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Hello, everybody. Welcome. Along to the rest is entertainment World cup of Special. I am joined by Bella Hull. Hello, Bella.

B

Hello.

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Very nice to see you. And Ivo Graham. Hello, Ivo.

C

Hello, Richard. Thanks.

A

Just absolute full disclosure. We are recording this just before the England World cup semi final, which is why Ivo is wearing what he's wearing. That may age very badly.

C

Wear it all year round.

A

Who knows?

C

Stopped clock.

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Who knows? Listen, we all age badly now. Our World cup this week is the World cup of TV theme tunes. Okay, what we've done, we've sent a whole long list of TV theme tunes to our friends at Focal Data. They put all of those to the British public and we have a list of the most popular ones in the world. We will draw various of these themes into four quarter finals. We'll chat about them a bit. At the end, we will discover which TV theme the British public thinks is the best. I warn you, as I always warn you, the public are pretty much always wrong. Okay, so we can talk about our own favourites as well.

B

Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

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Okay. Shall we take a look at our first quarter final?

B

We must.

A

Okay. It is this. The Adams family against. Against Peaky Blinders. Ivo. So two very, very different eras. Two very different songs, but two in their different ways.

C

Quite sort of gothic.

A

Yeah. Quite scary. Right?

C

They're scary songs.

B

Mischievous.

C

Yes. More than just mischievous.

A

They really are. They're both.

C

Peaky Blinders were full of mischief.

B

Yeah, they were mischievous. Is it mischievous or mischievous?

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Mischievous.

B

I think mischievous.

C

I think you know that. But you also know how much more fun it is to say mischievous. You've made the right decision at every point.

A

But they were. They were really naughty.

B

Yeah, they were naughty boys, for God's sake.

A

Yeah, they really were.

B

They were deviants.

A

They really were deviants. To be fair, I'd have called it. I'd have called that show the Naughty Deviants. I'd have called it.

C

I'd like to think that Nick Cave would not have granted permission for his iconic song Red Hand to be used in the show.

B

The Naughty Deviants of Birmingham.

A

So the Peaky Blind is seen tune. As you say, it's Red White Hand by Nick Cave. I think it's the only one of our quarter finalists. That was like a song that existed. It's been covered by about a million different people. It's been covered by two of his exes.

B

What?

A

Yeah. What do you think about how.

B

God, he must have been amazing in bed.

A

Can you imagine?

B

Or.

A

I haven't heard the COVID versions. Perhaps they're terrible.

B

Or terrible. I Mean, I would. I just don't know who I would have to go out with for them to. For me to want to cover one of their songs after the breakup.

A

I mean, a musician.

B

A musician, yes. Would have to be a musician to start with, but also I. Just to honor someone after they've presumably broken your heart. Yeah, well, maybe he really leaves footprints in people's hearts.

A

Or perhaps they split up with him. They were like, I gotta throw this guy a bone.

B

I'll do a BBC Live lounge style.

A

Yeah. And PJ Harvey's thinking, do you know what, Nick? I do feel bad, but that song. What's that song you did that you're always playing? Oh, my God.

B

Yeah.

A

Why don't I just knock off a version of that?

B

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or it's quite patronizing. It's like redoing it. Have you thought about doing it like this?

C

Amy Winehouse went out with a member of the Zoutons. You know what? I'll make you an insane amount of money singing Valerie, as long as you never contact me again.

A

Let me deal with this. But it has also been covered by Jarvis Cocker and Snoop Dogg.

C

Wow.

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Red Right Hand.

B

I think it feels very in line with the show. Do you think?

C

Yeah. I'm afraid to say I've not actually watched very much Peaky Blinders at all. It completely fits what I imagine Peaky Blinders is.

A

Yes, it is exactly like that.

C

But I'm coming at this from a very biased position because I think more than any other song we're going to be discussing Obsessed with Red Right Hand. I hosted a Nick Cave themed party last year where I hired, not insignificant in expense, a tubular bell for the party so we could do karaoke to Red Horrid Hand and clang the bell.

A

Wow. We've literally hit something here.

B

Bowl of bad seeds.

C

We didn't. Oh, Bella. We did not have a bowl of bad seed.

B

And what do you think is the worst seed?

C

The only one I can think of is cheer. But it's always served me very well.

B

Once I had a chia seed pudding and I went to what I can only describe as tummy ache town.

A

Oh, really?

B

And ever since then. Then I have not really been able to touch.

C

Well, that's why we didn't bring any seeds at all to the Nick Cave of the Bad Seeds party.

B

That was a bad seed.

C

But we did.

A

Was it. Was this at Halloween?

C

No, no, it's just in March, March last year, a few friends and I had gone to watch Nick Cave live. We'd been very moved by it. We were talking about all the friends we wished we'd taken, but he wasn't doing any more tour dates, so he said, we'll just have a Nick Cave themed costume party. I say costume, everyone had to wear suits.

A

But what's this an impression of?

C

No, no, come on.

B

Someone receiving a text From IVogram, brackets, General.

C

Is that what you did when I texted you a picture of a random picture of Richard Osman this morning and

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we didn't go to his last one? We're gonna have.

B

I'm never gonna have to go to this one.

C

People did feel obliged to come to my David Bowie party because they hadn't come to the Nick Cave party. It's true.

A

See, David Bowie's a bit. I suppose it's sort of a bit easier at least, isn't?

C

You're telling me you don't want to spend a Friday night wearing a suit and clanging a tubular bell in time to red, right? It was. Listen, I am very appropriately self deprecating about many aspects of my, by many measurements, disastrous life, but the Nick Cave themed party was an absolute triumph and it was adored by everyone who attended it.

A

Favourite Nick Cave song, Jubilee Street.

C

And there's a bit where he sings in Jubilee Street. She had a little black book and my name was written on every page. And two nights before the Nick Cave party, I got home drunk, I had a little black notebook and I wrote Nick Cave on every page in the book so that during the party, during that song, I could start flicking through it. My friend, you really wrote his name on every page of the book? Of course, that's what it says in the song.

A

There's like 400 people going, so why is that? Well, because it's in the song. Oh, it's in the. Sorry. Is that in the lyrics to the song?

C

It's in the lyrics you've just heard right now.

A

I'm going to rewind it for 30 seconds.

B

What I love about a lot of the things that you do is that it feels like I'm dreading this.

C

Richard. She might love it, but not in a kind way.

B

It feels. Feels like a sort of obsessive 15 year old.

C

Okay.

B

Has been cryogenically frozen within you.

C

Okay.

B

And you let them hold the reins at all times.

C

Wow. I suppose that is boarding school.

B

Yeah, that's what.

C

That's. That's what they're doing. They freeze your cryogenic teenage self. Yeah, they pop it in and that just dominates everything for 50 years.

B

The older I get, the more I Am just actually doing and liking a lot of the stuff that I love. When I was 15, though, of course, that's life.

A

I mean, that's. That's forever. It's the only reason I like the World cup, really.

B

Yeah, exactly.

A

15. When William turned out very differently to

C

you, though, you don't think he's still acting on his cryogenically frozen 15 year old self?

A

Yeah, maybe he is.

C

When you see. Turned out very differently to me. I mean, of course, in some ways, but what are the main differences?

A

Well, I saw his last Edinburgh show and it was. I just honestly, it was too one linery for me. I like something a bit more autobiographical.

C

Such a damning review of the fact that I don't have any jokes. What's the one thing that you don't associate with Evergreen? A short joke that you could tell your friends.

A

Can I put the case very briefly for the Addams Family song though, which is. It has the. The line, the house is a museum. When people come to see him, they really are a scream. The Addams Family.

B

I really love that. And you know why I love that is the rhyming is in itself mischievous.

C

Yeah, yeah.

B

And that's in spirit with the melody as well, because the lyricist is like, this is kind of cheeky and this is going to piss some people off.

A

Yeah. Oh my God, this is going to piss some people off.

B

Yeah, this is going to piss some people off. This is going to piss off Mr. David Mitchell.

A

Yeah. When they. When they work at I've Ride Museum with Scream, people are going to lose their minds.

B

People are going to throw their TVs out the window and possibly hit a squirrel on the way down. So that's what I quite like about it, is that it feels in keeping with the melody as well.

A

I bet there is an argument that Red White Hand is sort of a ripoff from Way down in the Hole by Tom Waits, which uses the theme tune.

C

I'm afraid I had to explicitly forbid people from saying that at my party. There was to be no suggestion that anything that Cave has done is derivative.

A

Ivo, you're going to go for Peaky Blinders, I suspect.

C

I think the Addams Family theme is great and I love how it survived generations. And it's been updated like the Addams Family title sequence. Like there was a 2019 movie where they'd match the original sequence sort of frame for frame. It's the same song, but yes, I have not organized a party around it, so it's okay for me.

B

Bella, I'm gonna go with the Addams Family theme tune just because I love Scream.

A

Yeah, it's really good.

B

I mean for goodness sake, that's so silly. Yeah, I just am a big fan

A

and I do think Peaky Blinders has amazing music all the way through. It really does have great music but it's not an original song. I don't know. So I would have to go for Addams Family as well. Should we find out what goes through to our semi final British public, It is the Addams Family.

B

I did not expect that actually.

A

Sorry Ivo. At least we don't have to hear any more about Ivo's party. I hope you enjoyed that free little 10 minute teaser. If you want to hear the rest of it you can go to wrestlersentertainment.com sign up to be a member. You get ad free listening. You get loads and loads of different bonus episodes as well. If you don't want to do that as always, that is absolutely fine.