called phosphorus, and they form something called hydroxyapatite. So our bones are hydroxyapatite, not calcium. In order for calcium and phosphorus to bind, you need 12 minerals. If you're missing any one of those 12 minerals, your bones do not ossify and you get osteopenia or osteoporosis. You can go to assisted care living facilities all over the world and see elderly men and women that have osteopenia or osteoporosis that have been on calcium supplements for 25 years. I promise you this. Calcium is not the answer. Minerals are the answer. Taking a mineral salt would do more for bone density than taking calcium. You know, usually these people are not calcium deficient. Most of us are not calcium deficient. By the way, if you take too much calcium, it ends up in the arterial wall. This is where we get calcification and hardening of the arteries. So mineral salt is something that should also be in your daily routine. I take a mineral salt called Baja Gold. There are lots of great mineral salts out there. Redmond salt.

Megyn Kelly

How much of that do you put in? I actually saw you mention that, and I ordered it. How much of that do you put, like, in the morning? My doctor actually told me a while ago, start your day with a glass of water and put a little salt in there.

Gary Brecka

Yes.

Megyn Kelly

He doesn't. He didn't recommend it for my husband, who's got some high blood pressure, but for me, he did. But is it just a pinch?

Gary Brecka

You know, there's. So Baja Gold has a liquid mineral dropper. This is probably the cheapest biohack in the world, and it's my favorite biohack. You can buy a bag of this Salt for about 15 bucks. It'll last you five years. I buy the liquid mineral salt. It comes in a dropper, and I put two squirts of it in a glass of water in the morning with all eight essential amino acids and a hydrogen tablet. I put those three things in water, and I whack that back first thing in the morning, and I never, ever, ever, ever miss that. All nine essential.

Megyn Kelly

And that gives you the hydrogen and that. That gives you the minerals you need.

Gary Brecka

Probably have those with me. I. I literally never leave home without these things. So hydrogen gas. This is. This is the one that I use. I want to use one called H2 tap.

Megyn Kelly

I love a prop.

Gary Brecka

I'm sorry, I take that up.

Megyn Kelly

But no, I love it. But the visual aid. Everybody loves the visual Aid.

Gary Brecka

This is, this is. I, I will tell you that the role of hydrogen gas in the human body, mark my words on this is the greatest discovery of our millennia. Hydrogen water, hydrogen inhalation, and even bathing in hydrogen gas will be as common as a multivitamin in 10 years. The evidence is absolutely crystal clear. And I am talking about human trials of peer reviewed, placebo controlled, randomized clinical trials conducted at gold standard universities that are in the public domain, that have been published. Hydrogen is the smallest, lightest element in the universe. It's highest on the periodic table. It's also the most prevalent element in the universe. 10% of your body weight is hydrogen, so it's harmless to human beings. The role that hydrogen gas has in the human body we have only recently discovered. So hydrogen acts as what's called a selective antioxidant. So in other words, it doesn't just reduce oxidative stress, it reduces oxidative stress to neutrality. It restores something called redox homeostasis. And why is that important? Because too much inflammation, too much oxidation, too many free radicals, very bad. Too little inflammation, too few free radicals, too little oxidation, also very bad. You want to be a balance, that which is called redox homeostasis. You want there to be a balance between what's called inflammation and reduction. But when you take hydrogen gas, it restores this to neutrality, to balance, and stops even if you take too much. There is not a professional athlete that I work with, there's not a VIP client whose health trajectory I manage who is not regularly bathing in hydrogen gas and does not take hydrogen water tablets every single day. And you can just take elemental magnesium, which is what a hydrogen tablet is, drop it into water and it will effervesce into pure hydrogen gas and you can drink it. So what happens when that goes into the body is it neutralizes these free radicals. So when we say something is an antioxidant, for example, like what does that mean? Blueberries are antioxidants. Vitamin C is an antioxidant. Quercetin is an antioxidant. What does that mean? It means that it donates electrons. So something is causing free radical damage and oxidative stress. You neutralize it by giving it electrons. So hydrogen, because it can pass through your skin, through your bones, through your cell wall, right through your joints, through the capsule of your joint, it can go your spine. It is the smallest, lightest element in the universe. It's the fraction of the size of a virus. And so it goes everywhere in the human body and reduces this Inflammatory cascade. I don't even talk about this in the public domain because people would call me a complete charlatan. But I have a hydrogen bath at my house and I have put people into that tub. Megan nearly crippled with arthritis, and they will skip out of my unit like they won the lottery. My wife Sage has an L5S1 fusion, spinal fusion in her back. And if you know anything about spinal surgeries, they. They never really go well. It's like. No, you just buy yourself a problem down the street. Anybody that's had back surgery knows in another life.

Megyn Kelly

I was married to a pain management. An interventional pain management doctor.

Gary Brecka

Were you?

Megyn Kelly

And he used to say, I can help anybody except somebody who's actually had back surgery.

Gary Brecka

Yeah. And usually starts with a disectomy. Starts with a fusion, and then it goes to another level and another fusion and another disectomy and then. And then rods. But. So. So my wife sage has an L5S1 fusion. So she had her sacrum fused through her first lumbar vertebrae because of a really bad car accident she was in. And ever since then, you know, when. When that, that, that surgery acts up, it just goes right up her spine and it just cramps her whole spine down. If I bake her in hydrogen gas for 25 minutes, she'll sleep eight hours through the night. Like, it.

Megyn Kelly

What?

Gary Brecka

It's an. It is a selective antioxidant. I will send you the research, the published research on this and you can put it in the show notes. Your. Your readers can or your listeners can check it out for themselves. There's also a website called hydrogen studies.com where you can see all 1500 peer reviewed studies. You can select out the animal studies. Just look at human studies. It will be as common as a multivitamin, especially in professional sports, because professional sports.

Megyn Kelly

Can I ask you a quick question on this? Is this because I had Dr. Casey Means on the program?

Gary Brecka

Her brother Kelly and I are.

Megyn Kelly

She's amazing. I love him too. I know. Because you're very active in the MAHA space. He's. They're both brilliant. We're so lucky to have them. But she was the first person who just insisted that I get the RO filter in my house, which I did. The carbon filter and the ro.

Gary Brecka

Yes.

Megyn Kelly

But a friend of mine was saying that they had. They've gone next level and they've put one of these. Like, is this possible to have a.

Gary Brecka

Yes.

Megyn Kelly

Is it a hydrogen filter in their. Like, do I need something other than the RO now? Like, what is this. How would this work in terms of consuming water?

Gary Brecka

I will tell you that the. The single best under the counter water filtration system in the world is called a mall water filter maw. I think it's mall wellness that tells it. I have it under every sink in my house. I have it under every sink in every property that I have. So what this does is uses sediment and reverse osmosis. These, these different carbon filters and different filters to completely destructure the water. So you have, you take out fluoride, chlorine microplastics, pharmaceuticals, what's called pfas, polyfluoro alkyls. I live in Miami. We have some worst municipal water. They'll tell you that it's clean, but I've had it tested. Arsenic, palladium, cadmium, nickel, trace amounts of lead, not. Not significant amounts of lead. But chlorine, fluoride microplastics. I would argue that one of the best things that you can do as a passive wellness hack, meaning not something you have to be active in doing, like getting in a sauna or getting in a red light bed, is to put water filtration in your home. So this, this mall wellness filter Maw Wellness, what it will do is it will destructure the water and then before it comes out of the sink, it will make the water alkaline. It will add electrolytes back to the water and it will remineralize the water so it destructures it.

Megyn Kelly

Wow.

Gary Brecka

And then restructures it coming out of the. So I still put my hydrogen tablet in there, but I would argue that that is the single best water you can put in the human body because it's so helpful.

Megyn Kelly

I'm gonna go on a shopping spree after this. Although is I imagine that the. The ma water filter is pricey probably, and for people who don't have money to spare, can you just try to put that on one filter and go from there? I mean, like, you know, that sounds like a lot called a cold life

Gary Brecka

that you can actually screw on just to your sink. And that will do Fluoride chlorine microplastics, which is a long way to getting really healthy water. If you want the gold standard an under the counter water filtration. You know, these things are. It's an investment you make once and it is pricey and you probably could finance it. But if you added up all of the bottled water that you drank, you know, I just travel with an aluminum bottle that I filled up from that filter this morning. So you actually can save on glass, bottled water and, and plastic bottled water by actually having water filtration your home and then you're cooking with it, you're drinking it, your kids are drinking it, your spouse is drinking it. You know, it's, it probably, I think as a single intervention, one of the, one of the best things that you can do.

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Wow.

Megyn Kelly

And all the things that you're saving yourself, as you said, you're not now, you're not drinking chlorine, you're not drinking all the arsenic and your children aren't either. So it is an investment. All right, standby because we have much more. Gary stays with us. We take a quick break. The one and only Gary Breck. I've learned so much this hour. I hope you have too more to come. Stand by. Our sponsor, the Electronic Payments Coalition says Washington politicians are always getting in your wallet and that now they're messing with your credit card. They say your credit card and the security it offers are under attack. And that Senators Dick Durbin and Roger Marshall want to change the nation's payment system to benefit corporate megastores like Walmart and Target at the expense of everyday Americans. Credit cards can keep your payments secure and provide rewards that families use to help make everyday purchases more affordable. The Electronic Payments Coalition says the Durbin Marshall mandates would let corporate megastores cut corners on credit card processing, routing transactions over cheaper, untested networks with weaker security and fewer protections. Find out more@guardyourcard.com and consider telling Congress to guard your card.

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Megyn Kelly

Well, my entire staff and I have been shopping during the commercial break trying to get tabs, hydrogen tabs and tallow based sunscreen and all sorts of these fun recommendations. And I feel healthier already thanks to Gary Breca. He's our guest today. He's founder of the ultimate human media platform. And let me tell you something, I know you, you're very familiar with this story, Gary, but there it is, ultimate human. It wasn't that long ago, I don't know, maybe nine, 10 months, maybe a year. Where I was. I was watching something that you had done, and you were telling the Dana White story, CEO of ufc. And it led me down a rabbit hole into Dana White videos talking about his health. And I'm going to let you set the stage in a second for his turnaround, but I just want to show the audience this. So this. I get to this video where he's laying out part of what Gary's protocol for him has been and how it's been absolutely life changing. This is a guy who is on blood pressure medic. They were going to be doing these, like, aggressive interventions, like surgical interventions on his heart. He thought he had a limited time on this earth left when it came to his blood pressure and his heart issues. And then Gary came into his life. Long story short, he's off all meds. He's off all of them now, thanks to Gary. And here's some of what he put on the Internet that he does, which I find fascinating. So first, there's Dana here. There's video of him getting into this red light bed. So he doesn't just do red light for the face. He does red light. He's in the bed, he's got his shorts on. That's all he wears. And he goes into this red light bed that he pulls down over him. I think it's 20 minutes a pop. He says he does this at least a few times a week. And this is one of the ways in which he starts his day. Then he also says he does this, he runs on a treadmill while breathing oxygen. Now, I have done this at this spa not far from me. We call it med spa or gym spa, Spa, gym. And this is like a big thing where they have you at this gym spa. We ride a bike and we put these oxygen masks over our faces. And then you put the little, like a handle on. On the mountain, where your oxygen goes way down and off the mountain, where you get all sorts of good oxygen flowing in through this mask. So it's the same sort of approach. I don't understand it any better when I do it there than when I watch Dana doing it here. We'll get to that with Gary. And third, Dana shows us that he goes on something called a PEMF pad that here in his video, he just lies on it on, like a massage table. You can see him pressing a button. But he says that he sleeps on this every night. And that seems like another very low impact way of improving your health if you just have to sleep on a pad. I mean, this is right up our alley, is it not? People were like, we can get just a little bit better without all of that. Looks highly pleasant, to be quite frank. So walk us through the Dana White story and those protocols there, Gary.

Gary Brecka

So I'm going to tell you the expensive way to do it and then the free way to do it because great. You know, the best biohacking modalities, what they do is they take the best of what mother nature has to offer us and they just make it convenient. Very often I say I'm a much bigger believer in what God gave us than what man makes us. I'm a bigger believer in our God given immune system than I am in chemicals and synthetics and pharmaceuticals. And the same thing is true with a lot of biohacking modalities. So I'm a huge believer in red light. I'm a huge believer in pemf, pulse electromagnetic field. And I'm also a big believer in what Dana was doing, which is called EWAT, which is based on Dr. Otto Warburg's research who won two Nobel prizes in modern medicine called multi step oxygen therapy. So if you can afford those pieces of equipment or you have access to them in a spa or a gym, by all means, regular red light therapy, regular sauna, regular pemf, even cold immersion, and something called intermittent hypoxia. Those are phenomenal things for your body. They not only shift your cellular biology, they improve your VO2 max, very often at rest. And they have proven life extension capabilities. And I'm going to explain that in a second. Proven, clinically proven life extension capabilities. In fact, I'm in the process now of, of opening 600 ultimate longevity centers all over the country. Because I really feel like my message is for masses, not just for the top, top 2% of society that can afford that type of equipment. A red light bed like that, a really good red light bed will cost you a hundred thousand dollars. So if you're getting ready to buy a Ferrari, buy a hyperbaric or red light bed. You don't have the money for a Ferrari or a red light bed. You know, you find your way to one of these centers and, and there'll be 600 of these around the country in the next, in the next few months.

Megyn Kelly

That's great, that's great news.

Gary Brecka

Yeah, it's, it's a, I'm really excited about. It's a project that Tony Robbins life force is involved, you know, for the corporate practice of medicine, hormone therapy, nutrient deficiencies, peptides, but most importantly, you know, low cost memberships. Where people can actually go in and use sauna, red light hyperbaric chambers, pemf, like you're seeing there with Dana, and something called intermittent hypoxia. And I want to explain those in, in a moment. But if you cannot afford a red light bed, a PMF and an EWA machine, get sunlight on your skin, learn to do breath work and touch the surface of the earth, you will get the same, very close to the same outcomes. Because certain wavelengths of red light, we are very photovoltaic beings. So red light therapy, the primary role of red light therapy is it passes through the skin. Remember that light doesn't care about inflammation, it doesn't care about the cell wall, all doesn't care about the tissue. It passes right through your skin. And when it passes through the skin, one of the things that it does is, without getting too scientific, is it goes into a little organelle in the cell called the mitochondria. And the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell. It's a little battery that's inside of your cell. And we have about 110 trillion of these in our bodies. 10% of your body weight is mitochondria. So you've got 110 trillion of these in your cells. They're very important and they're making energy. They're making this form of energy called ATP. What's fascinating about the mitochondria is that there's a motor inside of the mitochondria, and every time it makes one revolution, it has two choices. It can either create two units of energy, two ATP, or it can create 36 units of energy, 36 ATP. One turn, and it's either 16 times more powerful or 16 times less powerful. So what determines whether or not it's 16 times more efficient or more powerful or 16 times less? The presence of oxygen. If oxygen enters that cycle, aerobic respiration, you get 36 ATP. If carbon dioxide, anaerobic respiration enters that cycle, you get 2 ATP. One of the things that red light does is when it passes through the wall of this mitochondria, it kicks out a gas, a gas called mitochondrial nitric oxide, and forces oxygen to dock. So it's almost like taking a hammer and driving oxygen into the battery, the powerhouse of the cell. So red light therapy heals you and gives you energy from the inside out. Certain wavelengths of sunlight do the same thing. So, yes, red light therapy is excellent.

Megyn Kelly

How many times a week would you be doing that?

Gary Brecka

Well, red light therapy is dose dependent, just like sauna. So if you look at the research on sauna, dry sauna, for example, and the data is clear on dry sauna. I don't think anyone in the functional medicine or biohacking space would argue the impact of sauna and it reduced.

Megyn Kelly

Just to clarify, dry sauna is like what you know of as sauna. Wet sauna is steam room.

Gary Brecka

I mean dry sauna and infrared sauna. So they're both dry.

Megyn Kelly

Oh, okay.

Gary Brecka

One uses light to create friction and heat you up. The other uses heat to heat you up. A dry sauna is usually about 160 to 180 degrees. An infrared sauna is usually about 100, 155 degrees. But it also makes you sweat. It makes you sweat by using wavelengths of light to create friction in water chromophores. So it actually also makes you sweat. Either of those is fine. An infrared sauna or dry sauna. I'm not a fan of commercial steam rooms unless they filter their water, because commercial steam rooms usually bring in the municipal water. And then you are vaporizing fluoride gas, chlorine gas, polyfluoroalkyls, whatever is in that water, you're turning into a gas.

Megyn Kelly

Good point.

Gary Brecka

And the way that we take a poison and turn it into a bioweapon is we vaporize it. Right. I mean, you, you and I could be sitting on, in front of a desk with a pile of anthrax on our desk, no problem. If you lit that on fire or vaporized it, big problem. Right. So there's a dark thought. There's a dark. Yeah, I got really dark there for a second. Megan. Sorry. Wow.

Megyn Kelly

There I was in the steam room enjoying myself until I got poisoned by anthrax.

Gary Brecka

Yeah, it was all fun and games until Gary vaporized the anthrax, you know, but, and I'm not saying municipal steam rooms are that bad, but when you walk into a lot of these. Yeah. Locker rooms, you smell the chlorine, right?

Megyn Kelly

Yeah, that's right.

Gary Brecka

You can just smell it. And it's, it's chlorine gas and fluoride gas. So unless you're filtering the water in your steam room, I would avoid that. I would, I wouldn't use municipal water, but if you filter it. Great. But so we know that sauna reduces all cause mortality, meaning we know that the reduction in cardiovascular risk and the reduction in all cause mortality clearly causal, not correlated. It, it is, it is a clear line in, in the scientific literature. So sauna is one of those things that if you're on a longevity bandwagon it should be a, you know, somewhere in your. In your stack. But it is also dose dependent. So five days is better than two. Two days is better than one. Red light therapy is the same way. The more consistently you lay in a red light therapy therapy bed, the more youthful an appearance you'll take on. You will notice extraordinary youthful changes in your skin. Why? Because it's very good for collagen, for elastin, for fibrin, and for something called vasomotor circulation. Vasomotor is something you may even want to write down because most people think that our heart circulates all the blood in our body. They're cardiologists that think that, but that the heart circulates all the blood running through our body. That is. That is not true. The heart circulates about 30% of the blood in our body. Nobody has a left ventricle with a single contraction that is strong enough to push blood 63,000 miles. You have about 63,000 miles of blood vessel in your body, including venules and capillaries and arterioles. So this 70% of our circulation, how does that 70% of the blood circulate? It's circulated through this activity called vasomotor. So I want you to think of a snake swallowing a mouse, okay? We don't put a hose in the snake's mouth and push the mouse along. What happens is there's a muscular, like peristalsis, a muscular motion that moves that mouse down the snake's body. That's how the bolus of blood is moved through 70% of your circulation. So vasomotor, this microvascular circulation, we never examine it. We don't image it, we don't treat it, we don't even talk about it. And so what happens as we age is we get compromise in this vasomotor circulation. Red light therapy is one of the best things you can do for vasomotor circulation. And if you go back to Dana White, Dana White had what's called brittle hypertension when I met him. And brittle hypertension means that you have had extraordinarily high blood pressure all the time, and it's not controlled well by medication. He had been on beta blockers, calcium channel blockers, diuretics, something called ACE inhibitors. None of it was working to keep his blood pressure down. What was fascinating was that Dana was told he had familial hypertension. He was told he had genetically inherited hypertension. And I want to make something super clear for your listeners in Modern Medicine, there is a type of diagnosis called idiopathic. So when a physician has no idea, in fact, the Latin root of that is unknown origin. So when you have a condition and we don't know why, we just diagnose it as idiopathic. You have idiopathic hypertension. You have idiopathic hypothyroid. You have idiopathic autoimmune, which means we have no idea what caused this. 85% of all primary hypertension diagnosis are idiopathic. So when they are medicating your heart for a crime they cannot prove it's committing, it's because they do not know the origin, and that's in the record. Idiopathic. And so when we can't explain things in medicine, we look for other routes to validate it. And one of the routes they do is they look at your family history and they go, oh, my gosh, Megan, look at this. You have high blood pressure. We've examined your heart. There's nothing wrong with your heart, which is what happened to Dana. Your EKG is normal. EEG is normal. Heart sounds are normal. Lung sounds are normal. Cardiac cast, normal. Dye contrast, study. All of these advanced studies are all normal. So we can't find anything wrong with the heart. We want to medicate the heart anyway, so we look at your family history, and we go, oh, look at that. Your father's brother has hypertension. Your mother had hypertension. You have familial hypertension. You have genetically inherited hypertension. Well, if I can get you to believe that you have a genetically inherited disease, I can get you to subscribe to a lifetime of medication. But if we took that conversation one step further, and you looked a physician in the eye and said, if I inherited this disease from my ancestor, what gene did they pass on to me that caused this condition to exist? That's when their face would go blank, because that gene does not exist. There's not a gene for hypertension. There's not a gene for hypothyroid. There's not a gene for type 2 diabetes, drug and alcohol addiction, depression and anxiety. All of these things run in families. None of them are genetic. So, wow, that is a critical distinction. So they diagnosed Dana with idiopathic hypertension. Hypertension of an unknown origin. The reason? Familial genetic hypertension, even though there's no gene for hypertension. So the first conversation I had with Dana was, well, they don't know the origin. They're. They're medicating your heart for a crime they cannot prove. It's committing. In fact, your. Your cardiac work says the opposite. You have no cardiac anomalies. Your eeg, ekg, heart and lung sounds, and all of your cardio workup has been normal for 10 years. Dana's response. I won't say his exact response on the show because it's very colorful, but he said, what in the beep am I on all of these medications for? And so what I found was that he had an amino acid in his blood. Please, if you have hypertension, write this down. He had an amino acid in his blood called homocysteine. Homocysteine is in everyone's blood that's listening to this conversation right now. Homocysteine is normal in our bloodstream. Our body takes homocysteine, breaks it down, and turns it into another amino acid called methionine, which then quiets the mind. So when homocysteine rises, which is genetic, you inherit poor homocysteine metabolism, which means you inherit high homocysteine. You do not inherit hypertension. And so when this amino acid rises and it's cruising by the inside lining of your blood vessels, it irritates your blood vessels. And if you irritate a blood vessel, it will clamp down. And when you make the pipes smaller in a fix. Excuse me, a fixed system, the pressure goes up. An apprentice plumber knows. If I want to increase the pressure, I decrease the diameter of the pipes. So you have 63,000 miles of blood vessel in your body, 70% of which we never image and never. And never examine. And if you get. Get vascular constriction, vasoconstriction in that 70% of your system, the pressure is going to go up. Just like if I wanted to raise your blood pressure right now, I just put some Normatec compression boots on your. On your legs, your blood pressure will skyrocket. Nothing wrong with your heart. If I take the boots off, pressure goes back to normal. So what happened to Dana over 21 weeks? And I would. I would encourage your audience to write this down, too. If they have hypertension, check your homocysteine level. If you have high homocysteine, that means that you have vascular constriction. If you have vascular constriction, you likely have high blood pressure. And this is well documented in. In the literature. You take an amino acid called tmg. You can get this over the counter. Try methyl glycine. What TMG will do is help your body metabolize the homocysteine. So over 21 weeks, as Dana took this amino acid and he began to metabolize homocysteine. As his homocysteine level dropped, his vascular system began to relax. And as it relaxed, his pressure returned to normal. So after 21 weeks, he was off all of his cardiovascular medication. He is no longer brittly hypertensive. He does not take medication for his heart, and he takes an amino acid called trimethylglycine tmg. Perfectly normal.

Megyn Kelly

Absolutely incredible. The. Just to circle back before we move on, we talked about red light bed, we talked about the treadmill with O2.

Gary Brecka

Yes. Let's talk about the free version of that, because I said I would tell you what to do for free.

Megyn Kelly

Okay.

Gary Brecka

If you can afford anyone, get on a treadmill and breathe the auction. If you can't, learn to do breath work, that breath work that I described at the beginning. Three rounds of 30 deep breaths. Obnoxious, like deep breaths in through your lungs, really expanding your rib cage, exercising the auxiliary muscles of respiration, and then out through a straw. Three rounds of 30 breaths followed by an extended breath hold. And then the final one is touching the surface of the earth. It's called earthing or grounding. And I used to get a lot of flack for this 10 years ago, but it's not.

Megyn Kelly

I know. That's real though, right? That's real.

Gary Brecka

You discharge into the earth. You can hold a voltage meter and put one. Get one off of Amazon. Put one pin of the voltage meter in your hand, plug the other one into the ground, and then stand barefoot on top of your tennis shoes. Okay. Hold the voltage meter, step off of your tennis shoes onto bare ground, and watch the meter peg all the way to the right.

Megyn Kelly

So you have to have your shoes off. That's. That's impress.

Gary Brecka

You want to touch the surface of the earth with bare feet. It's called grounding or our thing. That's why people feel so good when they go to the beach.

Megyn Kelly

And the PEMF does that.

Gary Brecka

Yes.

Megyn Kelly

For you. Mimics with the substitute if you can.

Gary Brecka

Yeah.

Megyn Kelly

I mean, if you live in a very snowy year, by the way, does it work in a snowy area? Like if you, if you were standing

Gary Brecka

on it, does it work on cold ground too? What's fascinating too is a lot of commercial buildings are grounded. So like if, if you actually live in a commercial condominium, you're in New York City and you're like, gary, there's no dirt around. You can also get a grounding test meter on Amazon. They're six bucks and you can hold it and take your shoes off and stand on Your tile floor, you may be grounded because commercial buildings run steel and they also have steel poles. So very often the concrete surfaces in those buildings are grounded. So you may be on the 15th floor, but fully grounded, you can just touch the surface of the earth. Touch your, touch your tile and you'll be grounded.

Megyn Kelly

On the subject of, you know, the, the Dana White revolution, can we talk about ldl? There's such a debate over ldl. And I actually was looking into this recently because, like my doctor, I've told my audience this. He loves the statins. He thinks everybody should be on a statin. He thinks they should be in the drinking water. Literally said that to me. I love my guy, but he's more of an old school, you know, he's not functional medicine, but I'm into functional medicine. So, like, it's interesting for me. But so he loves, loves, loves the statins. But now I know I've had enough people on the show that I know that there's a real question about statins and there's a real question about whether we should be focused on LDL cholesterol at all.

Gary Brecka

Totally agree.

Megyn Kelly

Peter Attia, who's, he's in the longevity space. He does believe.

Gary Brecka

Did he resurface?

Megyn Kelly

Well, I don't know. Maybe he's not, he's not functional, but he's in the longevity. But he, he loves us. He wants LDL down. He also believes LDL should be low. And you do have to worry about, and my doctor was telling me in Europe they want your LDL to be like below 60. I mean, that's really low. And you know, they'll lead you to believe you're going to have a heart attack if you don't manage the ldl. So where do you stand on ldl?

Gary Brecka

So first of all, let's talk about what cholesterol is and what it's not. So cholesterol is not a fuel supply. Your body cannot use cholesterol for energy. So what is it? It's a construction material. We use it to build every cell wall, every cell membrane. We use it to make vitamin D3, the only vitamin that human beings make on our own. Human beings only make one vitamin and it's vitamin D3 called calciferol. We make it from sunlight and cholesterol. You don't need to eat, drink or, or supplement. You just expose your skin to sunlight, have cholesterol in your bloodstream, you'll make vitamin D3. So just think for a moment how critical that must be to human function if, when God made us. He made us with the ability to make one vitamin. So it's a construction material. And so secondly, cholesterol is also a transport molecule. So if cholesterol was a tennis ball, the fuzzy yellow surface on the top, that would be a triglyceride, a fat. So fat triglyceride is transported around the bloodstream on the surface of cholesterol. So if you remember from high school geometry that as the size of a sphere gets smaller, its surface area to volume ratio goes up. Why is that?

Megyn Kelly

Oh, boy.

Gary Brecka

Hold on. I'm going to explain it in the way that your audience is going to get. Bring it home, Gary, for the naysayer nerds. So let's say you had two basketballs of cholesterol sitting on your desk, okay? They're covered in fat and you want to add more fat to your desk. You want to put more fat on those basketballs. How do they hold more fat? Two basketballs become four softballs. You add more fat to the bloodstream. Four softballs become eight baseballs. You add more fat. Eight baseballs become 16 golf balls. You add more fat. Sixteen golf balls become 32 little BBs. Now, those two basketballs are markers for longevity, large, puffy cholesterol. The 32 BBs are markers for cardiovascular disease. Same level of cholesterol, different size. Does that make sense?

Megyn Kelly

Yeah.

Gary Brecka

The two basketballs have the same surface area as 32 little BBs. Those 32 little BBs are very dangerous because they will pass through the endothelium, they the arterial wall. They'll get eaten by a macrophage. They'll start foam cell. They'll start the production of what's called foam cells, which is the genesis of plaquing, scarring, narrowing cardiovascular disease. Cholesterol by itself doesn't magically just jump out of the bloodstream and stick to the arterial wall. You need oxidation and you need that molecular size of the cholesterol to be very small. So I'm going to say something that's going to sound controversial, but, but if anyone has evidence to prove this statement wrong, I'm happy to look at it. No one has ever been able to do this for me so far, but there is zero, and I mean zero, evidence anywhere in the peer reviewed, published clinical literature linking elevated levels of LDL cholesterol on its own to cardiovascular disease. You have to have a corresponding increase in triglyceride or you have to have the small particle size. Now, lipo A, lipo A, which is genetic, is a very dangerous form of cholesterol Right now, there are no pharmacological solutions for that. PKS39 inhibitors do not reduce lipo A. There may be solutions by the end of this year, but as we stand right now, there are not pharmacological solutions for lipo lipo B. So what happens is we've selected one myopic view of cholesterol, ldl, and we've said LDL high cardiovascular risk, high. We need to get it low. That is not true and I will tell you that in the evidence because when I was in the mortality space, we had access to the day, date, time, location and cause of death for 371 million lives. I can tell you in 22 years, I never processed a single death claim on a centenarian, somebody who lived over age 100 that did not have clinically elevated levels of LDL cholesterol at the time of their death. And if you look at blue zone studies, elevated LDL cholesterol, low triglyceride. If you look at the centenarian death claims that I processed, high LDL cholesterol, low triglyceride. If you want to focus on a single variable that makes your cholesterol less lethal, control your insulin. Insulin resistance is a greater marker for cardiovascular disease, insulin and hemoglobin A1c than LDL cholesterol. I would not. I am not a physician. So let me be the first one to say that I'm not a physician and I am not licensed to practice medicine, but I am a data scientist and I have read the data. If it were me or my loved one, I would not take a statin if, if purely my LDL cholesterol number was elevated, especially if I had normal to low triglyceride.

Megyn Kelly

So can I ask you a question then? If you're a diabetic whose insulin is controlled. Right. If you're a medicated diabetic who's controlling her insulin all the time, shouldn't you then never die of a heart attack? Like, because.

Gary Brecka

Well, it's interesting.

Megyn Kelly

Your insulin's always under control.

Gary Brecka

If you look at the category of diabetes. So diabetes, if there's a measure called hemoglobin A1C, okay. This is the three month average of your blood sugar. It goes from 4.8 to 5.6 on most standard lab values. In that range, you're considered to have normal blood sugar between 5.6 and 6.0. You are considered pre diabetic between 6.0 and and 6.4. You are diabetic but not insulin dependent. So. So insulin Dependence. You can have diabetes and not be insulin dependent. You can have diabetes and require insulin. So if you look at the incidence of cardiovascular disease in type 2 diabetics, meaning they are diagnosed with diabetes, then you find significantly higher rates of cardiovascular disease. In fact, insulin is a more correlated risk to cardiovascular disease than LDL cholesterol. It is a greater predictor of cardiovascular risk and disease than LDL cholesterol. On its own, insulin resistance is what causes cholesterol to. To oxidize. So if you're going to monitor. If you just had an LDL cholesterol number and you had your insulin and hemoglobin A1C, I would control my blood sugar before I took a statin, because the uncontrolled blood.

Megyn Kelly

The thing about blood sugar is it's not just sugar. I mean, obviously, if you're having boatloads of candy and ice cream and sugary products, that's not good. But you could eliminate all that and still have high blood sugar. Right. Like, that's right. For example, if you, if you have hunks of bread, your body recognizes that as sugar, it processes that as a sugar. There are ways of spiking that blood sugar that have nothing to do with the consumption of actual sugar.

Gary Brecka

That's right. Yeah. And, and, and the big offenders are white bread, flour, rice, pasta, grains. Those are the ones that, they don't taste sweet. So we don't think of them as spiking blood sugar, but that, you know, they spike blood sugar, fruits, and berry. Great. Be very protein forward with your diet. Saturated fats and proteins are fine as long as you do not also have high glycemic carbohydrates with them. We just updated the entire. Not just the food pyramid, but the nutritional guidelines to be very protein forward. We also ended the war on saturated fat when, when we launched the war on saturated fat, we began the explosion of high sugary drinks, sodas, snacks, and highly processed foods. And look at the rates of diabetes when we went after fat and replaced it with sugar.

Megyn Kelly

Because everything got worse.

Gary Brecka

Yeah.

Megyn Kelly

And I know, Gary, you say just to get this thing, we have to take a break, but you say the number one, the only diet rule that matters is to avoid processed foods. I mean, processed foods are the devil. Like, you can't eat them. You do not buy them, do not have them in your pantry, do not give them to your children. Avoid them like the plague.

Gary Brecka

Yes, this is very true. And just quick because I know, I know we're tight on time, Blue zone studies, meta analyses and big Data all line up. There's no argument for dogmatic dieting to extend life. It's not keto, paleo, pescatarian, vegan, vegetarian, carnivore, you know, raw food, food. The secret to extended life is the absence of processed food. You can do fine on a vegetarian diet. It's difficult, which can very difficult on a vegan diet. But you can do it on a vegetarian diet. Difficult, but you can do it. You can do it eating fish, chicken, meat, eggs. As long as you are not taking in high amounts of highly processed food and you are watching your sugars. Honey is great. You know, fruits and berries are amazing. For you. It's not no sugar. It's eating sugar in moderation. And when you look at all of the areas of the world where we have life extension, there is no presence of processed food.

Gary Brecka's Wife or Associate

Wow.

Megyn Kelly

Think of that. And we are the capital of the world.

Carl's Jr. Spokesperson

Yeah.

Megyn Kelly

When it comes to that stuff. Everywhere.

Gary Brecka

And we're the sickest, fattest, most disease ridden nation in the world.

Megyn Kelly

All right, lots more to get to, including fermented foods. We're going to play you what Cheryl Hines says about RFKJ and his obsession with steak and ferments, as he calls them. And then what about peptides? Is there something we should be taking?

Gary Brecka

Oh, we should definitely.

Megyn Kelly

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Gary Brecka

Let's go.

Megyn Kelly

All right. There's a lot. Okay. This is from you. You do not have an autoimmune disease. You have a pathological infection. So if you think you have an autoimmune disease, you say there are five things that you need to think about. Forget what the disease is. Forget lamentations about having one. There are five things you can look into to improve your health and how you feel. The first one on the list is mold. Very interesting. Do you want to keep going from there?

Gary Brecka

Yep. Mycotoxin, parasite, virus, and heavy metal. I'm gonna. I'm gonna do a little demonstration here that may be the most significant thing that you learn about autoimmune. Now, I am not saying that all autoimmune diseases caused by those five things. What I am telling you that is that as a category of disease, 85% of autoimmune is diagnosed as idiopathic which means that you're led to believe that you woke up one day and for no apparent reason, your immune system turned on your colon. So you have Crohn's. You woke up one day and for no apparent reason, it started to attack the myelin sheath of your nerve. You have multiple sclerosis. It went after your thyroid. You have Hashimoto's, the chagrins, lacrimal gland of the eye. And on and on and on. So if, if this is a piece of gum, but if this was a mold spore or a mycotoxin or a parasite or a virus or a heavy metal, this healthy cell, this does not hide like this. It hides like this. And that's a very important distinction, because the immune system is hyper vigilant. It wants to get to this. Right. And it's hiding.

Megyn Kelly

Just for losing audience, he's putting the bad thing in the middle of his fist. He's saying it like, hides in the middle of your system.

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Megyn Kelly

Keep going.

Gary Brecka

Yeah. So think about if somebody across the street from your house, robbed the bank and ran into your house and barricaded himself in your. In your house. The police would bust down that door to get to the perpetrator. They're not just showing up to your house to kick in the door for no reason. They're kicking in the door because the perpetrator is inside. So the immune.

Megyn Kelly

That's why your autoimmune markers are up. There's something bad happening inside of you that they're after.

Gary Brecka

Exactly. So we can take one of two types of belief if we have no explanation. One, God made a mistake. The immune system just attacked you for no reason. God didn't make a mistake. The immune system is there for a reason. So the police officer just showed up and barricaded through your door and ran around your house, or he kicked in the door to get to a perpetrator. So what happens when the immune system reaches the wall of a cell and it doesn't have permission to go inside? The way it gains permission to go inside, kick down the door is it manufactures an antibody to that tissue issue. So if you look at the incidence of heavy metal toxicity in Hashimoto's, which is autoimmune thyroid, you would find that very often, not always, but very often, these patients have high levels of metals embedded in their thyroid. Why? Because the thyroid has an affinity for heavy metals. So mercury toxicity, palladium, lead, arsenic, very often will gravitate into the thyroid. And then what happens? The immune system is chasing that Perpetrator, and it begins an autoimmune response. If you have Crohn's disease, the immune system didn't just wake up one day and attack your colon for no reason. Usually what has happened is that you have. You have damaged the single cell layer of the inside lining of your intestine. You have something called leaky gut, where contents from the inside of your intestine are leaking it through the wall and into the. The bloodstream, and the immune system arrives there and starts a fight. And then we suppress the immune system, we hold it responsible for a crime it's not committing, and we give you high doses of corticosteroids, anti inflammatories to try to control the inflammation instead of saying, why did the immune system show up in the first place? Why? Police officer at my house, kicking in my door. Oh, there's a bank robber inside. Oh, there's a heavy metal. There's a mold spore, a mycotoxin, a parasite, viruses. Same way. When a virus arrives to a cell, what it does is it sticks to the cell wall and injects its DNA, and then it takes over the function of that cell. A virus is not a living thing. It needs a cell to survive, so it survives by injecting its DNA. It's like being bitten by a zombie. Now you're a zombie, right? So a cell bitten by a virus becomes that virus, for lack of better explanation.

Megyn Kelly

Well, and also, I just want to say, Dr. Dale Bredesen, who is a brilliant doctor who studies Alzheimer's and dementia, he says looking at all those things also helps prevent Alzheimer's because you're reducing your viral load, you're reducing your toxic load, which will help your brain.

Gary Brecka

Amen to that.

Megyn Kelly

In addition to these other things.

Gary Brecka

Look at the.

Megyn Kelly

This can help you in a number of ways.

Gary Brecka

Look at the.

Megyn Kelly

But I want to keep going because there's so many other things.

Carl's Jr. Spokesperson

Okay.

Megyn Kelly

You had a woman on your show recently talking about your feet. No one thinks about their feet as important to longevity. But I listened to the two of you, and I went. I have to say, I bought a pair of the ugliest sneakers I have ever seen. They're gonna make us live longer somehow, Gary.

Gary Brecka

I know, but they're so not fashionable. Megan. But I mean, if. Just look at the general shape of the foot. The foot shaped like a. Yeah, look at the general shape of a shoe. It's shaped like a pyramid. And like a pizza. Yeah, pizza. It's shaped like a slice of pizza. But that's usually Processed food. So let's stay away from the pizza analogy, Megan. Shaped like the capitol building. So you, you, you have this pizza shape to most shoes, but you have a Y shape to our feet. And if you look at what happens, bunions and corns and, and, and things like that, you know, the, the toes start to turn in towards each other. We also, because our shoes, we, some running shoes even have carbon fiber insoles, like flat insoles. So we're losing the original strength of our feet. There's an amazing book called Born to Run. It was about Mexican tribes that run 60, 70 miles on a regular basis every week barefoot. And they have no ankle injuries. They have no foot injuries. They don't have knees and hips, hip and low back injuries. Because the foot is adaptive. The foot has 300 planes of motion that it moves in, has 20, want to say seven bones. So the foot is meant to adapt to different surfaces. It's meant to be malleable. And when we cast it and we put it in narrow toes, high heels are the worst in the most poor anatomical position for women. And so we, we do damage to our feet. You know, I've seen photographs of a lot of NBA players, famous NBA players. These are online. They're the grossest things you've ever seen. Ingrown hairs, I mean ingrown toenails, toes literally overlapping with other toes. You know, this very pizza shape to all of the toes at the distal end of of the foot. So this is a very unnatural position for us. So yes, wider toed, Y shaped shoes, great for you being is excellent for you. Toe strength is right up there with grip strength in terms of how we can determine how balanced we are. So in elderly people that lose toe strength and they lose foot strength, it's very easy for them to fall.

Megyn Kelly

And she was saying that if you keep your toes out and you like lift your big toes, that's good. Like do that to keep your, you know, some toe strength. Separate your toes apart so that they're not together. Try the exercise. That was interesting.

Gary Brecka

Just your big toe. It's way harder than you think.

Megyn Kelly

All right, now what about ferments? Because RFKJ and a bunch of other people in the administration are on some diet where they're eating red meat and ferments only.

Gary Brecka's Wife or Associate

Well, right now he is only eating meat and fermented vegetables. So what that looks like is in the morning at 6:30, he's cooking a steak and eating sauerkraut.

Megyn Kelly

So what happens? Do you guys go out to eat? Is he like Waiting to get back home to eat.

Gary Brecka's Wife or Associate

Now, this is. I don't know if he wants me saying this either, but who cares? He's so dedicated to this diet that he's eating that he will bring his own sauerkraut to a restaurant, which, by the way, Katie, you will appreciate this because we'll be in the car dressed up. I'll have, like, a little. And he's got his. No, I'll have my little clutch, right? One of my good bags that I only take out every once in a while because I want to keep them nice. And he'll hand me a bag of sauerkraut and say, can you put this in your bag? And I'll say, I actually cannot. And, you know, if you would have told me when we were inside, I would have brought a different bag. But what you're about to put in this bag is not okay. I'm gonna give this bag to one of my daughters when she, you know, when I die. This is not a sauerkraut bag. But you. If you tell me ahead of time, I can bring a sauerkraut bag.

Megyn Kelly

You know what I mean?

Gary Brecka's Wife or Associate

It's too long in advance.

Megyn Kelly

I won't bring the Chanel.

Gary Brecka's Wife or Associate

I'll bring the Chanel. Exactly.

Megyn Kelly

What do you make of those?

Gary Brecka

So fermented foods are gonna. First of all, they're excellent for your body. They have great probiotic flora in them. I eat a lot of sauerkraut, a lot of kimchi. Some really interesting research coming out on kimchi and microplastics. Correlated, not causal, meaning they can remove microplastics from the body. This is a correlated result so far. But fermented foods have two things. One, they have soluble and insoluble fiber. Soluble fiber is what turns into free fatty acids and produces something called butyrate, which is an anti cancer molecule, and it also lowers inflammation. Insoluble fiber moves through the gut as bulk. And we know that high fiber diets are correlated to decrease risk of colorectal cancer. And so one of the things that you can do is reintroduce fermented foods, and you get the benefits of soluble and insoluble fiber reduction of inflammation. We would call these foods anti cancer. They're not to treat cancer, but we call them anti cancer. The bulk moves through as bulk, and the soluble fiber turns into free fatty acids and butyrate. Really good for you.

Megyn Kelly

All right, there's a free. There's a free tip for you. Now, peptides, all the latest, you know, big celebs they love the peptides they love like Joe Rogan. BPC157, a synthetic 15amino acid peptide derived from a protein found in human gastric juice, marketed for tendon, ligament, muscle and gut repair. Is that something we should be taking and is there another peptide you like?

Gary Brecka

No question. First of all. So just a quick explanation on peptides. Peptides are not new, novel, recently discovered molecules. Peptides are generally things that are made endogenously in the human body. Insulin is a peptide. GLP1 is a peptide. We have a trillion dollar industry built on the back of a peptide that we make in our own gut.

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Gary Brecka

And we make this peptide GLP1 in response to nutrient density. GHKCU, the famous copper peptide for the skin. We make this in the human body. So peptides very often are endogenous. We make them in the human body. That's the first thing. The second thing is they are signaling molecules. They usually tell the body to do something, produce more growth hormone, produce more testosterone, send platelets to this location and heal this tissue. So it taps into the body's innate systems that already exist. Very often as we age, the body does not lose the ability to produce youthful levels of things like growth hormone, testosterone, other hormones. This signal gets turned down. So in other words, if you walked into a room and you could barely hear the music, you wouldn't go mess with the speakers. You would find the tuner and you would turn the tuner up and the music would play louder. This is how peptides work. They're signaling molecules. They're like the tuner. And so because they're amino acids, they actually have enzymes in the body that recognize them and can break them down and eliminate the weight, eliminate the waste. The reason why you don't desensitize to food, you can eat 1500 calories for the a day, for the rest of your life. Why don't you have to eat 10,000 calories 10 years from now? Because your body is not desensitizing food to food. It's not building a tolerance to food. Why? Because we recognize it. We have enzymes to break it down. We can store it as energy, we can use it to build structures, or we can eliminate it. Peptides fall into this category. What's fascinating about peptides, I think these are big pharma's worst nightmare, is that it can signal the body to accelerate wound healing. BPC157TB500GHKCU you peptides that already exist in our body, amino acid chains that we already have, we can add these back to the body and we can accelerate wound healing. There are peptides that are anti anxiolytic that actually reduce the impact of anxiety. They have impacts on brain derived neurotropic factor bdnf. There are peptides that cause our body to secrete something called telomerase and lengthen our telomeres. So peptides are something that we've been using for the last 10 years in clinical practice. My team of physicians probably written over a quarter of a million prescriptions for peptides without a single adverse event. Serious adverse event. Itching and rashes at the site of injection, minor infection at the site of injection for not being sterile or some of the side effects but those are not related to the peptide, those are related to the injection. There are certain peptides that have contraindications used to always have a physician do these. But the pharmacy compounding advisory committee is meeting on the 23rd of this month and I pray that there is a positive recommendation to the FDA that they turn into guidance on peptides. Taking these off of the category two and putting them on the category one list. I will be in Washington on Monday advocating for this myself.

Megyn Kelly

That's great to hear. Okay, well I'm excited to buy these because as you say, Big pharma's nightmare. They actually seem like they're helping people and it's not necessarily a game of and now you're hooked for life and we're just going to make tons of money off of you. The more I hear, the more interested I am. And I'm not. I, I don't think I'm on any peptides but I'm interested.

Gary Brecka

I don't think I'm on. Anyway, I love that you can go to my website.

Megyn Kelly

I'm gonna have to actually look and

Gary Brecka

I do a whole educational series on peptides.

Megyn Kelly

I loved our conversation. I'm so grateful to you, Gary. Thank you. Thank you for all the great work you're doing. Check out theultimatehuman.com ultimatehuman.com yes.

Gary Brecka

Check out all of these theultimatehuman.com yes

Megyn Kelly

theultimatehuman.com all the best to you and all the best all of you. Tomorrow our first time guest Alex Bruzowitz will be here. Boy, does he have a lot to say. You'll see. Thanks for listening to the Megyn Kelly show. No bs, no agenda and no fear.

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