
LIVE from SEC Media Days in Tampa! David and Olin talk about what the SEC needs to do to overtake the Big Ten as the best conference in college football + JD PicKell of On3 discusses what he's excited to see from the Aggies in 2026!
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So today is like the first day of school. Right. OB but for a school that you only get to see media members or schoolmates three times a year at most. Right. There's the popular kids. I think we're in that mix. There's the dorks. They're across the way. There's the. The jocks, if you will.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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And a bunch more dorks. This is what we call SCC media days. Day one, 2026. And this scenario, SEC media day's coverage is brought to you by Aggie owned and operated Paragon Financial Advisors. Built on the values of the Aggie network and proudly serving families and business owners nationwide. Learn more@paragon-adv.com you ready, buddy?
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Yeah, I'm ready. I better be. There's here.
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There's a focus to the room. There's. All right, let's get the business. Greg Sankey should be hitting the podium soon. When that information comes out, I am sure we will tackle it. But it will be. Today is a day of not only Greg Sankey is the day of first timer Will Stein as a head coach for Kentucky, Missouri. And Eli Drinkowicz will figure out if they can continue what's been, I think, a very nice run, although they haven't reached the peak of what we've seen. And what was his name back in.
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Gary Pink.
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Gary Pinkle. There we go. Brett Venables in Oklahoma and his. His guys and Tennessee and Josh Hyple. Today is about those teams.
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And you know, there's a lot of Oklahoma flavor today. You know Josh Hypo.
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Yeah.
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Oklahoma quarterback. Led him to a national championship.
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Yep.
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Then you mentioned all the guys from Oklahoma.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Brent Venables happens to be their coach.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Well, and another thing that I think is interesting. OB And I say interesting because tomorrow is going to be the opposite. But four teams that A and M are going to face this year are all on the docket to hear from.
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Right. Yeah. I guess the first of the teams that A and M is actually going to play this year is going to be Kentucky.
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Yep.
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Missouri's about midway through the year. Oklahoma's at the end of the year.
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Okay.
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Get an idea, maybe a better idea of what these guys might have.
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Yeah.
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When they face the Aggies. I think. I think. Yeah. When you have. Let's be honest, there's a lot of teams that Aggies really aren't that interested in. But the teams on your schedule, you probably want to know something about them. Know a little bit more. Maybe we'll find out yeah.
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Here's the thing. When you have a new coach, and I'm talking about Will Stein here, it can go a couple different ways. We know that there's not one uniform way to see things. But will it be this new exciting vibe that Will Stein brings to Kentucky? Maybe what we saw a couple years back from Arizona State, like, wait, wait, where do these guys come from? Maybe what we saw from Kevin Sunlin the first year of Texas A and M in the sec. Is it going to be something like that or is it going to be a true. I've got to get my guys in here. But he's got himself a quarterback in Kenny Minchi that almost won the starting job at Notre Dame last year.
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Yeah. From what I understand, that's the way it was reported that it could have gone either way they went with C.J. carr. I bet at Notre Dame they wish. If he couldn't start, they probably wish they would made him a holder on field goals, an extra point.
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Oh, yeah, there was an issue there. There was absolutely an issue there.
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But yeah, we didn't see him last year, but we'll see him this year. So we'll probably get it. Make it a point to hear what Kenny Minchie has to say and whether or not he should have been out there. Yeah.
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The other thing is, I forget what were they ranked? I think it was in the top 15. But Kentucky did excellent when it comes to the transfer portal and roster additions. And they're not a team you think about A, from nil perspective and B, just I don't remember reading their name very often when it comes to adding guys.
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Yeah. You know, I think when you get a new coach, first of all, he's going to bring guys that he's familiar with. And I think Kentucky gives you an opportunity to play right away.
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That's.
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That's important. And I'm sure that they are at least reasonably competitive in nil.
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I would agree with that. Before we continue down this path, I do want to kind of set up the show. We don't know who we have on the show today.
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All right.
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We're going to have people. Right. This is kind of how SEC media days goes, is the first day. It's kind of like that first date. You know, you're waiting to see who you're going to get on the set. We do know we have Tony Barnhart at 9:00'. Clock. Trey Wallace from out kick should be joining us at some point during the 8 o' clock hour. But the remainder of the show is kind Of a tbd.
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Yeah, I think it's more like the old days, hanging out in the singles bar, you know, wondering who you can pick up or.
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Speed dating.
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Yeah, definitely. It's speed dating once they get here. Right. Because it's not like we're gonna have somebody on all day.
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So I would say. I would say we could swipe right. Swipe left.
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Yes. For piping. Right and left.
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Yeah. For certain guests. We should.
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Now, who's gonna be tracking down all those guests?
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Nick Savage and Cali Garner. And of course, we'll. We'll do our part, too. Right. Like, right across the way. See? Cole Kublick, Greg McElroy. I know. JD Paquel's right there as well.
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Kelly Garner does most of the work.
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Oh, she's. She's great at what she does.
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Yes.
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Let's. Let's.
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Let's say no to her. No.
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Nobody.
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Yeah, you're right. Yeah. So, yeah, she's gonna go up and ask somebody, hey, can you be on the show? And they're gonna go, yeah, you can't say no to Cali Gardner.
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Hey, I should probably tell the people the name of the show. We. I already told them. SEC Media Day is brought to you by Paragon Financial Advisors.
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But you didn't tell them. It's Texas Live.
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Texas Live, presented by David Gardner's Jewelers. We are in the Mobile Rollo Insurance Studio. I've never said that before.
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Yeah, well, you know, Jason Jackson.
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Keith.
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Keith. And they insure cars.
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Yeah.
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And everything that would take you places, so it makes sense.
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This is. Right. We're also doing the Go hour, and that's presented by the warehouse at CC Creations. If you want to be a part of the conversation, there are multiple ways you can do it. One way is by doing what?
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Calling us on the Bupy's catering and bartending hotline.
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What's that number?
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979693. 1150.
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And you can text that number as well. But magically, we clap our hands and it becomes what?
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It becomes the catalyst. Pure Performance energy. PPE text line.
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Before we go around the room, we should probably tackle. I think the biggest topic today is plan B.
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That's what I would think again. Last week, SEC Commissioner Greg Sankey, who's speaking right now, made a comment about. Well, plan B is the. If the SEC can't get what they want through the. What do they call that act?
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The Protect College Sports Act.
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College act and whatnot. That their plan B is for the SEC just to break off from everything and be its own entity.
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Yeah.
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So surely he's going to be pressed on that a little bit more.
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I don't know how much he's going to say he's an interesting person on the podium, because I think he. I mean, he. Politics when he comes up here. Right. Like, he. He plays the game. He'll say certain things to send a message. I wonder, though, with that being floated earlier last week or at the end of last week, I should say, how much he'll double down on it on the podium, or does he sidestep it?
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Yeah, and I think that's. I think that's going to be one of the more interesting things to. To gauge and kind of, you know, get a read on today.
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Hey, we got some breaking news, ladies and gentlemen.
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Okay, what broke?
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Not nothing big, but I'm actually happy about this. SEC commissioner Greg Sankey says next year, SEC football media days in 2027 will return to Nashville, Tennessee.
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Oh, we like that.
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Yeah. Those dates are going to be July 12th to 15th. Our audience doesn't care, but I've been asking for Nashville for a little while, so I'm happy he's returning to Nashville.
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Everything's together. So in Nashville, you know, you don't have to.
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Well, it's. It's the. As Texas. By the way, you should be following Texas on all social media platforms. But today on Twitter, I think it's. It's Richard Zane who's tweeting out. But this is the first bit of news at SEC Media Days, which is why I reported it right away.
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Right. So Greg Sankey's up there and he. He opens up with a joke and eventually going to start making References to 1960s rock and roll bands.
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He loves talking about that.
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And then he probably said, oh, and by the way, let's talk about SEC business next year. It's going to be national.
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Yeah. As for the plan B, what is. Is there a plan C, do you think? Because people like him usually have two or three, four options to go with. Like, you know, there's tier one, tier. Like, we have tiers in the SEC of teams. Tier one, tier two.
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Yeah.
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Tier three and below. I bet you he's got different things, like stuff that he says to get the reaction, I'm going to do a nunoism here. Okay.
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I think this can be true.
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Well, yes, but in jiu jitsu, not that I know a lot because I get my butt kicked a lot. But that being said, in jiu jitsu, you do something to elicit a response to get the real move that you Want understand what I'm saying?
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Oh, yeah. My wife does that all the time.
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You may grab a guy's wrist to have him lifted up and then put him in a different move.
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Okay. Okay.
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Greg Sankey, I believe, tries to do that. He'll. He'll say something, he'll do something, and he's not. If you give him that route, he'll certainly take it, but he's setting up the third act.
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Okay. I just wonder how many, because I have no idea what plan C. If I know you're saying that he probably has one. He probably does. There's probably plan C and plan D. I wonder how many times do you get down the Alphabet before it's admit that that won't. That plan B won't work. And you grovel, too.
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Right.
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For forgiveness.
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Right. I. I think the only real options are protect college sports. ACT kind of does what the SEC in the Big Ten wants, and not everybody's happy. Group of four, you know, power four, whatever.
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Right?
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Not everybody's happy, but happy enough. That's one option. Option two is. All right, guys, middle finger to the air to everybody. We're going to do our own thing, but our own thing is going to be not the SEC. Our own thing in five years is going to be the SEC in the Big Ten and the next 12 teams, 15 teams, whatever it may be. I don't know what a third option could be. And maybe that's what today he addresses.
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Maybe. I still think eventually it's going to be 64 teams and it's going to look a lot like the NFL just to spread out a little bit more.
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Yeah. He also says that we didn't achieve the ultimate goal of a NAPA national championship. The strength of this conference is football is clear in football is clear.
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That's true. They didn't have the best team, but they had the most teams. And that tells me that, you know, you have the best conference top to bottom, but until you actually win it. Look, for. For a decade, the SEC bragged and beat its chest about, hey, we've won, what, 11, 10, 11 consecutive national championship. Well, now the Big Ten has won three in a row. And so it's their chance, it's their opportunity to do the same, and you have to take it. And unless if you don't like it, you know, you find out a way to go and change it.
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Look, the better conference is the Big Ten. When we're talking about championships, the deeper conference is the sec. And we like to. And I say we. Me, I like to say that, but I'm coping. I'm trying to deal. Well, you know, the reason we didn't win is because we had this grind. Yeah.
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I've had this. This discussion, and I said, yes, but what if. Who's the best player in baseball?
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Right.
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Best hitter in baseball. Tiny. All right, so you put him. If you put him in the lineup with a bunch of Midland guys.
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Yeah.
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And then you have another lineup with a bunch of guys aren't as good as him, but are much better than the other Midland guys, who actually has a better lineup. But it doesn't matter, because you're ultimately judged by who wins the championship.
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Right.
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So, yeah, I think there's. I think A and M has a better A and M. I think the SEC has a better batting order. Even though the SEC has the goodness, the Big Ten has the big hitter. But. But until you win, you have to be. Until you win again.
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Right.
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You have to accept that the. The perception is that the Big Ten is the stronger conference. Yep.
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Hey, let's go around the room, say hi to the people. We go left to right. Nick Savage is here with us. Do we go to you, or do we go to Cade? I forget what we do here. We go to you, right? Yeah. I'm gonna. I'll say hi to Kaden.
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Steal it from Cade. Sorry, because the delay will be weird, but. How are y'?
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All? How are you, buddy?
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I'm good. I'm happy here for another year. I. I called Nashville, by the way. I was driving up here. You know, I drive.
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Y' all fly615 area code.
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Yeah.
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But I. I was driving up here, and I was like, we're going to Nashville next year for sure, so. But yeah, I like this setup. Tampa's pretty. Have never been here before.
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Matt. I missed out on your.
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Your rub. Not Reuben sandwich, you've been saying.
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All right, so if you put sauerkraut
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on, it would be a Cuban Reuben.
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It would be a Cuban Reuben. We went.
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Okay.
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You guys know me, like, when I go out of town, I go get Cuban food often, right?
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Yes.
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There's a place down the way that I. We went to last night to have. Or yesterday for lunch. And it was. I, like, I was disappointed because, you know, like, oh, you got to go see this movie. Like, I've heard nothing but great things about the Odyssey. And you get there and it's like, ah. I mean, I'm sure the Odyssey is great, but you're like, it was okay. And that bummed me for you guys. I wanted you guys, to have the experience. I know you had a really good experience in Miami, but Cali k Richard, they didn't have the.
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It was. I.
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It was just, you know. All right. It's like we went to. I'm not gonna name a place, but a place. It's okay.
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Yeah, it's fine. It's all right.
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It's fine.
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My picadillo empanadas were good. Yeah, Good.
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I wanted an experience, a transport. Transformational experience of Cuban food. But anyway, you were saying you wish you could have gone with us. Yeah, yeah.
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But I was the pack mule. But I'm a willing pack mule to drive all the gear up here.
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Let me ask you a question.
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Okay.
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What we're going to talk about today on the show. What is success for Kentucky? What is success for Oklahoma? What is success for Tennessee? Right. In Missouri? What is success for Nick Savage at SEC Media Days? 2026?
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Get everybody. That's. That's success.
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Yeah.
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Not everybody, because not everyone's worthy of getting on our show, but totally not.
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Interviewing that guy that just walked by. Not gonna do that.
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My favorite thing to do is spot the fake media. That's. That's our favorite.
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It's better than the NFL combine.
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Oh, my gosh.
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It's way better than the NFL combine.
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Yeah. The NFL Combine. Jacob Hester walking by. I would talk to him. He was at the combine with us.
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He was too busy.
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He was so busy.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Look, today and this week, it's. It's really about. We do prep all off season. Right. It'll be like we're constantly reading about these teams, but I think the intensity kind of. This is where it begins.
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Yes. Like I was saying, we did a video earlier. This is. You're. You're. You're in the parking lot. Yep, this is the parking lot. You know, you're going out to eat. But, hey, first you got to get to the parking lot. This is the parking lot. The. The camp and everything that's followed until the season is walking into the restaurant. And then the season. That's when you eat.
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Yep. And we're gonna eat when we get back. We do get back on a Thursday. It's. We're gonna get in late, so we'll work out. But Friday, I mean, even though we're gonna sleep for three hours.
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Yeah.
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Friday is where it's going to be at, buddy.
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Where is it going to be at 1775? That succulent brisket, those amazing pork ribs.
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What I was going to ask you is, you know, you have A son that's going to be moving here soon. Yes, I think that would be. Not the going away party like, you know, but hey, let's talk about life now that you're a man party. Let's go eat some food and be like carnivores and men.
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Yes, we've done that before. At 1775, we'll do it again because he loved it. And the only thing is, I don't think I can arrange it where it can be just the guys because Irma loves that 1775 barbecue as much as anybody. And I don't think I can get away with. Hey, me and Quinn.
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Yep.
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Quinn and I are going to go have that succulent brisket, enjoy those sumptuous. Sumptuous pork ribs and that scrumptious jalapeno cheese sausage. And as she says, you think you're gonna go get that, that. That queso Mac and cheese without me?
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Nah.
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Hell no.
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Hell no.
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Yeah, so. But. But I find 1775, I can see it in my. In my very near Future.
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Call them up. 979-492-6241 or visit the website 1775 txbpq.com it is 1775, and it's good. I can rigo the money machine back to school.
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It's your chance to win $5,000 and it starts July 27th.
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Thank you so much. Back here on Tech Sags live, presented by David Gardner's jewelers Rollo insurance studio. The go hour, presented by the warehouse at CC Creations, SEC media days. Our coverage from here is brought to you by Paragon financial advisors. David Ob. Lots of chit chat. And J.D. bickel, our good friend from on three. What's up, brother?
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I'm with Texas royalty right now. Between yourself and Ola, this is.
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This is cool.
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This is very cool for me.
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Well, I'm surrounded by on 3 royalty. Excuse me. Yeah, we've got Blaine Crane over there. I know that. I saw 80 staples earlier. What's going on with you?
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The full house, man. It's great. I feel like I. Media days, I think kind of gets a bad rap in our space because I think a lot of people sort of moan and groan and say, oh, it's just talking season. This is like the first actual thing we have that tells us it's college football season. So I. I love this. I think this is awesome.
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Go ahead, Obi.
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Yeah, well, he's like, no, not me.
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When you've done 20 in a row. Let's see.
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That's fair.
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It's just as awesome.
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That's very fair.
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But let me say this.
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Yeah.
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There are two national podcasts that I try to never miss.
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Okay.
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Or podcasters. And I mean this. Sincerely, Josh Pate. J.D.
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hey, I appreciate that.
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That's a pretty great. I remember when you first started, I think he came on tech sacks right away, wasn't it? Tried to. Yeah.
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Try to. Yeah. I mean, y' all were kind enough to have us on, but, yeah. Tried to. To get in the mix and be around what you guys have built in College Station. And. Yeah, we were smart enough to be around y'. All. Yeah.
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From the four teams talking today, J.D. who do you think makes the biggest jump? Okay. And obviously, the better you are, the harder it is to make a jump. Right. Like. Like Gym Gaines. Like, it's easier when you're a newbie. But Kentucky's got a long way to go. Obviously, Missouri has been floundering in that same kind of area. Do they take a step back? Tennessee, the questions at quarterback and ou, they're already a playoff team. Can they continue that? So when I say that, I guess it's based on what the season's expectations are.
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I think Oklahoma can be for national championship. I just think there is way fewer holes than maybe what the narrative presents nationally. Because we look at John Mateer and how he struggled last year, and it's very fair to look at, you know, what he was in terms of how the offense struggled those last couple of games. Only scored 70 points. Whatever. I think when he's healthy, he is one of the best quarterbacks in college football. That defense is going to give everyone problems. So I think them jumping from playoffs, national title contender is real. I think Tennessee's sneaky. Y' all ever hear about how hippopotamus has killed so many people every single year?
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Yeah.
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But like, you look at them. Oh, a few hippopotamus, unassuming, they're adorable. But like, they're. They're lethal. They'll sneak up on you. Yeah, that's Tennessee. Tennessee's like kind of this fun story. Josh Hypo is a great coach. Tennessee, the power to you, whatever. I think they're going to be a problem for a lot of people. I don't know if they're a playoff team, but I think they could be a nine win team this year.
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What about them leads you to believe that?
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I think there's so much security outside of the quarterback position. Like, they bring back five guys on the offensive line with seven starts or more. You got two. Your top three Receivers back, got a thousand yard back in desean Bishop who's back. And so as we start to zoom out, it's like, yeah, I'd love if quarterback was figured out, but everything around that quarterback should provide a little bit of cushion to figure things out defensively. Massive question. Understandably so. I think Jim Knowles bringing over a lot of people on staff from Penn State as well as players from Penn State should help expedite that learning curve a little bit. So still have to see it in person, obviously for it to be a real thing. But I like Tennessee this year.
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J.D. i know you've been big on A and M this offseason. Give me a why beyond Coach Elko. Like what? Something about the roster. You're like, yeah, that's why.
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It's funny because it all ties back to Coach Elko. I think the way they have anticipated the holes they would have to fill this year, which obviously is a Coach Elko thing, but at a roster level and a coaching staff level as well. Like they knew they weren't keeping Claw and Klein probably past last season. Then he was going to take a head job whether it was Oklahoma State or whether it was Kansas State, wherever. So the ability to prepare for that and to see that coming, I have a lot of confidence in that process. I get excited about the receiver. I don't know about you all like Isaiah Horton. Adding another genre of playmaker is really exciting to me. Because you had Casey Concepcion last year who was, I mean, first round. Unbelievable, right? There's this world.
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Yeah.
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There's no way to spin that as a positive, losing him. But having a guy with a catch radius like Isaiah Horton kind of being more in that Noah Thomas mold almost and having a guy opposite in Craver, I think that's going to be a lot of fun to watch. I'm excited for that.
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One of the reasons A and M was so good last year, you just touched on it was some of the guys that, that maybe weren't high profile additions to through the transfer portal. Are we to the point now that how successful you're going to be is dependent on your success rate? I mean, you know, finding those, those guys on the road. For instance, you know, last year LSU was expected to be really good, but they had gone all in. There were number one recruiting transfer Porter class, supporter class and they missed on a lot of the games.
C
Yeah, yeah. I think that's why I have confidence in A and M long term is even before he took the job at A and M, you talk to people in the space about how Elko works and what makes him a great coach. And one of the things that always gets brought up is, hey, he's really smart. He's a great evaluator. And so what you just said via the portal, I think that is a non negotiable in terms of how you succeed modern college. You cannot just look at the portal and treat it as like an option. Like you have to use the portal every year. And so with that being how the world's going to work now, here in modern college football, having a guy who's so well versed in evaluation, I think that's why you see him have success, why you would see Signetti flip Indiana in two years. I mean just elite, elite evaluators.
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I want to go back to the wide receiver point because you're exactly right. You lose a guy like Casey Concepcion, you can't expect the room to be better. That being said, I think they can be deeper. Aaron Gregory, this freshman wide receiver, he's going to get some play in time. We've seen what ABR has been able to do as he grew into a player. Ashton Bethel Roman last year. Terry Bussey has some room to grow. And now you add Isaiah Horton and Mario Craver. We haven't even talked about it yet. Who could be the. I mean he is the best wide receiver in the room. How far does his game go this year?
C
Ready for the Terry Bussy year, huh?
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Yeah, I feel like, I feel like
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we've been waiting every media days. I'm like, this is the year, baby. They got this guy. He's an athlete. It's funny, you look at Marcel Reed's numbers last year and as good as they were from PFF's perspective at least,
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like it had a lot of drops
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he was working with. I think A and m was top 10 in all of college football in terms of drops. So if you can be, like you said, deeper, maybe even just more reliable, like how far of a step does his game take having another guy in Isaiah Horton? Like I said, the catch radius thing, if. If one of the things you talk about with Marshall Reed so much is, hey, I wish he was a little bit less. What's the right way to say setting his feet is going to help him with accuracy? If he is still progressing in that and he's a touch inaccurate to start having a guy who can jump out the gym at 6364 and has the ability to go up to the top rope and snag it, going to be a big, big advantage. For him. So in terms of Mario Craver having less attention on him and having another kind of playmaker to demand attention, I think it's going to be huge.
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Yeah, I think I feel really good. We even say the wide receiver room is still the best position for at A&M. The biggest question I think is going to be on besides the offensive line. Well, that is the biggest question. But, you know, they were so good on defense last year, and you lose the player of the year and you wonder where the, the pass rush is going to come from. Do you have much intel on guys like Anto Sock and what they've done
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before in terms of just what we're hearing from the folks in College Station? Much like y', all, Marco Jones onto Sock, like those two guys, I'm not so concerned about their ability to rush the passer. I'm more intrigued to see how the guys, how those guys show up in the run game and the push they get, whether it's responsible or not. I think as long as Mike Elko's in charge of your defense, however that looks by title, I think they'll be pretty pretty well versed or well suited to rush the passer. So the intel on those guys in terms of what they do, stopping the run is what excites me the most in that front seven.
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Before we let you go, I know you're high on Texas as well. Give me a reason that they could have a season similar to last year and a reason that they can do what they were expected to do last
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year and this year is Archman easy short of an answer for both of those. I mean, it's. I mean, that's. That's kind of where I fall on it. I think him paired with the offensive line is why they would fall short. Like I am of the opinion. The thing I've said for a while here is like four dates into a relationship, you know, there's compatibility. There is a certain level of attraction. You were excited about that person. You're not ready to propose. Like, I'm kind of at that stage with Arch Manning. I think that he is wildly talented. Could he win the Heisman Trophy? 100%. I need to see more than six games. I need to see more than like two of those last six games having less than 50% bleach percentage. So there's a lot there where I like the trend. I'm not ready to jump all the way into that pool and say he's going to do X, Y and Z just yet.
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JD Always great stuff.
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Brother, thank you so much.
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This is your home for Aggie football, home road or both. The zone 11:50am and 93.7 FM.
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little bit of water.
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OB we got some little bit of news that I wanted to get to if you don't mind. This is from Pete Thamel sources. The latest discussions about the Protect College Sports act most scrutinized section realignment restrictions has a brand new focus. The discussion centers around leagues being capped at 19 teams. The Big Ten currently has 18. The SEC has 16 for example. So remember initially they were going to freeze. You can't add anybody.
B
Yeah.
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Now they're saying you can add, but you can only add a little bit more.
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See that. All right, you know what?
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Stupidity.
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Well, it said 20. Why would you say 19?
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Yeah.
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Because eventually I really believe you're gonna have to be in some kind of divisions. Yeah. So why would you say 19? You can't. You can't have any balanced kind of division with that.
A
No, you cannot. No, it's stupid.
B
I guess they're saying, hey, we're just going to make sure we have room for the big tent at Notre Dame.
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Yeah. And that's it. And then the sec, you can add your Clemson, you can add your Florida State, you can Add your Miami now
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it'd probably be North Carolina.
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Yeah,
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but why? You know why 19 after you said 24? I could say they're onto something.
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They're on to something. Let me read you a little bit more from your friend Pete Thamel, who you've never met, have you?
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I've never met him.
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I didn't think so. For a league to have a Power 4 conference, to join another, they'd have to play five years as an independent. The group of six schools would be allowed to move up in the latest discussions. I don't know if that makes sense to me. Read that again.
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It's starting to sound like they want to do, you know, your European, you know, kickball stuff, Bro, that game was great yesterday.
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Come on.
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No, the. Yeah, but I don't hear anything about promotional regulation. He also says the current version of the bill was set to freeze all leagues making more than 700 million, and that was met with strong pushback.
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So they're saying. Say that again.
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This is written in a way that, like, maybe I'm just not smart enough. I need my friend Chad, GPT or Claude to help me. The current version of the bill was set to freeze all of the leagues making more than 700 million, and that was met with strong push. So you couldn't make more.
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I don't know if that means you can't make more or that you can't. I don't. I don't know. I. If that means I'm at. How are you going to tell somebody how much money they make?
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Yeah, that is.
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I think that's ridiculous.
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That's socialism.
A
Well, that. And then. But then what they'll say is, well, you're trying to cap the players what they can make in nil. That's socialism.
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Well, I think what eventually they're going to have to do is have some players representation that's going to come to an agreement, and then it's not.
A
Yeah, I don't know the. I want resolution and I have to talk about it on the show because it is relevant to the future of the sport. But I'm sick of talking about it, if that makes any sense.
B
Well, I think what they're trying to do is obviously is they're trying to save the lesser conferences.
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Yeah, ob. Let's. I'm going to ask you something similar to what I asked jd But I want your perspective on this. All right. Which team from today, and we may do this daily, but which team from today is most likely to outperform expectations? Your options are Kentucky, Missouri, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Kentucky.
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Right. Well, not necessarily. In fact the first thing that came to my mind was I got to understand what the, what the expectations are and I would say that based on what I think the expectations are and what their history has done is still Missouri.
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Okay.
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I don't know that Missouri has grandiose expectations put upon them and yet Missouri typically exceeds what everybody thinks they're going to do.
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Okay, so what do you think people are thinking about the mate win team?
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They're probably think they're an eight win team and they I think they might, you know be a team that jumps up there and could win nine could win or at least content gets in the conversation in November. Playoff conversation in November. I don't see why they would do that because they lost so much really on defense. But I know he likes, he looks kind of like a, he projects is kind of nerdy but drink was puts a good team.
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He does. All right, so but I don't know
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what the, what are the.
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Let me set some expectations. I would say for Kentucky the hope slash expectation would be better than last year. Right. But a six win season.
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Okay.
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Can they exceed that? Missouri, I think the expectation is an eight win season.
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Okay.
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I think Oklahoma, the expectation is a 10 win season. That's the expectation.
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Okay. That's the expectation.
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Tennessee I think and when I say expectation I'm not saying die hard Fans, everybody, we're 11 to win. Right. Like what national media is predicting and I don't have it in front of me but let me do SEC win expectations in, in 2026. Okay, so I got that here. So what we have for all those teams. Oklahoma. What Oklahoma's. It may be Oklahoma. Apparently Vegas says seven and a half wins. Is there?
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Yeah. If that was the expectation I would expect Oklahoma to do better than that.
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Kentucky 4.6 wins projected. How do you get a point six? But that's what it says.
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Okay, maybe they meant five and they're just, you know, it's right next to the key. It happens to me all the time. I hit the wrong key.
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Missouri, six and a half. Yeah, they should be better than that.
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Yeah, see I think Missouri is going to be better than that team that's just trying to get into a bowl game.
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Tennessee, seven and a half. I think that is the perfect number for Tennessee.
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See I, I, I don't know that I am on board with what I'm completely on board with J.D. said about Oklahoma. I'm not sure that I want to agree with that about Tennessee that he Thinks they could be pretty. I think they're going to be a disappointment this year.
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I, I, I agree with you. And when we were going through, he's
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in Nashville so he gets more information than we do.
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Yeah. But when I was going through my 25 and 25 yesterday with Billy, I was in. I don't know if you were there. You were there on the other side of the hill. I kind of give these parameters. I have a hard time putting kickers or special teamers. I'm not saying I won't. Right. But there's certain ways that I evaluate that 25 and 25, when I'm evaluating a team, if I have huge question
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marks about the quarterback position in the SEC and defense.
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And defense. Right. Or for even A and M offensive line. Right. There are question marks. Even though I feel good about the talent they have acquired, there are question marks. I have a hard time going in on a team being that until they prove it to me, like you say with your own eyes.
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Right.
A
So with Tennessee thinking that they might have Joey Aguilar and then they don't and now they have, you know, these quarterbacks that they think could be really good. When you're a first time starter. I'm sorry, I'm probably just like Arch Manning. Right. Just like many others in the past. I, you have to prove it to me. How long does it take for you to understand the way the game is played at this level, at this speed?
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Yeah. You know, 10 years ago, maybe more, Auburn had a quarterback, Jeremy Johnson, and people, a lot of national people were giving this guy the Heisman Trophy.
A
Yep.
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Before the season started. I don't think he, he finished the year as their starter because he just wasn't very good. But people see things, or sometimes they think they see things that aren't there. Maybe I hear this Tennessee kid, I think it was actually Marcel Reed's dad texted me one time, said, hey, here's their quarterback. He's actually pretty good.
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Yeah.
B
All right, so. And I can't even think of the young man's name. So it might be. Yeah, but then he said. But then he also said, well, yeah, but they have these issues on defense, but I'm counting on the defensive corner maybe.
A
But again, I'm not saying it won't happen. I don't know enough. But what I am saying is the law of averages would say is very difficult when you have questions at quarterback and there are questions for you to be a playoff worthy team even in the 12 team era.
B
So back to your original question. If 7.5 is the number on Oklahoma they were going to exceed.
A
I agree with that.
B
If 4.5 is the, the answer on the expectation Kentucky, they, they will exceed
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Missouri six and a half, they should exceed that.
B
Yeah, or, or, or remedy. I don't see him not getting in a bowl game. The one team that I'd have the, the base question on today is, is Tennessee. Yeah, but I've been pretty consistent with that and I may be dead wrong. I mean I'm not living in a mansion in Vegas.
A
But I think the reason seven and a half to me is a good number for them is I could see them winning 8. I could absolutely see him only winning 7. It's a good number.
B
I, you know I'd have to look at their schedule but you know I'm sure they have what three non conference games that they're going to be, that they're going to be favored in.
A
Well, I got their schedule right here and I'm sure Kate can put it up on the screen as well. They open up with Furman when they're
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boom, beat the Furman Bishers.
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Okay. Then they go to Georgia Tech. That's a question.
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I always, not always. 90% of the time in a non conference game I will take the SEC team.
A
Yep. Then they host Kennesaw State.
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They're gonna win that one.
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They host Texas.
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I'm probably gonna take Texas.
A
Okay, so at this point if everything's going great, they're three in one. Auburn. They're hosting Auburn. I should say I'll take them.
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Yeah, I think it's going to be coin flip but okay.
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4 and 1 they go to Arkansas.
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They're going to win that one.
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5 and 1 they host Alabama.
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I'll probably take Alabama.
A
Okay, so 5 and 2 they go to South Carolina. That's either way.
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Yeah, it's a toss up but give them the win. Okay.
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Six and two they host Kentucky.
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Okay. They're going to, I pick them over Kentucky.
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Seven and two they go to A
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and M. I think A and M will win that.
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7 and 3 they host LSU.
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I would probably take LSU.
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7 and 4. Tennessee. Excuse me. They play themselves Vanderbilt on the road.
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Probably a toss up.
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Right.
B
So if they win all their toss
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up games, they're a nine win team.
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If they win all their toss up games.
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Yeah.
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And look and they probably, if they go, if they go, if they go 500 in their toss up games or one over because it might be an odd number, you know then they may
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not, I don't Think they have a very hard. Well, their schedule seems to be spread out.
B
Georgia Tech is.
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We don't know what Georgia Tech is. We don't know what LSU is. We expect them to be upper tier. Ish. Right.
B
No, I. Auburn's talking big.
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Yep.
B
So, you know, so I, I'm going to. Until my eyes show me something different.
C
Yeah.
B
I'm going to be skeptical about Tennessee.
A
Well, I think we need to. I think the seven and a half number, as I said earlier, is the right number for them. I think that is the absolute right now.
B
So if you had to put your paycheck on it.
A
Yeah.
B
Are you taking the under or over at seven and a half?
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I'll take the over.
B
Okay. I take the under.
A
So. Okay. You think there are seven win team, seven winner less. Yeah, I just think that if that schedule. Well, you know what, you know what
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we need to do, you and I, we need to get the. It doesn't even have to be SEC teams, but we get all SEC teams get their under over. We need to just go through it. And then at the end of the year, we just look to see how
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Well, you know, you don't have to agree to anything that you don't like.
A
Yeah.
B
But yeah, you don't bet a thousand. And in fact I think the plan B about breaking off, I think that's what is Trump has the art of the deal. And you start off, you add ask for something that you not even want.
A
Yeah.
B
But you just, you know to just set some crazy parameters and you start meeting in the middle. And I think that's how you do it when you're sometimes negotiating for a salary part of negotiation. So yeah, you're not going to get a thousand percent. You know, you're not going to bat a thousand trying to get everything you want. But there are certain things. Yeah. That, that, that are deal breakers.
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One other thing he says we don't have an idea of the clear media interest of an expanded playoff. We do know that we have an understanding of what happened when we to 12. Second, the calendar is challenging. There is a line in the Protect College Sports act that requires college football season to be completed by January 8th. They can, they can push that back to January 20th. I think all of us would be fine with that.
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Fifteenth.
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Yeah, I like New Year's Eve. Ending the season personally back in the day. That's what it felt. Or New Year's Day, I should say.
B
Yeah. But, but if that's if, if New Year's Day was the semi finals.
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Yeah.
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We'd be, that would be pretty.
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Yeah. All right. OB Go enjoy the rest of your day, buddy. Go do the real work now.
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Time.
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Date: July 20, 2026
Podcast: Zone 1150 - TexAgs Live
Host(s): David Nuño, Olin Buchanan (OB), JD PicKell, with contributors from the TexAgs team
Theme:
This episode covers Day One of SEC Media Days 2026, anchored by in-depth discussion and live observations from the event. The crew focuses on SEC expansion, team outlooks—especially those playing Texas A&M this season—coaching transitions, the impact of transfer portal activity, and the evolving landscape of college football governance. The show includes interviews and analysis, notably with guest JD PicKell from On3 Sports, and takes a lighthearted yet insightful approach to media day culture, team expectations, and realignment issues.
“You do something to elicit a response to get the real move that you want.” – Nuño, on Sankey’s negotiation tactics (A, 09:01)
Breaking News Segment (07:36–08:00)
Nuño frames the discussion: “What is success for Kentucky? What is success for Oklahoma? What is success for Tennessee, right? And Missouri?” (A, 14:25)
Based on discussion and published Vegas numbers:
| Team | Expected Wins (Vegas) | Panel Opinion | |-----------|----------------------|------------------------| | Oklahoma | 7.5 | Over (both agree) | | Kentucky | 4.6 | Over | | Missouri | 6.5 | Over | | Tennessee | 7.5 | Split (OB: Under, Nuño: Over) |
“You cannot just look at the portal and treat it as like an option. Like you have to use the portal every year.” – JD PicKell (C, 22:51)
"There are two national podcasts that I try to never miss... Josh Pate, J.D." (B, 18:17)
"When he's healthy, he is one of the best quarterbacks in college football. That defense is going to give everyone problems." (C, 19:15)
"The better conference is the Big Ten when we’re talking about championships; the deeper conference is the SEC...I'm trying to deal." (A, 11:25)
"Arch Manning is the short answer for both of those...You were excited about that person. You're not ready to propose. Like, I'm kind of at that stage with Arch Manning." (C, 25:37)
| Segment | Focus | Notable Quote/Insight | Timestamp | |---------------------------|--------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------|--------------| | SEC Media Days Vibe | School/social dynamics, guest booking | “Speed dating ... swipe right/swipe left.” (A, 04:21) | 00:00–06:00 | | Team Previews | Outlooks for Kentucky, Mizzou, Oklahoma, Tenn. | “Oklahoma can be for national championship ... fewer holes than nat’l narrative.” (JD, 19:15) | 14:25–21:00 | | SEC Expansion & Plan B | Governance, breakoff threats, Sankey’s tactics | “He’s setting up the third act.” (A, 09:20) | 06:27–10:32 | | Realignment News | League size caps, confusion over bills | “How are you going to tell somebody how much money they make?” (B, 30:16)| 27:44–31:38 | | Texas A&M Analysis | WR room, defensive concerns, transfer portal | “You have to use the portal every year.” (JD, 22:51) | 21:50–25:30 | | Playoff/Calendar Debate | Finish season by Jan 8/15; playoff structure | “I like New Year’s Eve ... or New Year’s Day ...” (A, 42:28) | 41:26–42:42 |
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